LED foglight replacements

[GOLDCYLON]

Once in a while I happen upon a good thread on Corvette Forum.

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c4-general-discussion/3554463-just-a-possible-safety-issue.html

The OP mentioned using LED bulbs in his fog lights and I was happy with the pictures he posted up. As I already have HID headlights I didnt want a HID foglight solution. The OP posted up the place where he bought his bulbs but I thought the cost was way too much.... so after some online research... I found the same LED bulbs for 1/2 of the cost that he paid. So I installed them. I am impressed and I like the removal of the yellowish hue that the original bulbs put out. These are cleaner andnbrighter and I am very satifised but the proof is in the pudding so here are my images I took this morning


http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l498/goldcylon/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-11/5DADBD26-B4D5-4D86-B27D-22DEB4929A27_zps9hkoiurx.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l498/goldcylon/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-11/B652C552-2B39-49A2-8F76-3E8F47F7311C_zpsfvrbskti.jpg

Here is where I bought the bulbs off of Ebay. In this ad they come in pairs so half off of what the OP had paid on Corvette Forum. Bleeding Edge Forum Mod signing off. Your mileage may vary. GC

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171494679570?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[-=Jeff=-]

that link is an ended auction and the relisted item if NLA

what specific brand are the ones you bought?

I would like to try these...

[GOLDCYLON]

that link is an ended auction and the relisted item if NLA

what specific brand are the ones you bought?

I would like to try these...


I dont remember seeing a brand -=JEFF=- I think they are generic however , by using the same title in Ebay Search led me to these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-HID-Xenon-White-68-SMD-881-886-894-898-862-LED-Fog-Driving-Lights-Lamps-Bulbs-/170893590452?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27ca0d3fb4&vxp=mtr

[PhillipsLT5]

need to change socket or wiring or fuse?

[GOLDCYLON]

Nope. drop in replacement :cheers:

[efnfast]

Are our fogs H11's?

[-=Jeff=-]

880 or 896 depending on year

[XfireZ51]

So no ballasts or anything. I love progress. Have HIDs already. Oh well.

[Mystic ZR-1]

Any difference on the road compared to the useless stock lights?

[-=Jeff=-]

I think they might be brighter, but I bet the reflector in stock is holding them back

[GOLDCYLON]

So no ballasts or anything. I love progress. Have HIDs already. Oh well.

Nope just drop In bulbs

[GOLDCYLON]

Any difference on the road compared to the useless stock lights?

I think so

[GOLDCYLON]

that link is an ended auction and the relisted item if NLA

what specific brand are the ones you bought?

I would like to try these...

-=JEFF=- as suspected no mfr data on the bulbs. Let's face it we all know where these come from. GC

[PhillipsLT5]

Nope. drop in replacement :cheers:

What time should I be over for drop in?
LOL

[PhillipsLT5]

I think so

Now with all high tech these lights GC can see all the way to Flagstaff

[edram454]

I dont remember seeing a brand -=JEFF=- I think they are generic however , by using the same title in Ebay Search led me to these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-HID-Xenon-White-68-SMD-881-886-894-898-862-LED-Fog-Driving-Lights-Lamps-Bulbs-/170893590452?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27ca0d3fb4&vxp=mtr

the ebay add said it is not compatible with 1990-1995 corvette zr1. why would they say that when the part works for goldcylon?? I have hid foglights and have not installed them. I like the fact that these drop in. I know the led foglights are so powerful that some guys use them as there regular lights at night. guess I should just install the hid's I already have in the boxes.

ed ramos #3028

[GOLDCYLON]

Now with all high tech these lights GC can see all the way to Flagstaff

After the move I will do it for you lol

[-=Jeff=-]

the ebay add said it is not compatible with 1990-1995 corvette zr1. why would they say that when the part works for goldcylon?? I have hid foglights and have not installed them. I like the fact that these drop in. I know the led foglights are so powerful that some guys use them as there regular lights at night. guess I should just install the hid's I already have in the boxes.

ed ramos #3028

Cause the OEM 896 was a lower wattage than the 886 in the eBay link

They will work


**Meaning wattage difference with filament bulbs.. LED are lower power so brighter light with less wattage

[GOLDCYLON]

the ebay add said it is not compatible with 1990-1995 corvette zr1. why would they say that when the part works for goldcylon?? I have hid foglights and have not installed them. I like the fact that these drop in. I know the led foglights are so powerful that some guys use them as there regular lights at night. guess I should just install the hid's I already have in the boxes.

ed ramos #3028

For same reason everything from a tailgate to a chrome bumper is compatible with the ZR-1 lol. Honesty how many L98 water pumps and optisparks and all other sort of items either will or will not fit. Lol. That's why I tested em. They work great no ballasts involved etc. I'm getting tired of the EBAY car ads as well for MY 90 - 91 sale ads that also add in seat heaters and side impact airbags as standard equipment.

