Screwed up with rims

[Mitsumark]

I ordered the ARE TT2 rims in 17x11 rear with 33mm offset..They fit fine..The fronts are 17x9.5 with an 8mm offset..I got the part numbers for ZR1 specific wheels from a forum member on here..Big mistake on my part not cross checking the specs..Here is my dilemma..The front rims stick out about 1 1/2 inches..Question is do all ZR1s have this Brembro brake kit pictured on my car below?If not,it looks like that extra hub seen on my rotor below is the exact size I need for the wheel to fit correctly..When the forum member gave me these part #s,,he might of been under the assumption I was running smaller brakes..These rims are non returnable as they are "made to order"so Im stuck with them..My option is to either downgrade to stock front brakes or sell these off..Are my brakes below stock?..Thanks...

[XfireZ51]

WOW! 8mm offset???? That won't work. Mine stick just a smidge and they are 40mm C6Z06 wheels. Especially w 2 piece rotors.

[We Gone]

No you do not have stock ZR-1 J55 brake setup.

[IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img7/7767/dzqk.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/dzqk.jpg/)

[Mitsumark]

So if I had stock nrakes,would they work?Also,what would be the correct 17x9.5 Torque Thrust wheel to run with my specific brakes?

[XfireZ51]

So if I had stock nrakes,would they work?Also,what would be the correct 17x9.5 Torque Thrust wheel to run with my specific brakes?

The stock offset for a front wheel is ~57mm. Your wheel is nearly 2" off the spec. Stock brakes won't matter.

[Mitsumark]

Thanks..Lesson learned..Anyone have a clue of what vehicles run our bolt pattern with an 8mm offset? Im gonna have to peddle these off at a discount to get the correct ones..

[GOLDCYLON]

Thanks..Lesson learned..Anyone have a clue of what vehicles run our bolt pattern with an 8mm offset? Im gonna have to peddle these off at a discount to get the correct ones..

None with that brake setup. Its spacer city all the way even if you have stock brakes

[WVZR-1]

I ordered the ARE TT2 rims in 17x11 rear with 33mm offset..They fit fine..The fronts are 17x9.5 with an 8mm offset..I got the part numbers for ZR1 specific wheels from a forum member on here..Big mistake on my part not cross checking the specs..Here is my dilemma..The front rims stick out about 1 1/2 inches..Question is do all ZR1s have this Brembro brake kit pictured on my car below?If not,it looks like that extra hub seen on my rotor below is the exact size I need for the wheel to fit correctly..When the forum member gave me these part #s,,he might of been under the assumption I was running smaller brakes..These rims are non returnable as they are "made to order"so Im stuck with them..My option is to either downgrade to stock front brakes or sell these off..Are my brakes below stock?..Thanks...

Let's start from scratch here. The brakes were on the car when bought? What wheels were on the car when you bought it that we'll guess likely were a suitable fit? Were they a suitable fit? Were there any interference issues?

What you just bought should have likely a back-spacing of just over 5 1/2". Confirm that and then we'll start over. It's going to be a tough wheel to sell but since your rears are a fit and if we settled on a front TT2 that would fit with no issues I would think you could deal with the vendor for some consideration. It's not the first time for them.

Let's concentrate on what was on the car when you bought it. Were the brakes maybe in a "box" and part of the sale?

I understand wheels but that doesn't mean I can help. I believe I can ask the right questions!

Without discussing your brakes "on the car" if your car had "stock" brakes you could do the TT2's with a 46mm off-set that would move the tire/wheel outboard maybe .4 inch +/- very little. That would be considered a reasonable fit for most. That appears to be an "off the shelf" wheel for them. From the looks of their web-site the 8mm offset is normally done in a 5 x 5 bolt circle - truck stuff. Now if someone was doing a resto-truck of sorts the 8mm offset might fly. They won't be an easy sell but maybe they wouldn't beat you up real bad if we could find a wheel that would work from them.

The S10/Sonoma guys might be buyers - who knows.

[Mitsumark]

The car came with the brakes installed..They are a Brembro dual piston ..I figured they weren't stock as the car is all modded..The car is currently sitting on stock 17x11--17x9.5 A-molds in the correct ZR1 offset.They are a perfect fit...Here is another question..The correct 56mm front offset is no longer available without waiting another 6 weeks and paying a premium for having a custom size made..Would the 17x9.5 46mm work WITH my brakes as they are readily available?

[WVZR-1]

The car came with the brakes installed..They are a Brembro dual piston ..I figured they weren't stock as the car is all modded..The car is currently sitting on stock 17x11--17x9.5 A-molds in the correct ZR1 offset.They are a perfect fit...Here is another question..The correct 56mm front offset is no longer available without waiting another 6 weeks and paying a premium for having a custom size made..Would the 17x9.5 46mm work WITH my brakes as they are readily available?


