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USAZR1
01-19-2014, 06:53 PM
I know this has been long over-due but I just want to apologize with what happened with the former LT5 Registry to all of you that were former members. The responsibility is all mine and I just want to say I'm very sorry for letting everyone down. It has haunted me all these years and one way or another,I really want a chance to make amends,financially or otherwise. The ZR-1 brotherhood is a special group of people and all I ask is that opportunity to rejoin its membership. Some of you will never forgive and that's ok,I understand. Losing the friendship of so many has been a constant reminder but if possible,all I ask for is a fresh start. I know it's a lot to ask.
Sincerely,
Clint Hooper
Z06scentair
01-19-2014, 08:03 PM
People make mistakes in life, you've apologized for what ever you were responsible for. So in my eyes no harm no foul.
I was not involved during the time the registry dissolved, I'm new to this forum as of October 2013 when I purchased my ZR-1. While new to this Corvette, their in my blood my dad, brother, and myself own several corvettes each. We also own other numerous vehicles 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's.....you get the picture. I'm not new to automobiles.
Have yet you become a member not because of the money, but specifically due to the bickering I see going on. From 10k feet there seems to be a few that seem to sucker punch every chance they get. if this nonsense gets better I would be glad to contribute monetarily more than the charged amount of membership.
While not being totally fair, I must say that I have spoken on the phone, email, and social networking with several of the members here. These individuals have been extremely forthcoming with knowledge and help if needed.
One thing is for sure, there is lots of knowledge associated with the registry that needs to be kept strong and tightly bound, due to the lack of knowledge by myself and other new comers. I wish the best to everyone, and always willing to offer help in any way necessary to "long live the Corvette for generations to come."
Brad
Kevin
01-19-2014, 08:06 PM
you're right it is a lot to ask. if you're serious about making amends i'll send you my address and I'll wait for a check in the amount of dues and and extra shirt.
scottfab
01-19-2014, 08:15 PM
I've been a member since 1997 (of all the various incantations of the club) but frankly don't remember all of what happened. Forgetting is one of the perks of age. Having said that, I'm pretty sure I forgave long ago. :icon_scra
DDSLT5
01-19-2014, 08:20 PM
Clint,
The apology is appreciated, and frankly, necessary. I'm a firm believer in fresh starts and forgiveness. It's just the way I'm wired I guess. Although I would like to know the exact circumstances surrounding what happened some 10 years ago, I can also understand how this might be embarrassing and difficult to discuss.
To quote the great Curly Joe: "Hey Moe, everyone makes mistakes....that's why they put them little erasers on the ends of pencils!"
Some may not forgive your actions, but I'm not one. It takes a big man to admit his mistakes and ask forgiveness. Since I'm no longer a member of this club, I can't welcome you to the club - but I can offer you a welcome back to the brotherhood.
:cheers:
Scrrem
01-19-2014, 09:07 PM
Clint,
I have not been a very active member in the registry when it comes to its administration and didn't know of all of the details of which you speak. I simply enjoy the registry membership and have fun with my car. In my book anyone who publicly acknowledges his errors deserves another chance. The registry has seen some turbulant times recently and needs all the resources it can get. Welcome back to the brotherhood :cheers:.
Rich
We Gone
01-19-2014, 09:18 PM
Clint,
For the last 35 years I've had Corvettes, the last 12 I have always been impressed with those associated with the ZR-1 the most. As we travel through life we make choices some good some not so good ether way you can not go back and change them. Forgiving the bad is the hard part for some, I believe in forgive and forget life is to short.
Welcome back if I can help ya just ask, same goes for anyone in our group.
RICKYRJ1
01-19-2014, 09:25 PM
No apology needed for me because I was not a member. I do respect you coming on here and doing so though, takes a good man to try and make thing right. I have made many friends in this club and do my best to keep them. Good Luck in moving forward :saluting:
Ricky
A1990
01-19-2014, 09:30 PM
I am a forgiving person by nature. I would like full disclosure on what happened to the money that so many gave you, including myself. Especially now that you are buying a ZR-1 that most of the LT5 Registry members you took money from can't afford.
I am a forgiving person by nature. I would like full disclosure on what happened to the money that so many gave you, including myself. Especially now that you are buying a ZR-1 that most of the LT5 Registry members you took money from can't afford.
I think that's a reasonable request.
I also think it would be reasonable if the funds collected from LT5Registry members were openly accounted for and then donated to the ZR-1 Net Registry, a not for profit 501 3C corporation.
That would be a more meaningful atonement than an "Apology." No one would profit from the past circumstance or benefit from the donation, plus the funds would be used in the same context for which they were paid originally, the betterment of the ZR-1 community.
There is more to the story, but I see no need to drag it all out here.
A bit of advice, comments such as the following, are not taken well by those who were members of the LT5 Registry back then.
Prefer 18x10 & 18x12 sizing, must be ZR-1 offsets, mint or like-new condition preferred, will pay top dollar for right wheels
Clint
I'm willing to spend what it takes to buy a set.
I would gladly pay double that price for a new 18" set of the Shelby's.
DDSLT5
01-19-2014, 11:56 PM
I also think it would be reasonable if the funds collected from LT5Registry members were openly accounted for and then donated to the ZR-1 Net Registry, a not for profit 501 3C corporation.