[GOLDCYLON]

Now with all high tech these lights GC can see all the way to Flagstaff

I just hope to be seen lol to avoid the oh I didn't see YA type of events

[WARP TEN]

They look good. I ordered a pair to try. --Bob

[efnfast]

As luck would have it, my mother asked me what I wanted for christmas.

[BigJohn]

Another Black ZR-1???

[efnfast]

Good thinking Big John, why didn't I think of that?

[edram454]

Another Black ZR-1???



well of course. cant ever have enough of the black ones.




ed ramos #3028:dancing

[Fully Vetted]

I'd like to know how they made an HID application without the need for a ballast.

[efnfast]

I'm not sure you would consider these LED's HID's.

[Fully Vetted]

My bad. I must've misread. I thought he said these were HID's.

[Fully Vetted]

Actually, he did.

GC, did you not say "I found the same HID's at half the cost so I installed them".

They are LEDS not HIDS I corrected the post. HIDS will not work without a ballast

[8cam]

Are the fogs in the 91+ cars that different? My fog lights are really good, use them all the time for exactly the intended purpose - morning fog. They are bright, and cast a very wide, low pattern that works very well on my morning commute.

[-=Jeff=-]

yes, lenses and reflectors changed in 1991..

[8cam]

I know that. What I'm asking is, are the newer style lights worse than the 90s? Because my 90 style fogs perform quite well.

[-=Jeff=-]

I know that. What I'm asking is, are the newer style lights worse than the 90s? Because my 90 style fogs perform quite well.

Yes I would believe so due to that design change, also I think there was a wattage difference on OEM bulbs, but don't recall

[GOLDCYLON]

Actually, he did.

GC, did you not say "I found the same HID's at half the cost so I installed them".

They are LEDS not HIDS I corrected the post. HIDS will not work without a ballast


I edited the posted as I swapped LED and HID in one place on the post however, the title was LED foglight replacements. Sorry for that moment of confusion

To date there are no HID non ballast applications... however something tells me me somebody is working on it. I was not impressed with these in the daytime until I put them in the reflector housings and saw how clean they looked and performed in the dark.. way better on my 91.

[secondchance]

Nope. drop in replacement :cheers:

Daryl,

May I as how the light pattern is? Close approximation as generated with OEM halogen?

[GOLDCYLON]

Daryl,

May I as how the light pattern is? Close approximation as generated with OEM halogen?

I think it's the same as the stock reflector is maintained but the source bulb is now a brighter whiter hue. GC

[efnfast]

Anybody have the oem bulb number for the fogs in a 90?

[-=Jeff=-]

Original GM #: 9441728

it is also 880 (for replacements)

[efnfast]

Original GM #: 9441728

it is also 880 (for replacements)

Thanks Jeff, that's what I was looking for . The replacement number. -Steve

[ZR1North]

I am updating this very useful thread with my experience to date with exterior and interior LED replacement. I haven't tackled the foglights or headlights yet, but I thought I'd update this thread rather than start a new one since it is difficult to find info on LED conversions.

I have replaced most of my interior (non dash) lights with LED assys from SuperBright LEDs. The vast majority of their replacement LEDs assys are indeed plug-and-play, are excellent fits and the difference in brightness is astounding (I used cool white for all interior lamps). The only issue is with the replacements for the two mirror (map reading) lamps; the suggested replacements were too large for the holes in the mirror where the standard 168 bulbs are fitted from the factory. I am awaiting their response for a fix. Thus far, their tech support has been excellent as is their web site for helping with decision making.

