View Full Version : What car would you trade your ZR-1 for?
XfireZ51
04-27-2013, 01:05 PM
The C7 is very tempting. But I would probably take the Alfa 4C first.
Other thoughts?
Kevin
04-27-2013, 01:15 PM
trade? never happen
Jim Nolan
04-27-2013, 01:22 PM
A '63 Impala Super Sport 409/409 4-speed or a '62 Bel Air bubble top 409/409 0r 340 4-speed.
WydGlydJim
04-27-2013, 01:23 PM
If I can't add to, I will just have one.
:thumbsup:
Blue Flame Restorations
04-27-2013, 01:28 PM
1935 Auburn Boat Tail Speedster
LGAFF
04-27-2013, 01:58 PM
Detomaso Pantera or Mangusta
XfireZ51
04-27-2013, 02:18 PM
Detomaso Pantera or Mangusta
Yes the Pantera. Italian beauty, American muscle.
RiceEatingZR1
04-27-2013, 02:42 PM
new 2013 ZR1 or even a Z06 ... I am not 100% sold on the C7.
Z51JEFF
04-27-2013, 02:43 PM
....................cant think of anything Id rather have than my Z,but if it keeps acting up Im sure something WILL come to mind.
ZR-1 Franz
04-27-2013, 03:27 PM
Well, I would never trade the ZR-1 for any other car. I would add another one if I had the money. But I already have a '91 L98 and some Blazers and Chevy pickups. My wife drives a new Abarth 500 at the moment. Nice little car, very fast for this size of vehicle.
There is also a '64 Impala SS 409/425hp. Our family owns this car since 1967! I like it!
What I personally hope to add one day is an Alfa Romeo Montreal V8. I really like this italien beauty. But at the moment I am happy with our cars.
Franz
Paul Workman
04-27-2013, 03:44 PM
Rather not trade. But, an Italia 458...would be right up there!
Blue Flame Restorations
04-27-2013, 03:47 PM
Paul, I had a brand new 458 at the shop about two years ago. Bright red and just beautiful. Yep, it'd be right up there for sure.
Z51JEFF
04-27-2013, 06:56 PM
A '63 Impala Super Sport 409/409 4-speed.
30 years ago there was a guy here in town that had this car for sale.Nobody new what it was but I did,I didnt have the money to buy it...............$1500.:cry:
XfireZ51
04-27-2013, 07:23 PM
I liked the 62 and then the 65 body style better but OMG,
A 409 SS!!!!!!
This is the one that got away kind of story like the 69 Z28 that was light blue, white stripes, and white houndstooth cloth interior. $1200 and this was in 1974.
He had a buyer and I was begging him!
USAFPILOT
04-27-2013, 07:43 PM
2014 SRT Viper TA
C7 BUT it would have to be a very special addition.
Kevin
04-27-2013, 07:48 PM
possibly a ring edition lfa
Mystic ZR-1
04-27-2013, 08:12 PM
Bugatti Veyron, but it would have to be the Bug and some cash!
Blue Flame Restorations
04-27-2013, 08:23 PM
30 years ago there was a guy here in town that has this car for sale.Nobody new what it was but I did,I didnt have the money to buy it...............$1500.:cry:
Jeff, my engine guy has a 62, 409/409 project he would possibly sell. REAL car.
rhipsher
04-27-2013, 08:29 PM
I'd trade mine without hesitation for a 1965 Shelby GT350R. Super super rare collector car. Here's one racing. It's a screamer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5jckqmGH30&NR=1&feature=endscreen
MRC1994
04-27-2013, 08:36 PM
My first car was my Dad's 62 Chevy. Always had a soft spot for the 62. Don't think I would trade, but a 62 Impala 2 door hardtop, 409 four speed would be tempting.
USAFPILOT
04-27-2013, 09:36 PM
I am also interested in finding an LT4 SS Camaro to add to not replace the ZR-1.
efnfast
04-27-2013, 09:41 PM
Stopped and looked at a 08 yesterday. Salesman asked if it was time for an upgrade. I answered "you mean a downgrade".
Z51JEFF
04-27-2013, 10:19 PM
Jeff, my engine guy has a 62, 409/409 project he would possibly sell. REAL car.
Out of all of the S.S. 409s the 62 is my favorite,bubble top or not thats the one Id take if I were in the market.
