Installed No Flex Frame Stiffener Bar System

[ZZZZZR1]

Very interesting day yesterday....


Installed a new No Flex Frame Stiffener Bar System and to be honest I was very skeptical before installing it. Saw it 2 years ago and wondered "IF" it would make a huge difference.

Finished installing the kit about 8pm and drove around for about an hour after it. My car did have a little squeaking and rattling (it has 82k miles) and after, MINIMAL.... Turns were much tighter!

Need to drive it much more extensively and play with the tightening bars more.

So far, very impressed!

http://www.vette2vette.com/product/86-96-c4-no-flex-frame-stiffener-bar-system


I did call the makers of the no flex system and they are interested in giving a system away @ Corvettes of Carlisle! So another reason to come to Carlisle! More free bee's!

They said they would also do a group buy once or twice a year as well (Just for us)

:cheers:

David

[-=Jeff=-]

Jason is a great guy. Have known him for a long time.. I still have the prototypes on my car

[ZZZZZR1]

Jason is a great guy. Have known him for a long time.. I still have the prototypes on my car

What's your impression of the system?

Huge improvement?

:cheers:

David

[-=Jeff=-]

Love it. Made a big difference the moment I drive it. I have had it for 4 years now I think.. forgot what life was like without it

[Z51JEFF]

Any pictures of this on the car and does it hang down too much?

[-=Jeff=-]

Can you see it in this picture?
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/nRjlQ-xkeY9p0Yp1dVu_YQr92nP6wI67Zq-aZKWLVvk=w622-h348-p-no

[XfireZ51]

Jason is a great guy. Have known him for a long time.. I still have the prototypes on my car

Jason is a really good Corvette guy. Visited his place the other day picking up some parts for my interior conversion. This may be something to look into. Wonder if it makes any difference in putting power down at the track?

[-=Jeff=-]

You guy do know that Gordon Killebrew designed it right?

[XfireZ51]

You guy do know that Gordon Killebrew designed it right?

Speaking to Jason, I didn't get the impression it was Killebrew?

[-=Jeff=-]

Speaking to Jason, I didn't get the impression it was Killebrew?
Interesting.. what did Jason say?

[Z51JEFF]

Can you see it in this picture?
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/nRjlQ-xkeY9p0Yp1dVu_YQr92nP6wI67Zq-aZKWLVvk=w622-h348-p-no

I can see the end links but some black paint would fix that.

[-=Jeff=-]

pictures of the prototypes on my car

https://plus.google.com/photos/101338012938494992078/albums/5487482834896876721?banner=pwa

[ZZZZZR1]

Speaking to Jason, I didn't get the impression it was Killebrew?

Jason makes them now

Killebrew created the flex system and turned it over
Jason to sell

:cheers:

David

[-=Jeff=-]

Jason makes them now

Killebrew created the flex system and turned it over
Jason to sell

:cheers:

David

Right.. That is What I knew about it when i got mine in 2010, I thought it was 2009..

been a long while

[XfireZ51]

Right.. That is What I knew about it when i got mine in 2010, I thought it was 2009..

been a long while

Jason did say that a GM employee had designed this and offered it to GM but that they rejected it so as not to pay that person royalties. That person had already been collecting other royalties for some other improvement. Maybe it's my memory but I just don't recall the name being Killebrew. Again, I can be totally wrong on that and wouldn't be surprised if I am.

[Bob Eyres]

I'm not clear on what it ties together, and how it works. Do you have a diagram? Weight? Thanks.

[GOLDCYLON]

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12164&highlight=frame

This might clear up some questions. Id be a playa on this mod if I didnt have those pesky enlonged nazi speed humps in my hood.

[XfireZ51]

I'm not clear on what it ties together, and how it works. Do you have a diagram? Weight? Thanks.

Bob,

The hypothesis behind this is that the front and back flex relative to each other, not side to side torquing or twisting that is the issue. So the helps the chassis keep from folding on itself along the width of the car. Basically augmenting what the targa top does now when in place.