Looking at your snapshots I don't see issues and I don't see that ARE posts any dimensions of their "spoke-placement" vs the wheel-flange. You could drop a "plumb-bob" from the hood edge to see if you're OK with the tire/wheel placement that is going to be 10mm more out-board. You could ask ARE for the "spoke-placement" dimensions if they have them.

Measure from the wheel flange to the caliper face at both the center of the caliper and the extreme ends of the caliper.

[Mitsumark]

I will do that..I just found that ARE also has a size available closer to the stock ZR1 size..



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Size: 17x9.5
Finish: Polished
Boltpattern: 5x4.75
Offset: 52
Back Spacing 7.3
Hub Bore: 72.60
Partnumber: VN4057956172
Retail Price: $410.00
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[WVZR-1]

Your concern maybe needs to be this and I saved it for a separate post so as not to confuse. Not knowing where your brake rotor/hub face is located we don't know where the factory tire/wheel is at NOW. Perhaps it's now already at a position that's outside or very close to the hood lip so that needs to be your primary concern. The "plumb-bob" answers that question. The only other spec that is questionable at all is the 72.6mm center bore. It would be very snug actually undersized by a little for the factory hub diameter but your hub center could be dimensionally different. You could check.

The 52mm I would think a plus to correct your situation.

You've undoubtedly established a bit of a relationship with the vendor so maybe having a "single" shipped to check the fitment might be in order. How close is the vendor?

[WVZR-1]

Here is what I mentioned checking with ARE that I called "spoke-placement" and I've never had that questioned but here's an image where it's referenced as "pad thickness". This is a dimension that you're most concerned with in addition to where the factory 9 1/2 is now regarding the placement in the wheel-house.

http://flushstance.ccwheel.com/img/measurements/diagrams/wheel_build.jpg

This isn't quite a correct image for dimensioning because they measure to the wheel center and there's no allowance for the hardware that's holding the wheel together. That's of course not an issue for you.

[Mitsumark]

The stock rim still sits inside the fender even with the upgraded rotors.I think the 52 offset is the ticket..However I will call American Racing to verify..Unfortunetely the wheels came from Summit and they are not willing to help me out in any way.It does clearly state when ordering that they are custom wheels and are non returnable.These will hit EBay this weekend.These were $329 each..I'd be happy to get back $500 for the pair..

[-=Jeff=-]

Those are some interesting looking rotor hats...

I also have Brembos on my car but the rotors and hats are different. They seemed to fit fine with A-molds, although I never had a-molds and these brakes on my car at the same time:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-c6IEAMh4KQ4/UJshMpI-7uI/AAAAAAAADE8/Suy5LT3Ce60/w915-h516-no/2012-11-07_19-34-11_347.jpg

[cvette98pacecar]

Thanks..Lesson learned..Anyone have a clue of what vehicles run our bolt pattern with an 8mm offset? Im gonna have to peddle these off at a discount to get the correct ones..

BMW 3 and 5 series.

[cvette98pacecar]

Those are some interesting looking rotor hats...

I also have Brembos on my car but the rotors and hats are different. They seemed to fit fine with A-molds, although I never had a-molds and these brakes on my car at the same time:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-c6IEAMh4KQ4/UJshMpI-7uI/AAAAAAAADE8/Suy5LT3Ce60/w915-h516-no/2012-11-07_19-34-11_347.jpg

I would tell you how sexy those calipers are except the price would go up when you take them off and sell them to me.

[WVZR-1]

BMW 3 and 5 series.

For starters the bolt circle isn't a match and I believe you can't find either that use offsets in the "single" digits. There are some very high teens but most are low to mid twenties. There are model specific that require high thirties to low and mid forties.

OP - I'd say you've the correct idea regarding a sale on eBay and you can post actual snapshots rather than just "stock" images so that might be a plus. Post them just as you noted the specs on the 52mm wheel you want to attempt this time. I'd certainly try to retain as much of the original pay out as I could. Post a realistic "buy it now" and maybe ask for "offers". You get what you want or close let them go. I don't think I'd post asking prices that are going to get you "beat up". The wheels should have a rather substantial lip or what some of us called "reversed" decades ago so they should make for "striking snapshots"! Boast that yours are ready to ship - no six week wait!

The bad is that Amazon has the 5 X 5 bolt circle at $187 -

There are buyers for these - I don't believe it's as great an issue as you expect. Be prepared to answer many questions.

[cvette98pacecar]

For starters the bolt circle isn't a match and I believe you can't find either that use offsets in the "single" digits. There are some very high teens but most are low to mid twenties. There are model specific that require high thirties to low and mid forties.

Here is a link to the classified ads for 5x120 and 5x120.65
And as for anyone that is slamming their BMW they want more lip than Barrel. I am not saying you will sell them a 8mm offset is drastic. However, If there is anywhere to sell them here is the location.

http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=85

[Mitsumark]

The current wrong ones I have do have a pretty aggressive lip..However I can't see a Bimmer guy running a TT2 as it is more of a muscle car wheel..Bimmer guys like the tuner wheels..Thanks for the advice..