View Full Version : First time @ WAZOO.......
Roadster
07-09-2016, 11:30 PM
Had one of the best enjoyment days of my recent retirement @ WAZOO earlier today. Drove down to Jim & Lyndi's house this AM with maintenance day already in progress. I last saw Jim at Carlisle last year, it was a pleasure to see him again and meet his wife Lyndi. It was also a pleasure to meet Bob, Nelson, Charlie, Scott, & Rich. Not only enthusiastic ZR-1 owners, but also a great group of guys. Now I know how if feels to be part of WAZOO:dancing
Jim's garage is like a miniature Chevy dealer Service Shop, has everything that you can imagine for getting the job done. I know there are a lot of knowledgeable people who understand the LT5, and seeing Jim in action, I would have to say he ranks among the top of them, period....
When I arrived, Jim and Bob were working on Bob's '93 to eliminate a miss that has plagued Bob for awhile. After a much needed plug change, success was made.
Charlie was busy polishing the hood and certain other area's on some of Jim's Z's. In one of the pics you will see the depth of the shine he accomplished.
Scott had his White Z with those "hot" looking wheels on the lift, changing out the rear bearing hub assemblies. Also tried to change out the trans fluid, but the fill drain plug would not budge.
Nelson did not have his Z there, but had some good conversations and stories to tell.
Rich did not have his Z there either, and helped out with everything that he could. Was a big help along with Jim on performing some of the items done on my Z.
I was next up on the lift after Scott, we did the trans fluid change, got the fill plug out, but could not budge the drain plug. So the fluid was sucked out by the vacuum pump and refilled by a mini pump. The fluid coming out did not look bad, but good to change out anyway. I did not notice any change in shifting than before. But my trans has always shifted fine.
Next the anti-freeze change. What came out looked good, but again, did not know how long the coolant has been in there.
I asked Jim to road test my '94 as I wanted his opinion on how it feels to him. He came back and felt everything was fine, liked the way it ran.
Lyndi went out and came back with a container of ice cream for the guys and there was plenty of food for anyone hungry.
Again, I had a great time with a great bunch of down-to-earth guys that just love cars and have fun...looking forward to do it again....
here are some pics of the day....
From L to R....Charlie on the cell....Bob in his '93....Nelson and Jim having a chat...
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Bob and Nelson have a chat....
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Charlie working his magic on Jim's Blue Z...and the reflection of the garage roof after Charlie worked on Jim's Black Z...
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Rich and Scott working on the trans plug...
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Roadster
07-09-2016, 11:38 PM
Bob, Nelson talking shop, Rich and Charlie, checking out Charlie's engine compartment.
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Some ZR-1's in the back.
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Scott's on the lift.
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Jim, Rich and Charlie, working on Charlie's, correcting his problem.
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GOLDCYLON
07-09-2016, 11:40 PM
Looks like you all had a great time :-D
Roadster
07-09-2016, 11:48 PM
Just two guys passing by posing for a pic.....who are these guys???
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One of Jim's Z's FOR SALE.....with a great sounding exhaust....and the guys taking a break...
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Two other guys who stopped by for a pic.....
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My Z up on the lift....
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A real good time, can't wait to do it again.....And a big thanks especially to Jim and Rich, who worked on my Z and to Jim and Lyndi for their hospitality.
Roadster
07-09-2016, 11:53 PM
Looks like you all had a great time :-D
We sure did.....:D
GOLDCYLON
07-10-2016, 12:05 AM
I can't believe Jim is selling a Z :cheers:
Roadster
07-10-2016, 12:27 AM
I can't believe Jim is selling a Z :cheers:
Either can he!!!:)
Kevin
07-10-2016, 01:22 AM
I wish I lived closer, I really do.
Arctic91
07-10-2016, 07:38 AM
Great to have gotten the chance to see everyone at least once before we start our move in a few weeks, and t was a pleasure to have met both Tom and Rich. I'm really going to miss the comradery and help that comes with being a part of this group, but hope that we can get back here in a couple short years!