White Bullet
04-27-2013, 10:54 PM
A Ferrari 308 GTS. Always wanted one.
mike100
04-27-2013, 11:49 PM
I'd probably be sorry afterwords, but there are some Vipers I wouldn't mind owning.
I also consider getting an SRT-10 Dodge truck from time to time.
I suppose I would trade for either a 1930s Duesenberg SJ Convertible or a 1967 Ferrari 275 GTB/4 coupe would be nice. But I'm happy with my cars.
Z51JEFF
04-28-2013, 03:45 AM
I completely forgot about this,the only car built in the last 40 years that really does it for me is the Ford GT.If I got rich tomorrow thats the first thing Id be looking for,silver with white stripes.
1991ZR1
04-28-2013, 01:28 PM
I wouldn't trade but I would like to add a Cuda. That's what I had when I was in school. A pretty nice one just sold on Mecum for $30,000 which seems to be a good deal these days. I also like Panteras and Ferrari 308's. I guess I'm showing my age.
Schrade
04-28-2013, 03:22 PM
959
rkreigh
04-28-2013, 08:56 PM
Heffner TT Ford GT got a ride in one, and it was the fastest thing I've been in and very stable on top end.
sharp looking car with a strong racing heritage
that's one Ford I'd own for sure if I had the coin
for now, I'll be happy with what I have
Racinfan83
04-28-2013, 09:09 PM
Considering I just traded a nice 71 Nova SS for this car - I'm definitely not planning on trading it anytime soon!
But of course everything is for sale.....:):handshak:
That's what I told the guy I traded with when he asked me if the Nova was for sale. Seems that he wanted it bad enough he was willing to take the leap. I was only too happy to oblige...LOL
carter200
04-28-2013, 09:24 PM
1970 HEMI Cuda :dancing
Vetman
04-28-2013, 10:53 PM
a second Z.... sorry, no trade. Love the historic significance of the z and as well as the ride!
ghlkal
04-28-2013, 11:09 PM
a 789 by N2A
I'm not exactly sure why I like this thing ... but I do
http://www.n2amotors.com/images/vehicles/2/large/1.jpg
http://www.n2amotors.com/vehicles.aspx?VehicleID=2#Link1
Mr Blue
04-28-2013, 11:33 PM
Since its only hypothetical, The early Corvette racing specials; Corvette SS, Sting Ray racer, or an original Grand Sport. They have it all; style, performance and, history. I always thought that the LT5 fulfilled the vision that Duntov had for a Corvette engine. He wanted OHC and multiple valves way back in the 60's.
David
XfireZ51
04-28-2013, 11:37 PM
a 789 by N2A
I'm not exactly sure why I like this thing ... but I do
http://www.n2amotors.com/images/vehicles/2/large/1.jpg
http://www.n2amotors.com/vehicles.aspx?VehicleID=2#Link1
Well it gets your attention, that's for sure.
Fully Vetted
04-29-2013, 01:38 AM
Hypothetically - '72 Hemi Cuda or a Ford GT(unrealistic, though)
In reality, I would trade for a De Tomaso Pantera. Dad had one and I remember it very fondly.
RICHARD TILL
04-29-2013, 02:06 AM
I`d like to trade for a nice 1970 Chevy ElCamino, SS454, 450 h.p., turbo 400 and 3.73 posi.
cvette98pacecar
04-29-2013, 02:27 AM
57 Nomad.
So many cars, so little garage space:
A realistic possibility:
Porsche 993 Turbo
If I had a lottery win:
Porsche 997 GT2 RS (black)
Porsche 997 GT3 RS 4.0 (white)
Ford GT Heritage Edition
most of the body styles offered with the 426 Hemi
BMW Z8
Ken
Bob G
04-29-2013, 07:03 AM
1967 corvette 427 L-88 Coupe
even up
TCurtner
04-29-2013, 09:08 AM
Stopped and looked at a 08 yesterday. Salesman asked if it was time for an upgrade. I answered "you mean a downgrade".
AGREE WITH ABOVE! :-)
THREAD ASKS WRONG QUESTION! Should be 'What car would you trade for a ZR-1?' I sold my '08 Viper so i could buy a 2011 silverado 3/4 ton, a gatormade trailer and my '91 ZR-1 (to street/track). Totally satisfied...
