FIA World Speed Records

[gbrtng]

Whilst at the NCM, I asked if the 24-hour record holding ZR-1 still held the 5000 mile record. Nope. The VW also owns that distance in addition to the 24 hours:

http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/basicpage/file/World%20Records.pdf

Oh well ...

[PhillipsLT5]

I do not think that car was sold to public like ZR-1?

[A1990]

The FIA world records are "run what ya brung"

[Dime]

I find solace in the fact that it's not a production car.

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Yeah but would you rather have a VW? Me neither...lol

[XfireZ51]

:thumbsup::thumbsup:Yeah but would you rather have a VW? Me neither...lol

[ZR-1 Franz]

Hello from Switzerland,
Let's see the facts! The VW Nardo was purpose built, a prototype, in some way a test mule! If the Germans would not have been successful they would
have said that it was just a test drive. After their success they hammered
down the ZR-1 as a loser in their car magazines.
But, if the Germans had to take a nearly stock BMW, Mercedes,
Porsche or Audi they would have failed!
(Sorry, but I have to mention it:I do not like German cars!!)
This is the reason why I am still very proud to own a ZR-1, because
a ZR-1 was able to do something, that no German or any European
nearly stock car was able to do!!!!! :flag2:



Franz

[gbrtng]

Hello from Switzerland,
Let's see the facts! The VW Nardo was purpose built, a prototype, in some way a test mule! If the Germans would not have been successful they would
have said that it was just a test drive. After their success they hammered
down the ZR-1 as a loser in their car magazines.
But, if the Germans had to take a nearly stock BMW, Mercedes,
Porsche or Audi they would have failed!
(Sorry, but I have to mention it:I do not like German cars!!)
This is the reason why I am still very proud to own a ZR-1, because
a ZR-1 was able to do something, that no German or any European
nearly stock car was able to do!!!!! :flag2:



Franz
Hammered down the ZR-1 did they? That's worse than Reeves Callaway calling the ZR-1 an overweight pig.

and the rest is :censored:

[XfireZ51]

Is that why Reeves didn't show for the 25th? BTW, have u seen Reeves lately?

[ZR-1 Franz]

"Hammered down the ZR-1 did they?"

Yes they did, because not many people here in Europe, people who think that only
the Europeans are able to build fast sports cars, liked the idea that a Corvette
realised these world records!

Franz

[Dime]

They may dislike it all they want. The FACT is that the ZR-1 is a production car. Not a prototype concept car.

It's one thing to make a prototype that performs. It's a another thing completely to produce it.

Apples to oranges.

[gbrtng]

Is that why Reeves didn't show for the 25th? BTW, have u seen Reeves lately?

I find it unlikely he would show up after making the following statement:


From an interview with Reeves Callaway by John Nelson in "Vette" (magazine) dated July 2002, pages 45 and 46
entitled "Reeves Callaway - The Ultimate Insider's Look at the 1978-91 Twin Turbo Corvette Program"

RC: "The ZR-1 program was way over budget and way behind schedule. This was 1986-1/2. But they wanted the
high-tech image, and they went to Lotus, which was a huge mistake. Lotuses, uh, Loti, have released unto the automotive
community some of the biggest disasters of engine design of all time. And the ZR-1 was certainly one of those.
Talk about an overweight, underperforming pig. The ZR-1 is a nightmare of complexity for very little performance."

VETTE: (stunned silence)

Form your own opinion - he took lots of money doing body kits and engine upgrades for the ZR-1 anyhow ...

still :censored:

[mgbrv8]

Cool car but I cant seem to find a registry for it :dancing

Dave

[XfireZ51]

Reeves Callaway: " Talk about an overweight, underperforming pig".
As I said, have you seen Reeves Callaway recently?

[efnfast]

Cool car but I cant seem to find a registry for it :dancing

Dave
Is that the car that took the prize away from the ZR-1? When did that happen? I know when we got it, but not when we lost it.

[Kevin]

I find it unlikely he would show up after making the following statement:


From an interview with Reeves Callaway by John Nelson in "Vette" (magazine) dated July 2002, pages 45 and 46
entitled "Reeves Callaway - The Ultimate Insider's Look at the 1978-91 Twin Turbo Corvette Program"

RC: "The ZR-1 program was way over budget and way behind schedule. This was 1986-1/2. But they wanted the
high-tech image, and they went to Lotus, which was a huge mistake. Lotuses, uh, Loti, have released unto the automotive
community some of the biggest disasters of engine design of all time. And the ZR-1 was certainly one of those.
Talk about an overweight, underperforming pig. The ZR-1 is a nightmare of complexity for very little performance."

VETTE: (stunned silence)

Form your own opinion - he took lots of money doing body kits and engine upgrades for the ZR-1 anyhow ...

still :censored:
according to the callaway guys he was misquoted

[mgbrv8]

Is that the car that took the prize away from the ZR-1? When did that happen? I know when we got it, but not when we lost it.

Nardo its VWs test track

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nard%C3%B2_Ring

[ZR-1 Franz]

Nardo is a town in Italy and so is called the test track there.
It is a huge circle and the track is high banked and there are safety
rails. It is, compared to Fort Stockton, rather easy to drive fast there
because it is a constant "curve". The track was built and owned by
Fiat, I believe in 1975. Since 2014 it belongs to the Germans (Porsche).
I would like to see how the Europeans would manage Fort Stockton!
They would not like it and their cars wouldn't either!
Lotus: I think it was never a strategy at Lotus to build anything
heavier than they had to. Their sports cars were lightweights and
Colin Chapman wanted to have his Formula one cars as light as
possible.

Franz

[XfireZ51]

according to the callaway guys he was misquoted

I have heard he has a hard-** that GM cancelled the B2K program for the LT-5.

[LGAFF]

The ZR-1 still holds a class record the last I checked(a few years ago)....check the FIA website.

[LGAFF]

Not sure Reeves has a beef with GM, they did a 25th anniv B2K option a few years ago. I do know my interaction with Reeves was very positive,he went out of his way to go over my cars history with me(he offered to do this as we were chatting at BG)...I will also add he was very kind to my daughter who has severe Autism, nice guy!

[gbrtng]

Reeves Callaway: " Talk about an overweight, underperforming pig".
As I said, have you seen Reeves Callaway recently?
I have attended more than half of the NCM gatherings beginning in 1995 and never saw the man. Of course, that does not mean he wasn't there ... it's hard to prove a negative.

[A1990]

I have attended more than half of the NCM gatherings beginning in 1995 and never saw the man. Of course, that does not mean he wasn't there ... it's hard to prove a negative.

Reeves was at the 2007 Gathering. Many Callaway's were there too including two Speedsters. He was invited to the 2015 Gathering but had a previous commitment.

[grahambehan]

according to the callaway guys he was misquoted

They have always been good at "revisionist" history.

Graham

[GOLDCYLON]

Cool car but I cant seem to find a registry for it :dancing

Dave


:-D:cheers: Me either ;)