[-=Jeff=-]

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12164&highlight=frame

This might clear up some questions. Id be a playa on this mod if I didnt have those pesky enlonged nazi speed humps in my hood.

these parts are not the lowest point, the trans is...

I have the rockers off, might be a good time for a few pictures

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Thanks for posting and reminding me to install these that I bought several years ago when Jeff posted. I'm going to make time this weekend after finally having some time. A few weeks ago I was in the Phoenix area and did the Z06 Experience at Bondurant (C7 Stingray did not arrive in time) and what a blast it was to drive that car. I want to stiffen up the chassis and will also add the Brey Krause harness bar with harness too. I think it will complement the DRM coilovers and other rear suspension mods to get all these parts off the shelf so gotta get off my arse. Thanks again for the motivation and reminder.

Craig

[Tyler Townsley]

I really think these should have been a part of the ZR-1 package. The motor has so much HP that hammering the throttle twists the frame and causes the positraction to react further amplifying the problem. I believe this sets in motion a back and forth momentum in the chassis that prevents low speed hookup. Once the car finally dampens this motion it then can really start to roll. JMHO,

Tyler

[efnfast]

I really think these should have been a part of the ZR-1 package. The motor has so much HP that hammering the throttle twists the frame and causes the positraction to react further amplifying the problem. I believe this sets in motion a back and forth momentum in the chassis that prevents low speed hookup. Once the car finally dampens this motion it then can really start to roll. JMHO,

Tyler
Yup, just experianced that. In first gear, it was hop hop hop, chirp chirp chirp. Think these would help that?

[Dynomite]

Yup, just experianced that. In first gear, it was hop hop hop, chirp chirp chirp. Think these would help that?

Old hard rubber tires .......hop hop hop, chirp chirp chirp :p

Maybe time for some new rubber ;)

Discount Tire (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/assignTireVehicle.do?yr=1991&mk=CHEVROLET&selectedModel=CORVETTE&vid=005923)

FRONT............................................. .........................REAR
Nitto NT 555 Extreme Performance..................................Nitto NT 555R Drag Radial
P275/40ZR-17 98W............................................... ......315/35R-17 102V B
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/ZR1%20Modified/NittoNT555.jpg.................................... .............http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/ZR1%20Modified/NittoNT555R.jpg

[efnfast]

Fairly new rubber, two years old, but new found power. Ported plenum and IH.

[Tyler Townsley]

Yup, just experianced that. In first gear, it was hop hop hop, chirp chirp chirp. Think these would help that?

Yes.

Tyler

[XfireZ51]

Yes.

Tyler

Tyler,

So you think these would help the ZR "bite" better at the track? And w more power, getting it to the ground gets more problematic. Is that why the ZR appears to accelerate stronger in the second half of the 1/4?

[Tyler Townsley]

Tyler,

So you think these would help the ZR "bite" better at the track? And w more power, getting it to the ground gets more problematic. Is that why the ZR appears to accelerate stronger in the second half of the 1/4?

Just using 60 ft times you can see there is something going on, the only car I know of that solved that was Fastlane and he went with a Ford 9 inch which would resist the torqueing better. The only other solution would be a computer controlled traction control and even then I think the flex would still be a problem.

Tyler

[aafc]

Jeff,
With your black ZR-1 the mounting bolts show up. You could just paint them
black ,or install 49th street rockers to hide the front and rear mounting bolts.
I drag race my Zr-1 and my 60ft. times avg. 1.73 to 1.78 , 1/4 mile times
avg 11.65 to 11.72 @ 118- 120 mph. I might have to look into frame stiffener
bar system.
John Becker
1990 white/black # 2546
one of a few auto (4l80E ) eq. ZR-1's

[-=Jeff=-]

Yeah, I have the rockers waiting to get painted

[aafc]

