Underside of shift plate fastners

[GOLDCYLON]

Anybody out there know what the fastners that the shift boot screws into on the underside of the shifter plate is called and where they are available and perhaps even a size? TIA GC

[WVZR-1]

Anybody out there know what the fastners that the shift boot screws into on the underside of the shifter plate is called and where they are available and perhaps even a size? TIA GC

I see what you need BUT I've an appointment this afternoon. I'll try to sort it this evening. There's 4 and they attach to the exterior of the plastic studs and then 4 tor-x headed screws hold the boot to the plate.

Later today!

[scottfab]

GC, I hope you don't mind me piggy-backing on this thread.

Has any one had the shroud that goes over the center hump
warp on the driver's side? If so what did you do about it?
I'm considering using a heat gun to warm it up then push it back in
or a more extreme fix by putting in a screw through to the hump.
It really annoys me.

[GOLDCYLON]

I see what you need BUT I've an appointment this afternoon. I'll try to sort it this evening. There's 4 and they attach to the exterior of the plastic studs and then 4 tor-x headed screws hold the boot to the plate.

Later today!


Yep those are the ones!!! I knew you would chime in


Thanks WV will make my CF install so much easier!!!

[WVZR-1]

Yep those are the ones!!! I knew you would chime in


Thanks WV will make my CF install so much easier!!!

10175813 should do. Do you have several salvage yards in the area? I'll give you a list of the cars it should fit later. NLA - one dealer in country with 1!!!!

Later today!

[efnfast]

GC, I hope you don't mind me piggy-backing on this thread.

Has any one had the shroud that goes over the center hump
warp on the driver's side? If so what did you do about it?
I'm considering using a heat gun to warm it up then push it back in
or a more extreme fix by putting in a screw through to the hump.
It really annoys me.

Scott, got the same issue. I'm all ears. -Steve

[secondchance]

I see what you need BUT I've an appointment this afternoon. I'll try to sort it this evening. There's 4 and they attach to the exterior of the plastic studs and then 4 tor-x headed screws hold the boot to the plate.

Later today!

FYI - later cars used philips head. These are philips (or torx) with washer head, black oxide finished short sheet metal screws.

[GOLDCYLON]

10175813 should do. Do you have several salvage yards in the area? I'll give you a list of the cars it should fit later. NLA - one dealer in country with 1!!!!

Later today!


I could scavenge from my loaner but Id prefer not to :(

[WVZR-1]

Yep those are the ones!!! I knew you would chime in


Thanks WV will make my CF install so much easier!!!

These will need to be "canabalized" - on any C4 shift plate there will be 4 on M6 cars and there will be 6 on an A4 cars. This nut is also used in a similar location for the C5 - there would be 4 used for the console hinge and 2 used for the console latch. There's 6 used on the Syclone and Typhoon as they're the ONLY Bravada, Jimmy, Blazer, Sonoma "sized" vehicle that had a floor shift.

That's all of the applications I can find for them. There should be many, many available but they might come at a price. I know what I'd use if I needed them but I have none to try and don't have a console plate to measure the exterior diameter and the height of the plastic stud it slips over.

The screw for the C4 is 10180421 and is still available, the fastener is somewhat unique best I recall with a plastic washer. Aside of that it's just a typical 4.2x1.41x13 tor-x or phillips fastener.

[WVZR-1]

GC, I hope you don't mind me piggy-backing on this thread.

Has any one had the shroud that goes over the center hump
warp on the driver's side? If so what did you do about it?
I'm considering using a heat gun to warm it up then push it back in
or a more extreme fix by putting in a screw through to the hump.
It really annoys me.

How about a snapshot of this "situation" - I don't really follow unless maybe you're speaking of the lower console frame. Is it in this image?

http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u595/wvzr-1/Console_zps81aa726a.jpg

[Schrade]

I wonder if anyone on the boards has pulled their manual slusher, and put in an auto, and has all the parts in a box next to my toolbox?