Scott
We Gone
07-10-2016, 08:02 AM
I wish I lived closer, I really do.
I'll second that.. ZR-1 guys are a great group. :fahne:
ZR1North
07-10-2016, 08:17 AM
Looks like another productive and fun day, gents. WAZOO is the best. Looking forward to Jim's and Lynid's documented trip to Newfoundland later this year - we're in for a treat with great pictures of great geography.
QB93Z
07-10-2016, 09:26 AM
Thanks for the pictures Tom. It was nice to meet you. We did get a lot of issues fixed with so many people working. Thanks to Richard for jumping right in and turning wrenches.
Bob's drivability issue (low rpm, light throttle misfire/stumble) was solved by replacing the spark plugs.
Charlie's drivability issue (stumble on moderate/heavy acceleration) was the result of throttle cable mis-adjustment by a dealership that worked on the A/C compressor. At full throttle, the throttle position sensor indicated 59%. I guess the ECM was confused by full power signal from the MAP, but 59% from the TPS. By adjusting and aligning the throttle cable between the ASR and the throttle, the problem was solved. A Tech I was invaluable in diagnosing this problem. We used a fuel pressure gauge with a long hose to rule out a weak fuel pump.
Jim
QB93Z
07-10-2016, 09:34 AM
I can't believe Jim is selling a Z :cheers:
Yes, the Black/Black 1990 Lingenfelter 368 is for sale. It turns out that when Lyndi suggested I buy a low-mile ZR-1 to use as our Road Trip Z, it wasn't permission to have 4 ZR-1's.
Looks like another productive and fun day, gents. WAZOO is the best. Looking forward to Jim's and Lynid's documented trip to Newfoundland later this year - we're in for a treat with great pictures of great geography.
Thanks, we leave for the Newfoundland trip in two weeks. Sorry that I won't get to your part of Ontario this trip.
Jim
Vette73
07-10-2016, 09:55 AM
Any moe info on the 90 368 car? Mileage price? Can't beat a shiny black Z..Car must be a blast to drive with plenty of torque...
QB93Z
07-10-2016, 10:16 AM
Here are the specifics on the ZR-1 that I will be selling.
For Sale - 1990 Corvette ZR-1 Black with Black interior 43,xxx miles.
Price $27,000
VIN: 1G1YZ23J0L5802315
This is a performance enhanced ZR-1. Here is a summary of the work that Lingenfelter Performance Engineering did on this ZR-1.
August 1991:
Disassemble Engine
Balance & blueprint the crankshaft assembly
Three Angle valve job
Port and flow test the heads
Port complete intake track
Degree the camshaft
Assemble the engine
Oct - Dec 1992:
Headers
Calibration
Camshaft cover seal
Press Regulator cover gasket
Plenum gaskets
Muffler clamp
Bell Housing bolt
Battery
Dec 2001-Jan 2002:
368 CID package
Crower rods
Cosworth pistons
Eradispeed Rotors
New clutch
Plug wires
Power steering pulley
Serpentine belt
VSS Sensor
Temperature Sensor
Power Switch
Total Lingenfelter cost: $37,128
The "368 package" is not broken down in detail but Graham Behan, a Lotus Engineer that works for Lingenfelter now, said that the 368 package included a modified cam profile in 2002. (The original invoices for this work come with the car.)
Long-tube headers were installed by Lingenfelter. The headers have air injection tubing installed (required by NJ at the time.) I removed the AIR system and capped the tubes because one of the AIR check valves was causing a clicking noise.
More upgrades:
The car has a Corsa Performance stainless steel exhaust system.
The car comes with both the painted top and the clear acrylic top and the storage bag.
The Pioneer In-dash Navigation System, AVIC-130BT, was professionally installed by Westminster Speed and Sound. It includes an auxiliary amplifier and four new speakers. The original Bose head unit comes with the car.
