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Johnny5
06-08-2016, 03:22 AM
Did anyone buy a c5 key fob or something and connect it to our car? is that possible or does a whole alarm have to be connected?
-=Jeff=-
06-08-2016, 08:35 AM
I don't think that is really feasible to do. The old GM VKE1000 kit was a universal keyless entry kit that had a GM styled remote. I had one on my 89, kit was around $100 when they were available.
I have a DEI Valet kit on my ZR-1, essentially the SAME kit as the VKE1000, a couple slight differences and different remote fobs.. I paid $35 for it and then installed it myself
Billy Mild
06-08-2016, 10:11 AM
I have seen that the VKE1000 kit is still around but it is NOS.
How difficult is it to install? I would rather have GM looking remotes vs. aftermarket ones.
-=Jeff=-
06-08-2016, 10:17 AM
this is geared towards a 89-older, but will help
http://www.batee.com/corvette/keylessentry/
up to you to make the difficulty decision as I don't know you skill set for installing these. I have installed 4 or 5 alarms and a couple entry kits so it was not bad to me
GOLDCYLON
06-08-2016, 10:26 AM
I have seen that the VKE1000 kit is still around but it is NOS.
How difficult is it to install? I would rather have GM looking remotes vs. aftermarket ones.
Since PKE wasn't available till 93 from the factory whatever you have wont be factory anyway. Just get a viper remote entry system without the alarm. It will be in your pocket most of the time who will ever know. I have run that option in 3 c4's to date without a problem. The PKE system from the factory was nothing but problems. :cheers:
-=Jeff=-
06-08-2016, 10:38 AM
yeah something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Directed-Electronics-2101L-Vehicle-Keyless/dp/B002FYEG8Q?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
or if you want PKE:
https://www.amazon.com/DEI-Passive-Automotive-Automatic-unlocking/dp/B0096DLZLK?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
EDIT: the 2101L is essentially the VKE-1000.. I mean the wiring is 98% the same. for a fraction of the price. I have that same one, but an older model with older remotes. The trunk button on mine says Aux, I don't have it connected currently, as I use the second pulse of the Unlock for the Hatch release. I might rewire it for the aux wire though
Billy Mild
06-08-2016, 10:37 PM
It seemed like a lot of people liked the VKE1000 at least from the research I have done. Was the VKE1000 a plug and plug affair for 1993-up cars?
-=Jeff=-
06-08-2016, 11:34 PM
It seemed like a lot of people liked the VKE1000 at least from the research I have done. Was the VKE1000 a plug and plug affair for 1993-up cars?
no it is not a plugin solution. If it were me I would buy the one I posted.. it is virtually the SAME as the VKE. if I recall there was a member here selling VKE for $200 or close to it..
GOLDCYLON
06-09-2016, 01:01 AM
It seemed like a lot of people liked the VKE1000 at least from the research I have done. Was the VKE1000 a plug and plug affair for 1993-up cars?
No it is complex and a lot of wires and was normally a dealer aftermarket install. Today's tech is much better I suggest you listen to -=JEFF=- he knows what he is talking about. He has done a few electronic projects for me in the past.
Billy Mild
06-09-2016, 10:26 AM
I can do stereo installs, but I will leave installing Keyless Entry system to the experts.
When I called a local car audio shop(well recommended BTW), they don't install customer provided hardware. They will only install Viper systems. I was concerned installing a true aftermarket system due to the Key Fobs, and wanting a more "factory" solution. Sounds like ZR-1 guys could care less about having it look factory.
-=Jeff=-
06-09-2016, 10:46 AM
I can do stereo installs, but I will leave installing Keyless Entry system to the experts.
When I called a local car audio shop(well recommended BTW), they don't install customer provided hardware. They will only install Viper systems. I was concerned installing a true aftermarket system due to the Key Fobs, and wanting a more "factory" solution. Sounds like ZR-1 guys could care less about having it look factory.
Having what look factory? the FOBs? I would absolutely love to have OEM FOBs, but not for the Premium cost of finding a VKE.
