Jumper to avoid being stranded with a failed Primary Fuel Pump

[QB93Z]

After the fourth time that a failed primary fuel pump "stranded" a ZR-1 (mine once and three friends' ZR-1's). I decided to make an extension cable that swaps which fuel pump acts as pump # 1.

Background: If number 1 fuel pump fails, the LT5 will start properly but then die after a short period of time. When the engine is cold, the period may be almost a minute. When the engine is at operating temperature the engine will die immediately after starting.

This happens because the ECM energizes BOTH fuel pumps on engine start. So the Secondary Fuel Pump supplies fuel to the injectors while the primary pump does nothing. Once the engine is operating properly, the ECM turns off the Secondary Fuel Pump and the car stalls.

Here is my solution:

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This jumper switches the wires in the plug to make the Secondary Fuel Pump get power from the Primary Fuel Pump's source. The jumper is pretty easy to install:

1. Pull back the rubber boot around the gas filler neck to access the wiring harness that is clipped to the rear facia:

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2. Remove the small gray lock pin from the connector clip:

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3. Separate the male and female halves of the connector:

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4. Then connect the ends of the jumper into the circuit to the pumps.

5. Start the car to test the connections. As soon as possible, replace the failed primary fuel pump and remove the jumper.

6. I recommend that if you use the jumper to swap a failed primary fuel pump, you should turn the Power Key OFF (Normal). Without the second fuel pump operating, if the secondaries opened, there might be a problem with a lean condition due to insufficient fuel supply.

Based on the rules of Murphy's Law and Good Mojo, when I carry this jumper, I will never need it, just like the alternator that I have carried for about 30,000 miles of road trips that I haven't needed to use.

Enjoy the Road,

Jim

[Demps]

Genius!

Part numbers and source(s)...sorry if I missed them.

Ted

[Dynomite]

Just so I understand this Jim......

The jumper you made up can be much shorter as it is only used to just switch wiring within the connector?

Exactly which wires are switched?
We have green, white, red, black wires from bottom to top on each side of the connector.
Green (on right) now goes (in your jumper connector) to what color (on left) and so on? I assume only two wires are switched....which two wires?

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Great concept/solution Jim :thumbsup:
Thanks :handshak:

Oh....Jim I do carry tools and a volt meter (drivers side box), Jumper Cables and Nylon Tow cable (passenger Side Box) behind seat. I also carry a Tow Bar Adapter located between passenger seat and door sill with Lug Nut Wrench.

I have never carried a spare alternator ;)

[Kevin]

I need one of these

[RussMcB]

Clever. Thanks for sharing.

[PhillipsLT5]

I need one of these

Me too

[Hib Halverson]

Why not jump the secondary fuel pump test connection to the battery?

Isn't that easier?

[QB93Z]

Why not jump the secondary fuel pump test connection to the battery?

Isn't that easier?

The Fuel Pump Test Connection in the wire bundle near the ECM cannot power the fuel pumps when the ignition is ON.

The fuel pump test connection is very useful when 12 Vdc is applied with an ammeter. A running fuel pump will draw about (I don't remember the exact number) 4 amps. If the ammeter reading is > 8 amps, then two pumps are running in test mode.

Jim

[QB93Z]

Just so I understand this Jim......

The jumper you made up can be much shorter as it is only used to just switch wiring within the connector?

Exactly which wires are switched?
We have green, white, red, black wires from bottom to top on each side of the connector.
Green (on right) now goes (in your jumper connector) to what color (on left) and so on? I assume only two wires are switched....which two?

There are four wires in the connector:

Black - DC ground
Purple - Fuel level sensor signal to the fuel gauge display
Gray - 12 vdc to a fuel pump
Lt Green (or Green/White) - 12 vdc to the other fuel pump

My short jumper is just a cross-over jumper, as Cliff said. By switching (crossing) the gray and green wires, the 12 vdc from the Primary Fuel Pump is routed to the Secondary Fuel Pump.

The part number for the connector on the harness (car side) is:

Connector, elec, Fuel Pump, Male GM 12085534 (AC Delco PT145)

Here is the part on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-PT145-Original-Equipment-Multi-Purpose/dp/B000C9SNX0

I haven't verified by ordering the connector for the pump side of the connection. I got the connector I used from a take-out fuel pump assembly from WAZOO donated parts. I THINK (but haven't verified) that GM 88861069 is the female connector, but I can't find a source with a picture.

Jim

[RussMcB]

I did something similar, but not as nice. I just cut the two FP wires and inserted crimp-on bullet male/female connections, so it's pretty easy to unplug them and reattach them Gray to Green and Green to Gray.

[GOLDCYLON]

Outstanding Mod. Im an electrical noob. Who wants to make a run of these? Jim? tell me where to send the money.. Outstanding :handshak:

[Dynomite]

I haven't verified by ordering the connector for the pump side of the connection. I got the connector I used from a take-out fuel pump assembly from WAZOO donated parts. I THINK (but haven't verified) that GM 88861069 is the female connector, but I can't find a source with a picture.

Jim

Thanks Jim :thumbsup:
I am not so sure about that GM88861069 for female connector. I cannot find that on Amazon. If someone finds a source of that female connector that would be great......

[GOLDCYLON]

Hmm i'm piecing some parts together. If it works out I could make a small run of these to those who are interested if Jim is not adverse to it. Jim any issues since its your idea ?

[mike100]

I like the idea of having one to throw in the storage bin. If somebody orders a bag of the connectors, I'll chip in. I think this same plug is used in a couple of different spots so it may also be possible to find another GM car that has this and clip a few next trip to the wrecking yard. Sometimes just buying new parts is less work though.

[QB93Z]

I also had trouble finding the female connector, which is why I cannibalized an old unit to get the connector.

There are many uses of the four-tower weather pack connector, but you have to get the one that is "keyed" for this application. There are slots and ridges that have to be in the right places. I will try again to ID the correct connector.