The car has an aftermarket, remote door unlock and hatch release system installed by Westminster Speed and Sound. The car comes with both fobs.
The Shelby Series 1 wheels were installed in 2011. The rear tires have been on for about 10,000 miles, the fronts for a little less. The original, stock wheels come with the car.
I installed a Hurst Short-Throw shifter, with no reverse lockout
I installed a Hiabeck Line-Lock system. It is connected to the brake lines at the ABS unit behind the drivers seat.
I replaced:
the driver's side window switches
the passenger side window motor and regulator
the oil pressure sensor and connector
the idler pulley
alternator (in progress)
Roadster
07-10-2016, 11:42 AM
I wish I lived closer, I really do.
Maybe we can shrink our state a little, so you could be closer....
I am sure with Jim's knowledge and expertise on the LT5, he would really have a handle on the problems you are having. I am 2hrs, 40 min from the WAZOO Headquarters, but worth every traveling mile just to spend the day with the group....
Great to have gotten the chance to see everyone at least once before we start our move in a few weeks, and it was a pleasure to have met both Tom and Rich. I'm really going to miss the comradery and help that comes with being a part of this group, but hope that we can get back here in a couple short years!
Scott
Wishing you the best in your new move once again Scott. Stay safe, and with the site you will be able to keep up with everything that is going on.
Let us know how you make out with the trans fluid change, hope it goes well.
I'll second that.. ZR-1 guys are a great group. :fahne:
Me too.....just so much fun...
Looks like another productive and fun day, gents. WAZOO is the best. Looking forward to Jim's and Lynid's documented trip to Newfoundland later this year - we're in for a treat with great pictures of great geography.
Yes it was and yes it is.........
Thanks for the pictures Tom. It was nice to meet you. We did get a lot of issues fixed with so many people working. Thanks to Richard for jumping right in and turning wrenches.
Bob's drivability issue (low rpm, light throttle misfire/stumble) was solved by replacing the spark plugs.
Charlie's drivability issue (stumble on moderate/heavy acceleration) was the result of throttle cable mis-adjustment by a dealership that worked on the A/C compressor. At full throttle, the throttle position sensor indicated 59%. I guess the ECM was confused by full power signal from the MAP, but 59% from the TPS. By adjusting and aligning the throttle cable between the ASR and the throttle, the problem was solved. A Tech I was invaluable in diagnosing this problem. We used a fuel pressure gauge with a long hose to rule out a weak fuel pump.
Jim
My pleasure Jim, again had a great time.....
And for anyone considering Jim's Black 90, it is one nice ZR-1 and I have to repeat myself, the exhaust is something else to hear, it sounds that great.
You can be assured you would be purchasing one fine machine.....
GLWS Jim........
Kevin
07-10-2016, 11:44 AM
Maybe we can shrink our state a little, so you could be closer....
I am sure with Jim's knowledge and expertise on the LT5, he would really have a handle on the problems you are having. I am 2hrs, 40 min from the WAZOO Headquarters, but worth every traveling mile just to spend the day with the group....
I'd be willing to give up a fairly large part of pennslytucky
Roadster
07-10-2016, 12:26 PM
I'd be willing to give up a fairly large part of pennslytucky
I hear you there.....
Roadster
07-10-2016, 12:37 PM
Jim and Rich....
FYI, even though it showed I was a quart down on the oil dip stick when up on the rack, I waited until a few minutes ago, and rechecked, not even a pint down. So it appears to really check the oil when these engines are stone cold, to allow for all of that oil to drain down completely.
I also opened the radiator cap and the level was down, used more of the distilled water and kept squeezing the upper radiator hose to get the air out. Apparently there is some air left as I could hear the LS of the radiator groaning from time to time. And the hose is getting a little harder to squeeze as I imagine more fluid is filling in the hose. Will check later, I am sure I will go through a few cycles to get completely filled and all air out.
Just need to wash later (can't wait) and gas up.......