Bob Eyres
04-29-2013, 09:51 AM
Kind of surprised at all the mentions of those old "W" head motors from the early sixties. What is it with the ZR-1'ers? do we have the hots for "outmoded" performance motors. :confused:
My long time dream is to have my old gasser back. A 53' Bel Air 2 door hardtop, with a complete 62' 409/409 super stock drivetrain, from a wrecked Biscayne.
But trade the ZR-1?.....NAaaah, fugetaboutit. They're going to bury me in that sucker. :cheers:
-=Jeff=-
04-29-2013, 09:55 AM
Trade?
94 or 95 ZR-1
Possibly a C6 GS or a C7.
But I am happy I have what I have
mike100
04-29-2013, 11:24 AM
AGREE WITH ABOVE! :-)
THREAD ASKS WRONG QUESTION! Should be 'What car would you trade for a ZR-1?' I sold my '08 Viper so i could buy a 2011 silverado 3/4 ton, a gatormade trailer and my '91 ZR-1 (to street/track). Totally satisfied...
So what is it with Vipers anyways? Everybody really wants one until they have one it seems... and a 600hp one at that! Was it just tying up too much cash that you wanted out?
Kind of surprised at all the mentions of those old "W" head motors from the early sixties. What is it with the ZR-1'ers? do we have the hots for "outmoded" performance motors. :confused:
Im surprised at all the interest in the WV-8 as well.
"I can remember after we had run one of those 396 engines enough to know it put out about 100 more horsepower than any 348 or 409 we ever had on the dynamometer."
Maurice "Rosey" Rosenberger
The 1963 427 cubic in "W" engine RPO Z11 with 2 x 4bbl induction was rated at 430hp was the hottest "W" engine, and was installed in a car with a curb weight on3,345lbs when compared to a "standard" 2 door Impala with teh 340hp 409 "W" engine weighed a portly 3,877lbs. That aluminum front end must of done its job weightwise.
There were 57 Z11 cars built according to Paul Prior of Product Promotion said in 1977.
$1,237.40 got you the Z-11 option with the 430hp, 427 cube "W" engine ,Aluminum bumpers (front and rear), alum front end, alum. hood + underhood panels+alum. front inner and outer fenders, 4 speed syncromesh trans, 4.10:1 Positrac rear, metallic brake linings, HD shocks and springs, tach, . It also had a new cowl air induction air cleaner. The 427 had 12.5:1 compression with high port cylinder heads and matching intake manifold. Though rated at 430hp, dyno report were supposedly closer to 500hp.
The Z-11 was the first Chevrolet drag car to have its own RPO.
peace
Hog
I am also interested in finding an LT4 SS Camaro to add to not replace the ZR-1.
LT4 SS Camaro would indeed be a nice car to own. LS1 power in the older GEN 2 conventional 4" bore, 3.48" 350 cube engine.
300rwhp, 12.8 1/4 mile times 106 cars built, 100 for American. 6 Canadian, 2 Prototypes.
For emissions the original LT1 calibration is retained, so getting a proper LT4 calibration flashed into the PCM really wakes these cars up. Proper tuning and LT4 knock module addition will add 30rwhp and 11 rwtq on a stone stock LT4 SS. Raisning the rev limiter up to the proper 6412rpm LT4 level from teh standard LT1 5886 rev limiter helps as well.
All of these LT4's were disassembled, balanced and blue printed and used speciifc Extrude honed exhaust manifolds in order to reach the 330 engine hp while using the stock LT1 calibration. Every 5th engine was dyno tested, and every car was chassis dyno tested.
There were also 33 LT4 Firehawks made.
I remember back in 2008 when LT4 SS #1 was being offerd for sale with 4,300 miles on it for $75,000.
Nice cars.
peace
Hog
USAFPILOT
04-29-2013, 12:46 PM
LT4 SS Camaro would indeed be a nice car to own. LS1 power in the older GEN 2 conventional 4" bore, 3.48" 350 cube engine.
300rwhp, 12.8 1/4 mile times 106 cars built, 100 for American. 6 Canadian, 2 Prototypes.
For emissions the original LT1 calibration is retained, so getting a proper LT4 calibration flashed into the PCM really wakes these cars up. Proper tuning and LT4 knock module addition will add 30rwhp and 11 rwtq on a stone stock LT4 SS. Raisning the rev limiter up to the proper 6412rpm LT4 level from teh standard LT1 5886 rev limiter helps as well.
