91 VD Built 368 ZR1 FOR SALE

[Mitsumark]

Ok fellas..The car is officially up for sale now..I thought I had it worked out and the car started burning oil again and smoking at idle..For those of you that had followed my thread in the Tech forum know the problems I was having..As of recent,,car came back with very strong compression #s and was just checked out by a local performance shop..It is in their opinion the car is in need of either IH gaskets or Valve seals..I dont have the money or time to fix it,and quite frankly I hate the car at this point..It still drives and pulls hard in every gear without hiccup..However I cant take the smoke as it stinks and is very embarrasing..Im done with it..I will give a basic rundown of what I know has been done.. However I cant include every little specific as I threw everything at the car trying to correct the probem..This would include every electrical sensor,IAC motor,02 sensors,PCV valves,ect all within the last year..Again car runs and drives but smokes (Blue)at idle..The first person to show me 10K will take the car..I will NOT part it out..I will NOT take anything under 10K..The car is extremely well documented and I have every single receipt that consists of over 250 documents..Anyone interested can feel free to call me with any additional info they may need..Car resides in Central NJ and I will work with anyone that needs to set up transport..Below is a brief description about the car..I will have pics available in this thread tonight as I will go outside and take fresh pics so you will see it as it sits..AS FOLLOWS

91 ZR1 Black/Black,6spd,79K on odometer,,15K on mods.Exterior is good with no dents or rust..The car is a great 10 footer but would lok much better with someone who knows how to cut and polish out small scratches,oxidation,ect..The car has resided outside the last 3yrs..Interior is in good shape with no rips/tears,ect.

Vette Doctors Built 368 Engine Package(RX500) which consists of
Jeal Cams
JE Forged Pistons
Billet/Forged Lightweight Connecting Rods
Ported & Polished Heads,Injector Housings,63MM TB all done by Greg Van Deventor
Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel w/Carolina Clutch Stage 2
4;10 Gears
Oversized Fluidyne Radiator/Oil Cooler (Custom Stacked)w 16' Spal Fan
SS Oil Cooler Hoses
Moroso Billet Catch Can
MSD Coils w/Magnecor 9MM wires
Watson Headers(Swain Coated} into Full 3' Catless B&B TriFlow Exhaust
Secondarys Deleted running on Heibeck PROM
New FIC Stainless Injectors
Samco Coolant Hose Kit
Jerrys Gaskets PCV Assembly w/new PCVs
Diacom Data Logging Software w/Under hood connections
Car Dynoed 459RWHP back in 02..(Have Dyno Sheet)

Other Mods Im aware of with documentation are

Kim Baker Rollbar
DRM Coilover Kit
DRM Modified Trailing Arms
RD Racing LT5 Camber Brace
C5 Z06 Wildwood Front Brakes w/Guido Movit Master Cylinder Bias Spring and all SS Lines
Kurt White ZF Short Shifter w/Hurst Ball
MOMO Hub w/NRD Racing Wheel
ARE Torque Thrust 2 Wheels-17x11/17x9.5 Combo with Brand New Nitto 555 Rubber
Autometer 5'Tach w/Shift Light
Pioneer Indash DVD/CD Player w/IPOD Integration
Pioneer spreakers in all Stock Locations

[Mitsumark]

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[youngrm]

Hey not sure if your interested, dropped you a line in your other thread,
Pm me if you'd like some help with your engine issue.
Ric young

[Mitsumark]

ZR-1 is SOLD... Thanks for all the inquiries for the people who contacted me..Another forum member came and didn't waste any time..I won't share his info but wish him the best of luck sorting out the car...I also want to thank the many great people who went out of they're way to reach out to me with help offerings..You guys are a great bunch and I hope one day when money and time allows,I can get into another C4 ZR1...:handshak:

[Racinfan83]

Knew that wouldn't last long...
Wish I had some spare $ but I don't..:cry:
Maybe someday I hit some lottery loot and pay off my debts - and then I could jump on stuff like this. DARNIT!

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Wasn't me....really....

[pantera1683]

Someone got a "smoking" deal :dancing

[KILLSHOTS]

Someone got a "smoking" deal :dancing

HA!!!

Alright, come on...who bought it??????

[cvette98pacecar]

Wasnt me. I have enough projects

[Racinfan83]

HA!!!

Alright, come on...who bought it??????