I ordered the no flex frame stiffener for my 1990 auto eq. zr-1 on Dec.
17. 2013. installation was completed on the 21 of Dec on a 4 post lift.It took
a little longer then what the instructions said. Front brackets took about
20 mins to install. The rear brackets took a bit longer because i have DRM
c4 trailing arm brackets installed. the lower dog leg had to be moved to gain
access to the lower trailing arm bracket bolt.
After installing the rear frame stiffener bracket and bolt, torque the assembly
to 80 lbs. The lower dog leg was reinstalled and ride height checked.
Without adjusting the frame stiffener i jacked up the car at the right front
(about 5in off the ground) i could not open the doors. lowered the car tighten
the frame stiffener bars and raised the right front again, i could open the door.
Took the z for a ride Sunday the 22nd, car felt more stable without body
flex.
I drag race my z and have pulled 60ft times of 1.73 to 1.79 running 11.69
to 11.76 @ 117-119 mph. Next test and tune will be Jan 4, 2014, I'll
you know how this works out.

Merry Christmas
John Becker

member #0115

[XfireZ51]

I ordered the no flex frame stiffener for my 1990 auto eq. zr-1 on Dec.
17. 2013. installation was completed on the 21 of Dec on a 4 post lift.It took
a little longer then what the instructions said. Front brackets took about
20 mins to install. The rear brackets took a bit longer because i have DRM
c4 trailing arm brackets installed. the lower dog leg had to be moved to gain
access to the lower trailing arm bracket bolt.
After installing the rear frame stiffener bracket and bolt, torque the assembly
to 80 lbs. The lower dog leg was reinstalled and ride height checked.
Without adjusting the frame stiffener i jacked up the car at the right front
(about 5in off the ground) i could not open the doors. lowered the car tighten
the frame stiffener bars and raised the right front again, i could open the door.
Took the z for a ride Sunday the 22nd, car felt more stable without body
flex.
I drag race my z and have pulled 60ft times of 1.73 to 1.79 running 11.69
to 11.76 @ 117-119 mph. Next test and tune will be Jan 4, 2014, I'll
you know how this works out.

Merry Christmas
John Becker

member #0115

John,

Very interested to hear if this makes any difference in getting power to the ground.

[efnfast]

Please, keep us up to speed on this. Thanks.

[ZZZZZR1]

I ordered the no flex frame stiffener for my 1990 auto eq. zr-1 on Dec.
17. 2013. installation was completed on the 21 of Dec on a 4 post lift.It took
a little longer then what the instructions said. Front brackets took about
20 mins to install. The rear brackets took a bit longer because i have DRM
c4 trailing arm brackets installed. the lower dog leg had to be moved to gain
access to the lower trailing arm bracket bolt.
After installing the rear frame stiffener bracket and bolt, torque the assembly
to 80 lbs. The lower dog leg was reinstalled and ride height checked.
Without adjusting the frame stiffener i jacked up the car at the right front
(about 5in off the ground) i could not open the doors. lowered the car tighten
the frame stiffener bars and raised the right front again, i could open the door.
Took the z for a ride Sunday the 22nd, car felt more stable without body
flex.
I drag race my z and have pulled 60ft times of 1.73 to 1.79 running 11.69
to 11.76 @ 117-119 mph. Next test and tune will be Jan 4, 2014, I'll
you know how this works out.

Merry Christmas
John Becker

member #0115

John

Ran I to the same issues (I have the DRM trailing arm brackets). I think there should be better instructions made....

I still need to fine tune the bolts and make it even stiffer

Satisfied? I'm very satisfied so far. Can't wait till the summer

:cheers:

David

[-=Jeff=-]

I would suggest you send the suggestions to vette2vette for him to possibly update the instructions

[Tony Davila]

Just ordered mine :icon_boun...... I can't wait,
now I just need a roll bar too.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i66/Zrace1/More%20Z%20pics/anim_snl_bounce.gif

[key_on]

I ordered one today also. Will install it soon, but it will be awhile before I can drive it to know how much it helps. I don't expect the roads around here to be salt free for quite some time.

