Carter, new part,I think.

[efnfast]

Hey Carter, I eliminated my TB coolant. I'm looking for something to plug the small line with. Dynomite has a nice shot of bling on his car. Just below the radiator tank, you can see he eliminated the tb coolant line and had to piece together a plug for the line. I'm looking for a one piece plug, maybe you already have something, I can't find anything anywhere. -Steve

[carter200]

Yea, I have seen many people do the conversion but not much eye apeal. I can machine you something that'll look cool but need specs. Wonder if anyone else would be interested in have a cool termination to that hose? Let me know what you need :cheers:

[Dynomite]

Yea, I have seen many people do the conversion but not much eye apeal. I can machine you something that'll look cool but need specs. Wonder if anyone else would be interested in have a cool termination to that hose? Let me know what you need :cheers:

Here we go again :D

Carter will AWAYS machine something better I can guarantee it.
What I have now is just a brass nipple that fits inside that rubber hose end with a brass cap on it. I am thinking it was a 3/8 inch brass nipple with a 3/8 inch male thread and a 3/8 inch cap screwed on.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/Dynomite4/e46769ac-4062-434b-a4aa-53d50317a380.jpg (http://s287.photobucket.com/user/dynomite007/media/Dynomite4/e46769ac-4062-434b-a4aa-53d50317a380.jpg.html)

His best yet is the fuel line bracket with 91 engraved and painted in red on one end and 87 on the other end (so I know what chip I have in ECM).....second best is his Oil filter aluminum slip on cover......

Carter is soooooo good at this Bling stuff it is unbelievable :handshak:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/Dynomite3/e432a450-3b35-4a8e-9c8c-75b433b4ac6f.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/Dynomite3/fe433474-92ce-4c78-a187-556259265a75.jpg

[efnfast]

The od of the hose is about 11/16th. Not sure of the id. I used a piece of 3/8" round stock and a heat shrink. The round stock is loose, but worked ok. I'm thinking something with a rounded head that would be the od of the hose. So, 11/16th od, with rounded off head, or something machined, and about a 3/8th" stem and some sort of barb to hold it in place. I can cut off the end of my hose with the round stock in it, I hate the way it looks, send it to you and see what you can come up with.
I bring this up in the general forum thinking others that have eliminated their tb coolant may be interested, or have a better idea.

[Dynomite]

The od of the hose is about 11/16th. Not sure of the id. I used a piece of 3/8" round stock and a heat shrink. The round stock is loose, but worked ok. I'm thinking something with a rounded head that would be the od of the hose. So, 11/16th od, with rounded off head, or something machined, and about a 3/8th" stem and some sort of barb to hold it in place. I can cut off the end of my hose with the round stock in it, I hate the way it looks, send it to you and see what you can come up with.
I bring this up in the general forum thinking others that have eliminated their tb coolant may be interested, or have a better idea.

Forgot to mention.....count me in :D
I will take a look and think of something interesting for engraving.........Maybe "COOL" ;)

I left about 2 inches of rubber hose on mine just in case my experiment did not work first try.
I will take a close up shot now for ya.....and size the hose and Carter will come up with something I am positive.
The ID of the hose is 3/8 inch fitting on a 3/8 OD Pipe nipple.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/Dynomite4/e46769ac-4062-434b-a4aa-53d50317a380.jpghttp://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/Dynomite3/8a1a3186-4648-4f90-b1fe-d4037b10d367.jpg

[efnfast]

Sorry Cliff, didn't mean to pick on your solution. If there is nothing commercially available, Carter MUST be able to knock something out. I bet he could even carve LT-5 or something in it.

[carter200]

Dynomite,
Thanks for the kind words. You're gonna make me blush :o.

Steve,
Go ahead and send me what you have and I'll come up with a cool alternative that will be economical, too.

Anyone else have some idea on what they need made just post up and let's see what can be done. You guys are great and thanks for the support.......:cheers:

[carter200]

Sorry Cliff, didn't mean to pick on your solution. If there is nothing commercially available, Carter MUST be able to knock something out. I bet he could even carve LT-5 or something in it.