If some one wants to make these it is fine with me.

Jim

[WVZR-1]

The connector shell on the "TANK UNIT" is actually MALE but is a female gendered connector because of the terminals inserted.


These are very basic Weather-Pack and the most economical approach is just by the appropriate male, female connector "shell" and create your own indexing. You need to remember when discussing GM/Packard/Delphi connectors that it's the terminal that dictates the "gender" and NOT the shell. Weather-Pack is unique because either a female or male terminal can be inserted into the shell. It depends on the component just how it's configured. A VSS uses a backward assembly procedure.

Any NAPA, or truck parts supplier can supply you with the shells, the terminals, the seals used in the assembly.

These people catalog Weather-Pack pretty well and have all of the correct seals, terminals and cavity plugs needed. They actually have pig-tails also and theirs would be actual Weather-Pack and not a similar assembly done by PICO or some other "off-shore" supplier. You could pin and unpin theirs at will.

http://www.whiteproducts.com/weather_pack.shtml

I buy from another vendor but these guys image things pretty well.

I have an application reference for "indexed" shells but most are discontinued so it's somewhat irrelevant.

I did something similar, but not as nice. I just cut the to FP wires and inserted crimp-on bullet male/female connections, so it's pretty easy to unplug them and reattach them Gray to Green and Green to Gray.

If you wanted you could "tidy up" yours just by using two way Weather-Packs, one pair to correct where the "bullets" are now and a second pair done to accomplish the "cross-over".

[QB93Z]

In my stash of connectors, I found the second connector that I ordered

The connector that is on the Fuel Pump Assembly (Tank Unit) is in fact the male (my info above was in error, thanks WVZR-1). It is GM 88861069, AC Delco PT2141.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055ALMG6/ref=as_int_dp

If you want to assemble a jumper from two replacement (new) connectors, take care to keep the wire sequences correct. The new connectors are pigtail sets that are not color coded.

The terminals are marked A - B - C - D The normal wiring ID is:

A - Black - DC Ground
B - Purple - Fuel gauge signal
C - Gray - Fuel Pump
D - Green/white - Fuel Pump

To make the crossover, switch the C and D terminals on one end of the jumper.

A-------------------------A

B-------------------------B

C---------\ /-------------C
D---------/ \-------------D

Jim

[WVZR-1]

These I believe would be the correctly "indexed" shells for the harness:

12020832 looks to be indexed A @ 12:00 (black) and D @ 3:00 (green/white) with the latch on top, this is what is currently on the sender with female terminals in it. Several vendors have that shell. 12020830 should be an appropriate shell for mating and would require just the appropriate male terminals. I don't know why you would need the CPA but 12020833 would get you that if you wanted a couple.

15324982 should be the correct green seals for the individual wires in the connectors.

I'll post back with what I believe should be the appropriate terminals. I don't recall the wire sizes and I'll need Jim to verify the indexing of the shell on the tank unit. I'm doing that mostly from memory but I believe it's appropriate.

Mouser it appears seems to have the correct shells and the CPA. Just use the part numbers I mentioned above to search. They could be available from many others and I don't buy often from Mouser but I've had good service in the past. Their "minimum" best I recall was very realistic and if someone was doing a few of these it would likely be appropriate to just let that person do the procuring from whomever. I didn't check the vendor I use for these part numbers.

http://www.mouser.com/

12089040 for male terminals I believe (I assumed .5 - .8 wire) and 12089188 for the female terminal.

Part #'s required per car:

12020832 X 1, 12020830 X 1, 15324982 X 8, 12089040 X 4, 12089188 X 4 and 12020833 X 1 if you wanted the CPA.

[Hib Halverson]

The Fuel Pump Test Connection in the wire bundle near the ECM cannot power the fuel pumps when the ignition is ON.

The fuel pump test connection is very useful when 12 Vdc is applied with an ammeter. A running fuel pump will draw about (I don't remember the exact number) 4 amps. If the ammeter reading is > 8 amps, then two pumps are running in test mode.

Jim

Dumbassed question. I should know that.
Sorry.:(

[GOLDCYLON]

Ive talked to my local electrical guy about making these. We figure $30 shipped Lower 48. I have asked him about making a run of 20 if we have enough interest. Once we have ten signed up I will tell him to start making them and start ordering the connectors and wire and post up the prototype

1. GOLDCYLON
2. PHILLIPSLT5
3. GEEZER (Canada)
4. ZR1North
5. GSJOE X 2
6. CHRISKINZEL
7. CVETTE98PACECAR X2
8. DYNOMITE X4
9. NELSON007 X2
10. WEGONE
11. SCOTTZ95ZR-1 x2
12. MYSTICZR-1
13. DEMPS
14. ROADSTER
15. HAWAIIZR-1
16. ANDY
17. HIZNHRZ
18. 90206

[PhillipsLT5]

Ive talked to my local electrical guy about making these. We figure $30 shipped Lower 48. I have asked him about making a run of 20 if we have enough interest. Once we have ten signed up I will tell him to start making them and start ordering the connectors and wire and post up the prototype

1. GOLDCYLON
2. PHILLIPSLT5 (Assumed)

I am in, no need to ship, just a cold 1

[GOLDCYLON]

Ok any others out there ?

[geezer]

I'm in-- with additional cost to ship to Canada.

[ZR1North]

I am in as well.

[GSJoe]

Ok any others out there ?

Joe Rose (GS Joe)...I'll need two, one for me and one for my godson, Clint Morgan. Where and when do I send money?

[chriskinzel]

I'm in. Never needed one before, hope to never use the one. But...

[Dynomite]

Ive talked to my local electrical guy about making these. We figure $30 shipped Lower 48. I have asked him about making a run of 20 if we have enough interest. Once we have ten signed up I will tell him to start making them and start ordering the connectors and wire and post up the prototype

1. GOLDCYLON
2. PHILLIPSLT5 (Assumed)

How long is the jumper you are making and I assume it plugs right in to each each end of the disconnected existing plug shown below?

