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65ZR1
07-15-2014, 06:26 PM
Im a complete noob when it comes to tuning but I would like to learn. Can anyone recommend any sites to learn the basics and get me started? I downloaded tunerpro and the 93-95 definition file. Where can I get a bin file so that I can start exploring the program?

Thanks!

1990 quasar blue
07-16-2014, 12:19 PM
http://m.thirdgen.org/techboard/forumdisplay.php?f=16

65ZR1
07-16-2014, 08:34 PM
Thanks, Ive been reading for a few hours. Good stuff.
Any recommendations for hardware and software? Ive been looking at tunerpro, moates and innovate for the wideband oxygen sensor.

Any idea where I can get a stock 94 bin?

XfireZ51
07-16-2014, 11:09 PM
Definitely go to 3rd Gen and read the stickies. Take a look at a presentation I did for the Gathering this May also.

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23027

65ZR1
07-18-2014, 07:02 AM
Great presentation! Thanks for the info. Any recommendations for hardware or software?

XfireZ51
07-18-2014, 09:25 AM
Great presentation! Thanks for the info. Any recommendations for hardware or software?

My recommendations would be for the software/hardware in the presentation.
=Jeff= has created an adx file for Android tablets u can use to datalog.
You need a

1. chip burner/reader
2. Scan tool/datalogger
3. Bin editor w correct Def Files.
4. Lots of time and gas
5. For WOT, YOU'll need a Wide Band O2 (Innovate, Zeitronix ZT-2, DYNAMIC EFI TT-1 WB)

-=Jeff=-
07-18-2014, 09:41 AM
Here is what I am using:


Moates Burn1
Tunerpro RT
ALDLDroid
VETuner


Burn1 to burn my PROMs
Tunerpro RT for making changes
ALDLDroid (or Tunerpro) for Datalogging they both use the SAME ADX file
VETuner for auto adjusting the VE tables based on the BIN file and the datalog

65ZR1
07-18-2014, 06:12 PM
My recommendations would be for the software/hardware in the presentation.
=Jeff= has created an adx file for Android tablets u can use to datalog.
You need a

1. chip burner/reader
2. Scan tool/datalogger
3. Bin editor w correct Def Files.
4. Lots of time and gas
5. For WOT, YOU'll need a Wide Band O2 (Innovate, Zeitronix ZT-2, DYNAMIC EFI TT-1 WB)

I see you mention the Moates Apu1 and the Ostrich 2.0 Doesn't the APU1 also do emulation or does the ostrich 2.0 do a better job.

Would this be good?
Moates APU1
Moates G1 chip adapter
TunerPro
Innovate LC-2 wideband controller
Anything else?

65ZR1
07-18-2014, 06:14 PM
Here is what I am using:


Moates Burn1
Tunerpro RT
ALDLDroid
VETuner


Burn1 to burn my PROMs
Tunerpro RT for making changes
ALDLDroid (or Tunerpro) for Datalogging they both use the SAME ADX file
VETuner for auto adjusting the VE tables based on the BIN file and the datalog

Any preference over ALDLDroid or Tunerpro Jeff? Tunerpro will datalog and edit in one package. Does this keep things simpler?

XfireZ51
07-18-2014, 06:21 PM
I see you mention the Moates Apu1 and the Ostrich 2.0 Doesn't the APU1 also do emulation or does the ostrich 2.0 do a better job.

Would this be good?
Moates APU1
Moates G1 chip adapter
TunerPro
Innovate LC-2 wideband controller
Anything else?

Those are fine. The APU1 is an All Purpose Unit. So it reads and writes chips, also does emulation. Ostrich is just an emulator which was fine for me since I already had chip read/burn equipment.

65ZR1
07-18-2014, 06:31 PM
One last thing for now. I cant seem to find VETuner 2.0
Thanks for the the help!

XfireZ51
07-18-2014, 07:23 PM
One last thing for now. I cant seem to find VETuner 2.0
Thanks for the the help!

Still in beta. Not generally available. Ask =Jeff=

-=Jeff=-
07-21-2014, 08:40 AM
Any preference over ALDLDroid or Tunerpro Jeff? Tunerpro will datalog and edit in one package. Does this keep things simpler?

Tunerpro is a great all in one package for a PC. ALDLDroid uses an android device to datalog (am I believe there is going to be tuning functionality as well)

the cool thing is the ALDLDroid uses the Tunerpro ADX definition.

I have a tablet in the dash of my car so having the datalogging always there is great.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8IQ6MjOvFng/U7_MESFK3HI/AAAAAAAAF7E/poPbmHZlLB8/w1126-h634-no/IMG_20140711_061758252.jpg

XfireZ51
07-21-2014, 09:40 AM
Jeff,

How do I create the .txt file for use w VETuner after logging?

-=Jeff=-
07-21-2014, 09:46 AM
Jeff,

How do I create the .txt file for use w VETuner after logging?

.txt file for what?

Datalog should be a .csv

XfireZ51
07-21-2014, 10:23 AM
EASE produces a .txt file for me. Either one.

-=Jeff=-
07-21-2014, 10:41 AM
it does? Guess I need to add that functionality back in

XfireZ51
07-21-2014, 10:50 AM
it does? Guess I need to add that functionality back in

Yes it does. VETuner seems to handle it just fine. I use that log as is when re-calc VE.