GOLDCYLON
07-10-2016, 01:08 PM
Yes, the Black/Black 1990 Lingenfelter 368 is for sale. It turns out that when Lyndi suggested I buy a low-mile ZR-1 to use as our Road Trip Z, it wasn't permission to have 4 ZR-1's
Jim
I hate it when that happens Jim I'm only working on car #2 ;)
QB93Z
07-10-2016, 01:11 PM
I hate it when that happens Jim I'm only working on car #2 ;)
I should have known it was too good to be true. I will add that she is being very patient since I haven't really tried to sell it.
Jim
GOLDCYLON
07-10-2016, 01:35 PM
I should have known it was too good to be true. I will add that she is being very patient since I haven't really tried to sell it.
Jim
My only concern Jim is your clearing out your only early model Z and retaining the later models but this car will tear the lips off the later models as configured
efnfast
07-10-2016, 03:23 PM
Here are the specifics on the ZR-1 that I will be selling.
For Sale - 1990 Corvette ZR-1Black with Black interior 43,xxx miles.
Price $27,000
VIN:1G1YZ23J0L5802315
This is a performance enhanced ZR-1. Here is a summary of the work that Lingenfelter Performance Engineering did on this ZR-1.
August 1991:
Disassemble Engine
Balance & blueprint the crankshaft assembly
Three Angle valve job
Port and flow test the heads
Port complete intake track
Degree the camshaft
Assemble the engine
Oct - Dec 1992:
Headers
Calibration
Camshaft cover seal
Press Regulator cover gasket
Plenum gaskets
Muffler clamp
Bell Housing bolt
Battery
Dec 2001-Jan 2002:
368 CID package
Crower rods
Cosworth pistons
Eradispeed Rotors
New clutch
Plug wires
Power steering pulley
Serpentine belt
VSS Sensor
Temperature Sensor
Power Switch
Total Lingenfelter cost: $37,128
The "368 package" is not broken down in detail but Graham Behan, a Lotus Engineer that works for Lingenfelter now, said that the 368 package included a modified cam profile in 2002. (The original invoices for this work come with the car.)
Long-tube headers were installed by Lingenfelter. The headers have air injection tubing installed (required by NJ at the time.) I removed the AIR system and capped the tubes because one of the AIR check valves was causing a clicking noise.
More upgrades:
The car has a Corsa Performance stainless steel exhaust system.
The car comes with both the painted top and the clear acrylic top and the storage bag.
The Pioneer In-dash Navigation System, AVIC-130BT, was professionally installed by Westminster Speed and Sound. It includes an auxiliary amplifier and four new speakers. The original Bose head unit comes with the car.
The car has an aftermarket, remote door unlock and hatch release system installed by Westminster Speed and Sound. The car comes with both fobs.
The Shelby Series 1 wheels were installed in 2011. The rear tires have been on for about 10,000 miles, the fronts for a little less. The original, stock wheels come with the car.
I installed a Hurst Short-Throw shifter, with no reverse lockout
I installed a Hiabeck Line-Lock system. It is connected to the brake lines at the ABS unit behind the drivers seat.
I replaced:
the driver's side window switches
the passenger side window motor and regulator
the oil pressure sensor and connector
the idler pulley
alternator (in progress)
My car is a black on black 90, maybe my wife wouldn't notice.
Jim, any idea on hp?
Steve
GOLDCYLON
07-10-2016, 03:36 PM
My car is a black on black 90, maybe my wife wouldn't notice.
Jim, any idea on hp?
Steve
Steve just swap it out and tell her you took it to audio express for an new radio and a tune. ;)
dredgeguy
07-10-2016, 04:12 PM
I am soooooo happy that my car is running right again. Now I know why that $*#&^$ dealer took 5 days to put in a compressor, they were trying to figure out what they broke. They just do not have a clue and instead of fessing up, they just take your money and give you the keys and hope you do not come back. Not a problem, I will not be back. Thanks again Jim:cheers:
dredgeguy
07-10-2016, 04:14 PM
One more thing, pleasure meeting you Tom and looking forward to seeing you at Carlisle. Scott, safe travels and hope to see you before you ship out. Nelson, glad your back in the USA and to the rest of Wazoo, you are a very special group and looking forward to cooking for you and the rest of the Registry at Carlisle.