What is the shortest jumper you can make? It would appear that the shortest jumper would be with two new connectors back to back with just enough room to cross wires green and gray (white).

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[cvette98pacecar]

Count me in for 2.

[WVZR-1]

I would think you would want sufficient length between connectors to maybe pass the four wires through a "heat-shrink" tube when constructing and then shrinking to keep the bundle secure. Wouldn't need to be long but I believe needs to have some length to avoid struggling when connecting.

I'd think Jim has first-hand knowledge of a practical length and I'd certainly inquire/enlist his help before constructing.

Cliff - did you check the "clocking" of the black and green/white on yours?

[Dynomite]

I would think you would want sufficient length between connectors to maybe pass the four wires through a "heat-shrink" tube when constructing and then shrinking to keep the bundle secure. Wouldn't need to be long but I believe needs to have some length to avoid struggling when connecting.

I'd think Jim has first-hand knowledge of a practical length and I'd certainly inquire/enlist his help before constructing.

Cliff - did you check the "clocking" of the black and green/white on yours?

Good suggestions and what I was thinking also in terms of installation without having too long a jumper to try and stuff back into position under the rubber boot :handshak:

I am going with what Jim described as follows.......and I am assuming 90's and 91's are identical.



A - Black - DC Ground
B - Purple - Fuel gauge signal
C - Gray - Fuel Pump
D - Green/white - Fuel Pump
Jim

Black is Black,
Purple I call Red,
Gray I call White,
Green/white I call Green.
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Background: If number 1 fuel pump fails, the LT5 will start properly but then die after a short period of time. When the engine is cold, the period may be almost a minute. When the engine is at operating temperature the engine will die immediately after starting.

This happens because the ECM energizes BOTH fuel pumps on engine start. So the Secondary Fuel Pump supplies fuel to the injectors while the primary pump does nothing. Once the engine is operating properly, the ECM turns off the Secondary Fuel Pump and the car stalls.

Why does the ECM have to energize BOTH fuel pumps on starting?

Ok any others out there ?
Four Jumpers for Dynomite.......;)

[nelson007]

Count me in for two sets.

Nelson007

[WVZR-1]

Good suggestions and what I was thinking also in terms of installation without having too long a jumper to try and stuff back into position under the rubber boot :handshak:

I am going with what Jim described as follows.......and I am assuming 90's and 91's are identical.



Black is Black,
Purple I call Red,
Gray I call White,
Green/white I call Green.

Four Jumpers for Dynomite.......;)

Not what I meant but I'm pretty confident that what I mentioned in my post is correct A - black 12:00 to latch and the D - green/white 3:00 to latch. That would have confirmed my shell part #'s.

[QB93Z]

For the length of the jumper, I recommend 8 to 12 inches. That length allows the harness to be pushed below the rubber boot one "lump" at a time. Then the wire can be pushed in. If the jumper is too short, the whole rigid part becomes bigger than the opening.

All that said, there is plenty of room below the rubber boot for the connectors and wiring.

On a different subject, I recommend that if you use the jumper to swap a failed primary fuel pump, you should turn the Power Key OFF. Without the second fuel pump operating, if the secondaries opened, there might be a problem with a lean condition due to insufficient fuel supply.

Jim

[We Gone]

Add one here... Thanks

[QB93Z]

These I believe would be the correctly "indexed" shells for the harness:

12020832 looks to be indexed A @ 12:00 (black) and D @ 3:00 (green/white) with the latch on top, this is what is currently on the sender with female terminals in it. Several vendors have that shell. 12020830 should be an appropriate shell for mating and would require just the appropriate male terminals. I don't know why you would need the CPA but 12020833 would get you that if you wanted a couple.

15324982 should be the correct green seals for the individual wires in the connectors.

I'll post back with what I believe should be the appropriate terminals. I don't recall the wire sizes and I'll need Jim to verify the indexing of the shell on the tank unit. I'm doing that mostly from memory but I believe it's appropriate.

Mouser it appears seems to have the correct shells and the CPA. Just use the part numbers I mentioned above to search. They could be available from many others and I don't buy often from Mouser but I've had good service in the past. Their "minimum" best I recall was very realistic and if someone was doing a few of these it would likely be appropriate to just let that person do the procuring from whomever. I didn't check the vendor I use for these part numbers.

http://www.mouser.com/

12089040 for male terminals I believe (I assumed .5 - .8 wire) and 12089188 for the female terminal.

Part #'s required per car:

12020832 X 1, 12020830 X 1, 15324982 X 8, 12089040 X 4, 12089188 X 4 and 12020833 X 1 if you wanted the CPA.

Yes, the tank unit connector is indexed A @ 12:00 and D at 3:00 with the latch up.

Jim

[GOLDCYLON]

Ive talked to my local electrical guy about making these. We figure $30 shipped Lower 48. I have asked him about making a run of 20 if we have enough interest. Once we have ten signed up I will tell him to start making them and start ordering the connectors and wire and post up the prototype

1. GOLDCYLON (Sending to Jim Voter FREE)
2. PHILLIPSLT5 (will be paid in person with a cold one in hand)
3. GEEZER (Canada) (Paid)
4. ZR1North (Paid)
5. GSJOE X 2 (Paid)
6. CHRISKINZEL (Awaiitng Payment)
7. CVETTE98PACECAR X2 (Awaiting Payment)
8. DYNOMITE X4 (Paid)
9. NELSON007 X2
10. WEGONE (Pending Payment/Check)
11. SCOTTZ95ZR-1 x2
12. MYSTICZR-1


OK count is at 19 we will make a round of 20 for lot 1

Guy said he will do a long custom measurement with end to end wiring. It will be heat shrinked or wire wrapped to prevent chaffing. Once I have the proto type in hand I will post up the pics and the ordering instructions. Sound good? GC:cheers:

[Mystic ZR-1]

Sign me up for one.
Hope I never need it...

