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Ronstar
04-27-2013, 03:55 PM
Is it gonna happen?

FU
04-27-2013, 10:50 PM
I tried Ron. Lack of support and political BS stopped me from proceeding.
Only one person will come forward and explain why we can't drag race this year.


http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20065

Ronstar
04-28-2013, 12:02 AM
I thought we had rounded up enough support without registry support. Oh well maybe next time.
The part I don't get is there will be autocross but drags are unacceptable?

cvette98pacecar
04-28-2013, 09:43 AM
Ron, I can feel your pain. I think the biggest concern that we have as a group is legality. We are working on getting the group insurance so we will have a umbrella policy that will cover drag racing.
Now I know what you are going to say the track has insurance. The truth in the matter is anyone can sue anyone at any given time. Any lawsuit of any kind could destroy the registry just in legal fees.
The board of directors voted on this event twice to make sure we were doing what was in the best interest of the group.

Don't Worry Crowne Point races will be here soon enough and you can see what that "421" beast will do there.

Ronstar
04-28-2013, 11:20 AM
Ron, I can feel your pain. I think the biggest concern that we have as a group is legality. We are working on getting the group insurance so we will have a umbrella policy that will cover drag racing.
Now I know what you are going to say the track has insurance. The truth in the matter is anyone can sue anyone at any given time. Any lawsuit of any kind could destroy the registry just in legal fees.
The board of directors voted on this event twice to make sure we were doing what was in the best interest of the group.

Don't Worry Crowne Point races will be here soon enough and you can see what that "421" beast will do there.

Yeah. I'm good with all that. It all had to happen kinda quick as we waited until last minute. I was thinking we had the support without registry help but it seems that it was the upfront money that was the biggest snag which is understandable..who wants to put up a couple grand and no guarantee of getting it back. Had we started earlier and got enough commitments and/or deposits I (or someone) could have put down the cash without a large risk

FU
04-28-2013, 12:03 PM
I could have easily taken care of this drag racing commitment. But because I'm being snubbed by the upper board member and because I won't conform with his antic's. My position is such. WTF.

I'm not one of your puppet's David. The club is not about brown-nosing . No *** kissing here.

Me , I'm here for the Registry (LIKE YOU ONCE WERE) and the many friends we have made throughout the years.

gbrtng
04-28-2013, 07:20 PM
I think the biggest concern that we have as a group is legality. We are working on getting the group insurance so we will have a umbrella policy that will cover drag racing.

Well, isn't that special - the lawyers have taken over. Everywhere I have raced, I signed a waiver absolving the track and the rest of the world. I knew I was on my own dime. So what has changed here? I would liked to have been a fly on the wall whilst the board was making this decision ...
Maybe the legal eagles can come forward with their rationale ...

FYI, I might have decided to come to the event if I could have run my new toy, but that's for another place and time now.

TGF

DDSLT5
04-28-2013, 08:49 PM
Well, isn't that special - the lawyers have taken over. Everywhere I have raced, I signed a waiver absolving the track and the rest of the world. I knew I was on my own dime. So what has changed here? I would liked to have been a fly on the wall whilst the board was making this decision ...
Maybe the legal eagles can come forward with their rationale ...

FYI, I might have decided to come to the event if I could have run my new toy, but that's for another place and time now.

TGF

Hey Glenn,

Don't blame the lawyers. As Frankie said above - he could have managed it personally with ease. I did so for 5 or so straight years in the past. There are deeper issues going on here. I'm not a member, as I didn't wish to condone or encourage any actions that would result in the destruction and dismantling of the club I worked so hard to create. Since you are a member, I encourage you to back Frankie and let other members know the truth.

Good luck!

D. Eickmeier
Editor Emeritus
ZR-1 Net Registry
Heart of the Beast
Founding Member #9 (inactive)

bodak1
04-28-2013, 08:52 PM
I too am perplexed as to how dragracing can be pulled off at other venues and it can't be here. I was looking forward to this, but now i have made other plans and won't be coming.

Ronstar
04-28-2013, 09:16 PM
I wasn't trying to stir up the pot or anything. I just hadn't heard the final verdict. :angel12:

Kevin
04-28-2013, 09:24 PM
Ron, I can feel your pain. I think the biggest concern that we have as a group is legality. We are working on getting the group insurance so we will have a umbrella policy that will cover drag racing.
Now I know what you are going to say the track has insurance. The truth in the matter is anyone can sue anyone at any given time. Any lawsuit of any kind could destroy the registry just in legal fees.
The board of directors voted on this event twice to make sure we were doing what was in the best interest of the group.

Don't Worry Crowne Point races will be here soon enough and you can see what that "421" beast will do there.
since we're all so worried about liability...which could be taken care of by a form that a second year law student could draft...I find it odd that I can't get an answer to the "are we insured to serve alcohol" question I've been asking for the last few days

FU
04-29-2013, 07:41 AM
I wasn't trying to stir up the pot or anything. I just hadn't heard the final verdict. :angel12:

Your not stirring up anything Ron. There's just some frustration being aired out here that's all.

LancePearson
04-29-2013, 08:14 AM
Ron, I can feel your pain. I think the biggest concern that we have as a group is legality. We are working on getting the group insurance so we will have a umbrella policy that will cover drag racing.
Now I know what you are going to say the track has insurance. The truth in the matter is anyone can sue anyone at any given time. Any lawsuit of any kind could destroy the registry just in legal fees.
The board of directors voted on this event twice to make sure we were doing what was in the best interest of the group.

Don't Worry Crowne Point races will be here soon enough and you can see what that "421" beast will do there.


Don't know about drag races but on many road racing tracks if you have an accident and damage the track YOU are liable for the cost of repairs to the track as well. A very expensive sport, road racing.

Lance

gbrtng
04-29-2013, 10:18 AM
I too am perplexed as to how dragracing can be pulled off at other venues and it can't be here. I was looking forward to this, but now i have made other plans and won't be coming.

Now you can go to the Mecum auction instead ...

Paul Workman
04-29-2013, 11:28 AM
I too am perplexed as to how dragracing can be pulled off at other venues and it can't be here. I was looking forward to this, but now i have made other plans and won't be coming.

Many (including me) wanted to race too. But, as Pete said, it isn't that big a deal - meeting and BSn with friends and talkin cars and cookin on the barbee...is where its at. How-some-ever, there will be drag racing as long as Beach Bend holds to their "Test and Tune" period on Saturday (what we did last year). But, if drag racing was the only reason to come, you'll miss a lot of fun, the chance to learn some really neat stuff regarding mods and supercharging, and a chance to hang out with a lot of friends - see and do a lot more.

Oh, and then too, if the last several years are any indication, RAIN has been a spoiler on more than several occations; making drag racing a less than 50-50 possibility at best! So, racing would be the icing on the cake, but I wouldn't go to BG just for that. Too "iffy" with the weather, and too much fun otherwise!

Hog
04-29-2013, 11:43 AM
Well at least you guys can report some sort of 1/4 mile times for us.

peace
Hog