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Point out the parts number their GC, on Dave H 's snappic, and then we'll see what's here...

[WVZR-1]

I wonder if anyone on the boards has pulled their manual slusher, and put in an auto, and has all the parts in a box next to my toolbox?


Point out the parts number their GC, on Dave H 's snappic, and then we'll see what's here...

The part needed isn't on the image of the console, there's no image available but if you turn your console plate over you'll see the shift boot attached with four screws. There's a metal fastener that snaps over the plastic stud that the screw threads into. GC needs the probably zinc colored nut that snaps over the plastic stud. I'm quite sure that's correct, it's been a good while. Take a snapshot of yours, yours should be close by!!

[Schrade]

Woulda' got it posted quicker, but 1-HOUR photo was jammed, and the train, and had to deliver a baby...

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So we huntin' the Ace nut? Or the Deuce nut?


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[Schrade]

I have GM Parts Catalogue for C4 in 12 .PDF files - about 2 Gigs total, if mods / admin wants to tell me how to upload it to the servers...

Oops - 21 .PDF's, only 380 Megs.

[WVZR-1]

Woulda' got it posted quicker, but 1-HOUR photo was jammed, and the train, and had to deliver a baby...



So we huntin' the Ace nut? Or the Deuce nut?

The acorn nuts have nothing to do with the discussion. If you remove the screws you'll see the nut I described, snapped over a plastic stud. Simple enough I thought!

[Schrade]

The acorn nuts have nothing to do with the discussion. If you remove the screws you'll see the nut I described, snapped over a plastic stud. Simple enough I thought!


I'm kinda' slow sometimes there Sir !

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But OTHER times now, I'm snoozin' ;)








And I need a pic of the ECM separated from the harness interface, if anyone has it. Looks like it has connectors IN SERIES :confused:

[GOLDCYLON]

I'm kinda' slow sometimes there Sir !

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But OTHER times now, I'm snoozin' ;)









And I need a pic of the ECM separated from the harness interface, if anyone has it. Looks like it has connectors IN SERIES :confused:

Its the threaded receiver portion that is mated to the underside of the console where the screws mount the shifter boot.

So if you were to remove the shifter leather boot from the console shifter plate, these four little buggers are mated to 4 hollow posts on the underside of the console.

[WVZR-1]

Its the threaded receiver portion that is mated to the underside of the console where the screws mount the shifter boot.

So if you were to remove the shifter leather boot from the console shifter plate, these four little buggers are mated to 4 hollow posts on the underside of the console.

GC,

If he removed the screws and the shift boot the only thing left would be the retainer/nut that I mentioned. It would be exactly as you described in the quoted text. For cannibalization I mentioned earlier where and in what vehicles.

There should be busted up console plates everywhere. Find an A4 plate and there would be 6. I'm guessing you bought a core that the boot and hardware had been removed from? If you could get the screws also it would be a plus, I believe it likely includes a plastic washer or originally did.

[Schrade]

Its the threaded receiver portion that is mated to the underside of the console where the screws mount the shifter boot.

So if you were to remove the shifter leather boot from the console shifter plate, these four little buggers are mated to 4 hollow posts on the underside of the console.

You're welcome to whatever there is. Is this something that can be broken down, without breakage from brittle parts? Or can you use the whole unit? (this is '90 hardware)

[GOLDCYLON]

You're welcome to whatever there is. Is this something that can be broken down, without breakage from brittle parts? Or can you use the whole unit? (this is '90 hardware)


Lol a bayonet is a solution. No not really I did this on my pops 96 CE before he sold it a couple of weeks ago and bought a 2011 CTSV

They have to be pulled/broken off cleaned out (Plastic removed) from these fastners. I would be interested if the upper trim is already trashed scraped etc. I would not want to damage a perfect upper shift plate from a MY 90

At the time I was thinking man I sould just buy these from GM but as WV points out its not an option at this time.

