Ramblings of selling or fixing a great car.

[Torchred96]

I guess the big question is what's it worth as it sits?

Between a rock and a hard place. What a shame..Never expected to lose a bearing or piston on the lt5. So, buying it with mileage seemed only a problem for resale, which I didn't intend to do....but now I have to reconsider my options...fix or sell. Here's some details.

It has 135k miles, has a running but probably needs (short block) engine, interior in great condition at least a 7.5 or 8/10 (since 9 is virtually perfect in almost every way right) and with a 20 foot paint job done by the PO.

All the bugs worked out of it until this latest problem...a great driver, drives straight, brakes hard, corners like it's on rails, one listed accident which I can find no real evidence of, even when I had the carpet out. The guy I bought it from said it drove like a 30k mile car..He was right, it did ride like one, just didn't run like one at the time....I fixed that...for a while anyway.

Now, I really hate to part this car out.. It is just too squared away, even with all the mileage on it. But by the time I put a short block in it, it will still need a paint job to look as proud as it should be, and it seems I'd be already close to one with much lower mileage in this buyer's market. I hate this dilemma. But by the same time, I'd love an almost pristine ZR1 as much as I love my own and then some!!! right?

Makes me sick to think of all the things I did, money I spent. 93 wheels, new steering wheel PC plenum/IH's and cam covers, water passages, Along with the haibeck chip for modified engines with spt's removed, jvc stereo/navigation, amplifier etc etc. UGH. The last thing I expected was a bearing failure so it was my intention to keepp it...but now.. I'm not so sure.

Any advice?

[Dynomite]

Buy a nice ZR-1 with maybe 50K-75K miles in good condition but not worked on much. Then switch all you good stuff to that one. Then part out or sell what is left. You will at least know you are not giving away your improvements.

I had a disaster on a 90' (L98) and kept it for parts for a ZR-1......I then bought a nice ZR1 with some small issues (great price) that needed some of those parts. Made Lemonade out of Lemons as the say ;)

Or......pull the engine and find out exactly what went wrong.....(130K miles is a bit of mileage) and if you have to start with a nice short block like Pete suggests.

[USAFPILOT]

probably doesn't actually need a short block. Maybe new liners and piston rings, gaskets, labor etc.

[GOLDCYLON]

Talk to Kurt White he's had an engine exchange program... Well at least he did last year his handle is Limey and he lives in Florida

[A26B]

I recommend that you be sure you have a bearing problem before going into the engine or selling the Zee under that assumption.

DM flywheels can make a noise at idle that sounds very much like a rod knock. There are however, ways to tell the difference.

1. Flywheel knock goes away with higher rpm, a rod knock does not.

Increase rpm to 1500 rpm & hold steady. A rod knock will get quieter or even go away under load, either accelerating or decelerating. Neutral, park brake on, increase from idle to 1500 rpm & hold steady. If it's a rod knock, it will still be present when you hold rpm steady, the flywheel sound will not.

Another option, should it turn out to be a loose rod bearing. Odds are very much in your favor that the crank will be undamaged. If the bearing has NOT spun, you can probably just replace the rod bearing(s) without removing the engine. I say bearing(s) because you can do all 8 of them from under the car.

A set of 8 rod bearings is $40 and a pan gasket w/seal is $75.

You owe it to yourself to be sure. If you're not feeling capable, trailer it up to Aaron Scott/South Georgia Corvette in Thomasville, GA. he will be able to tell you for certain.

Bearings will show some wear, but normally are no where near knocking from wear @ 135,000.

[LGAFF]

As stated check the obvious things....but if its a knock. Do a few upgrades and...

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[Torchred96]

At this point there's no harm and minimal amount of work to get the pan back down since I haven't put the cross members back in yet. Can the rod bearings be changed without pulling the girdle? It's been a while since I had it down, but I dont recall there being a lot of room. I'm not afraid to do any of the work, I got nothing (not much) to loose, but right now I have a running engine..(badly running), but I just don't want to get it all taken apart, find out the bearing is spun then what...lots more money to spend..and on a car that money might have been better spent recouping at salvage price and putting into one with less miles and in better overall condition.

Consider this, there is one on ebay right now for 17900. Chances are it can be had for 17, Even if I parted mine out I could prob get 5 leaving me with only about 12k for a pretty nice looking car with far lower mileage (40k) and it's only 5 hours from me. Though he says it was bumped in the front, fixed and the windshield wipers hit the hood. anyway, I know I'm rambling.

[Torchred96]

Jerry, I didn't even think of that, forgetting that the engine in the car is at least worth something toward an exchange or outright sale to someone .. I know I have seen heads alone go for (asking for) about half as much as I can get for the rolling chassis on e bay.

Thanks for all the support guys.
sam

[cvette98pacecar]

I sent you my cell phone number give me a call and we can talk about getting you my short block.

[WARP TEN]

Hi Sam--
I have to agree with Jerry--it certainly makes sense to think about hauling it up to Aaron at SGC. At the very least why not give him a call and talk about it. I am sure he will try to help. Before you make a big decision good idea to have an expert at least do a diagnosis. Good luck!! - Bob

[bamawrx]

You need more information to make the right decision. I think your getting some good advise here. Make sure of what the problem really is and what your options are. I'd be squeezing the wallet hard from this point forward though.

If you can't fix her for a reasonable amount then buy another, move parts over, and part out the rest. You will be surprised how much you will get out of it. Heck I need a few parts lol...Lets hope it doesn't come to that.