[ScottZ95ZR1]

I'm in for 2 also

[mike100]

If there is an option to buy surplus backshells and pins, I would be interested for that as I can (and would prefer) to make my own wiring to keep it cheap.

[GOLDCYLON]

Sign me up for one.
Hope I never need it...


Ok 17 and the parts have been ordered

[GOLDCYLON]

I'm in for 2 also

Now at 19

[GOLDCYLON]

If there is an option to buy surplus backshells and pins, I would be interested for that as I can (and would prefer) to make my own wiring to keep it cheap.


Maybe after one or a couple of runs.

[Demps]

1 pls

[GOLDCYLON]

ok Demps we will stop at 20 and call run #1 in progress. I called my friend today and he has some parts arriving tomorrow. Stay tunned

[Roadster]

If I can't get in on this batch, put me in for the second batch....thanks.....

[HAWAIIZR-1]

I'm always late to this stuff, but count me in for 1 each!!

Thanks,

[GOLDCYLON]

Tom and Craig we can add you for a batch of 25 Total so 22 and counting. My friend has the parts for the first batch of 10 coming in tomorrow. GC

25 will be the end of the first run. GC

[Roadster]

Sounds good, let me where and when to send payment.....thx....

[GOLDCYLON]

I'm always late to this stuff, but count me in for 1 each!!

Thanks,


Craig 1 Each Army wise or One each for both your rides ?

[Andy]

I'll take one. Just let me know how and when to pay.

Thanks.

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Craig 1 Each Army wise or One each for both your rides ?

Sorry GC, yes just 1 Each Army wise (can't seem to get the QM out of my system...ha, ha). I don't know if I will keep two ZR-1s as much as I would like to. :cheers: Please let me know payment details. Thanks again.

[902066]

Please put me in for one of the 1st 25, and let me know when and how to pay. Thanks Jim.

[HIZNHRZ]

Add 1 for me please!

[RyanChappel]

Given the concern regarding the potential lean situation by running on only the secondary fuel pump, this fix should be absolutely emergency only?

[GOLDCYLON]

Given the concern regarding the potential lean situation by running on only the secondary fuel pump, this fix should be absolutely emergency only?


Yes this is purely a limp home option as an emergency measure. As such should be stored in your glove box or rear storage compartment for those road trips.

[GOLDCYLON]

Ive talked to my local electrical guy about making these. We figure $30 shipped Lower 48. I have asked him about making a run of 20 if we have enough interest. Once we have ten signed up I will tell him to start making them and start ordering the connectors and wire and post up the prototype

1. GOLDCYLON
2. PHILLIPSLT5
3. GEEZER (Canada)
4. ZR1North
5. GSJOE X 2
6. CHRISKINZEL
7. CVETTE98PACECAR X2
8. DYNOMITE X4
9. NELSON007 X2
10. WEGONE
11. SCOTTZ95ZR-1 x2
12. MYSTICZR-1
13. DEMPS
14. ROADSTER
15. HAWAIIZR-1
16. ANDY
17. HIZNHRZ
18. 902066

OK we are at 25. Once the prototype is made I will post of some pics. THEN I will post all the payment instructions. :)

[zrss]

Okay, please put me down for the first 2 from the second batch. Wish I'd seen this a day ago. Thanks.

[tf95ZR1]

GC, I'd like one also.
Thx,
Ted

[Z51JEFF]

JuThe Fuel Pump Test Connection in the wire bundle near the ECM cannot power the fuel pumps when the ignition is ON.

The fuel pump test connection is very useful when 12 Vdc is applied with an ammeter. A running fuel pump will draw about (I don't remember the exact number) 4 amps. If the ammeter reading is > 8 amps, then two pumps are running in test mode.

Jim

I was told by someone in Marc Haibecks shop that the secondary FP pigtail can be used in place of a failed primary FP. For the past year I've had piece of mind knowing the jumper I've had in the car will get me out of a jam. Anybody that wants to make one of these can get all of the GM,Delphi,Packard hardware from Terminal Supply.

[edram454]

Ok any others out there ?

count me in too. edram454 #3028. I have been gone for a couple of days and I just read this. sounds like a great idea.

[Scrrem]

Can I get one as well?
Rich

[GOLDCYLON]

OK 5 total for lot 2 .

[GOLDCYLON]

OK Update... Prototype of the Limp Home Jumper is Complete. Each jumper is 7.5 Inches long with straight wire strands end to end and heat shrink wrapped. Should hold up for those limp home events. I will pick up the first 10 units this thursday.

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l498/goldcylon/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/3F1C2BBE-1152-4901-862D-F74241144A08_zps8ib1tulz.jpg


In position on Test Vett

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[We Gone]

Nice job, PM the payment method.

[GOLDCYLON]

Ok I will send out the first order of ten on friday. I will accept Cash, Personal Checks or Paypal. If you use Paypal sorry you have to pay the extra 2.9% plus .30 per transaction. I wont be accepting paypal gifts bcause if I get too many of those, paypal gets annoyed and shuts you down unless you become a merchant. I am not a merchant and at the $30 shipped price point lower 48 my buddy that did ALL the work needs to eat.

So if you choose to do the paypal method the cost is $31.17

Thats $30 + 2.9% = 30.87 plus .30 = $31.17


My Paypal address is goldcylon@cox.net

My shipping address is Daryll Fust, 9219 West Avenida Del Sol, Peoria, AZ 85383.

So....



In order of interest (Kind of).