[aafc]

UP date,
Email vette to vette to let them know about DRM trailing arm brackets, during
the install of the c4 no flex frame stiffener.Asked how many turns do you
make on the bars?
Test and tune this Jan 2014 will be Fri Jan 3 from 6pm till 10pm. and then
Sunday fun day on the 5th of JAN 10AM TILL 5PM.
The ZR -1 is ready to go.
John Becker
1990 ZR-1 white/black #2546
one of a few auto (4l80E) eq. Zr-1's
member #0115

[aafc]

Well i hit the track this past Sunday with the frame stiffener bars in place.
Made 5 runs, temp was between 71 to 80 deg, good bite , air was good but not
great. With the bars in place the car hooked good but did not improve 60ft.
times. 60ft. times for all 5 runs ranged from 1.74 to 1.76 , 1/8 mile E.T. time
from 7.66 to 7.68 with mph between 92.84 slowest to 93.05 fastest.
The quickest 1/4 mile run was 11.87 @ 116.70 and the slowest run was
11.93 @ 108.53. I have to say that the bars did a good job, the the car ran
straight and steady. If you want to see a run ( 2nd run of the day ) Go to
www.raceosw.com, click on photos and video ,click on OSW Funday Sunday
01-05-2014, page 2 4th row down 3rd pic,click on on photo for full page
shot. Note that i still have the stock front tires on not the skinny tires.
Thats about it , i need to go outside and cover my stag horn plant as the
temp will drop to 32 deg or lower tonight.
Next time out i will have the skinny tires on the car.
John
1990 white/black #2546
one of a few auto (4l80E ) eq ZR-1's

[Bob Eyres]

John- I see the photo. Is there any video?
Besides the automatic, what are the mods on your car? Gears? Tires? Stall speed? Have you taken any weight out of the car?
I've got a similar car (see below), and I've always thought that an automatic would improve the qtr. mi. times by getting a better launch.
My stick shift car has done a best e.t. (12.06)- .13 slower, but 9mph faster. @117, with a 60ft. time, (1.76), under similar conditions.

So, in a hypothetical race, they launch the same and are even at the 60ft. mark. At mid track you're pulling away. In the traps I'm catching up but not enough to catch you. And you win by what? 2-3 car lengths? Interesting. It looks like the auto is allowing a good consistent launch, but is taking away some h.p. at the other end of the track.

I doubt if the stiffener bars help in the qtr. mi. Probably more suited to a road course where the stiffened chassis would keep your tires planted better. What do you think?

BTW, the weather in Fla. now is like the Chicago guys get in the Fall, probably ideal for making power. I'd bet you could pull an 11.75 in this cold air with the same setup, if the car hooks on a cold track.
We've got to race some day....but I'd better find some more H.P. first. :cheers:

[Bob Eyres]

Well, Duh. I just re-read your post and see that I was looking at your slowest run, not fastest.:merror:
It looks like we're trapping at roughly the same speed, but your e.t. is almost two tenths quicker. Looks like the auto helps in the qtr. mi., but not just at the launch.
I still want to race, but I better go see Haibeck first. :thumbsup:

[aafc]

Hi Bob,
Mods are SGC 368 550hp engine pkg with stage one cams, 3.73 rear gears
jeal headers,front sway bar removed. lite weight racing seat (driver)
4-point roll bar from DRM with swing out door bar. Relocated batt to rear
pass side. Motor makes 418 rwhp thru the 4l80E trans, do not remember what
the rwtq numbers are.
I think the frame stiffener bars made the car leave better. AS it appears to
raise the car up and out and not make the rear squat down.
Go to personal racing stories, check out "a little test and tune ".
I foot brake at 1600-1800 rpm when leaving the line.
Some time this week i will change out the front stock tires and rims for the
pro street tires and 6in wide modified 1990 rims.
If you can make Orlando Speed World on the 18th of Jan. Its $10 to race
and free BBQ. Check their web site www.raceosw.com for information.
John
1990 white/black #2546
one of a few auto(4l80E) eq. ZR-1's

[Kevin]

I drove daves car with these installed and wow what a difference

[Fully Vetted]

I'll be putting mine on as soon as I get the car back from Corey. Looks to be a pretty simple install.