That's the spirit! I bet I could engrave the ZR-1 splash on it, too......

[efnfast]

I'll just cut off the end of the hose with the round stock and heat shrink in tact. Same address I've used before?

[carter200]

I'll just cut off the end of the hose with the round stock and heat shrink in tact. Same address I've used before?

Yea, in Texas.....:dancing

[Dynomite]

Sorry Cliff, didn't mean to pick on your solution. If there is nothing commercially available, Carter MUST be able to knock something out. I bet he could even carve LT-5 or something in it.

Ha.....this happened to me before when I got creative but not up to snuff and Carter came up with something much better looking.....so I just create and fool around and wait for carter to make it right :D

Here is a REAL Example of KLUDGE :sign10: if our friend is listening :D

Carter.....Dude.... ;) As you can see I did not leave much rubber hose to work with but enough for some kind of plug.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/Dynomite3/8a1a3186-4648-4f90-b1fe-d4037b10d367.jpg (http://s287.photobucket.com/user/dynomite007/media/Dynomite3/8a1a3186-4648-4f90-b1fe-d4037b10d367.jpg.html)

[carter200]

Dyno,
I'll work some magic and replace that sow's ear......;)

[carter200]

I just finished the Bypass Plug for efnfast. In the mail to him tomorrow and hopefully he'll post up a pic before and after. Working on front sway bar relocation brackets, LT5 rear plate, billet throttle line brackets then a project for GC. :dancing

[WVZR-1]

I would think something similar to this one. Anything short of "barbed" similar to this I think might fall short. This is maybe an "incorrect" dimension but a correct ID I never did see mentioned. This one is 3/8".

http://dirtyhookerdiesel.com/images/M86760880.jpg

[XfireZ51]

I run the hoses as if they were operational.

[Dynomite]

I just finished the Bypass Plug for efnfast. In the mail to him tomorrow and hopefully he'll post up a pic before and after. Working on a LT5 rear plate next then a project for GC.

We need a photo and description of how it fits.......and size :thumbsup:

I would think something similar to this one. Anything short of "barbed" similar to this I think might fall short. This is maybe an "incorrect" dimension but a correct ID I never did see mentioned. This one is 3/8".

http://dirtyhookerdiesel.com/images/M86760880.jpg

The Hose ID is 3/8 inch fitting on a 3/8 inch OD pipe nipple.
You will find the 3/8 inch Aluminum Barbed Hose Plug here....... 3/8 inch Barbed Hose Plug (http://dirtyhookerdiesel.com/i-14902512-dhd-007-0312-aluminum-barbed-hose-plug-for-water-pump-bypas-tube-lbz-lmm-lml.html)

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/Dynomite4/5b488d11-1a18-44ce-b727-91113313f7be.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/Dynomite3/8a1a3186-4648-4f90-b1fe-d4037b10d367.jpg

I run the hoses as if they were operational.

What else are you faking :sign10:

I run my ZR-1 as if it were stock around CA Highway Patrol......

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/ls1c5guy/chp1.jpg

[efnfast]

Carter stuff just arrived. My plug, oil filter cover, oil filler cover, power steering and brake fluid. Gimme a minute, I'll get it installed.

[carter200]

Carter stuff just arrived. My plug, oil filter cover, oil filler cover, power steering and brake fluid. Gimme a minute, I'll get it installed.

PM me with your findings.....

[efnfast]

I used a Gates heat shrink for the plug. Looks the nuts. This is a must if you've eliminated the tb coolant.

[Dynomite]

Carter stuff just arrived. My plug, oil filter cover, oil filler cover, power steering and brake fluid. Gimme a minute, I'll get it installed.