1. GOLDCYLON Mines going to JIM VOTER free since it was his idea
2. PHILLIPSLT5 Will be hand delivered along with a cold one
3. GEEZER (Canada) Paid
4. ZR1North (Canada) Paid
5. GSJOE X 2 Paid
6. CHRISKINZEL Paid
7. CVETTE98PACECAR X2 Not Paid
8. DYNOMITE X4 Paid
9. NELSON007 X2
10. WEGONE Paid by Check no funds received yet

The first order of ten will go to 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and 10. Cliff and Nelson (8&9) will be the first of the next batch.

Jim I will need your address

[QB93Z]

PM sent with my address.

Jim

[ZR1North]

2 PMs sent, Daryll.

Thanks again for doing this.

Bob

[Dynomite]

Daryll......I sent $124.68 to your Paypal for four of the Jumpers.....if the .30 is per transaction......keep the change :D

Send to my CA address....as I just got back earlier today from SD ;)

And....that is a very nice assembly you have there and you proof tested :thumbsup:


http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l498/goldcylon/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/3F1C2BBE-1152-4901-862D-F74241144A08_zps8ib1tulz.jpg

A BIG thanks to Jim Voter for his creativity :handshak:

Ok I will send out the first order of ten on friday. I will accept Cash, Personal Checks or Paypal. If you use Paypal sorry you have to pay the extra 2.9% plus .30 per transaction. I wont be accepting paypal gifts bcause if I get too many of those, paypal gets annoyed and shuts you down unless you become a merchant. I am not a merchant and at the $30 shipped price point my buddy that did ALL the work needs to eat.

So if you choose to do the paypal method the cost is $31.17


The first order of ten will go to 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and 10. Cliff and Nelson (8&9) will be the first of the next batch.

[George Maz]

PayPal sent ($32)
Thank you Daryll for putting this all together.
Thanks to EDRAM454 for alerting me to this solution.

[hiperf406]

Daryll can I get one also, I'll see if `PhillipLT5 will pick it up from you & old it for me till I get down in the Fall. Thank you for spearheading geting these built & to QB93Z for coming up with the bypass design .

lorne #1748
Stock except for Corsa
butchered exhaust.

[PhillipsLT5]

I can pick them both up whenever ready

[GOLDCYLON]

Daryll can I get one also, I'll see if `PhillipLT5 will pick it up from you & old it for me till I get down in the Fall. Thank you for spearheading geting these built & to QB93Z for coming up with the bypass design .

lorne #1748
Stock except for Corsa
butchered exhaust.


Sure it will be when the first run of 25 is out in the mail

[GOLDCYLON]

Ok First batch of 10 done. I pick these up tomorrow after work. The rest of the parts to complete the first run of 25 arrive this Saturday. Then onto the second run.

For those that have already paid and that are in the first run of 10 I should have these out in the mail via the USPS either this Thursday or latest Friday. GC

And the proof is in the pudding so to speak. The first run of ten

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l498/goldcylon/Fuelharness3_zpsqxhkulr5.jpg (http://s1120.photobucket.com/user/goldcylon/media/Fuelharness3_zpsqxhkulr5.jpg.html)

[GOLDCYLON]

PayPal sent ($32)
Thank you Daryll for putting this all together.
Thanks to EDRAM454 for alerting me to this solution.

George I see your payment. You will be in run #2 so it will be a few weeks. Thanks D :cheers:

[GOLDCYLON]

To all the thanks and well wishes and friendly PMs, Thanks

Folks its all about the club and the brotherhood :handshak:

:cheers:

GC

This mod is cooking :dancing

[Andy]

Paid via PayPal
Thanks for spearheading a useful item for the emergency kit.

[HIZNHRZ]

Paid via PayPal

[HAWAIIZR-1]

GC,
I'm tracking payment method and will do so by tomorrow. Traveling but should be able to make the payment. Thanks again!

[hiperf406]

I can pick them both up whenever ready
Thanks Phillip


lorne #1748

[hiperf406]

goldcylon you have money.

lorne #1748

[edram454]

Daryll, I sent $32.00 via paypal to your account for limp home jumper. Thanks for putting it together so quickly. It will save many of us issues later.

ed ramos #3028

[GOLDCYLON]

Ok I will send out the first order of ten on friday. I will accept Cash, Personal Checks or Paypal. If you use Paypal sorry you have to pay the extra 2.9% plus .30 per transaction. I wont be accepting paypal gifts bcause if I get too many of those, paypal gets annoyed and shuts you down unless you become a merchant. I am not a merchant and at the $30 shipped lower 48 price point my buddy that did ALL the work needs to eat.

So if you choose to do the paypal method the cost is $31.17

Thats $30 + 2.9% = 30.87 plus .30 = $31.17


My Paypal address is goldcylon@cox.net

My shipping address is Daryll Fust, 9219 West Avenida Del Sol, Peoria, AZ 85383.

So....



In order of interest (Kind of).

1. GOLDCYLON Mines going to JIM VOTER free since it was his idea
2. PHILLIPSLT5 Will be hand delivered along with a cold one
3. GEEZER (Canada) Paid
4. ZR1North (Canada) Paid
5. GSJOE X 2 Paid
6. CHRISKINZEL Paid
7. CVETTE98PACECAR X2 Not Paid
8. DYNOMITE X4 Paid
9. NELSON007 X2
10. WEGONE Paid by Check no funds received yet

The first order of ten will go to 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and 10. Cliff and Nelson (8&9) will be the first of the next batch.



OK I picked up the first lot of ten.... In the mail tomorrow go's

1. QB93Z
2. PHILLIPSLT5 (Stays at my House)
3. GEEZER
4. ZR1NORTH
5. GSJOE

I have yet to hear from Bob or Chris and I have PMed Both

[GOLDCYLON]

Offical LOT #2 Run of 10

19. ZRSS X2
20. TF95ZR1
21. EDRAM454
22. GEORGE MAZ
23. HIPERF406
24. SCRREM
25. GOLDCYLON
26. 1991ZR1


Only 1 left folks. The total run on this Limp home mod will be total of 35 limp home Units. My buddy has other challenges to work on

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Payment sent via Paypal. Sending PM with mailing address. Thanks again!