[Bob Eyres]

I doubt that these bars affect the 60ft. times on the average ZR-1, because it seems to me that the only flex that would affect rear-end geometry is if there were frame flex longitudinally between the rear end center section, and the front mounting points of the trailing arms, (which is not a great distance). Isn't that what the Rippie trailing arm brackets are for? To create ideal rear end geometry at launch?
In fact, the entire bar assembly is mounted forward of the rear-end center section. And although it affects overall chassis stiffness significantly, does not really affect rear-end geometry.

It's clear that the affect of these bars would be much more noticeable on a road course where overall chassis rigidity comes into play to a greater degree.

Any chassis engineers out there? My main question is: Do the bars do a better job of stiffening the frame than a four point cage would?
Or, would a combination of the two be the best of all worlds.

My thinking is that neither would improve the drag racing launch significantly enough to incur the penalty of increased weight, (and cost). And, so far, no one has presented any data that suggests otherwise.

[Tony Davila]

Did the same install last year on my Z. Now I need two more sets for my GS and wifey's car. It is worth your effort to get one.:thumbsup:

[Kevin]

price is a bit steep for me. if I could find a set for ~$350 i'd be all over it. $500 is a bit high.

[Bob Eyres]

price is a bit steep for me. if I could find a set for ~$350 i'd be all over it. $500 is a bit high.

That's just what I was thinking

[Kevin]

wonder if we can get another GB going. Considering talking to them at carlise

[-=Jeff=-]

Will they be there? I still have the prototypes on my car

[Kevin]

Will they be there? I still have the prototypes on my car

I thought I remembered seeing their tent there

[Scrrem]

I'd be in for a GB if it would lower the price.
Rich

[ZZZZZR1]

I'd be in for a GB if it would lower the price.
Rich

I'll check into it!

:cheers:

David

[Paul Workman]

Are they steel or ??

[-=Jeff=-]

Steel.. I forget the spec.. Call Jason at V2V. I feel they are worth it

[Kevin]

I'll check into it!

:cheers:

David

That would be cool. I'd love to save a few bucks on them

[ZZZZZR1]

Group guy came out!!!!!

Please check the members only section for details!

:cheers:

David

[KJL]

Where may one find the members only section?

[Fully Vetted]

Great. I just bought mine 6 weeks ago ;(

[efnfast]

I can never navigate to the members only section. :(

[efnfast]

Sorry, I found it. I'm in it.

[ZZZZZR1]

Great. I just bought mine 6 weeks ago ;(

Dave,

Jason will count your system as one of the 10 needed.


If we get the #'s, you will get credited.

:cheers:

David

[Kevin]

Where may one find the members only section?

if you're a member of the registry you should have access to it here

[Fully Vetted]

Dave,

Jason will count your system as one of the 10 needed.


If we get the #'s, you will get credited.

:cheers:

David

Awesome. Thanks

[efnfast]

if you're a member of the registry you should have access to it here
Thanks Kevin, I do. DUH.

[KJL]

I know I am a member of this forum but not sure about the registry. Could you please elaborate?

[GOLDCYLON]

I know I am a member of this forum but not sure about the registry. Could you please elaborate?


Your a member of the registry if you are a "paying" member. Otherwise you are just a forum member which is free. GC

[KJL]

OK, so this deal is only available to paying members? Is this typical?

How do I become a paying member? I thought there was a difference but had difficulty finding where to join the registry.

[Kevin]

OK, so this deal is only available to paying members? Is this typical?

How do I become a paying member? I thought there was a difference but had difficulty finding where to join the registry.

Registry remembers have access to some special offers on floor mats, parts, ect. http://www.zr1netregistry.com/Join.aspx is where you join, we'd be happy to have you as a member :)

[KJL]

OK, this is actually getting funny, so I joined and paid the 45.00 and tried to use the same name and PW I use for the forum but it rejected my password. I selected a new password and registered. I checked the Members Only drop down but could not find any info regarding the frame stiffening kit. When I returned to the forum, it rejected my new password but accepted my old one. Not sure what is going on at the moment but I really am feeling like an idiot right now, obviously i am missing something here.