Do you have a nice photo of that TB Coolant Plug Carter came up with I been waiting for ;)

And Carter.....Just look at my thread and make a Billet Oil Dip Stick Handle.....there is enough information there to crank (excuse me....turn) one out I am sure.....:D

AMSOIL 10W-40 Etched in Red Letters

See Item #3 LT5 Lubrication Tricks (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/3005470-tech-info-lt5-modifications-rebuild-tricks-500-hp.html#post1580467641)

[carter200]

Carter.....Just look at my thread and make a Billet Oil Dip Stick Handle.....there is enough information there to crank (excuse me....turn) one out I am sure.....:D

AMSOIL 10W-40 Etched in Red Letters

See Item #3 LT5 Lubrication Tricks (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/3005470-tech-info-lt5-modifications-rebuild-tricks-500-hp.html#post1580467641)

Cliff,
If you can would you PM efnfast and explain how to post a pic. Your dip stick handle is on the list but has a few customers ahead of it. Hang in there :p

[Dynomite]

I used a Gates heat shrink for the plug. Looks the nuts. This is a must if you've eliminated the tb coolant.

And a hose clamp?

[carter200]

Cliff,
I just emailed you a pic Efnfast sent me. It shows the Bypass Plug installed and the heat shrink wrap used as a clamp. Very clean, indeed! Can you post the pic here, thanks......:cheers:

[Dynomite]

Cliff,
I just emailed you a pic efnfast sent me. It shows the Bypass Plug installed and the heat shrink wrap used as a clamp. Very clean, indeed! Can you post the pic here, thanks......:cheers:

I will need (would like) two sent to CA. E-mail me total and Paypal. And when we are at it.... Some Etching......1991 etched on one and 1990 etched on the other in nice letters exactly like the Fuel Line Clamp....(as deep and as red). My top of this Hose Plug is vertical and easily seen beside the fuel line clamp. That would tell me right away which ZR-1 I am driving when I check the oil :D
With Heat Shrink

I used a Gates heat shrink for the plug. Looks the nuts. This is a must if you've eliminated the tb coolant.
I concur....that is the nuts :D

And explain to me exactly what heat shrink wrap (you said Gates) is tight enough to keep the coolant 15 psi from leaking out around the plug. Exactly what heat shrink wrap, where to get it, and exactly how it was applied :thumbsup:

Maybe too many Exactlys :sign10:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/Dynomite5/cd06be70-1fbf-432e-86e7-6cc3c51f075d.jpg

[efnfast]

I'll get the part number. I had the same heat shrink on a piece of 3/8" round stock and it worked fine. Now this plug of Carters has a couple of ribs, so I anticipate no issues. I hit it with a heat gun. -Steve

[Dynomite]

I'll get the part number. I had the same heat shrink on a piece of 3/8" round stock and it worked fine. Now this plug of Carters has a couple of ribs, so I anticipate no issues. I hit it with a heat gun. -Steve

Great idea :thumbsup:
Oreillys have gates heat shrink?

[efnfast]

Great idea :thumbsup:
Oreillys have gates heat shrink?

My mechanic gave it to me, I had never heard of it. He has them up to big, for regular radiator hoses. Just for us annal types.

[carter200]

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/Dynomite5/cd06be70-1fbf-432e-86e7-6cc3c51f075d.jpg

I concur....that is the nuts :D

Cliff,
I have you down for two of the Bypass Plugs with engraving.

I'm awaiting efnfast as he is providing me the part number for the heat shrink. I'll be offering the Bypass Plug with and without the heat shrink depending on the look you are going for. Price will be aded shortly.
Efnfast can chime in but the plug is NOT just a 3/8 plug. The plug is tight without the heat shrink as he can attest.

I would like to get at least 10 people signed up for this so post here if wanting one. Also state if you want engraving or heat shrink, too.

Thanks for your patience as I had to fit the R&D for this between jobs.

Pricing to be posted soon. :dancing

[efnfast]

Bertha is up and running, she's been quite for a while as my hose was open ended. The plug is a nice snug fit, better than the 3/8" round stock I was using with the heat shrink. Soon as she's up to temp and pressure I'll report back. This thing is so clean looking.....

[Dynomite]

Bertha is up and running, she's been quite for a while as my hose was open ended. The plug is a nice snug fit, better than the 3/8" round stock I was using with the heat shrink. Soon as she's up to temp and pressure I'll report back. This thing is so clean looking.....