[Scrrem]

Offical LOT #2 Run of ?

19. ZRSS X2
20. TF95ZR1
21. EDRAM
22. GEORGE MAZ
23 HIPERF406

Please add me to this list.
Rich

[Mystic ZR-1]

Daryll
Money order's in the snail mail.
Sorry, don't do PayPal...
Thanks!
Doug

[GOLDCYLON]

Please add me to this list.
Rich


Added

[GOLDCYLON]

OK I picked up the first lot of ten.... In the mail tomorrow go's

1. QB93Z
2. PHILLIPSLT5 (Stays at my House)
3. GEEZER
4. ZR1NORTH
5. GSJOE

I have yet to hear from Chris


UPDATE:

QB93Z, GEEZER, ZR1NORTH and GSJOE Shipped today via the USPS. GC

[GOLDCYLON]

Daryll
Money order's in the snail mail.
Sorry, don't do PayPal...
Thanks!
Doug

No Sweat. GC

[1991ZR1]

Please add me to the list.

Myles

[Roadster]

Daryll, just sent PP payment to you from FBodies@AOL.com
and sending a PM........thanks Tom

[GOLDCYLON]

Offical LOT #2 Run of 10

19. ZRSS X2
20. TF95ZR1
21. EDRAM454
22. GEORGE MAZ
23. HIPERF406
24. SCRREM
25. GOLDCYLON
26. 1991ZR1


Only 1 left folks. The total run on this Limp home mod will be total of 35 limp home Units. My buddy has other challenges to work on

One left folks

[lisounds]

i will take it

payment sent

[GOLDCYLON]

Offical LOT #2 Run of 10 CLOSED !

19. ZRSS X2
20. TF95ZR1
21. EDRAM454
22. GEORGE MAZ
23. HIPERF406
24. SCRREM
25. GOLDCYLON
26. 1991ZR1
27. LISOUNDS

Thats it folks 35 Total Limp Home Jumpers

[tf95ZR1]

Check mailed.
Hope I never need/use it.
Thanks to you & Jim!

[cvette98pacecar]

OK I picked up the first lot of ten.... In the mail tomorrow go's

1. QB93Z
2. PHILLIPSLT5 (Stays at my House)
3. GEEZER
4. ZR1NORTH
5. GSJOE

I have yet to hear from Bob or Chris and I have PMed Both

Sorry, Been in meeting all week. Then dinner between 5:30 and whenever we got back to the Hotel.
Paypal sent

Okay, Just realized I ordered two. Second paypal sent as well.

[902066]

Daryll, Check is in the mail. Thanks for doing this for us all. Jim

[ScottZ95ZR1]

Payment sent via Paypal, Daryll.

[GOLDCYLON]

Ok Shipped today. The first Lot of ten are outtaahere

6. CHRISKINZEL
7. CVETTE98PACECAR X2
10. WEGONE

Next lot of parts for the LAST 25 Limp home Jumpers should be arriving this weekend. I will be in LA until next driday for work. Earliest the last 25 will go out is next Saturday or the following week. My buddy has lots of wire cutting and crimping to do.

Thanks. GC

[shorton]

Room for one more order?
Steve Horton

[GOLDCYLON]

Room for one more order?
Steve Horton

Not at this time but I will but you on a standyby list. We did not get the parts in for the last 25 until yesterday vice Last friday via the shipper. So we will entertain nothing further until this last run is done and those orders are fullfilled. GC

[We Gone]

Got mine, added to the travel kit. Thanks again for your help.

[batchman]

Not at this time but I will but you on a standyby list. We did not get the parts in for the last 25 until yesterday vice Last friday via the shipper. So we will entertain nothing further until this last run is done and those orders are fullfilled. GC

That should teach me to not keep up with threads like this!

Please add me to the theoretical next run waiting list. If it wakes up I'd sure appreciate a PM as I don't get here as often as I'd like...

Thanks and regards,
- Jeff

[GOLDCYLON]

That should teach me to not keep up with threads like this!

Please add me to the theoretical next run waiting list. If it wakes up I'd sure appreciate a PM as I don't get here as often as I'd like...

Thanks and regards,
- Jeff

Will Do

[GOLDCYLON]

Ok back from LA and Home. For Communcations puposes I received two personnel Checks and a Money Order while I was away. I will deposit those later today thanks folks.

Check 1. was WEGONE received last week and he has received his Jumper

Checks Received this week

Check 2. Was Ted F and yes I will say hello to Phill for ya

Check 3. Was James Q.

Money Order 1. was D Marshall

Thanks Fellars

[geezer]

Daryll; Jumper received. Your co-ordination of this is much appreciated.

[GOLDCYLON]

Daryll; Jumper received. Your co-ordination of this is much appreciated.

thanks for your support as well.

[Demps]

Payment sent via PayPal.
Ted

[Racinfan83]

I knew I shoulda read this thread earlier dammmit...:mad:
Whenever you do more I want one. Will send $32 via PayPal as soon as you get more. Thanks, Eric

[GOLDCYLON]

I'll add you to the list but priority goes to the last run of 25. My buddy will need a break and supplier apparently need to restock. GC

[robrtr]

Very late seeing this. Please add me to the list if you decide to make another run. Thanks.

Ralph

[JFFerner]

I also am late reading the updates. Please include me for one unit whenever one is available. Thanks.
Jim Ferner

[nelson007]

Made payment through paypal.
Thanks,
Nelson007

[GOLDCYLON]

Update I took a photo last night of the progress on the last 25. We should have these shipped out but the weekend. Monday the latest. GC

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l498/goldcylon/image1_zpsz8sbhmh3.jpeg (http://s1120.photobucket.com/user/goldcylon/media/image1_zpsz8sbhmh3.jpeg.html)

[GOLDCYLON]

Made payment through paypal.
Thanks,
Nelson007


Got it thanks. GC

[jrd1990zr1]

GC,

I'am late reading the post, sorry. Any chance I can get in for one. Can paypal or send check your call.