Yeah, no doubt.... I wish it was me. :cry: Like I need another project/something to do - but for that deal I'd been all over it if I coulda sprung the $10k when I saw the post this am. Man it sucks to be a blue collar worker and be in debt up to yer arse..:mad:

[XfireZ51]

Yeah, no doubt.... I wish it was me. :cry: Like I need another project/something to do - but for that deal I'd been all over it if I coulda sprung the $10k when I saw the post this am. Man it sucks to be a blue collar worker and be in debt up to yer arse..:mad:

Welcome to the neighborhood.

[efnfast]

Yeah, no doubt.... I wish it was me. :cry: Like I need another project/something to do - but for that deal I'd been all over it if I coulda sprung the $10k when I saw the post this am. Man it sucks to be a blue collar worker and be in debt up to yer arse..:mad:

Been there, done.....oh wait, still there.

Sorry to see a car get sold like this. Raw deal for the seller. Better luck in future ventures.

[USAZR1]

Wasnt me. I have enough projects


You were the first guy I thought of,though.

[G8nightman]

Dam Looks like im 3 days late I would have bought it.

[Karl]

Welcome to the neighborhood.

lol!!!

MBA with honors graduate here, 3.85 GPA and i'm in the same boat!

This buds for you!

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[PhillipsLT5]

Now that the car is sold are the A Molds still available that I was 1st in line for?

[alnukem]

I bought the car. I figured it would be a perfect candidate for a Big Block Chevy Swap that I have always thought about. It had a big rad, big brakes, coilovers, HD Trans & 11" wheels. I have a complete 496 BBC engine sitting in my garage already. I thought I might try tinkering getting the LT5 running right. I asked about the ZR-1 wheels, he said they were sold previously.

I did not beat the guy up on price, as I thought he took it in the shorts on this project already.

I am only posting this because I think we should not bother him, as I think he would like nothing better than to totally forget his LT5 foray.

Thanks, Tim

[PhillipsLT5]

He offered and promised to sell me the wheels in Technical Post, My Last Effort, 4/7/14, post 8, whats in the dark will come to the light

[Karl]

I bought the car. I figured it would be a perfect candidate for a Big Block Chevy Swap that I have always thought about. It had a big rad, big brakes, coilovers, HD Trans & 11" wheels. I have a complete 496 BBC engine sitting in my garage already. I thought I might try tinkering getting the LT5 running right. I asked about the ZR-1 wheels, he said they were sold previously.

I did not beat the guy up on price, as I thought he took it in the shorts on this project already.

I am only posting this because I think we should not bother him, as I think he would like nothing better than to totally forget his LT5 foray.

Thanks, Tim


You are going to put a big block chevy in that ZR-1????

:nono:

But hey, its your car...just my opinion.

[alnukem]

Maybe????? We'll see how it goes.

[youngrm]

Alnukem,

If you decide to let the complete lt5 go I'd be interested.
Ric young

[XfireZ51]

Maybe????? We'll see how it goes.

What ECM and FI will u be using?

[alnukem]

What ECM and FI will u be using?

Dom, This is something I totally don't understand. Most of the conversions that I have read about have been mid-80's. probably due to the cheaper price of the earlier cars, they are very unloved. I know Lingenfelter did 3, I think they were 90's vintage cars.

I was going to put my 496 in a 70 LS5 car & was looking at using the "FAST" system, which is a stand alone, self tuning system.

If I can get this thing running correctly relatively easy, I probably won't even consider doing the BBC swap.

This was one of those things that I was going to do when my time was not so important, probably 3 years out. It just seemed like the perfect candidate at the right price.....an opportunity.

Any offhand suggestions?????? Thanks, Tim

[alnukem]

Alnukem,

If you decide to let the complete lt5 go I'd be interested.
Ric young

Ric....I will keep you in mind. But, If I was you, I would keep looking. I not the fastest at getting projects done.

[cvette98pacecar]

What ECM and FI will u be using?

ECM and FI? 1250 Dominator.

Tim, I like this idea. I have the perfect candidate and a 572 that is two hundred or so pounds lighter than the LT5.

ZR-2 BBC I like the idea.

[alnukem]

ECM and FI? 1250 Dominator.

Tim, I like this idea. I have the perfect candidate and a 572 that is two hundred or so pounds lighter than the LT5.

ZR-2 BBC I like the idea.

Robert.....The Tall Blocks just aggravate the fit. Although, you can get that in a standard height block, it just max's everything out.

If you're interested, let me know, I studied pretty good on it & have a bunch of links if you want.