As for the exterior, I used CorvetteHID.com for the tail lamp/brake light replacements (C4LEDTAILSTAND2) last year. Like SuperBright, CorvetteHID was excellent to deal with and the products are high quality. I had to replace the signal light flasher with an electronic flasher (c/w ground) to make the rear tail/signal LEDs work, but I did NOT have to replace the four-way flasher - UNTIL I converted the front park/signal bulbs to LEDs this past week. The signal lights continued to work ok with LEDs at all four corners, but the four-way emergency flashers were rendered inoperable with the recent change to the front park/signal lights. I will change out the four-way hazard flasher with an electronic unit next week, and I expect that will resolve the four-way emergency flasher issue. As for the other external bulbs, they were pretty much plug-and-play with the SuperBright replacements, except for the 1156s in the front corner (white light illuminated when the key and park/headlights are on along with the turn signals). I used my dremel tool to "trim" the 1156 sockets to accommodate the 1156 LED replacement. I notified SuperBright of the issue this evening and am awaiting their response before tackling the other 1156 replacements (backup lights and rear corner white lights ,which also illuminate on backup); I had to remove a lot of plastic in the sockets, so I don't intend to "dremel" the other four 1156 sockets at the rear.

Finally, I converted the CHMSL (3rd brake light) to LED using "=Jeff=" suggestion to use a 2005-2007 Chevy Uplander unit as the base (largely because the Uplander assy has essentially the same height as the ZR-1 CHMSL assy). You have do some mechanical work (cut - shorten- the Uplander LED strip and clear lens, and reattach the clear lens to the LED strip), and you have to do some rewiring due to the mechanical changes, but it fits very snugly into the CHMSL housing and looks great (Jeff has pictures of his conversion on this site). It's also a snap to change it back to original if one should decide to do so at any point.

The changes in brilliance and longevity of the LEDs are definitely worth the effort but it takes research, time and effort, so others' experiences will be helpful to those that follow as well as those of us requiring another few yards to get the 1st down.

Cheers

[-=Jeff=-]

FYI, last I saw CorvetteHID is no more

[GOLDCYLON]

FYI, last I saw CorvetteHID is no more

Well the website is down but I still have the POC email info. Bummer another C4 vendor gone

[Billy Mild]

I replaced my front foglights with this bulb kit from superbrightleds, https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/led-vehicle-replacement-bulbs/led-headlight-kit-881-led-headlight-bulbs-conversion-kit-with-flexible-tinned-copper-braid/2211/5006/

These bulbs seem a little brigher than stock, but much bluer light. I wish they would have been bright white like a 4300k color or a 3000k color for real foglights.

I will be replacing my current headlights with Genssi LED headlights kits.

What is everyone using for the front cornering lights?

[Vette73]

I picked up some LED fog lights ( daytime running lights) and for the life of me how do I get the original bulbs out? Anybody?

[Scrrem]

I picked up some LED fog lights ( daytime running lights) and for the life of me how do I get the original bulbs out? Anybody?

The socket is down below the air filter housing on my 90. You should be able to feel a round socket with a blade of plastic in the middle of the socket. You give that blade a quarter turn to the left and the socket assembly should pull right out.
Rich

[-=Jeff=-]

The socket is down below the air filter housing on my 90. You should be able to feel a round socket with a blade of plastic in the middle of the socket. You give that blade a quarter turn to the left and the socket assembly should pull right out.
Rich

91 is different, you get to the bulbs from underneath if I recall correctly

[G8nightman]

91 is different, you get to the bulbs from underneath if I recall correctly

91 is from underneath the nose undo the bolt and an access panel will drop to give you access to the bulb

[Vette73]

91 is from underneath the nose undo the bolt and an access panel will drop to give you access to the bulb

Ok.....

So the bolt I'm guessing will be visible from underneath?

Do you know what size it is off hand? In front of spoiler or behind it?

Just making sure....Thanks...

[G8nightman]

Here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujSxEEBNQss

[Vette73]

Here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujSxEEBNQss

Now why didn't I think about that ? Lol..

Thank you so much.....

[LilRedCorvette]

Sorry to bump an old thread...have been reading up on LED conversion threads on here ad nauseum (making my brain hurt), even dropped by the ZR-1 tent at Carlisle to see a coupla cars with the conversion. Driving LilRed at night with this 1994 'candlelight technology' has become less than ideal lol.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has installed this fog lamp kit. They claim to be plug & play/won't melt the housings...I have an email in to the company to ask if they're error-free/internally-resisted, as well if they work with the stock wiring (I know that the fogs and high beams share a circuit) but have not heard back yet:

https://blacktop.racing/led-fog-light-bulbs-c4-chevrolet-corvette-led-bulb-upgrade-kit/#product-additional-info

Also front & rear side marker lights:

https://blacktop.racing/led-front-side-marker-bulbs-c4-chevrolet-corvette-led-bulb-upgrade-kit/

https://blacktop.racing/led-rear-side-marker-bulbs-c4-chevrolet-corvette-led-bulb-upgrade-kit/

I really need something that is plug & play/won't require hacking up the wiring...without getting into things on here, my health just isn't up for complex modding anymore and I'm an electrical idiot besides.