Thanks, John

[GOLDCYLON]

GC,

I'am late reading the post, sorry. Any chance I can get in for one. Can paypal or send check your call.

Thanks, John

Sorry John not at this time I will add you rname to the list after my buddy decides to make more than 35. GC

[GOLDCYLON]

Shipping Update 34 Shipped or accounted for. 1 not shipped due to no payment received

1. QB93Z Shipped and provided FREE
2. PHILLIPSLT5 Awaiitng pickup
3. GEEZER (Canada) Shipped
4. ZR1North Shipped
5. GSJOE X 2 Shipped
6. CHRISKINZEL Shipped
7. CVETTE98PACECAR X2 Shipped
8. DYNOMITE X4 Shipped
9. NELSON007 X2 Shipped
10. WEGONE Shipped
11. SCOTTZ95ZR-1 x2 Shipped
12. MYSTICZR-1 Shipped
13. DEMPS Shipped
14. ROADSTER Shipped
15. HAWAIIZR-1 Shipped
16. ANDY Shipped
17. HIZNHRZ Shipped
18. 902066 Shipped
19. ZRSS X2 Shipped
20. TF95ZR1 Shipped
21. EDRAM454 Shipped
22. GEORGE MAZ Shipped
23. HIPERF406 Awaiting Phil pickup
24. SCRREM Not Shipped awaiting payment
25. GOLDCYLON No need to ship
26. 1991ZR1 Shipped
27. LISOUNDS Shipped

[GOLDCYLON]

Locking this thread for now ;)

[GOLDCYLON]

Reviving this thread for a micro run. I am not sure if I will do more of these in the future but might if enough interest. I have ten new jumpers for sale.

Slot 4 is reserved until released as I keep getting pm s if anymore will be available. So I have a small run of 10 available this go around. Please include your forum handle with payment if possible. Thanks GC

1. Corvette 95 PAID ! SHIPPED
2. Viper107 PAID ! SHIPPED
3. Driller1 PAID ! Personal Check SHIPPED
4. Joelbvette PAID ! SHIPPED

5. Conesare2seconds PAID ! SHIPPED
6. Zman PAID ! SHIPPED
7. Young1 PAID ! SHIPPED
8. OWWDEE PAID ! SHIPPED
9. Blackred90 PAID ! Personal Check SHIPPED
10. Davidijaxon PAID ! SHIPPED

$46.60 shipped. Overseas or Canada shipping will be higher as this quote is for the US at this time. Or I will accept a postal money order or a personal check (shipped when cleared)

These will be shipped via the USPS in a padded small envelope. GC :cheers:

https://i.imgur.com/Aq60lJa.jpg

[GOLDCYLON]

Conesare2seconds payment received

[PhillipsLT5]

Must have, this works much better than a tow truck, leave it in glove box

[GOLDCYLON]

Must have, this works much better than a tow truck, leave it in glove box

Thanks Phil !

[GOLDCYLON]

Zman payment received. Thanks GC

[Young1]

Add me to list please. PayPal sent.

[GOLDCYLON]

UPDATE

1. Corvette 95 PAID ! SHIPPED
2. Viper107 PAID ! SHIPPED
3. Driller1 PAID ! Personal Check SHIPPED
4. Joelbvette PAID ! SHIPPED

5. Conesare2seconds PAID ! SHIPPED
6. Zman PAID ! SHIPPED
7. Young1 PAID ! SHIPPED
8. OWWDEE PAID ! SHIPPED
9. Blackred90 PAID ! Pesonal Check SHIPPED
10. Davidijaxson PAID ! SHIPPED


This run is closed !

[GOLDCYLON]

Add me to list please. PayPal sent.

Added

[owwdee]

PayPal payment sent. A must have for ZR-1 drivers.

[GOLDCYLON]

PayPal payment sent. A must have for ZR-1 drivers.

Added. Thx

[GOLDCYLON]

Only 3 or perhaps 4 left as Joelbvette has not responded to emails or PMs yet.

My last run of these was 5 years ago.

[GOLDCYLON]

Young1 and OWWDEE shipped today. GC

[GOLDCYLON]

Joelbvette has reached out waiting payment. That leaves only two jumpers left. GC

[GOLDCYLON]

Blackred90 has spot number 9. One jumper left

[davidijaxson]

Just sent payment via paypal on the assumption you still had one left.

[GOLDCYLON]

Just sent payment via paypal on the assumption you still had one left.

Received, you have the final slot. Will ship on Tuesday due to the Federal holiday weekend.

[GOLDCYLON]

This run is closed. :cheers:

[GOLDCYLON]

Davidijaxon and Joelbvette Shipped !

[GOLDCYLON]

Blackred90 your check arrived today.

[GOLDCYLON]

Folks have your jumpers started to arrive yet? just gauging the USPS performance. GC

[conesare2seconds]

Mine arrived yesterday or Thursday. It?s been a busy week, the days blurred. Thanks for making them.

[owwdee]

Yep got it Wed. or Thu. Looks great and thank you!

[Young1]

Have not received yet.

[Corvette95]

Got mine!!! Very well made!!!

[davidijaxson]

I have not received mine yet but will update when I do.

[Young1]

Received mine today. Thank you.

[GOLDCYLON]

Mine arrived yesterday or Thursday. It?s been a busy week, the days blurred. Thanks for making them.

Awesome ! :cheers:

[GOLDCYLON]

Received mine today. Thank you.


Awesome !

[GOLDCYLON]

Got mine!!! Very well made!!!



Great !

