Just a Thought (Group Buy)

[Pete]

Can we try getting a group buy on this would be great to get 30% discount.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-1996-Carbon-Fiber-For-Chevrolet-Corvette-C4-Gt-Concept-Hood-Kit-Auto-Body-/301406416022?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item462d38ec96&vxp=mtr

I was nice all year so i told Santa.
It's on my Christmas list

Pete

[USAZR1]

The guy that is actually fabricating those hoods is a member on the CF site. He has been building custom body parts for quite awhile and is well regarded.

[Pete]

Does anybody know how much this Carbon Fiber hood weighs and what does the stock hood weigh.

Pete

[c4koh]

Seconding Pete's question...

[Karl]

Edit: It saves 24 lbs. See the below thread. Stock is 79lbs. and carbon fiber 55 lbs.

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c4-general-discussion/3457003-carbon-fiber-hood-came-today-2.html

[cvette98pacecar]

Pete, I will give him a call tomorrow.

[RICKYRJ1]

Jeff and I were following the build process on this hood. It came to a dead stop when the 1st one made fit like crap. The guy was trying to get a donor car to get another made for proper fitment but could not find any volunteers that were local to him. Maybe Robert can help in moving it forward (would be great) There is a long thread on it on the CF. Go get em Robert :saluting:

[Hog]

Edit: It saves 24 lbs. See the below thread. Stock is 79lbs. and carbon fiber 55 lbs.

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c4-general-discussion/3457003-carbon-fiber-hood-came-today-2.html

According to this site which is advertising a carbon fiber hood, the carbon hood weighs only 21 lbs, which is 48 lbs lighter than the stock C4 hood. By deduction the stock C4 hoods weigh 69 lbs.

http://www.blackdogspeedshop.com/product/c4-corvette-carbon-fiber-hood-with-inner-frame/
C4 Corvette Carbon Fiber Hood With Inner Frame
From: $3,250


Weighing only 21 pounds, our Blackdog Carbon Fiber hood is an incredible 48 pounds lighter than the stock fiberglass hood. Made in America from aircraft grade carbon fiber, you’ll find out hoods to be of the highest quality available on the market today. Manufactured using the same process as our race components, you can rest assured that your investment in quality will look great and function well for years to come.


Mounts to Stock Hinges
Aircraft Grade Carbon Fiber Construction
Weighs only 21 Pounds
48 LBS Lighter Than Stock!
Made in the USA

[Pete]

Pete, I will give him a call tomorrow.


Rob i wanted this to save weight i heard/read carbon fiber and thougt here is an easy 50lb diet but don't think this is worth the $$$ to weight savings.

Rob you can save 20 lbs, just leave your wallet home.:)

Toledo Hoods are 20+ lbs lighter then stock cost less, i also hear they can make whatever your/our needs and make them lighter.

Maybe call ToledoPro for a group buy.

I would want a stock looking hood and at least 40lbs savings

Pete

[RICKYRJ1]

The hood on CF was only to cost $1-$1500

[cvette98pacecar]

Rob i wanted this to save weight i heard/read carbon fiber and thougt here is an easy 50lb diet but don't think this is worth the $$$ to weight savings.

Rob you can save 20 lbs, just leave your wallet home.:)

Toledo Hoods are 20+ lbs lighter then stock cost less, i also hear they can make whatever your/our needs and make them lighter.

Maybe call ToledoPro for a group buy.

I would want a stock looking hood and at least 40lbs savings

Pete

I will call Toledo pro and see if they want to do a group buy as well.

[diamond zr1]

If some of us got off the pumpkin pie and ice cream,after turkey day would not take long to lose 40 lb.s probably fit in the seat better too

[cvette98pacecar]

Pete you asked for a group buy so here you go. We would have to get him a hood to use in Las Vegas.
If we are going to do this as a group buy I would suggest the Toledo pro hood.


Carbonfiberhood , custom made from new mold

Hoods will shrink from original donor part on average 1-2mm each side so if the donor part has gap this will have more gap.

Corvette C4 Carbon fiber = $1200each

5 required to buy at once.

Turn around 3-4 months.

[Pete]

Pete you asked for a group buy so here you go. We would have to get him a hood to use in Las Vegas.
If we are going to do this as a group buy I would suggest the Toledo pro hood.


Carbonfiberhood , custom made from new mold

Hoods will shrink from original donor part on average 1-2mm each side so if the donor part has gap this will have more gap.

Corvette C4 Carbon fiber = $1200each

5 required to buy at once.

Turn around 3-4 months.

Thanks Rob,you are awesome.
That is a killer price.
Like i mentioned in my previous post after finding out it only saves 20 something lbs just not worth the price.

If it shaved 50 lbs i would be all over it.

Pete

[-=Jeff=-]

Also Toledo Pro no longer makes C4 hoods. They sold that part of the business to ACI

[cvette98pacecar]

Thanks Rob,you are awesome.
That is a killer price.
Like i mentioned in my previous post after finding out it only saves 20 something lbs just not worth the price.

If it shaved 50 lbs i would be all over it.

Pete

Pete, You are looking at around 60# total.

Also Toledo Pro no longer makes C4 hoods. They sold that part of the business to ACI

Jeff, I knew that a couple of months ago, I am waiting on Brett from ACI to call me back.

[Locobob]

The Blackdog hood has come down a lot in price I see, still not cheap by any means but I'm guessing the quality on this piece is very good. I am very interested in a lightweight factory style hood.

[Pete]

Pete, You are looking at around 60# total.



Rob,i read on the other forum it only shaves 20 lbs.
The 60 lb lighter hood is this something new or are we confusing the total weight of the hood they make (60 lbs) since the OE hoods weigh 80lbs for a 20 lb savings.

