ZR-1 spyder Restore to original?

[ZZZZZR1]

Question:

Should GM restore the ZR-1 spyder to the original design / color?

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t199/pennstatefootball/chevrolet-corvette-zr-1-spyder-inline-2-photo-525830-s-original_zps86941c7b.jpg (http://s160.photobucket.com/user/pennstatefootball/media/chevrolet-corvette-zr-1-spyder-inline-2-photo-525830-s-original_zps86941c7b.jpg.html)

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I like the black / red of the one destroyed myself, but the original look is stunning too!

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t199/pennstatefootball/1993-ZR-1-Spyder-on-loan-from-General-Motors_zpsbbd8596a.jpg (http://s160.photobucket.com/user/pennstatefootball/media/1993-ZR-1-Spyder-on-loan-from-General-Motors_zpsbbd8596a.jpg.html)

:cheers:

David

[Blue Flame Restorations]

I'd vote for the black/red version, myself.

[LantanaTX]

In Silver it looks like a concept car. In black it looks more like a production car. Will this car be restored? any word on this?

[LGAFF]

I asked someone close to the museum if there was currently any thoughts of not fixing it; so far its sounds like they are all in to fix it.

I think the black and red looks better

[LGAFF]

Chopped windshield is awesome!

[ZZZZZR1]

Latest pictures of the spyder

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t199/pennstatefootball/136D17F5-65E5-442F-8A76-8ADE39B56CE5_zpsqfgnbyx9.jpg (http://s160.photobucket.com/user/pennstatefootball/media/136D17F5-65E5-442F-8A76-8ADE39B56CE5_zpsqfgnbyx9.jpg.html)

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[mike100]

I think I would only restore the cars that weren't completely demolished. Those smashed cars history with the sinkhole is pretty much the most exciting thing that ever happened to them seeing as how a couple of them never even got driven since the post-assembly test loop at the factory across the street.

[Schrade]

I think I would only restore the cars that weren't completely demolished. Those smashed cars history with the sinkhole is pretty much the most exciting thing that ever happened to them seeing as how a couple of them never even got driven since the post-assembly test loop at the factory across the street.

Good point.

WERE they ever driven? Parades? Were they ever started up regularly?

[cvette98pacecar]

Whether it is Silver/Yellow or Black/Red it is a piece of ZR-1 History. IMO it needs to be restored.

[efnfast]

Whether it is Silver/Yellow or Black/Red it is a piece of ZR-1 History. IMO it needs to be restored.

And part of it's history is it got squashed in a sink hole. Not sure how I feel about restoring these. Especially the really bad ones. It would almost be building a replica.

[ZR1North]

Whether it is Silver/Yellow or Black/Red it is a piece of ZR-1 History. IMO it needs to be restored.

I am with Bob; it's unimaginable that the Spyder wouldn't get restored - let the pictures tell the story of the sinkhole. Heart wrenching to see this much devastation. The LT5 looks like a work of art even with all those spoils on it!

[BigJohn]

It's a good little fixer upper; let's get to it!!!

[USAZR1]

Whatever it takes,the car should be restored.

[8cam]

There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of black/red cars in the world. And there are probably several hundred black/red ZR-1s. But I'd bet good money there aren't any silver/yellow cars of ANY kind. That original color scheme is incredible and is what a 1-of-1 car should be.

It should be silver/yellow in its original livery. Not even close.

[mgg]

Maybe they can lose those wheels and put something decent on it. Those wheels are looking incredible dated. NOt that they were earth shattering good looking when they came out. AN opportunity to improve the car. Just my opinion.

[Jagdpanzer]

Don't worry, it'll rub out

[Meanmyz]

I think there are things that they could do different to both color schemes that would make it hotter. The question is, would making changes, even just in color be sacrilege to the originals or a faux pas?

For example: with the silver and yellow, the idea may be good of only silver and yellow, but with the execution, I think that silver on all the interior switches, bezels, somehow cheapens the look. Yellow on certain pieces does the same.

The black and red doesn't stand out like it could either.

