View Full Version : treatment for weather stripping
Vetman
06-19-2014, 05:25 PM
What do you recommend for treatment on the rubber weather stripping on the top and around the windows. Mine is near perfect and I want to keep it thaT way. :dancing
USAFPILOT
06-19-2014, 07:58 PM
Dielectric silicon grease
We Gone
06-19-2014, 08:11 PM
Dielectric silicon grease
Yes, twice a year will last forever
weldbead
06-19-2014, 09:54 PM
id of thought armorall..would that be preferred to armorall in general?
XfireZ51
06-19-2014, 10:33 PM
Dielectric silicon grease
Awesome. Learn something all the time.
Racinfan83
06-20-2014, 04:58 AM
Yeah never heard of the dielectric grease for that. I use Aerospace 303..
Paul Workman
06-20-2014, 05:30 AM
Dielectric silicon grease
Interesting. But, does dust stick to it? I've always used those silicon based goops like "Black Magic" or the like.
The 3M 303 Protectant has long had rave reviews and contains SPF 40 ultraviolet protection especially for vinyl (rubber is mentioned as well) to avoid cracking, etc. I wonder how it compares to dielectric grease (which I've also heard works on rubber as well)?
I judge how well it protects if after it dries and I rub it with a white cloth: is there black residue on the cloth that would indicate the rubber is oxidizing?
:happy1:
WVZR-1
06-20-2014, 06:40 AM
Interesting. But, does dust stick to it? I've always used those silicon based goops like "Black Magic" or the like.
The 3M 303 Protectant has long had rave reviews and contains SPF 40 ultraviolet protection especially for vinyl (rubber is mentioned as well) to avoid cracking, etc. I wonder how it compares to dielectric grease (which I've also heard works on rubber as well)?
I judge how well it protects if after it dries and I rub it with a white cloth: is there black residue on the cloth that would indicate the rubber is oxidizing?
:happy1:
303 Protectant is NOT a 3M product. 303 is certainly the "go to product". No silicones! It's mentioned that it's anti-static and since I first used it in the mid 80's I've seen no issues. Dust certainly shouldn't be an issue. Not inexpensive and maybe difficult to find in some areas. Price certainly forces many to likely "put it back on the shelf". Large RV or marine outlets will certainly have it. It used to be (mid/late 80's) very difficult to find, there are some things the Internet has really enhanced and that's availability of some products.
I don't know that your test is very valid but I'll assume you're talking about weeks/months from it's use. Yes/no?
Paul Workman
06-20-2014, 08:34 AM
303 Protectant is NOT a 3M product. 303 is certainly the "go to product". No silicones! It's mentioned that it's anti-static and since I first used it in the mid 80's I've seen no issues. Dust certainly shouldn't be an issue. Not inexpensive and maybe difficult to find in some areas. Price certainly forces many to likely "put it back on the shelf". Large RV or marine outlets will certainly have it. It used to be (mid/late 80's) very difficult to find, there are some things the Internet has really enhanced and that's availability of some products.
I don't know that your test is very valid but I'll assume you're talking about weeks/months from it's use. Yes/no?
Seems I read that 3M did develop the 303 stuff, but I'll leave it at that, except to say "Googling" 3M 303 Protectant comes up as a 3M product, but who knows?
That said, the reviews for the 303 stuff is very good. I believe Adam's has it available (or did at one time), and like you said, the internet has solved a lot of product availability issues!
Can't say the rubbing "test" is necessarily comprehensive or conclusive. However, it is obvious that rubber that IS deteriorating in the sun becomes dull and will leave a black smudge on a finger or cloth when rubbed. It has been my experience with the silicone based stuff that the deterioration (oxidation?) I spoke of seems to stop after its use. But, is that a true evaluation of protection? I dunno. (Could be some MIL spec test(s) is/are available, if one were to dig into it a bit more. Course it would end the anecdotal speculation, but what fun would that be??:p )
Dielectric grease can be found on Amazon for a reasonable price. A little go's a long way.
It should be rubbed into the weatherstrip slowly and evenly. All side's of the weatherstrip that you can get to should be done. This takes time , but is well worth it.
After a couple of weeks go back and do the weatherstrip that has been exposed to the sun and do it over again. Don't leave excess dielectric grease on the weatherstrip. Doing so will just be a waste.
We Gone
06-20-2014, 11:50 AM
Had this tube left over from a job about 20 years ago used on more than 15 vettes twice a year, a little goes a long ways as FU stated
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/822/o1wl.jpg
Paul Workman
06-20-2014, 12:23 PM
Had this tube left over from a job about 20 years ago used on more than 15 vettes twice a year, a little goes a long ways as FU stated
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/822/o1wl.jpg
Hmmmm.... Looks like the key ingredient is SILICONE, no?
We Gone
06-20-2014, 12:41 PM
Hmmmm.... Looks like the key ingredient is SILICONE, no?
That's what it says lol, I'll say this much been using it on the 91 for the last 12 years and the seals still look and feel like new.
Paul Workman
06-20-2014, 01:42 PM
That's what it says lol, I'll say this much been using it on the 91 for the last 12 years and the seals still look and feel like new.
What!? Only tested for 23 years? What kind of fly-by-night product is that? LOL!
WVZR-1
06-20-2014, 03:07 PM
Hmmmm.... Looks like the key ingredient is SILICONE, no?
You don't want a "Silicone" based product anywhere near your painters shop. Does NOT make for a happy painter. If you use a good bit of Silicone based products let your painter know.
Racinfan83
06-20-2014, 03:42 PM
Here is a link to the Aerospace 303. I got mine at a local O'Reillys that had ordered a case to get ONE for somebody - so it was not on the shelf they had it in the case box behind the counter. So they can order it or you can get it on Amazon too..
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/brand.oap?mn=303+Products&mc=TTP
We Gone
06-20-2014, 03:50 PM
You don't want a "Silicone" based product anywhere near your painters shop. Does NOT make for a happy painter. If you use a good bit of Silicone based products let your painter know.
You are 100% correct that is why I only use it on weather-stripping and the water proof plugs.
Z51JEFF
06-21-2014, 01:00 PM
Ive used Krytox but dielectric grease is also good.
Paul Workman
06-21-2014, 03:27 PM
You are 100% correct that is why I only use it on weather-stripping and the water proof plugs.
Yeah. I think avoiding spraying it on tires, ore the like should be avoided. I spray it on a rag or take the sprayer pump out and pour some directly onto a rag and then apply it to tires - to keep it from getting on the paint.
Brett might know, but I wonder if Dawn will strip silicon off of paint?
PhillipsLT5
06-21-2014, 07:14 PM
How is this?
http://www.amazon.com/Sil-Glyde-Silicone-Lubricating-Compound-Ounce/dp/B0054DWS1W
WVZR-1
06-21-2014, 07:43 PM
How is this?
http://www.amazon.com/Sil-Glyde-Silicone-Lubricating-Compound-Ounce/dp/B0054DWS1W
I'd think 303 would be the preferred only because of the various uses for the product. With 303 you can toss any of the other product that you use for tires and anything that isn't leather. 303 is just the real deal and it's NOT Silicone base.
Buy and try 303 once and you'll be sold. I have no doubt!
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