First $100k $tag I've seen...

[Schrade]

Never titled, 33 miles. Hmmm... (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Corvette-ZR1-1990-Chevrolet-Corvette-Base-Hatchback-2-Door-5-7L-RARE-ZR1-/331308367309?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4d23847dcd&item=331308367309&pt=US_Cars_Trucks)

Torn plastic; not a big deal, but a 'deal' none-the-less for 6 figures.

Stained floormat? Well, if it was a leaf, ... ditto...

Never seen one with that pricetag.

http://www.zr1.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3767&stc=1&d=1409705114

[Z06scentair]

Awesome!

[RICHARD TILL]

Mint

[8cam]

Sad.

[Hog]

Sad.

Very sad!


But you never know though, a 100 large is nothing to the small percent with most of the wealth. You will never get what you never ask for. Impulse buy for them, silly buy for us working class.

Not the only one in that condition out there. I have seen others that havent been PDI'd yet.

"Never been driven? " Someone drove it 33 miles, and they wouldnt have been "gentle" miles either.

Cars like this need to be drained of all fluids and stored in a Nitrogen environment. They will never be driven. Like a wild animal kept in a cage.

[edram454]

didnt a 25 miler sell at mecum auction without dealer prep for 35k?? it was white and I saw it in person. Never dealer prepped white with red interior sold for about 35k. It was from the Roger Judski collection. He also owns the one and only 1969 ZL1 yellow Corvette. 100k seems like this guy is dreaming. The car is impeccable. What I look at is the leather grain on the steering wheel and shifter knob. this car is brand new.

[Z06scentair]

What I look at is the leather grain on the steering wheel and shifter knob. this car is brand new.

Absolutely correct this tells the story.

It's easy to forget they still haven't became classic's just yet. The sky is the limit for such cars in years to come. At 37 I hope to still be around to see them skyrocket!

[Schrade]

I think there's a White ZL1 survivor somewhere, although IT probably can't be had for <30 x $100k... :eek:

[KILLSHOTS]

They're nuts. Unfortunately for them, if you sort by price on eBay, directly below this is another red '90 with only 127 miles and the dealer is only asking $47,995. Yeah, it was never titled, which is cool. But $100K? Give me a break.

[edram454]

I think there's a White ZL1 survivor somewhere, although IT probably can't be had for <30 x $100k... :eek:

Actually, the second zl1 is orange. I read about its unveiling a couple of years ago. It does have documentation saying it is a zl1. The white car, which I have seen on a few occasions has been around since the mid 80's where I saw it in the 1987 bloomington gold show. this corvette was restored by d&m corvette. It does have a zl1 engine and a very nice white with black stripe paint job but it has no documentation. The yellow zl1 had the factory black stripe around the front fenders and was ordered for a chevy engineer who eventually did not purchase it. It went to a dealer in Virginia and sat on a lot for a long white. somebody paid a huge price for it and took it home only to remove the engine and put it in a race boat. The car was rediscovered by wayne walker of zip products and eventually did manage to purchase the engine from the boat owner. that car at one time was in miami when craig priest of the vette smith purchased it and had it in his showroom floor. the car was then confiscated by dea and auctioned off to roger judski who paid around 200k for it. It is worth way over a million now. One of my very favorite corvettes of all time. sorry to hijack the thread just wanted to set the story right.

ed ramos. #3028

[6d8muscle]

WOW!

[Mystic ZR-1]

They're nuts. Unfortunately for them, if you sort by price on eBay, directly below this is another red '90 with only 127 miles and the dealer is only asking $47,995. Yeah, it was never titled, which is cool. But $100K? Give me a break.

That's what they should be going for, but...

[KILLSHOTS]

Well, one advantage to the 33-mile car is that the Bose stereo and lumbar bladders might still work. The 127-mile car has just been driven too much, so both items are probably shot. ;)

[Hog]

Actually, the second zl1 is orange. I read about its unveiling a couple of years ago. It does have documentation saying it is a zl1. The white car, which I have seen on a few occasions has been around since the mid 80's where I saw it in the 1987 bloomington gold show. this corvette was restored by d&m corvette. It does have a zl1 engine and a very nice white with black stripe paint job but it has no documentation. The yellow zl1 had the factory black stripe around the front fenders and was ordered for a chevy engineer who eventually did not purchase it. It went to a dealer in Virginia and sat on a lot for a long white. somebody paid a huge price for it and took it home only to remove the engine and put it in a race boat. The car was rediscovered by wayne walker of zip products and eventually did manage to purchase the engine from the boat owner. that car at one time was in miami when craig priest of the vette smith purchased it and had it in his showroom floor. the car was then confiscated by dea and auctioned off to roger judski who paid around 200k for it. It is worth way over a million now. One of my very favorite corvettes of all time. sorry to hijack the thread just wanted to set the story right.

ed ramos. #3028
I have pics of a 1969 ZL1, it is yellow, and was ordered by George Heberling, plant manager of the St Louis plant. It has the black fender stripe you speak of.