While I like the Spyder, I think Callaway's Speedsters have truly stood the test of time as awesome looking cars. Beautiful, tasteful, rich looking. If there wasn't such a thing as these Callaway cars and GM had only made one wild looking LT5 powered Speedster such as one of the ten Speedsters, or even the one LT5 LM dark red Speedster with top that recently went up for auction on the Mecum block, it would be so much easier to say "restore that car at all costs".

I don't know, we will see.

[BigJohn]

There are thirteen Callaway Speedsters!

[tf95ZR1]

Original.
It is what it was.
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It will be what it was?
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[Meanmyz]

Original.
It is what it was.
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It will be what it was?
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On that note, it probably should be silver and yellow.

[Meanmyz]

There are thirteen Callaway Speedsters!

10 L98 based
3 LT5 based?

or was there an LT1 Supernatural in there too?

[BigJohn]

10 L98 based
3 LT5 based?

or was there an LT1 Supernatural in there too?


10 original TT L98
2 Supernatural LT5 later were Twin Turboed
1 last TT L98 with 100+ package

[Schrade]

Original.
It is what it was.
:icon_scra
It will be what it was?
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Well put! I THINK...

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[taximan]

Its only original once. Put it on display as is, with a placard history of the sinkhole incident. It wont be the same with replacement parts.

[BigJohn]

Same what!
Like original air in tires!
Original battery!
Original gas, oil and antifreeze!
All this I have heard people brag about at car shows.
Replacement parts do not make any car not original!

[efnfast]

I think we're talking about replacement frame, replacement body, replacement interior, replacement everything except a wheel or two.

[BigJohn]

There are NCRS corvettes with replacement frames, replacement body parts and replacement interiors.

[mike100]

It is an interesting argument for sure, but if I had a say, I wouldn't want any of my donations/money to go towards rebuilding complete wrecks. It makes more sense to restore just the moderately damaged ones. I also like the idea of leaving them all smashed up and on special display.

Then there is personal bias...like for me, I don't have too much interest in the 93 ruby car- it's just a standard LT1 car and you could find another cherry replacement easier than repairing it if you ask me.

Then restoration guys are all about it to showcase their talents and resolve- although this might not be worthwhile financially unless GM or an insurance company subsidizes some cost.

At first I was thinking that such and such could be rebuilt and restored, but now that some time has passed, I realize that I don't have too much affection for any of those cars because they weren't mine, and some of them had no history of having been driven, raced, or anything other than sitting there looking shiny. I don't care what happens to them I guess.

[Blue Flame Restorations]

The Spyder won't require a replacement frame. You'd be surprised at how many original items will be used in the "restoration" of the car, including much of the suspension and the entire drivetrain.

[-=Jeff=-]

I think that when they remake the side gills they need to repro them for some of us...
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kdhFFFXvrcI/UvzIfDFk85I/AAAAAAAAFFo/PD3nICobKHw/w1119-h749-no/DSC_0159.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RdufGHYa0CY/UvzIn0pg4oI/AAAAAAAAFGo/xltCbo7UVXs/w1124-h749-no/dx6490_156.jpg

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Jeff, I have the template for these now.

[Hog]

We a l have to remember that all the materials that these precious cars are made of came out of the ground to begin with, then treated with heat/pressure and molded into the beauts they are.

Given enough time and money, with talented/skilled workers such as Brett and my Father and others, these cars can be fixed. And in some cases can be repaired better than when they originally came down the assembly line.

I understand how some people who dont know the ins and outs of collision work,/re building process throw their hands up and say "It cant be fixed like it was". But they can, they surely can.

If it was built once, it can be rebuilt again. Unfortunatley the Spyder's hood signatures cannot.

[RyanChappel]

It is what it is....

It will be what it was, not what it is..

[-=Jeff=-]

Jeff, I have the template for these now.

Cool, now you just need to add it to your list of cool things to make

I want a set (but need them for the 90 belt line)

[BigJohn]

Jeff, I have the template for these now.

Including the aluminum fins?

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Easy to make. Not cheap to do as a complete unit though