[GOLDCYLON]

Yep got it Wed. or Thu. Looks great and thank you!



Outstanding and your welcome !

[GOLDCYLON]

Driller1 Shipped

[davidijaxson]

Received, thanks very much.

[GOLDCYLON]

Received, thanks very much.

Great thanks !

[GOLDCYLON]

Blackred90 Shipped

[ZR1CK]

Both great ideas, I'll be doing that also.
Thanks

[suburbanviking]

Are these still for sale? I could use one.

Thanks,
.....Dan

[QB93Z]

I recently ordered another production run of the jumpers. When I take delivery, I will ship them out. Please send me your shipping address so I can add you to my list.

Jim Voter
jim@gizmosart.com

[mlipmd]

Just saw and read through this thread.
My newly acquired '90 ZR-1 has new fuel pumps, but hey, you never know what comes down the road.
Can you add me to the list when you get more of these?

[sleazy rider]

Just saw and read through this thread.

Can you add me to the list when you get more of these?

i would also like to be added to the list

[tiegsd]

Would like to get one of these as well, please add me to the list.

Emailed you from compeng74@gmail.com.

Thanks in advance!

[QB93Z]

I received the fuel pump jumper connectors from my supplier and will get the packaging and shipping costs figured out soon. I have 20 jumpers and 9 orders right now.

The price of each Jumper is $45 plus shipping.

My email address is: jim@gizmosart.com


tccrab
suburbanviking - need email and shipping address
J. H. - need email address
R. F. - email address rcvd
Craig
D. T. - addresses - rcvd
Mike P - need shipping address
mlipmd - need email and shipping address
sleazy rider - need email and shipping address - rcvd
K.Z. - need shipping address

Please email me your email address and shipping address so I can get your package ready and calculate the shipping.

Jim Voter
195 W Main St
Westminster MD 21157

[sleazy rider]

e-mail sent

[RUSSELL]

P.M. sent

[tccrab]

PM Sent.

[QB93Z]

The Fuel Pump Jumper costs $45 and the packaging and postage will be $5.00.

I will ship after payment is received. I will accept cash, money orders, checks, and credit card (VISA/Mastercard, call me with CC number).

Jim Voter
195 W Main St
Westminster MD 21157
443-244-1347 - cell


Here are the orders I have as of Jun 28th:

tccrab - payment received, jumper mailed
suburbanviking - need email and shipping address
J. H. - OK
R. F. - OK
D. T. - OK
Mike P - need name & shipping address
mlipmd - need name & shipping address
sleazy rider - Mailed
K.Z. - need shipping address
A. G. - OK - Carlisle Pickup
A. L. - payment received, jumper mailed
My email address is: jim@gizmosart.com

Jim

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Craig - need addresses





Mahalo Jim! I sent you an email for the other Z brother in Japan.


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

[mlipmd]

email sent

[AndrewL]

Email sent

[sleazy rider]

sleazy rider - Mailed


received mine yesterday. will go in the car once i receive all my parts back and get it off the rack. thanks! :cheers:

[staminqia]

The Fuel Pump Jumper costs $45 and the packaging and postage will be $5.00.

I will ship after payment is received. I will accept cash, money orders, checks, and credit card (VISA/Mastercard, call me with CC number).

Jim Voter
195 W Main St
Westminster MD 21157
443-244-1347 - cell


Here are the orders I have as of Tuesday evening:

tccrab - OK
suburbanviking - need email and shipping address
J. H. - OK
R. F. - OK
Craig - need addresses
D. T. - OK
Mike P - need name & shipping address
mlipmd - need name & shipping address
sleazy rider - Mailed
K.Z. - need shipping address
A. G. - OK - Carlisle Pickup

My email address is: jim@gizmosart.com

Jim

Thanks Jim, see you at Carlisle!
Anthony G

[fedx95]

Hi Jim, I sent you an Email


1990 ZR1 #1727
Florida

[Jcsws6]

Email sent as well

[tiegsd]

The Fuel Pump Jumper costs $45 and the packaging and postage will be $5.00.

I will ship after payment is received. I will accept cash, money orders, checks, and credit card (VISA/Mastercard, call me with CC number).

Jim Voter
195 W Main St
Westminster MD 21157
443-244-1347 - cell


Here are the orders I have as of Jun 28th:

tccrab - payment received, jumper mailed
suburbanviking - need email and shipping address
J. H. - OK
R. F. - OK
D. T. - OK
Mike P - need name & shipping address
mlipmd - need name & shipping address
sleazy rider - Mailed
K.Z. - need shipping address
A. G. - OK - Carlisle Pickup
A. L. - payment received, jumper mailed
My email address is: jim@gizmosart.com

Jim


Hi Jim,


Would like to get on the list for a jumper, emailed you from compeng74@gmail.com with my info.


Thanks.
Dan

[QB93Z]

I think that I have replied to all the posts and emails. If you want a Jumper and have not heard from me, please contact me again.

Please include your email address as well as your ZR-1 Net Registry Forum Name when you contact me. Thanks

I have more Jumpers in stock.

Jim
443-244-1347

[Subfixer]

Jim, Please bring some of those to Carlisle.
I'll pick one up there.
Thanks,
Paul

[vetteguy48]

Need one. email and pm sent as well. Thanks

Mike

[kz098123]

Sent you an email!


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

[tiegsd]

Got mine in the mail the other day.

Many thanks!

[95 LT5]

I think that I have replied to all the posts and emails. If you want a Jumper and have not heard from me, please contact me again.

Please include your email address as well as your ZR-1 Net Registry Forum Name when you contact me. Thanks

I have more Jumpers in stock.

Jim
443-244-1347

Jim,
Will you have any extras in Carlisle?
I would be interested in 2.
Thank you!

:cheers:

[QB93Z]

Yes, I will bring some Jumpers to Corvettes @ Carlisle.

Jim