So that's 1 of 2 ZL1 Vettes. There were 59 ZL1 Camaros built in 1969.(EDIT:69 in 69)

[edram454]

That is correct. It was ordered by George Heberling Chevy Plant Manager. That fender stripe was stock as it left the factory with it. A few people tried to buy it while it sat in a Virginia dealership but it was a rough running car and would load up and stall etc... finally a race enthusiast purchased it. It roughly cost double of a new Corvette because of that zl1 option.

[BigJohn]

Cool, another car with dry rot!!!!!!!!!

[Z06scentair]

There were 59 ZL1 Camaros built in 1969.

69 1969 ZL-1 camaro's were built.

[Z06scentair]

Same seller just posted a black on black 36 miles for 100k...this just keeps getting better!

[tccrab]

I have pics of a 1969 ZL1, it is yellow, and was ordered by George Heberling, plant manager of the St Louis plant. It has the black fender stripe you speak of.

So that's 1 of 2 ZL1 Vettes. There were 59 ZL1 Camaros built in 1969.

White with Black L88 Hood scoop ZL1
http://corvettes-musclecars.com/gallery2/v/al_corvette/1969+Corvette+ZL-1+427-430HP/

'Crabs

[KILLSHOTS]

Same seller just posted a black on black 36 miles for 100k...this just keeps getting better!
Actually, not black...it's the VERY rare (and beautiful, IMO) charcoal gray with black. Only 36 miles and MANUAL A/C. Still not worth anywhere near 100K but I'm drooling over this one...

[edram454]

White with Black L88 Hood scoop ZL1
http://corvettes-musclecars.com/gallery2/v/al_corvette/1969+Corvette+ZL-1+427-430HP/

'Crabs

I have seen this car and it looks like the d&m restored corvette. It had the exact same paint scheme. What the picture hides is that not only was the black l88 cowl black but the rear back lights was also black. Jack Cheskaty I believe also owned a zr2 corvette which was a ls6 1971 bigblock convertible with the zr2 option. That name is very familiar. I read the whole article and it sure seems like there is documentation. I did recently see a orange 1969 corvette that showed documentation in one of the big corvette magazines and it was the Missing zl1 corvette found article. Is there 3 of them?? I know for sure the yellow one is original. The white one sounds like its true especially since Mr. Cheskaty backs it up. The orange one??? All three are restored. Thanks for finding that article.

I spoke with the owner of d&m or is it d&a corvette and he rebuilt the engine in that white one but at the time would not confirm its originality. This was in the 1980's so who knows. Maybe its the same car but this time with documentation.

[Schrade]

I read an article in a hot rod [?] mag 35 years ago about an L88 / C48 [?] vette, with M22 'Rock Crusher' tranny, that was believed to be 550 HP, 17x? MPH capable.

I know in retrospect that the article was about ZL1. Didn't mention rarity, that I remember. Not even a picture, but an artist Black & White sketch.


Hmmm...
Nothin' like boostin' your own thread ;)

[KILLSHOTS]

I'm stunned. Talk about going off topic. Please start a ZL1 thread...


Moderators???

[edram454]

sorry. On topic, only zr1's that can command 100k+ are the speedsters, LM bodied or twin turbo LT5. I saw a callaway twin turbo LT5 speedster no sale at 150k at mecum. 100k for a stock z is not possible....yet.

[John Boothby]

I don't know the seller, but they probably aren't the only ultra low mile ZR-1's in Vegas. I know of one of the long time Chevy dealer's here that put away a new vette every year. I don't know if he still does this, but his father did and he continued after his father passed.

I have a hunch that there are probably a good number of low mile Z's around. $100K? gotta put it out there and see if there are any fish in the ocean!! I hope he finds one.

[A26B]

sorry. On topic, only zr1's that can command 100k+ are the speedsters, LM bodied or twin turbo LT5. I saw a callaway twin turbo LT5 speedster no sale at 150k at mecum. 100k for a stock z is not possible....yet.

Help me out a little..... what's "LM" bodied?

I think the only way to escalate the price of literally anything is to start asking for more. Consequently, I'm glad to see this happen.