[Schrade]

I sprayed it with silicone / alcohol, and got it separated and cleaned off (no breakage).

PM @ me if you're interested. The whole lot wouldn't be more than a few bucks...

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and underside...

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[GOLDCYLON]

I circled the parts I need. Thanks GC

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[WVZR-1]

GC

I believe I might have these fasteners sourced! I need the diameter of the plastic stud! Metric or SAE will do! I actually would prefer metric and I'm looking for 8.0 or 9.52 for the stud. If you've got a fastener loose I'd like height and external dimension. 8.99 or 10.72 OD and 5.84 height. Hopefully those dimensions will work! The fastener could be measured without removing it from the stud.

Chuck - you could accomplish that it looks like also.
-Dave

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[GOLDCYLON]

Ok it will have to wait until I get home tonight. Thanks GC

[VetteVet]

I come up with approx:

10.16mm stud O.D.
11.43mm nut O.D. (at widest point (base))
5.56mm nut height

All measured with nuts still installed on console plate, so they may not be exact, but were done with a dial caliper. Should be easily within 0.05 mm.

Jep

[GOLDCYLON]

I come up with approx:

10.16mm stud O.D.
11.43mm nut O.D. (at widest point (base))
5.56mm nut height

All measured with nuts still installed on console plate, so they may not be exact, but were done with a dial caliper. Should be easily within 0.05 mm.

Jep


Awesome thanks Jep

[WVZR-1]

I had narrowed my choices to 2 and located them - one of them there were 5700 on the shelf, the other 112000 due the week of 2/4. I'm inclined to believe we need those that will arrive next week. Somebody "really likes" these for something!!

The gal I spoke to is going to attempt to confirm the ship and call me in the morning. I'm guessing it's NOT "life threatening" so I'm going to wait her call. She was certainly helpful.

The product has SAE and METRIC specs that are:

SAE: stud .372 - .378

METRIC: stud 9.52mm

The other possibility is that GM had the part produced to their specification. Not unheard of. I don't have a console part here to check.

The other production part choice calls for a stud diameter of 12.7mm and that seems dramatically large considering JEP's measurements!

[GOLDCYLON]

I had narrowed my choices to 2 and located them - one of them there were 5700 on the shelf, the other 112000 due the week of 2/4. I'm inclined to believe we need those that will arrive next week. Somebody "really likes" these for something!!

The gal I spoke to is going to attempt to confirm the ship and call me in the morning. I'm guessing it's NOT "life threatening" so I'm going to wait her call. She was certainly helpful.

The product has SAE and METRIC specs that are:

SAE: stud .372 - .378

METRIC: stud 9.52mm

The other possibility is that GM had the part produced to their specification. Not unheard of. I don't have a console part here to check.

The other production part choice calls for a stud diameter of 12.7mm and that seems dramatically large considering JEP's measurements!

Dave Schrade is sending me his however I learned that these come off the earlier shift plates rather easy. Obviously the issue I had was with my pops 94 and up shifter plate where the fastners were melted into the post and had to be broken of. however is you ordered these i will pay for them. Thanks so much for all your help, GC

[WVZR-1]

Dave Schrade is sending me his however I learned that these come off the earlier shift plates rather easy. Obviously the issue I had was with my pops 94 and up shifter plate where the fastners were melted into the post and had to be broken of. however is you ordered these i will pay for them. Thanks so much for all your help, GC

These need to be secured to the stud in some fashion prior to secureing the boot with the screws. I'd maybe use some Testors, emblem adhesive of some sort or what might be ideal is the black butyl that is used as windshield sealant. It sets quite securely.

[GOLDCYLON]

These need to be secured to the stud in some fashion prior to secureing the boot with the screws. I'd maybe use some Testors, emblem adhesive of some sort or what might be ideal is the black butyl that is used as windshield sealant. It sets quite securely.


I used window sealent and it worked great