[Kevin]

OK, this is actually getting funny, so I joined and paid the 45.00 and tried to use the same name and PW I use for the forum but it rejected my password. I selected a new password and registered. I checked the Members Only drop down but could not find any info regarding the frame stiffening kit. When I returned to the forum, it rejected my new password but accepted my old one. Not sure what is going on at the moment but I really am feeling like an idiot right now, obviously i am missing something here.

the members section of the website uses a different login/pw then the forum does, we really need to make this less difficult. Once everything processes you'll have access to the memebers only section of the forum and you'll see the special posted there

[Kevin]

For example I forgot my login for the members only store

[ZZZZZR1]

OK, so this deal is only available to paying members? Is this typical?

How do I become a paying member? I thought there was a difference but had difficulty finding where to join the registry.

Keith,

Shot you an email.

Welcome to the Registry!!

Any questions, let me know

Regards,

David

[USAZR1]

Any photos of the frame stiffener? Installation difficulty?

[ZZZZZR1]

Any photos of the frame stiffener? Installation difficulty?


Clint,

I haven't taken any pictures of it on my car, but I can this weekend. Installation difficulty, not really...

Figure it takes a few hours to get it set up and it only needs 2 wholes
drilled. It bolts into where the X brace would in the front and it uses
2 wholes in the rear dog bones.

Gordon did a hell of a job creating this. Kudos!!!

:cheers:

David

[USAZR1]

Clint,
I haven't taken any pictures of it on my car, but I can this weekend. Installation difficulty, not really...
Figure it takes a few hours to get it set up and it only needs 2 wholes
drilled. It bolts into where the X brace would in the front and it uses
2 wholes in the rear dog bones.
Gordon did a hell of a job creating this. Kudos!!!
:cheers:
David


Sounds great,David. Looking forward to seeing some photos of it on your car.

[cvette98pacecar]

I know I am a member of this forum but not sure about the registry. Could you please elaborate?

KJL, Here is a link to the Registry Store.

http://www.zr1netregistry.com/Marketplace/RegistryStore/tabid/235/rvdsfcatid/membership-15/Default.aspx

[KJL]

Thanks for the info, I am all signed up now. Robert, do you have or had any relatives in Boston MA area?

[-=Jeff=-]

Clint:

Frame Brace install pics:
https://plus.google.com/photos/101338012938494992078/albums/5487482834896876721?banner=pwa

I should add, I don't have the added hole drilled, it was added after I got my prototypes and I never got a newer set from Jason. if anyone has a picture of where the hole is I would appreciate it

with OEM rockers:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e4mQJ0v6MTU/Umvm9y-bDLI/AAAAAAAAEsE/nGdQkN9qaMs/w1046-h589-no/IMG_20131026_100906328_HDR.jpg

With BFR/49th street rockers
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pWcn3dprssI/U0iit2Qwa2I/AAAAAAAAFvI/lb-R9H9YNpg/w1046-h589-no/IMG_20140411_162401786_HDR.jpg

[GOLDCYLON]

With BFR/49th street rockers
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pWcn3dprssI/U0iit2Qwa2I/AAAAAAAAFvI/lb-R9H9YNpg/w1046-h589-no/IMG_20140411_162401786_HDR.jpg

Jeff love this last picture im glad to see your vision with the rockers finally make it on the car. The stance is good as well.. Are you all all lowered? Also what size wheels are those 18s? what front brake setup are your running? GC

[-=Jeff=-]

Jeff love this last picture im glad to see your vision with the rockers finally make it on the car. The stance is good as well.. Are you all all lowered? Also what size wheels are those 18s? what front brake setup are your running? GC

yesh lowered and actually brought it up recently due to replacing the top shock bushings. Still need to work out the Pass rear

wheels are 18s and the front brakes are Wilwood 6p Narrow Superlites ( like the guy has on CF)

[Locobob]

yesh lowered and actually brought it up recently due to replacing the top shock bushings. Still need to work out the Pass rear

wheels are 18s and the front brakes are Wilwood 6p Narrow Superlites ( like the guy has on CF)

Is that the 14in or 13in Wilwood kit? Need to do something about my brakes soon and Wilwood is one option I've been eyeballing. Unfortunately our 18in Shelbys are more like 17in wheels when it comes to brake clearance.