All of these LT4's were disassembled, balanced and blue printed and used speciifc Extrude honed exhaust manifolds in order to reach the 330 engine hp while using the stock LT1 calibration. Every 5th engine was dyno tested, and every car was chassis dyno tested.
There were also 33 LT4 Firehawks made.
I remember back in 2008 when LT4 SS #1 was being offerd for sale with 4,300 miles on it for $75,000.
Nice cars.
peace
Hog
yep...so if anyone knows of one that is about half that much...I'd like to know about it.
Daniel_Mc
04-29-2013, 01:41 PM
I really like my Z; I have a thing for unique/special cars, or ones with a story behind them. There are not many cars that I would trade the Z for. Nobody said anything BUT if I traded could I then sell the traded car for cash get my Z back and then get another C4? That is if I traded up… HA! That being said I would trade for only 2 cars:
1) Ferrari F40 a street version would be “ok” but would prefer a LM.
2) The 1995 DRM Le Mans ZR-1
Those are pretty much it; I have a few other C4’s on the “Maybe” list. Anyone that knows me knows I am a C4 guy I didn’t buy a Z because it was the “King of the Hill” I didn’t buy the Z as an investment. I got this particular Z because I liked everything that it was, not to mention at the time I was looking for either a SNAT, B2K, or ZR-1. I have had offers to sell and it’s just not going to happen! Sad thing is the 89 L98 car we have is the most un-special car, has the most miles, and is probably in the worst shape out of all of them. I absolutely LOVE that car, I have put WAY too much money, time, and resources into that car but I really don’t ever see myself letting it go. The Z would go before it would and I wouldn’t trade the 89 for anything… I must have a real problem LOL
Daniel
Kevin
04-29-2013, 01:46 PM
LT4 SS Camaro would indeed be a nice car to own. LS1 power in the older GEN 2 conventional 4" bore, 3.48" 350 cube engine.
300rwhp, 12.8 1/4 mile times 106 cars built, 100 for American. 6 Canadian, 2 Prototypes.
For emissions the original LT1 calibration is retained, so getting a proper LT4 calibration flashed into the PCM really wakes these cars up. Proper tuning and LT4 knock module addition will add 30rwhp and 11 rwtq on a stone stock LT4 SS. Raisning the rev limiter up to the proper 6412rpm LT4 level from teh standard LT1 5886 rev limiter helps as well.
All of these LT4's were disassembled, balanced and blue printed and used speciifc Extrude honed exhaust manifolds in order to reach the 330 engine hp while using the stock LT1 calibration. Every 5th engine was dyno tested, and every car was chassis dyno tested.
There were also 33 LT4 Firehawks made.
I remember back in 2008 when LT4 SS #1 was being offerd for sale with 4,300 miles on it for $75,000.
Nice cars.
peace
Hog
those times seem vary....optimistic
USAFPILOT
04-29-2013, 03:59 PM
thing about the LT4 is it just needs the hot cam and tune to be well over 400HP. Couple that with how rare the car is and I don't really care what the time slip says. I think 4th Gen F Bodys are pretty commonly in the 12's. Not to hard to believe for me, and I think it would easily get there, especially with the cam added.
Fully Vetted
04-29-2013, 04:50 PM
I am also interested in finding an LT4 SS Camaro to add to not replace the ZR-1.
I found a couple for sale. They are in the $30k and up range. Super rare, indeed.
JThomas
04-30-2013, 12:06 AM
I would trade my ZR-1 for a C6 ZR1. I realize the newer ZR1 doesn't have the historical value of the ZR-1, but some days when I contort myself in and out of my car, I think, maybe I should go newer. Just returned from Bowling Green this past weekend, from the Bash, in my C6 Z06 and I was comfortable all the way. :thumbsup:
See you in Bowling Green!
XfireZ51
04-30-2013, 12:08 AM
Joe,
You're just a BIG BIG Man!
USAFPILOT
04-30-2013, 03:58 PM
I found a couple for sale. They are in the $30k and up range. Super rare, indeed.
really? where at?