They say a aluminum headed, intake & water pump BBC is only 80 heavier than a standard SBC.

I think after a certain horsepower, a BBC is downright cheap compared to a LT5

[XfireZ51]

If it was me, I would use an 84-85 C4 as my base. They don't have CCMs to deal w. My 84 Z51 weighed 3250 w fluids. So imagine throwing in a lightweight LSx motor. Then the EFI and the PCM selection would be pretty straightforward using something like the 411. No hood clearance issues. Just thinking out loud. This was something I considered before buying my ZR. At the time, it was a more difficult swap. But today, they have kits for this. I think ZF-Doc even has a way of bolting ZF to LSx motor. Maybe an LS7.
Then throw on a set of CROSSFIRE INJECTION belt line moldings. ;);)

[alnukem]

"Then throw on a set of CROSSFIRE INJECTION belt line moldings"

Talk about unloved! I'd have Prius's lining up with me. Funny!!!!!!

[youngrm]

Alnukem,
Thank you

No problem, my VD 368 has been out of the car for 3 years, I'm a slow
Mover as well.

It's funny that you want to put your BB into a zr1 and I want to
Put an LT5 into a BMW 850, we'll have to exchange some pics
If these projects come to fruition!

Take care
Ric young

[alnukem]

Just a note for people that might use this thread in troubleshooting their car, I did buy Mitsumark's car last year. At the end of the day, it was collapsed oil rings & damaged sleeves. To be fair, I believe this car was tracked pretty hard. We have decided to replace the sleeves, rings & bearings. A little additional porting work will be done & Pete's Stage 1 Exhaust cams will be added to the already there, Split Duration 228/238 Intake Cams. I Hope none of you end up at the same place, but it could have been worse!

[USAFPILOT]

cool once it is running right I'll give you 10k for it! i still think this was a super deal.

[alnukem]

cool once it is running right I'll give you 10k for it! i still think this was a super deal.

Thanks......You're a swell guy! lol.

I too still think it's a good deal. I'll have a rebuilt Ported 368 with cams & a free car with coil-overs & heim jointed suspension.....& how about this, the radio works!

The stigma of the previous builder & cams condition will be behind it.

It's kinda nice to know what is really in a engine, a lot of time the original owner looses specs, or the next guy. That info is going in a log that goes with the car.

[32valvesftw]

So why didn't the collapsed ring show up on the compression test, was it an oil control ring?

[alnukem]

So why didn't the collapsed ring show up on the compression test, was it an oil control ring?

Yes.

[32valvesftw]

Were you able to diagnose the issue with the engine in the car? or was it found during dis-assembly. I assume the oil consumption and smoking reappeared and then you decided to open it an see. If you can diagnose a bad oil ring the car I would like to know how you did it, for a future reference that I never hope to need

[alnukem]

I bought it knowing it had issues. I tried a few things unsuccessfully, gassed it up & drove it to Chicago to give it to someone who knows something. The Mechanic tried a few things & the decision was made to remove the engine. If you think you have this problem, one of the imports are known for it & it's pretty common to run Risolene or I think, GM Top End Cleaner. Please do your research first.

[32valvesftw]

Knock wood no problems on the Z. I was asking about a previous build that used a good deal of oil but has really good compression.

[alnukem]

With good compression, I believe typical suspects are valve guides/seals, oil rings, plenum leaks & gasket leaks.

[alnukem]

Just a update, it's up & running after sleeve/ring replacements. While we were there, the stock exhaust cams were replaced with Stage 1 ones, the upper was ported more aggressively & a x-pipe added. Waiting for spring for Tuning.

[XfireZ51]

Al,

I think you'll be pleased with Pete's exhaust cams, especially w the right tune.
Should be interesting to see how they work w the Split duration intakes.
W Xpipe, you want to look into using Z06 exhaust control valves.

[cvette98pacecar]

Tim, Thanks for the update.

[alnukem]

Al,

I think you'll be pleased Keith Pete's exhaust cams, especially w the right tune.
Should be interesting to see how they work w the Split duration intakes.
W Xpipe, you want to look into using Z06 exhaust control valves.

Yes.....I need another set.....please keep your eyes open. I have the same setup on the other 2. Thanks!

[alnukem]

Tim, Thanks for the update.

Robert....I did buy the Stage II car!

[cvette98pacecar]

Robert....I did buy the Stage II car!

Woo hoo, That will sure be fun to drive.