The wiring will not be plug and play, it will be wires tapped into other wires and the door lock wires have to be cut and spliced due to the nature of the Power lock design of our cars. if you look at the Batee Link I posted a picture shows the VKE 1000 box with a price of $99. That would be the MAX I would pay for a VKE that was manufactured 10+ years ago.
If you want to keep it factory, then that would be installing nothing and using the key to unlock the door.
Keep in mine if you install a keyless system and shut the doors and lock the car with the key fob, the factory alarm is not set. The way the factory alarm is set or armed, is door/s open, Key out of ignition, then hit the power lock button.
I have my system wired to disarm on unlock, and I am still figuring out the arm with door shut..
Johnny5
06-10-2016, 01:09 AM
wow only $35 for keyless entry, that's a great deal if you ask me
Johnny5
06-10-2016, 01:13 AM
yeah something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Directed-Electronics-2101L-Vehicle-Keyless/dp/B002FYEG8Q?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
or if you want PKE:
https://www.amazon.com/DEI-Passive-Automotive-Automatic-unlocking/dp/B0096DLZLK?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
EDIT: the 2101L is essentially the VKE-1000.. I mean the wiring is 98% the same. for a fraction of the price. I have that same one, but an older model with older remotes. The trunk button on mine says Aux, I don't have it connected currently, as I use the second pulse of the Unlock for the Hatch release. I might rewire it for the aux wire though
the first one you posted looks great for $35. I had a 94 with the passive keyless entry, it annoyed the **** out of me whenever i stood by or washed/worked on my car
Johnny5
06-10-2016, 01:17 AM
is avital a good brand or should i spend the extra $15 and get Viper?
Z51JEFF
06-10-2016, 04:04 AM
no it is not a plugin solution. If it were me I would buy the one I posted.. it is virtually the SAME as the VKE. if I recall there was a member here selling VKE for $200 or close to it..
That was me. No bites so I decided to keep it. Didn't know the system isn't armed with the remote lock. Might sell it if somebody wants it. I paid $200 for it.
-=Jeff=-
06-10-2016, 07:50 AM
is avital a good brand or should i spend the extra $15 and get Viper?
Avital and viper are made by the same company..
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Johnny5
06-10-2016, 05:26 PM
thanks guys, i bought the Avital for $35 and im going to try and find threads for installation. if it seems too difficult i will use LI Sounds as John does good work there and I'm taking my girlfriends hyundai there to install a double din unit so she can have bluetooth and back up camera bc parking that car is terrible. all the new cars are terrible when backing up you can't see ****!
Johnny5
06-10-2016, 07:46 PM
Does anyone have a how to guide for installing the Avital 1 way keyless entry system? I do a lot of mechanical stuff but not electronics.
cvette98pacecar
06-10-2016, 08:18 PM
I have 5 VKE1000 NIB. I think I paid $100.00 Each. So if you are serious send me a PM.
Johnny5
06-10-2016, 10:23 PM
Idk what VKE is rob but from what i heard you have to cut into the electrics anyway so i bought a keyless entry system flr $35. The lower brand of VIPER; avitral. I just need the unlock n lock button i dont need anything else
-=Jeff=-
06-10-2016, 11:58 PM
Idk what VKE is rob but from what i heard you have to cut into the electrics anyway so i bought a keyless entry system flr $35. The lower brand of VIPER; avitral. I just need the unlock n lock button i dont need anything else
VKE has the GM style ( early 2000) remotes.. one button says GM.. the Brain is essentially the same one you bought Johnny.. both have to be tapped or spliced to the harness.. follow the Batee info along with a service manual and all is good
Top Toy
06-19-2016, 10:07 PM
I also have a VKE1000 (new in box) for sale. $100. PM if interested.
BigJohn
06-19-2016, 10:34 PM
Automatic Center Punch!
Johnny5
06-20-2016, 12:17 AM
I already bought the Avitral I'm having it installed tomorrow.
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