[USAZR1]

Thanks for the link to those photos,Jeff. I had it in my head those tied in the front shock towers,somehow. That system kinda reminds me of the subframe connectors we welded into the floors of unibody Camaros and Novas,to tie their front & rear frames together.

[ZZZZZR1]

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t199/pennstatefootball/f8e0b47c8a9dc926debadb1bc95e26bb_zps9ea46c28.jpg

Here's a picture taken last weekend

:cheers:

David

[USAZR1]

I like the looks of those,David. It also doesn't look like ground clearance is affected very much,at all.

[Kevin]

I like the looks of those,David. It also doesn't look like ground clearance is affected very much,at all.

don't forget, if davids car was any lower ants would have to duck their heads to get under it

[BigJohn]

That would be my C5; the squirrel scraper!!!!

[USAZR1]

don't forget, if davids car was any lower ants would have to duck their heads to get under it


:D Just the way I like my cars. lol

[-=Jeff=-]

Is that the 14in or 13in Wilwood kit? Need to do something about my brakes soon and Wilwood is one option I've been eyeballing. Unfortunately our 18in Shelbys are more like 17in wheels when it comes to brake clearance.

13.. 14 will not work with the Shelby's

[Locobob]

13.. 14 will not work with the Shelby's

That's what I figured, thanks Jeff.

[Billy Mild]

Group guy came out!!!!!

Please check the members only section for details!

:cheers:

David

Where may one find the members only section?

Is the member's only section on the ZR1 registry site. How long does it take to sync up the forum with the paid membership.

[ZZZZZR1]

Is the member's only section on the ZR1 registry site. How long does it take to sync up the forum with the paid membership.

Jeff,

Saw you just signed up, you should be set up tomorrow.

Will email Brett and Mark.

Thanks for your support! Great meeting you last month!

:cheers:

David

[Billy Mild]

Jeff,

Saw you just signed up, you should be set up tomorrow.

Will email Brett and Mark.

Thanks for your support! Great meeting you last month!

:cheers:

David

It was nice meeting you as well.

I didn't realize there was a paid subscription before reading this thread. There is a wealth of knowledge here so it is worth supporting this community.

I tried looking for these frame stiffener's on the member's shop, but there wasn't anything listed. Is it the standard discount for paying members at Vette2Vette? Is there a group buy that is going to happen?

[Kevin]

It was nice meeting you as well.

I didn't realize there was a paid subscription before reading this thread. There is a wealth of knowledge here so it is worth supporting this community.

I tried looking for these frame stiffener's on the member's shop, but there wasn't anything listed. Is it the standard discount for paying members at Vette2Vette? Is there a group buy that is going to happen?

pretty sure it's a group buy

[92whiteZ]

I couldnt find the group buy on the membership site either. did i miss it?

[ZZZZZR1]

I couldnt find the group buy on the membership site either. did i miss it?

I"ll call Jason @ Vette to Vette and ask him to continue the
group buy.

Cheers

David

[key_on]

I recently installed the No Flex Stiffeners on my car. It is possible that I don't have them adjusted properly yet but they did not help as much as I had hoped. Going to try to tighten them a little more. If I can't obtain better results they're coming off.

[Fully Vetted]

Just make sure they are even on both sides. Count the threads and get as close as you can.

[ZZZZZR1]

I recently installed the No Flex Stiffeners on my car. It is possible that I don't have them adjusted properly yet but they did not help as much as I had hoped. Going to try to tighten them a little more. If I can't obtain better results they're coming off.

I'd call Jason @ Vette to Vette

Jason gave a coupon code for club members! Will post in the members only section

Cheers

David