Yep.....appreciate the research and idea....I am in for Heat Shrink also Carter :handshak:

Say....efnfast.....check your number 2 cylinder plug wire.....it looks like you did not push it in all the way ;)

[efnfast]

Up to temp and pressure, the fans just cycled. Good thing, my heater in the garage isn't keeping up with the door open.

Nice catch Cliff, aftermarket wires, they don't go in as far. Ask me about #8. -Steve

[efnfast]

Still looks good, no creep or anything. Gotta shut her down, gettin' kinda light headed in the garage. Sorry about all the dirt in the picture, I just cleaned it up a little.

[carter200]

Thanks efnfast for the leakage test and looks like we are good to go. Soon as I have the part number for the heat shrink I'll be able to research and give you guys a final price.

[efnfast]

Checked it again this morning, I did not start the car, just looked for creeping of the plug. None.

[Dynomite]

Checked it again this morning, I did not start the car, just looked for creeping of the plug. None.

Hot Dang........:D......Steve....you are DAMAN.... What did you use to apply the heat?

I learned something here for sure....a very nifty way of installing a plug in a small hose where moderate water pressures are involved.....or use on radiator hoses :thumbsup:

That Gates Shrink Tube (Gates Power Grip Clamps) seems pretty tough stuff :p

Gates Power Grip Clamps (http://www.jegs.com/p/Gates/Gates-Power-Grip-Clamps/943359/10002/-1)

Looks like a Gates 465-32915 or 465-32919 or 465-32922 Gates Power Grip Clamp.
I took my calipers out and yep .68 more or less as rubber is hard to measure. Now that is right on 11/16 inch so which Gates Power Grip do we use? The one that goes from 1/2 to 11/16 (465-32915) or the one that goes from 11/16 to 13/16 (465-32919)? The first one might not fit on the hose and the last one might be too lose :D

You can also find them on Ebay...for 1/4 inch hose, 3/8 inch hose, or 1/2 inch hose......and larger.

Gates 465-32915 Power Grip Clamp (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=gates+power+grip+clamps&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xgates+pow er+grip+clamps+32915&_nkw=gates+power+grip+clamps+32915&_sacat=0)

Gates 465-32919 Power Grip Clamp (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xga tes+32919&_nkw=gates+32919&_sacat=0&_from=R40)

Gates 465-32922 Power Grip Clamp (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xga tes+32922&_nkw=gates+32922&_sacat=0&_from=R40)

[efnfast]

Cliff, if memory serves, 11/16th od. Not 100% sure of that.
Those appear to be the clamps.
Used an electric heat gun, I think the last time I used a propane torch. I recommend the heat gun.

[Dynomite]

Cliff, if memory serves, 11/16th od. Not 100% sure of that.
Those appear to be the clamps.
Used an electric heat gun, I think the last time I used a propane torch. I recommend the heat gun.

Thank You Steve.....:thumbsup:
Is there a part number on your Gates Power Grip Clamp....I am guessing it is 32919???

I took my calipers out and yep .68 more or less as rubber is hard to measure. Now that is right on 11/16 inch so which Gates Power Grip do we use? The one that goes from 1/2 to 11/16 (465-32915) or the one that goes from 11/16 to 13/16 (465-32919)?
The first one might not fit on the hose and the last one might be too lose :D

As I recall...flyin ryan used these Gates Power Grip Clamps on Radiator Hoses.....but it did not sink in back then as to the smooth look and effectiveness of these clamps on Radiator Hoses :p

I will now try to find that flyin ryan post.....could not find flyin ryan post but here is another post on using Gates Power Grip Clamps for radiator hoses.
Gates Power Grip Clamps used as Coolant System Hose Clamps (http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16014&highlight=gates+clamps)

[carter200]

The Bypass Plug pricing is as follows:

Bypass Plug - $20 shipped
Bypass plug with Heat shrink hose clamp - $25 shipped
Bypass Plug engraving is additional $8 - $10 (depending on engraving)

PM or email me for payment info.