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I don't think that would be reasonable at all. If my funds are to be used for any purpose, I'll be the one to decide what that will be. Should Clint decide to return funds, it should go back to those who paid the fees and nowhere else.
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I don't think that would be reasonable at all. If my funds are to be used for any purpose, I'll be the one to decide what that will be. Should Clint decide to return funds, it should go back to those who paid the fees and nowhere else.
Fair enough. My thoughts were more for all of those who can no longer be located to return the funds and probably make up the majority, considering how long its been.
xlr8nflorida
01-20-2014, 01:02 AM
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I don't think that would be reasonable at all. If my funds are to be used for any purpose, I'll be the one to decide what that will be. Should Clint decide to return funds, it should go back to those who paid the fees and nowhere else.
I agree with Dwight. I was a member then as well but no longer now (just like Dwight)
xlr8nflorida
01-20-2014, 01:06 AM
Whats up Dwight, long time no see :)
edram454
01-20-2014, 10:49 AM
I was a first a member in 2005. My deal fell through on my first zr1 so i left the form until November of last year when I finally purchased my zr1. I joined again this month. I dont know Clint. I have heard accusations but no real detail. I dont care to know any details at this point. I believe everybody at some point deserves a second chance except bernie madoff. It takes a lot to write what he wrote and it sounded sincere. the strength of this forum is the people and information it has.
I hope the rest of the membership accepts his apology and he joins again.
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ed ramos #3028
For those of us who mused the drama, can we get an briefing about what happened?
Kevin
01-20-2014, 03:32 PM
Larry Merrow ran the original ZR-1 registry and folded it after taking a boat load of money. Clint stepped up and started the lt5 registry. It had one maybe two good years and then it went downhill. He basically wanted to do everything by himself.
So year three there was only one newsletter, and then just promises of next month, and then another month. It has been so long ago that I can't even remember if the club gave you anything other than a newsletter.
Year four rolls around, and he has a membership drive and just disappears. so the club dissolves.
The story was that both Clint and his wife had health issues. No believe he said he had cancer and his wife had other health issues. But he was still posting on the hot rod forum about his pro touring El Camino, and had apparently bought a new Harley
scottfab
01-20-2014, 03:48 PM
My records show the last post from Clint to be Oct 29, 2002.
Larry Merrow ran the original ZR-1 registry and folded it after taking a boat load of money. Clint stepped up and started the lt5 registry. It had one maybe two good years and then it went downhill. He basically wanted to do everything by himself.
So year three there was only one newsletter, and then just promises of next month, and then another month. It has been so long ago that I can't even remember if the club gave you anything other than a newsletter.
Year four rolls around, and he has a membership drive and just disappears. so the club dissolves.
The story was that both Clint and his wife had health issues. No believe he said he had cancer and his wife had other health issues. But he was still posting on the hot rod forum about his pro touring El Camino, and had apparently bought a new Harley
DDSLT5
01-20-2014, 03:57 PM
My records show the last post from Clint to be Oct 29, 2002.
What is your point?
Kevin
01-20-2014, 04:04 PM
My records show the last post from Clint to be Oct 29, 2002.
what are you talking about?
Well, well, this has been a long time coming. Clint, I saw your posts over the past couple of months, and I gotta tell you, it made me angry that you popped back around, with no mention of what you did.
While I'm no longer a member of this club either, and haven't logged in nor posted in many moons (a whole 'nuther story), I appreciate you publicly mentioning your apology, and sure, I'll take a check for what I'm owed. Will it include interest? :eek:
QB93Z
01-20-2014, 04:11 PM
I am closing this thread until I can figure out what is going to happen from here. The issue that was being discussed has nothing to do with the ZR-1 Net Registry. All of the disputed transactions occurred before the ZR-1 Net Registry was founded.
Jim Voter
Forum Administrator
QB93Z
01-20-2014, 10:21 PM
After contact from Clint, I have decided to re-open this thread. Please keep the discussions civil.
Once again, the issues discussed here predate the formation of the ZR-1 Net Registry and have no connection to the Registry or the Registry's finances.
Jim
USAZR1
01-20-2014, 10:43 PM
Thank you,Jim. I certainly did not want to create a bunch of controversy with my post. After suffering a major heart attack last June,the added stress is something I can do without. So can everyone else.
If allowed,I would like to do two things. One,I would like to refund dues funds to those former LT5 Registry members that request them. It's only fair. If you will,please pm me with your mailing address so I can make a list to work off of. All I ask is a little more patience and it will get done.
Second,I would like to make some financial contributions to the Net Registry treasury. Will be glad to work with the appropriate person to see this happen.
Again,a little bit of patience and civility would be appreciated.
edram454
01-20-2014, 11:26 PM
It seems very fair. You certainly want to extend the olive branch and repair whatever happened in the past. I hope everybody else feels that way. Godspeed on your health. Well Done.
ed ramos #3028
efnfast
01-21-2014, 08:08 AM
This was before my time.
We all make bad decisions in life, it's how you handle them. Sounds like Clint stepped up.
Best luck with your health, hope this turns out for the good for all involved.
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