EXAMPLE: I recently did a full remodel on my son's house to be able to sell it. The realtor started in with the comp evaluation for a recommended listing price. I said "Everything in construction is going up, labor, materials even new houses. How are we going to justify the remodel cost if we keep comparing to old sales price? By doing that, values will never rise" We listed for 15% more and got nearly 13% more than the comps.

You will never get it unless you ask for it. That applies to a lot more than cars & houses ;)

[Ccmano]

And then there were two! This guy just posted a second one Black with only 36 miles. Also asking $100K. He can ask what he wants, but in think he's crazy if he expects to get anywhere near that price.


Jerry, I agree, if we all went with comps, price would never increase. Had the same conversation with my realtor recently. Conversely, expectations on actual selling price need to realistic.
H
:cheers:

[edram454]

Help me out a little..... what's "LM" bodied?

I think the only way to escalate the price of literally anything is to start asking for more. Consequently, I'm glad to see this happen.

EXAMPLE: I recently did a full remodel on my son's house to be able to sell it. The realtor started in with the comp evaluation for a recommended listing price. I said "Everything in construction is going up, labor, materials even new houses. How are we going to justify the remodel cost if we keep comparing to old sales price? By doing that, values will never rise" We listed for 15% more and got nearly 13% more than the comps.

You will never get it unless you ask for it. That applies to a lot more than cars & houses ;)

LM bodies is those Lemans bodied cars Reeves Callaway made. They are very swoopy and look european. He didnt make many of them. Lemans body style.

[Z06scentair]

He can ask what he wants, but in think he's crazy if he expects to get anywhere near that price.
H
:cheers:

Some people paid 100k new for these cars. The most important fact is both cars have <40 miles. There are people that can write these types of checks and never even think twice.

The more cars that are modified in years to come, only causes the price of cars like these two listed continue to become more valuable.

Brad

[BigJohn]

Help me out a little..... what's "LM" bodied?

You will never get it unless you ask for it. That applies to a lot more than cars & houses ;)

If I knew how; I would post a photo of mine!!!

:confused:

[8cam]

One of these, I believe.

http://www.callawaycars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/C-Projects-auto-advance-mv_edit.010A.jpg

[edram454]

you got it. They are nice looking cars. The speedster version of these LM cars also come with a hard top.

[Mystic ZR-1]

One of these, I believe.

http://www.callawaycars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/C-Projects-auto-advance-mv_edit.010A.jpg

Nice , but they're not ZR-1s like Big John's...

[USAZR1]

If I knew how; I would post a photo of mine!!!
:confused:


Send me a few pics,John. I'll post them for you.

FWIW,I have a large BF Goodrich banner on my garage wall that features a Callaway LM on it.

[Ccmano]

Some people paid 100k new for these cars. The most important fact is both cars have <40 miles. There are people that can write these types of checks and never even think twice.

The more cars that are modified in years to come, only causes the price of cars like these two listed continue to become more valuable.

Brad

No question many paid $100k plus back in the day to get the first ones and many have the coin today. Problem is they just don't currently bring those prices even with <40 miles, especially 1990's. A 1995 with those miles might squeek in there. Should they command those prices, we all think so. The market will come around to these, it will just take longer.
H

[KILLSHOTS]

A 1995 with those miles might squeek in there.

The very last ZR-1 ever sold to the public, with fewer than 500 miles and a very interesting history, languished on eBay for months at an asking price of $95K. I'd bet my Z that it didn't sell for anywhere near that, if at all. Agreed, we want them to be worth big bucks but they're just not. This guy in Vegas is delusional if he really thinks he'll near $50K for either car.

[Mystic ZR-1]

If I knew how; I would post a photo of mine!!!

:confused:

Big John
How's this?

[Bob Eyres]

IMHO, those LM's are THE most beautiful C4.

If only GM had seen fit to make the C4 ZR-1 that visually distinctive, you'd see a completely different price structure on used ones today.
Face it, we've got a "stealth" collector car. And that's not good for prices.

[MickeyD]

The 90's on ebay is a pipe dream. No way he will get it. Worth 30-35 at best.

[USAZR1]

IMHO, those LM's are THE most beautiful C4.
If only GM had seen fit to make the C4 ZR-1 that visually distinctive, you'd see a completely different price structure on used ones today.
Face it, we've got a "stealth" collector car. And that's not good for prices.

I agree 100%,Bob.

[Z06scentair]

He's lowered the price on both cars!


Real bargin pricing now.....motivated seller!