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Bolling
01-30-2015, 03:59 PM
I am trying to figure which aftermarket exhaust system I have. The four tips are up against the car pretty tight so I can't read anything. When you look inside the tips a few inches in is a square cutout. They are polished to the cats. Thanks

Z06scentair
01-30-2015, 04:58 PM
Post pictures and someone will chime in quickly.

We Gone
01-30-2015, 06:44 PM
Sounds like an early Borla set up.

-=Jeff=-
01-30-2015, 10:20 PM
this is the Borla system I had.. tips look like these:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kjz1V4EmK9Q/TBV95dowtHI/AAAAAAAAA1U/X__w3g8h22c/s720/DSC_0053.JPG

XfireZ51
01-30-2015, 10:40 PM
If tips are crooked, then it's a Borla. :-D

Bolling
01-31-2015, 07:25 PM
Post pictures and someone will chime in quickly.

Here are a couple of pics

-=Jeff=-
01-31-2015, 07:36 PM
B&B is what you have

Bolling
01-31-2015, 07:45 PM
B&B is what you have

Thanks to all for the help. I looked them up at the B B site and that's exactly what they are.

XfireZ51
01-31-2015, 10:22 PM
Love the look of B+B. Question is what generation are they?

Bolling
01-31-2015, 10:34 PM
Love the look of B+B. Question is what generation are they?

How do I tell and what are the differences? I have read where they drone quite a bit but these do not seem to drone. You can hear them at 60 or 70 but it's not a drone. I had a C6 vette with NPP and they would drone in the open position at driving speeds so I always closed them on the highway.

XfireZ51
01-31-2015, 11:33 PM
How do I tell and what are the differences? I have read where they drone quite a bit but these do not seem to drone. You can hear them at 60 or 70 but it's not a drone. I had a C6 vette with NPP and they would drone in the open position at driving speeds so I always closed them on the highway.

I have NPP on my ZR.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/ROZA%20NERO/th_C6EBA4A0-CEBC-4F2A-968E-5A1A08B79808_zpsp2t5gnbi.mp4 (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/ROZA%20NERO/C6EBA4A0-CEBC-4F2A-968E-5A1A08B79808_zpsp2t5gnbi.mp4)

Bolling
02-01-2015, 05:49 AM
I have NPP on my ZR.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/ROZA%20NERO/th_C6EBA4A0-CEBC-4F2A-968E-5A1A08B79808_zpsp2t5gnbi.mp4 (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/ROZA%20NERO/C6EBA4A0-CEBC-4F2A-968E-5A1A08B79808_zpsp2t5gnbi.mp4)

That is really cool, that's the main thing I miss from the C6.

XfireZ51
02-01-2015, 09:13 AM
That is really cool, that's the main thing I miss from the C6.

It's an FBI innovation. mike100 has added his own little spin on it w rpm and manifold pressure control. I'm using a console mounted On/Off switch.

Bolling
02-01-2015, 11:04 AM
It's an FBI innovation. mike100 has added his own little spin on it w rpm and manifold pressure control. I'm using a console mounted On/Off switch.

Are you using Z06 mufflers, tell me a little more about the set up.

-=Jeff=-
02-01-2015, 11:21 AM
I will let Dom explain his set-up but most the guys here have the NPP Valves with slightly different pieces:

One guy has a B&B with a Stainless Works X-pipe and NPP With B&B Mufflers/tips..

Another is B&B 3" pipes, Custom resonator/ X-pipe with Dynomax mufflers with NPP and Z06 tips

Now I know most search out the Z06 muffflers and use the tips/valves, but I have seen the valves on eBay for about $100 each

I am the black sheep of the FBI group.. motor is still mostly stock and I am using Corsa. I have no drone at all.

Now, drone is very subject and depends on the person. Dom's car still has some drone ( to my ears) but not nearly as bad as without the NPP Valves. My ears are quite sensitive (genetics unfortunately) so for me the Corsa fits the bill and I think if you heard Dom's or any of the others here it would help you decide if that is the way you want to go

XfireZ51
02-01-2015, 11:22 AM
Are you using Z06 mufflers, tell me a little more about the set up.

What's done is to graft the Z06 NPP tips to a dual outlet muffler. Some have used B+B mufflers. ALZR1 does the cutting and welding at Brakes Plus. Some others, like myself and BobG's 427 have used DynoMax UltraFlow muffs because they are true 3" inlet muffs. The vacuum is supplied from the plenum through the stock charcoal canister hose system running down the passenger side to the right rear corner. I have a check valve and solenoid in line to control vacuum flow.

Edit: as Jeff said, my system is made up of Watson 1 7/8" headers, Stainless Works Xpipe,
using 3" SS pipe and dumping into the aforementioned mufflers. I typically ride around w the valves closed. I flip a switch to open them up for performance reasons.

Bolling
02-01-2015, 02:10 PM
What's done is to graft the Z06 NPP tips to a dual outlet muffler. Some have used B+B mufflers. ALZR1 does the cutting and welding at Brakes Plus. Some others, like myself and BobG's 427 have used DynoMax UltraFlow muffs because they are true 3" inlet muffs. The vacuum is supplied from the plenum through the stock charcoal canister hose system running down the passenger side to the right rear corner. I have a check valve and solenoid in line to control vacuum flow.

Edit: as Jeff said, my system is made up of Watson 1 7/8" headers, Stainless Works Xpipe,
using 3" SS pipe and dumping into the aforementioned mufflers. I typically ride around w the valves closed. I flip a switch to open them up for performance reasons.

That us really neat. I already have the B&B 3" so now I just need to find some tips.

mike100
02-01-2015, 05:19 PM
My first time around with this modification, I used C6 muffler parts -the entire tip and vacuum actuated exhaust flapper.

If I ever do another one, I would try to get the same type of valve used on newer BMW's. Quite a few models have them now. They are a better valve since they don't rattle. A lot of the used C6 NPP mufflers you find for sale are warranty repaired C6 units that were swapped out at the dealership due to noise (so buyer beware). Also don't forget the entire exhaust systems expands when it gets up to operating temp so make sure to leave room for that. mounting the valve to the side is the safest bet.

Top Toy
02-08-2015, 07:13 PM
In a few weeks I will have a set of B&B Fusion (dual mode) mufflers complete with solenoid valve and key fob wireless remote available for sale. One of the mufflers has an internal rattle that could be fixed by someone with access to a good TIG welder. The other muffler has been cut around the back face in an attempt to find a rattle in it. (And, no, it's not the valves rattling.) The tips are traditional B&B oblong shape but double wall, sharp trailing edge. Everything is polished. Very sharp looking! If someone is interested in either repairing the mufflers or using the tips, valves, wireless set-up, let me know and I'll send pics and a price. Switching to Stainless Works Turbo S-Tube mufflers.

XfireZ51
02-08-2015, 08:21 PM
Dennis,

U coming to BG this year?

Top Toy
02-08-2015, 09:27 PM
Would love to but haven't committed yet. Will be a longer trek this year since I've moved to eastern PA. Have to decide soon, though!

XfireZ51
02-08-2015, 10:05 PM
Would love to but haven't committed yet. Will be a longer trek this year since I've moved to eastern PA. Have to decide soon, though!

Well if there was a year to come, this is it!