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Having some fun in the driveway on a gorgeous fall day in GA!
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb49/mlitherland/ZR-1/3e1c074d-18a1-4485-8ff2-e22d4ee769f6_zps9d76f446.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb49/mlitherland/ZR-1/IMG_0309_zpsf8bf831f.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb49/mlitherland/ZR-1/IMG_0275_zps6318b1f7.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb49/mlitherland/ZR-1/IMG_0271_zps235164bb.jpg
alnukem
11-03-2013, 03:15 PM
Are these both yours? Ignorant question.....what model is the Ferrari?????
Yes they are mine. The Ferrari is an '85 308 GTB, and about as different from the ZR-1 as a sports car can get. I know it like the back of my hand, while the Corvette is very new to me. I'm enjoying the difference!
We Gone
11-03-2013, 07:21 PM
Very nice.....
CJ_ZR1
11-05-2013, 12:28 PM
Great looking cars! I have always loved the look of a 308 GTB. Enjoy your new to you Z :cheers:
Nice cars, they are both DOHC V8's.
Thanks! Yes both are 4-cam 32 valve V8s, but the ZR-1 is nearly twice the displacement of the 308! Totally different driving experiences.
Thanks! Yes both are 4-cam 32 valve V8s, but the ZR-1 is nearly twice the displacement of the 308! Totally different driving experiences.
Isnt the Italian engine a 2.9l 240hp@6800rpm using the US specs? Nice and light at 2700lbs. Im glad I guess correctly, I didnt realize their was a 2.9l available with DOHC but with just 16 valves. So you have an actual "Quattrovalvole".
My Uncle has a 91 Testarossa with the flat 12 4.9 liter DOHC-380 hp@6300rpm using US stats as equipped with cat converters. But weighs around 3300lbs. He has an aftermarket exhaust without cats on his..
What year is your 308? (82-85??) and your ZR-1?
Ive always loved the sound of the high revving V8's, the 2.8 has a red line of 7700rpm.
Isnt the Italian engine a 2.9l 240hp@6800rpm using the US specs? Nice and light at 2700lbs. Im glad I guess correctly, I didnt realize their was a 2.9l available with DOHC but with just 16 valves. So you have an actual "Quattrovalvole".
My Uncle has a 91 Testarossa with the flat 12 4.9 liter DOHC-380 hp@6300rpm using US stats as equipped with cat converters. But weighs around 3300lbs. He has an aftermarket exhaust without cats on his..
What year is your 308? (82-85??) and your ZR-1?
Ive always loved the sound of the high revving V8's, the 2.8 has a red line of 7700rpm.
Depending on the year and country of origin, 308s have between 205-250hp, with the early carb and the last euro QVs having the highest output. All the V8 models from the 70s on up have 4cams and between 16 and 40 valves, including the Italy-only 208s - talk about a tiny V8. Mine is an 85 euro quattrovalvole (QV for short), so it's about 150lbs lighter than a US car and about 250hp. Ferrari was notoriously inaccurate on hp claims, sometimes low and sometimes high. But I can tell you my euro QV will keep up with a Porsche 928S4 from a dead stop to 100mph.
The ZR-1 is a '90 with 44k now and has become my daily driver, so the miles will keep piling up. Still sorting a few little drivability issues from being stored so long, but it goes like a bat outta hell. It weighs at least 500lbs more than the 308, maybe more, but the P/W ratio is considerably higher. Funny when some friends came over and asked "how much faster is the Ferrari?" They didn't believe me when I said the Corvette was a LOT faster.
Having two 7000+ cars in the garage is a blast! I highly recommend picking one up. :D
I thought this was a really cool pic. Faceoff!
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb49/mlitherland/308/IMG_0274_zpsaae8c8e6.jpg
Excellent, thanks for your response. You sure do have a gem their in it being an 1985 Euro 2.8 QV.
Is your 308 right or left hand drive, sorry I cant tell from the pics.
My Uncles 1991 Test had 7,000 miles on it when he bought it. He did the timing belts on it by himself, it was quite a job. Now he has 17,000 miles on it and he enjoys going on "tours" with it, he even gets on teh racetrack with it for some sort of paced racing action.
Is there any sort of maintenance that you have to really follow with the 2.8QV? My Uncle was nervous about the timing belts on the 4.9 flat 12 being so old, even with low miles, so he swapped them just to be sure.
The 208's had the 2.0l V8 which were the smallest production V8 built IIRC.
Take care.
Maintenance on a TR is intimidating but not too bad once you adjust your senses. The whole rear frame comes out in a single assembly - engine, gearbox, driveshafts, wheels and the frame itself. There's a "cart" you can buy or built that makes it a reasonably straightforward task, but you do need a lift. I do plan on getting one some day, incredible machines.
So far I think the LT5 is a little harder to work on. It's easy to get to since the clamshell hood just puts everything right there, but it's much more cramped in there. On the 308 you can pull the right rear wheel and wheelwell, and there's the front of the engine. Take a seat and go to work. On the LT5 the water pump was a royal pain in the back/hands/arms/legs, and everything requires moving three other things to get to it. I'll probably pull the plenum here in the next couple weeks to refresh everything under there, but it looks like a job and a half.
phrogs
11-07-2013, 07:34 AM
Nah working on the LT5 is easy, But if you ever needed to work on the heads of cams its a bit of a job doing it in the car. Not unlike doing anything on the Ferrari.
When I bought my 308 I yanked the engine to clean it do the belt service and anything else I saw that needed fixing, I also changed out every single fuel line in the car. That's one reason I pulled the motor just so I could get in and get to that stuff easier.
Not really hard at all.
But I will be dropping the engine on my F355 when I get home to do the 30K service as its been a few years.
No reason to run on old Cam belts and Bearings if you don't have to. They are to inexpensive to risk damage to the motor.
I'm never scared to tear into any motor. It just helps to have manuals there to guide you along.
rogerzr1
11-11-2013, 03:12 PM
Great looking cars!! What part of ATL are you in? I'm up in Cartersville.
Thanks! I'm on the north side in Cobb county. Took the Z on a nice long drive over the weekend, really running well. I also took the top off for the first time and while it was fine cruising on the highway, back roads were eye opening. Holy cowl shake batman! I'm not used to that, so it was surprising but I suppose normal for these cars.
rogerzr1
11-15-2013, 01:29 PM
Thanks! I'm on the north side in Cobb county. Took the Z on a nice long drive over the weekend, really running well. I also took the top off for the first time and while it was fine cruising on the highway, back roads were eye opening. Holy cowl shake batman! I'm not used to that, so it was surprising but I suppose normal for these cars.
Yes, it took me a while to get use to the vibration when the top is out. I originally thought it might just be my blue z but both of my z's do it to some degree.
Thought this was an interesting shot. It will be another 11,111 miles before I see anything like that again.
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb49/mlitherland/ZR-1/IMG_0648_zps9dbf39fd.jpg
Yes, it took me a while to get use to the vibration when the top is out. I originally thought it might just be my blue z but both of my z's do it to some degree.
For $500 this looks like a really nice solution, and something that should have been standard. Putting it here so I don't forget about it.
http://www.vette2vette.com/product/86-96-c4-no-flex-frame-stiffener-bar-system
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