Thanks and appreciate you support, Carter200 (CT Machining)

[efnfast]

Thanks Carter, I can't express enough how much better this plug looks than anything else I've seen. (No, I am not a paid spokesman, I just play one on tv).

[carter200]

Thanks Carter, I can't express enough how much better this plug looks than anything else I've seen. (No, I am not a paid spokesman, I just play one on tv).

Efnfast,
Thanks for your assistance on this project. I really like it and hope many others will to. Stay warm, Carter :cheers:

[carter200]

Cliff,
Paypal payment received for 2 Bypass Plugs with heat shrink clamps and 1990/1991 engraving. :dancing

[Dynomite]

Cliff,
Your dip stick handle is on the list but has a few customers ahead of it. Hang in there :p

I would think the Billet Aluminum Dipstick Handle would be of interest :thumbsup:

a. The original plastic is often cracked and hard to see.
b. The original plastic handle is easy to remove from the metal dip stick with a hammer :D
c. The New Carter Billet Dipstick Handle can be easily attached to existing metal dip stick.
d. The New Carter Billet Dipstick Handle can have etched the exact engine oil used.
e. The original Dipsticks are hard to find if a replacement is needed.
f. The New Carter Billet Dipstick Handle would be easy to see and match other Carter Bling.
g. If you change your mind on the etching, just get another Billet Aluminum Dipstick Handle and replace.
h. And Last but Not Least.......there might be lots of LT5 Dipsticks available that have otherwise been discarded because the original Plastic Handles are cracked.

And Carter.....TO MAKE SURE YOU DO NOT FORGET :sign10:

AMSOIL 10W-40 Etched in Red Letters on the Billet Aluminum Dipstick Handle.

See Item #3 LT5 Lubrication Tricks (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/3005470-tech-info-lt5-modifications-rebuild-tricks-500-hp.html#post1580467641)

[carter200]

The Bypass Plug pricing is as follows:

Bypass Plug - $20 shipped
Bypass plug with Heat shrink hose clamp - $25 shipped
Bypass Plug engraving is additional $8 - $10 (depending on engraving)

PM or email me for payment info.

Thanks and appreciate you support, Carter200 (CT Machining)


Nobody is interested in this????

[Dynomite]

Nobody is interested in this????

A few of us Block Off TB Coolant. Most of those that do Block Off TB Coolant Bypass TB Coolant using the TB Heat Bypass Line (http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20Web/products/throttle%20body%20heat%20bypass.htm) made by Marc Haibeck or similar hose that accomplishes the Coolant Bypass of the TB. This leaves the Coolant flow to the Coolant overflow tank in front of the passenger side Intact. This reduces the fear of an Air Locked Water Pump.

That leaves only a very small handful (less than a handful actually) that blocked Off TB Coolant as well as Plenum Coolant (Top of Injector Housing Coolant Port). A Total of six Allen Head 1/8 inch pipe plugs are used. The Coolant Flow Path through the Plenum has nothing to do with Cooling the Plenum but only a route for Coolant to/from the TB and a vent for the air trapped in the Injector Housing Coolant Manifolds and Water Pump. And.........that coolant flow through the TB has nothing to do with cooling the TB but rather heating the TB. Only this very small handful of ZR1 owners would need the Coolant Bypass Plug described herein.

I have experimented with the Air Locked Water Pump and have found a fool proof way of eliminating that issue once and for all. My Plenum can come off at any time in minutes with NO Coolant draining or spilled. But I digress here :sign10:

[efnfast]

I'm surprised this wasn't a bigger hit.

[carter200]

I just finished the Bypass Plug for efnfast. In the mail to him tomorrow and hopefully he'll post up a pic before and after. Working on front sway bar relocation brackets, LT5 rear bumper plate, billet throttle line brackets then a project for GC. :dancing

Finished the front sway bar relocation brackets and the LT5 rear bumper plate (painting it tonight) and will start on the billet throttle lines brackets next.