Meanmyz
04-30-2013, 04:59 PM
I would trade my ZR-1 for a C6 ZR1. I realize the newer ZR1 doesn't have the historical value of the ZR-1, but some days when I contort myself in and out of my car, I think, maybe I should go newer. Just returned from Bowling Green this past weekend, from the Bash, in my C6 Z06 and I was comfortable all the way. :thumbsup:
Don't do it Joe, it wouldn't be the same and you know it! Figuratively speaking, fighter planes surely wouldn't be for everyone either. Think of the high sill they have to climb over! And...you pretty much have to strap yourself in.
rkreigh
04-30-2013, 06:02 PM
be better off trading your c6 Z06 and upgrading to a ZR-1
or better still, twin turbo that Z06!!! with the right stuff, a TT Z06 will show tailights to most
I have a "little" LS6 C5 TT Z06 and it's way fun with 800 at the tire.
the LS7 with a few upgrades will do 1k without too much of a sweat and has the nice c6 features which make it even nicer.
but I agree, the "new' ZR-1 is a super nice ride too. just still a bit too much fold for me.
they are in the 80k range, but my limit for hot rods is still 50k and that's too much!
Fully Vetted
04-30-2013, 07:41 PM
really? where at?
10k miles - asking $30k:
http://www.collectorcarnation.com/Camaro/2719587/1997-Camaro-SS-LT4-81-of-100.html
4600 miles - asking $32.5K
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284779
There out there...
TCurtner
05-01-2013, 01:00 PM
So what is it with Vipers anyways? Everybody really wants one until they have one it seems... and a 600hp one at that! Was it just tying up too much cash that you wanted out?
No, FANTASTIC car...nonetheless, for the street, too much attention, on the track too risky/expensive (for my wallet, others i'm sure not so much). For bang-for-the-buck cannot beat my ZR-1. Stops just as well with my C5 brakes with Hawk 70s and corners just as well with racing mods. Not as fast on the long straights (eg. back straight VIR or Road Atlanta, yet - give me some more time and i will attempt to correct!!), but no worries in the turns...If i lose it, i won't go home crying as hard as I would with the Viper. I AM SPEAKING OF MY '91, not a 'late mode' ZR1 of course! I'd sure love THOSE brakes (sigh)
JThomas
05-01-2013, 11:38 PM
be better off trading your c6 Z06 and upgrading to a ZR-1
or better still, twin turbo that Z06!!! with the right stuff, a TT Z06 will show tailights to most
I have a "little" LS6 C5 TT Z06 and it's way fun with 800 at the tire.
the LS7 with a few upgrades will do 1k without too much of a sweat and has the nice c6 features which make it even nicer.
but I agree, the "new' ZR-1 is a super nice ride too. just still a bit too much fold for me.
they are in the 80k range, but my limit for hot rods is still 50k and that's too much!
At 6'6" and 290 lbs. comfort is important to me. I would not trade my Z06 for a ZR1, because I like my Z06 that much. I would however trade my ZR-1 for a C6 ZR1 if I could find the right deal.
Don't get me wrong, I treasure my ZR-1, but sometimes it just seems cramped to me, and I really love to drive and when I drive I like to be comfortable.
I would not mod my Z06 or ZR-1 because I live in that "Originality Camp". I like it the way the General built it. Nothing against the guys that mod their cars. :cheers:
ZRXMAX
05-03-2013, 04:57 AM
1st A dark blue 98 Mc Laren F1 with a wing on it.
2nd 04 or 05 Ford GT
3rd GT 40 replica done right ( I saw one in person recently )
4th TT Callaway ZR-1
No 4WD Bugatti for me [-X
No matter what, it has to be DOHC and 4 valves per cylinder.
BigJohn
05-03-2013, 10:30 PM
At 6'6" and 290 lbs. comfort is important to me. I would not trade my Z06 for a ZR1, because I like my Z06 that much. I would however trade my ZR-1 for a C6 ZR1 if I could find the right deal.
Don't get me wrong, I treasure my ZR-1, but sometimes it just seems cramped to me, and I really love to drive and when I drive I like to be comfortable.
I would not mod my Z06 or ZR-1 because I live in that "Originality Camp". I like it the way the General built it. Nothing against the guys that mod their cars. :cheers:
Hi Joe,
I am 6'6" and 400 lbs. and I have no trouble in my C4's, C5 and C6.
I would and do drive them anywhere even cross-country!
I modify everything, but my 38!
:cheers:
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