Paul Workman
07-10-2016, 05:04 PM
I wish I lived closer, I really do.
That's what the Registry is all about!
Kev, you're only 3hrs and 40 minutes away.... But, if it isn't running it might as well be on the moon too, I spoze!
Still hoping to do Carlisle. And, if there's any others passing through, maybe a similar event could spontaneously occur at your place? Just a thought. (But, I don't work for ice-cream!:p)
Kevin
07-10-2016, 08:22 PM
That's what the Registry is all about!
Kev, you're only 3hrs and 40 minutes away.... But, if it isn't running it might as well be on the moon too, I spoze!
Still hoping to do Carlisle. And, if there's any others passing through, maybe a similar event could spontaneously occur at your place? Just a thought. (But, I don't work for ice-cream!:p)
It's not even the working on the car, though it's running fine and I'm about to take it for a drive here soon, it's just the comradery. Having other owners to hang out with and BS with. It's why I was so active on the listserv and why I'm so active here. That sense of belonging.
Roadster
07-10-2016, 09:48 PM
One more thing, pleasure meeting you Tom and looking forward to seeing you at Carlisle. Scott, safe travels and hope to see you before you ship out. Nelson, glad your back in the USA and to the rest of Wazoo, you are a very special group and looking forward to cooking for you and the rest of the Registry at Carlisle.
Same here Charlie, just made my reservation at the Clarion....looking forward to seeing everyone at Carlisle.......
ZRapid-1
07-11-2016, 07:50 PM
This picture is amazing.
Looks like it's chrome plated.
You guys do nice work down there!
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20160709_124349.jpg
Kevin
07-11-2016, 08:29 PM
This picture is amazing.
Looks like it's chrome plated.
You guys do nice work down there!
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20160709_124349.jpg
That does look amazing, I need to learn to run a buffer
Roadster
07-11-2016, 10:38 PM
This picture is amazing.
Looks like it's chrome plated.
You guys do nice work down there!
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20160709_124349.jpg
That does look amazing, I need to learn to run a buffer
Thank you both for the compliment, it is appreciated. I wanted to capture the excellent work that Charlie does with the buffer. And I thought that nothing like a deep, deep reflection would show it better than any other angle.
Kevin, I also learned how to correctly use my buffer 2 years ago. There is quite an assortment of videos on You Tube that show just that. The Adams videos are quite good, check them out......
Vette Guy
07-13-2016, 02:04 AM
Man, do I ever miss the WAZOO guys.... Anyone there interested in moving to Texas?
Charlie, there's always room for more BBQ here....
Jim, we have bigger garages - you wouldn't need to sell any....
Don't forget to grab Darren, Nelson and the rest of the group!
Regards,
Mark
Z51JEFF
07-13-2016, 03:02 AM
Wish we had a group like that out here in Ca,we got nuthin!
robrtr
07-13-2016, 09:12 AM
Sorry I missed meeting you at the last WMD, Tom. Darn family keeps visiting at the worst times. Thanks for posting your pics. Looking forward to the next one. I second your observations about WAZOO. Great bunch of guys and amazingly knowledgable.
Ralph
Roadster
07-13-2016, 11:38 AM
Sorry I missed meeting you at the last WMD, Tom. Darn family keeps visiting at the worst times. Thanks for posting your pics. Looking forward to the next one. I second your observations about WAZOO. Great bunch of guys and amazingly knowledgable.
Ralph
I'm sure we'll catch up soon Ralph, either at Carlisle or the next WMD. Glad you liked the pics, I enjoy taking them, either have people pose, or just catching them in whatever they are doing at the time. I like the "action" shots....:)
Yes I agree big time especially with the depth of knowledge on the LT5.
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