Don't we have any Vegas members?
Pete

[XfireZ51]

Rob,i read on the other forum it only shaves 20 lbs.
The 60 lb lighter hood is this something new or are we confusing the total weight of the hood they make (60 lbs) since the OE hoods weigh 80lbs for a 20 lb savings.

Don't we have any Vegas members?
Pete

Pete,

I always thought you would never be awake before 11am?

[Karl]

Pete,

I always thought you would never be awake before 11am?




That's funny. I think I started getting Pete up early with my 8 a.m. "Pete i'm on my way" wake up calls!

[-=Jeff=-]

Pete,

I always thought you would never be awake before 11am?

Dom,

He has not gone to sleep yet.. so technically.....:p

[XfireZ51]

Dom,

He has not gone to sleep yet.. so technically.....:p

Anytime I walk in on him before 11am, he's hanging upside down from the rafters of his garage.

[ALZR1]

Anytime I walk in on him before 11am, he's hanging upside down from the rafters of his garage.


That's Pete's daily ritual.


AL.

[RICKYRJ1]

Am I understanding correctly? Blackdog might make these? Are the hoods going to have vents & a higher center rise like Pete's original post? I could forego the vents but would prefer a higher rise. Thanks for your effort Robert :cheers:

[XfireZ51]

That's Pete's daily ritual.


AL.

Back problems?

[-=Jeff=-]

Am I understanding correctly? Blackdog might make these? Are the hoods going to have vents & a higher center rise like Pete's original post? I could forego the vents but would prefer a higher rise. Thanks for your effort Robert :cheers:

Blackdog hoods are an oem Copy in Carbon Fiber

[Pete]

You guys are too funny.
It was what Jeff said working late nights into the morning and then get kids off to school.

LMAO Dom, Al was refferring to Bats for the nightly ritual.

I really like the Blackdog Hood just the way i want it stock/sleeper look saves 50lbs price is a bit much i'd have to sell a kidney. :)

Kidney for sale slightly used still works.:dancing
Pete

[diamond zr1]

I am going to make a New Years resolution to loose 20 lbs by May for Bowling Green/probably make my wife and doctor happy too/don't think I want to loose 50/don't know what a kidney weighs/

[cvette98pacecar]

Blackdog hoods are an oem Copy in Carbon Fiber

Let me call Black dog and see if I can get them to sponsor the registry and give us a hefty discount.

[Pete]

Let me call Black dog and see if I can get them to sponsor the registry and give us a hefty discount.


Rob,call these guys price is lower to start with.

http://emracingcorp.com/scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=54

Look at the link.

Pete

[cvette98pacecar]

Rob,call these guys price is lower to start with.

http://emracingcorp.com/scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=54

Look at the link.

Pete

Will do. I am thinking the race only hood is lighter.

http://emracingcorp.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=478

[Pete]

Will do. I am thinking the race only hood is lighter.

http://emracingcorp.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=478


Yeah, but then no headlight mounts.

Pete

[cvette98pacecar]

Yeah, but then no headlight mounts.

Pete

Ah, that wont work.

[Pete]

It's between the carbon fiber or this light weight fiberglass.

http://emracingcorp.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=480

http://emracingcorp.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=477


Pete

[cvette98pacecar]

It's between the carbon fiber or this light weight fiberglass.

http://emracingcorp.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=480

http://emracingcorp.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=477


Pete

I talked with Merrill, He is now a certified vendor for the ZR-1 Net Registry. Head over to the membership section to see the discounts.

[Bob Eyres]

Something's wrong here. Toledo Pro used to advertise their fiberglass hood as saving more than 20 lbs. What's the deal? Plus, how can they offer CF at the same price as an old Toledo Pro fiberglass hood?

IMHO, a ZR-1 specific hood should have some design mods.
The LT5 runs much better when cooler, so the vents, (with some water drain provision), are a great idea.

A slight rise to clear the engine, (like the active suspension ZR-1, not the Toledo Pro 3" "Race" hood), would be effective too. My motor, with 1/4" resin plenum plates, is actually vibrating against the hood. That's less than ideal.

So, why not design one like GM "shoulda done" back in the day. Not just for weight, but for more effective air flow, to solve clearance issues, and to set the ZR-1 noticeably apart from the regular C4.
If it had all those factors, and a good fit, I'd be a buyer.

+ who's going to be the guinea pig to see if it actually fits? 20 or more sloppy, ill fitting hoods would be an aggravating group buy.

[Bob Eyres]

A pic of that GM ZR-1 specific hood:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3945&stc=1&d=1417955215

My favorite C4 ZR-1 hood. It clears the big engine, but no massive rise to interfere with sight lines.

[Pete]

I talked with Merrill, He is now a certified vendor for the ZR-1 Net Registry. Head over to the membership section to see the discounts./


Rob,where in the membership i spend 15 minutes looking for it i couldn't find it.

Why so confusing we have venders,merchandise,sponsers,marketplace,parts,reg istry store, zr1 store LT5 store,specialty parts, specialty vendors,ZR-1 merchandise, special offers,holy cow.

How about just ZR-1 Store and ZR-1 Parts
You know the old KISS.

Post a link or PM it to me.

Pete

[cvette98pacecar]

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Rob,where in the membership i spend 15 minutes looking for it i couldn't find it.

Why so confusing we have venders,merchandise,sponsers,marketplace,parts,reg istry store, zr1 store LT5 store,specialty parts, specialty vendors,ZR-1 merchandise, special offers,holy cow.

How about just ZR-1 Store and ZR-1 Parts
You know the old KISS.

Post a link or PM it to me.

Pete

That is my next task, Deciphering between Vendors, Sponsors and Advertisers.

http://zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24363