Soldiers in Canada Murdered

[thirstyzr1]

For those on the forum that are a part of the military in the U.S.A, Canada or elsewhere...all police, fire and EMS personal....please be careful.

[KILLSHOTS]

Editing to delete the remainder of my post, as my comments were censored. Evidently, the OFF TOPIC section is not a safe place to voice valid OFF TOPIC comments.

[thirstyzr1]

The incident in Quebec 2 days ago, 2 soldiers were run down by a car driven by a converted to Islam extremist. He was shot and killed by police. 1 of the soldiers died as a result.
The incident in Ottawa today. A soldier was shot and killed at the war memorial on parlament hill. 3 further shootings were reported inside the government bulding, outside near by and at a shopping center.
1 suspect reported shot and killed. 2 suspects still at large.

[KILLSHOTS]

I was being sarcastic. We need to stop fooling ourselves and simply take a cursory look at the Qur'an. Those Islamists who kill in the name of Allah are not "extremist". They're just faithful.

[Hog]

CF members have been instructed to not stop at public places in uniform.(I was told that back in my ARmy days).

They actually shot a soldier who was guarding the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Cowards

RIP to both soldiers.

CSIS had raised Canada's terror threat from "Low" to "medium" only a few days ago.

[KILLSHOTS]

Careful, Paul...you don't want to call an Islamic Jihadist a "coward" on this site. You'll be censored.

[Kevin]

Careful, Paul...you don't want to call an Islamic Jihadist a "coward" on this site. You'll be censored.

the issue wasn't what you said, it was how you said it.


Now let's not clutter this thread up with that, if you have issues feel free to pm me

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Absolutely horrible acts of violence. The world is such a different place than I once knew. I feel for the soldiers and their families, not to mention Canada.

Religion and Politics are the two most difficult subjects to discuss. Interpretations often get lost in the translation, so to speak. Let's all be sensitive to both "what" we type and "interpret" here in Off Topic. We certainly don't want to over censure in Off Topic.

I'll only say that Religious and Political threads often end in a bad way on most forums.

Carry on, fellas.
:handshak:

[ZR-1 Franz]

Hello from Switzerland,

We shall go to see many of these acts of violence in future time. And we shall learn to
live with the fear. As long as our politicians accept that the Islam becomes part of
our nations we shall have no chance to live in peace! We have much too many of these
camel drivers and they begin to tell us how we have to live!
It would be a good idea to send them back where they belong to!!

Franz

[Hog]

Sergeant at Arms Vickers who took out the terrorist shooter receives standing ovation from parliament members.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu5XX-OTunc

Sergeant-at-Arms Vickers is a retired RCMP officer of 30 years and he has been the parliamentarian Seargeant-at-Arms since 2005. In all of his 58 years, this was the first time he had to fire his weapon during service.

RIP Corporal Cirillo
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The opening shots that began a devastating day on Parliament Hill killed a Hamilton reservist who dreamed of being a full-time soldier and deprived his kindergarten-aged son of his father.
Cpl. Nathan Cirillo, 24, was shot while on honorary guard at the National War Memorial. Ottawa Police announced hours after the shooting that the soldier shot at the memorial had died.
He would later be identified as Cirillo, a reservist from Hamilton serving with the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders of Canada regiment. Cirillo died a short time after the attack despite frantic efforts to revive him at the base of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

Here are 2 soldiers in ceremonial dress, standing guard over the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier only seconds before Corporal Cirillo was executed. The ceremonial guards were armed with C7 rifles, but were without bolts or ammunition. The C7 uses a 3 position "Safe/Semi Auto/Fully Automatic mode". It is akin to the US M16 in many ways.
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RIP Warrant Officer Patrice Vincent
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Canadian Tomb of the Unknown Soldier
The Canadian Tomb of the Unknown Soldier has the remains of a Canadian soldier who was killed in the Great War(WWI). In The remains of the soldier were exhumed on the morning of May 16, 2000, and the coffin was flown in a Canadian Forces aircraft to Ottawa on May 25, accompanied by a guard of honour, a chaplain, Royal Canadian Legion veterans, and representatives of Canadian youth. In Ottawa, the unknown soldier lay in state for three days.
At the old grave in France "Plot 8, Row E, Grave 7, of the Cabaret-Rouge British Cemetery in Souchez, France, near the memorial at Vimy Ridge, the site of the first major battle where Canadian troops fought as a combined force
The following inscription reads"THE FORMER GRAVE OF AN
UNKNOWN CANADIAN SOLDIER
OF THE FIRST WORLD WAR.
HIS REMAINS WERE REMOVED
ON 25 MAY 2000 AND NOW
LIE INTERRED AT THE
NATIONAL WAR MEMORIAL
IN OTTAWA CANADA.'
On the afternoon of May 28, the body of the unknown soldier was transported from Parliament Hill to the National War Memorial on a horse-drawn gun carriage provided by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP). Governor General Adrienne Clarkson and Prime Minister Jean Chrétien, as well as veterans, Canadian Forces personnel, and members of the RCMP, were in the funeral procession. Then, with appropriate ceremony, the body of the unknown soldier was re-interred in a sarcophagus in front of the War Memorial.
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[Hog]