Any feedback/opinions would be most appreciated...thanks! :cheers:

[secondchance]

Sorry to bump an old thread...have been reading up on LED conversion threads on here ad nauseum (making my brain hurt), even dropped by the ZR-1 tent at Carlisle to see a coupla cars with the conversion. Driving LilRed at night with this 1994 'candlelight technology' has become less than ideal lol.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has installed this fog lamp kit. They claim to be plug & play/won't melt the housings...I have an email in to the company to ask if they're error-free/internally-resisted, as well if they work with the stock wiring (I know that the fogs and high beams share a circuit) but have not heard back yet:

https://blacktop.racing/led-fog-light-bulbs-c4-chevrolet-corvette-led-bulb-upgrade-kit/#product-additional-info

Also front & rear side marker lights:

https://blacktop.racing/led-front-side-marker-bulbs-c4-chevrolet-corvette-led-bulb-upgrade-kit/

https://blacktop.racing/led-rear-side-marker-bulbs-c4-chevrolet-corvette-led-bulb-upgrade-kit/

I really need something that is plug & play/won't require hacking up the wiring...without getting into things on here, my health just isn't up for complex modding anymore and I'm an electrical idiot besides.

Any feedback/opinions would be most appreciated...thanks! :cheers:

Front and rear marker light should work fine. Driving lights(fog light), I am not so sure.
I tried 2 different LED driving light replacement bulbs and was not impressed. I ended up going to HID lamps for driving lights. I can use my driving lights alone at night and enough light to drive. Below is a link to my old post.
http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26439&highlight=hid

[LilRedCorvette]

Front and rear marker light should work fine. Driving lights(fog light), I am not so sure.
I tried 2 different LED driving light replacement bulbs and was not impressed. I ended up going to HID lamps for driving lights. I can use my driving lights alone at night and enough light to drive. Below is a link to my old post.
http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26439&highlight=hid

Hi Yun!

I don't really need the fog lights to be bright, I just need them to work (as well as match LEDS on rest of car when done)...I just use them so others here in SUV-Land can see me in their blind spots, and primarily use the headlights to be able to see while driving at night. In fact, I saw your Trucklite headlights at Carlisle and think I want to go with them for my headlights, and adding the resistor that appears to be needed from the other threads on here I read.

Like I said, I'd rather not cut the stock wiring/avoid other wiring wizardry (that I'm not entirely sure I'm capable of). Was hoping to find some plug & play kits as an alternative to all that, but maybe I'm looking for a purple squirrel (?)

[Paul Workman]

Hi Yun!

I don't really need the fog lights to be bright, I just need them to work (as well as match LEDS on rest of car when done)...I just use them so others here in SUV-Land can see me in their blind spots, and primarily use the headlights to be able to see while driving at night. In fact, I saw your Trucklite headlights at Carlisle and think I want to go with them for my headlights, and adding the resistor that appears to be needed from the other threads on here I read.

Like I said, I'd rather not cut the stock wiring/avoid other wiring wizardry (that I'm not entirely sure I'm capable of). Was hoping to find some plug & play kits as an alternative to all that, but maybe I'm looking for a purple squirrel (?)

(This from a HOTB article I wrote after installing LEDs on my car) There are a couple ways to go when installing (Trucklite) LED headlights, and one is very simple and the other requires crawling under the dash and modifying the FOGLIGHT wiring. Easier by far is the LOAD RESISTOR option.

You simply install the preassembled (and connectorized) load resistor in series with the (Trucklite) LED assembly and secure it to the internal headlight cage assembly (I used zip ties). See photos)

I chose the "Larsen" projector LED headlights and am extremely pleased with them. But, LED applications are evolving and will be for some time to come. So, it pays to shop around!

[secondchance]

Another simple solution I found is to remove passenger side hush panel (below the dashboard), pull the fog light relay (one closest to the door), bend the grounding leg (opposite side of the door) side ways and then up, thread a wire through the hole on the leg (most if not all relay legs have a hole) and solder the wire, ground the wire on 10 mm nut up and right side, close to the door.
Mod can be undone later (if necessary) by simply replacing the relay.