GC, We're getting close to your items :cheers:

I have a few of the Pypass Plugs done and ready for mailing when you guys are ready for the bling :dancing

[USAZR1]

Finished the LT5 rear bumper plate (painting it tonight)


Can you tell us more about this item,Carter?

[efnfast]

Can you tell us more about this item,Carter?

Yeah, yeah!!

[carter200]

Can you tell us more about this item,Carter?

I'll post a pic of it tomorrow. It is the same size as the zr-1 bumper emblem and the LT5 and the bowtie are also the same size. I was asked to make one and did. Painting in the engraving tonight then I'll take some pics and see if I can get it posted so you can see.

Thanks for asking, Carter ;)

[USAZR1]

I'll post a pic of it tomorrow. It is the same size as the zr-1 bumper emblem and the LT5 and the bowtie are also the same size. I was asked to make one and did. Painting in the engraving tonight then I'll take some pics and see if I can get it posted so you can see.

Thanks for asking, Carter ;)


Did you make some for Dennis Derr? I saw those on his 93 ZR-1 and liked the look.

[Franke]

Did you make some for Dennis Derr? I saw those on his 93 ZR-1 and liked the look.

Me too.:wink: Go Carter go.

[Dynomite]

Me too.:wink: Go Carter go.
Me also I think............Go Get Em Carter :handshak:

You do know I will need duplicate of everything when I drop my Crate 95' engine in another ZR-1 :p

[carter200]

Did you make some for Dennis Derr? I saw those on his 93 ZR-1 and liked the look.

Yes, I made those and a few other items for him, too.

[carter200]

Me also I think............Go Get Em Carter :handshak:

You do know I will need duplicate of everything when I drop my Crate 95' engine in another ZR-1 :p

Cliff,
I'll be ready and to let you know I have your Billet Bypass Plugs done and ready for the engraving. Should mail out on Friday..... :-D

[carter200]

Here is the LT5 bumper plate I'm now making:

3260

3261

PM me for price and payment info. Thanks, Carter200 :cheers:

The plate is shiny like the throttle body plate but does not reflect that in the pics. Thickness is .120 -.130

[USAZR1]

Carter,can you post a photo of the ZR-1 fender emblems? Those are what I saw on Dennis's car.

What's the best way to get the factory emblems off the car w/o screwing up the paint?

[carter200]

Here are pics of the billet fender emblems:


3262

3263

3264

Cliff,
The best way I heard was with dental floss and saw your way back and forth while pull along the emblem.

[USAZR1]

Very nice work as usual,Carter.

[Franke]

Here is the LT5 bumper plate I'm now making:

3260

3261

PM me for price and payment info. Thanks, Carter200 :cheers:

The plate is shiny like the throttle body plate but does not reflect that in the pics. Thickness is .120 -.130

Carter, Thanks again for making the rear LT5 plate. Here is what it looks like on the car. I like it. We'll see if anyone notices it.

[Dynomite]

Carter.........How about a quote on everything for a ZR1?
Covers for coolant (overflow and surge), break reservoir, power steering, wiper fluid, oil filter. And. TB coolant cover etched (all civers etched as before) with AMSOIL on filter cover.
And maybe something I forgot :D

[Franke]

Carter.........How about a quote on everything for a ZR1?
Covers for coolant (overflow and surge), break reservoir, power steering, wiper fluid, oil filter. And. TB coolant cover etched (all civers etched as before) with AMSOIL on filter cover.
And maybe something I forgot :D

Dyno, I think I'm gonna have to take a trip up to South Dakota to see this collection of cars some day.

[carter200]

Dynomite,
I'll PM you shortly. Thanks, Carter :cheers:

[carter200]

Carter, Thanks again for making the rear LT5 plate. Here is what it looks like on the car. I like it. We'll see if anyone notices it.

Frank,
Thanks for posting the pic and it looks great! I'm currently working with Frank on a new item that I know you guys and gals will love. It'll be unvailed after I finish a few projects that are in front of this one.
Keep us posted on people's responses. Thanks again, Carter :dancing