Corporal Cirilo and his guard partner, who briefly gave chase to the shooter, wearing CADPAT
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Cpl. Nathan Cirillo's partner chased gunman: military source
The Hamilton reservist standing guard alongside Nathan Cirillo briefly chased the attacker before returning to the National War Memorial to try and revive his wounded friend.
Ron Foxcroft, the Honourary Colonel of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders of Canada regiment, said Brandon Stevenson showed "tremendous bravery" in pursuing the shooter, later identified as Michael Zehaf-Bibeau.
"The only thing I know is he tried to go after the shooter. That’s all I know, and I’ve been told that by several people,” Foxcroft said.
“I think he just went a few yards, but the shooter had such a head start on him.”
Neither Stevenson nor Cirillo were armed when the attack took place. The rifles they carried as honourary guards were not loaded.
Stevenson returned to Cirillo's side and tried, along with several bystanders, to revive the wounded reservist, Foxcroft said. Cirillo was transported to hospital where he died of his injuries.
The pair were both colleagues and friends, Foxcroft said. Several photos posted on a Facebook memorial page devoted to Cirillo show the two together, either in military clothing or our partying.
"They were very close. Obviously, (Stevenson) is in a state that we’d all be if we just lost our best friend," Foxcroft said, adding he's already getting grief counselling.
"We have people down there with him in Ottawa and we’re arranging to get him back to Hamilton."
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/cpl-nathan-cirillos-partner-chased-gunman-military-source/ar-BBaNSSr

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The story of the strangers who tried to save Cpl. Nathan Cirillo

OTTAWA — Lawyer Barbara Winters was headed to a meeting Wednesday near her office at the Canada Revenue Agency when she passed the National War Memorial, stopping to snap a few pictures of the two honour guards standing soberly at attention.
Moments later, after passing by a Canada Post office at the corner of Elgin and Sparks streets, she heard four shots. For Winters, a former member of the Canadian Forces Naval Reserve, the sounds were unmistakable.
Turning, she saw people on Elgin Street ducking. She began to run — not towards safety, but towards the shots, and the wounded soldier lying at the foot of the memorial.
As Winters ran, she looked for — but couldn’t see — the two soldiers. Her mind went to the hit-and-run death in Quebec of Warrant Officer Patrice Vincent two days earlier, and she instinctively knew the honour guards had been targeted.
As she reached the memorial, Winters saw four people bending over a fallen soldier. She dropped her purse and briefcase on the steps and began to help.
Margaret Lerhe, a nurse on her way to work at the Elizabeth Bruyere Hospital, was pressing her hands to a wound on Cpl. Nathan Cirillo’s left side to stanch the bleeding.
Another corporal, a third member of the honour guard who accompanies the two standing at attention, was on Cirillo’s right side, pressing his hands to a wound there.
Another soldier was bent over Cirillo’s head, talking to him.
“You’re doing good, you’re doing good, buddy,” he told Cirillo. “You’re breathing — keep breathing.”
Another passerby was at Cirillo’s feet. Winters, who served as a medic during her 17 years in the Naval Reserve, asked the man to elevate Cirillo’s feet. She loosened his tie.
The group began calling for an ambulance, and for police. Winters began to pray, reciting the Lord’s Prayer. She talked to Cirillo. He was conscious; his eyes were open, and he was staring straight ahead. She felt that he could hear her.
“You’re a good man, you’re a brave man,” she told him. Someone — Winters can’t remember who — said the soldier had stopped breathing. They began trying to find a pulse, one feeling his neck, one his wrist.
Remarkably, everyone on the scene had First Aid or medical training. Instinctively, they began operating as a team, talking and encouraging one another. They began CPR. The soldier at Cirillo’s head started mouth-to-mouth respiration. Winters began compressing Cirillo’s chest. She asked that the man holding Cirillo’s legs lift them higher. Lerhe, the nurse, coached Winters on the compressions, reassuring her that they were strong.
After a time, someone else relieved her on the chest compressions, and Winters moved to Cirillo’s head. She talked to him, comforting him. “You are loved. Your family loves you. You’re a good man,” she told him.
Winters told Cirillo to think about what he was doing — that he’d been standing guard at the National War Memorial. She told him what a good man he was for doing his duty.
She didn’t see a wedding ring, and didn’t know if he was married. So she just kept repeating: “Your family loves you. Your parents are so proud of you. Your military family loves you. All the people here, we’re working so hard for you. Everybody loves you.”
The impromptu team kept waiting for an ambulance, desperately willing Cirillo to hang on. “You are so loved,” Winters told Cirillo. “We’re all trying to help you.”
Sirens signalled the arrival of the paramedics. The soldier at Cirillo’s head stood up to give them access. Winters took over doing mouth-to-mouth, her body prone over Cirillo’s, her feet resting on the fallen soldier’s empty rifle.
The paramedics cut open his clothes to assess the injuries, took over the chest compressions and put a neck brace on him. As they worked, Lerhe relayed information about his injuries.
But Cirillo died in the arms of the people working so hard to keep him alive.
Winters does not think she did anything extraordinary by running towards the sound of the shots. She is shaken by the experience, but full of praise for all of those who worked to help.
“No one was hysterical. Everyone was so calm. Everyone was entirely focused on the soldier and on helping him.”
She has complete admiration for the courage of her fellow helpers, who worked steadily despite the possibility of the danger from another gunman.
Afterwards, Winters remembered the actions of other women who went to the aid of another dying soldier — Lee Rigby, murdered in southeast London in 2013. As Rigby lay bleeding, several women persuaded his killers to let them go to him. One sat beside him and held him.
Winters did what most people would do, she says.
“When you are dying, you need to be told how loved you are.”
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/the-story-of-the-strangers-who-tried-to-save-cpl-nathan-cirillo/ar-BBaOnEV
A RCMP officer looks at floral tributes to Cpl. Nathan Cirillo.
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