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efnfast
09-15-2014, 08:32 AM
When you replace or modify your shifter, what do you do about a reverse lock out? Seems like it would be tough to go from 5th to reverse, but Bill B says it can be done up to 80 mph, once.

KILLSHOTS
09-15-2014, 10:32 AM
Bill just installed one of his lift-ring shifters on my car a couple months ago. I was under the impression that the crash-through detent on the later models was a function of the transmission itself, not the shifter. So even if you could install a non lift-ring on an early car, you'd have no crash-through feature and that would be VERY dangerous indeed. Hope this helps.

zrss
09-15-2014, 11:43 AM
I had Bill shorten the original shifter but maintain the reverse lock out. Best of both worlds, in my view.

efnfast
09-15-2014, 06:26 PM
I had Bill shorten the original shifter but maintain the reverse lock out. Best of both worlds, in my view.
Short throw and short shifter, or just short shifter?

zrss
09-15-2014, 06:31 PM
Just short shifter. I would expect that short throw and short shifter would require more effort to shift than I was looking for.

dredgeguy
09-15-2014, 09:13 PM
Not to worry, you will get used to not having the lock out. I do not have one on my Hurst and while I am careful from 5 to 6, never needed to do a very fast shift in that area. Once I am in 3rd, am home free dusting somebody off.

efnfast
09-16-2014, 07:15 AM
Somebody explain the "crash through" feature. Is it part of the shifter, or part of the tranny.

WVZR-1
09-16-2014, 07:29 AM
Somebody explain the "crash through" feature. Is it part of the shifter, or part of the tranny.

The '95 crash-through has internal transmission/shifter differences.

There was actually even a TSB/Recall that effected the first few LT5 builds in '95 regarding "unable to shift into reverse".

The TSB/recall is referenced here at the CAC:

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/tech/knowledgebase/article/1995-corvette-recall-high-shift-effort-into-reverse-gear-on-manual-transmission-592.html

5ABI VT
09-16-2014, 09:56 AM
I have the Hurst on my 94 black tag (later style just built in Germany), and its quite easy to go to reverse. So easy in fact I would have to make sure I keep an eye if someone else were to drive the car and I even have to pay attn myself even shifting easily. Not too happy about it but 6th is just a fuel mileage gear anyways so like mentioned above.. its a slow easy shift once relaxing anyways.

mike100
09-16-2014, 10:49 AM
My C4 before my current ZR was a 95 coupe w a 6 speed. I liked the crash-thru so much that I had Bill B. convert mine during the rebuild of my black tag gearbox. I guess I was already accustomed to no lift ring. It does require a good effort to find reverse, it won't be flying in there under the shifter's own weight and inertia like the early style without the lock ring.

WARP TEN
09-16-2014, 11:45 AM
On HIL KING, my 93 ZR-1, I had a Hurst shifter installed and did not include a lift ring. The original shifter had one and I hated it. Extremely awkward to both lift the ring and pull the shifter away from you to your right. I just used the crash feature and it worked fine. The shorter shift lever actually decreases leverage a bit so the crash "spring" feature seemed adequate to prevent shifting into reverse when trying for sixth. --Bob

cvette98pacecar
09-17-2014, 01:16 AM
Favorite Quote,
How many times do you power shift 6th gear.
BOB G.