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tomtom72
01-13-2013, 07:11 PM
This car so far is well thought out! Kudos to the engineering staff!!:fahne:


I think I'm in LUST with a a car! I can even take the tail lights, round ones would not have worked with the rest of the car. Jez, the functional stuff on the body just amazes me! Okay I'll stop now.

Hey did anyone notice the nod to our cars???? In the beginning they had some film clips and our ZR-1 was in there!

Z51JEFF
01-13-2013, 07:17 PM
If your talking about the unveiling at the auto show,I WANT TO SEE THE DAMN CAR ALREADY!

tomtom72
01-13-2013, 07:18 PM
I think too many people are on UTube because mine just went into buffering mode & locked up! Drat!

Z51JEFF
01-13-2013, 07:20 PM
Never mind................I just saw it.All the speculations are true,the car is UGLY.

tomtom72
01-13-2013, 07:28 PM
Okay, it isn't the most flowing body design I've ever seen.....but I think this is truly a case of function dictating form. JMHO.

It's very abrupt in it's lines. There isn't anything soft about this body style. I still like it. It speaks to the "little boy racer" in me! :o

:cheers:
Tom

ZR1North
01-13-2013, 07:30 PM
I watched it. I'll be keen to learn more about the car and see it in person next weekend when I visit the show, but the the technology is quite impressive.

I love the front and flowing lines of the car. The rear will take a while to grow on us, but let's not forget what the ties said at the beginning - they have to build a car that is not only true to Corvette, but appeals to the emerging market and for that, they have to pay attention to what is going on in the international market. As Tom said, round lights would not have worked with it. Despite the (what appears to be rectangular) tail lights, this "ain't no Camaro".

Mystic ZR-1
01-13-2013, 07:37 PM
I like it! Other than the glow-winkie LEDs around the headlites and the Camaro taillites it's pretty nice Still only has one cam and half as many valves...
:fahne:

LGAFF
01-13-2013, 07:38 PM
Looks good, functional ....no fake inlets or scoops....nice work GM

zr1mom
01-13-2013, 07:39 PM
http://www.edmunds.com/auto-shows/detroit/2013/2014-chevrolet-corvette-unveiling-jump-starts-2013-detroit-auto-show.html

Mystic ZR-1
01-13-2013, 07:41 PM
Car & Driver magazine pretty much had it nailed!

tomtom72
01-13-2013, 07:43 PM
If anyone is interested the NCM's feed seems to be working. I had to bail on U-Tube.

C4Fan
01-13-2013, 07:56 PM
Good job GM unveiling the new Corvette. Mark Reuss was almost giddy. You gotta love that kind of passion.

I do like the fact that they basically updated the 1990-1993 C4 jet fighter inspired cockpit of our ZR-1s. They reference the inspiration in the press release but fail to mention the C4 specifically. Nevertheless, it's one of the best features about a later model C4. It looks nice with the updated electronics and production materials of today.

pantera1683
01-13-2013, 08:21 PM
Never mind................I just saw it.All the speculations are true,the car is UGLY.

The rear end is horrible. Other than that...Gorgeous!!!

ghlkal
01-13-2013, 08:27 PM
I do like the fact that they basically updated the 1990-1993 C4 jet fighter inspired cockpit of our ZR-1s. They reference the inspiration in the press release but fail to mention the C4 specifically. Nevertheless, it's one of the best features about a later model C4. It looks nice with the updated electronics and production materials of today.

I, too, like the IP. Is that driver customizable? (change layout and position of gauges, etc)

efnfast
01-13-2013, 09:23 PM
Wow, what a car. Shame about the rear end.

Blue Flame Restorations
01-13-2013, 09:48 PM
The rear end is horrible. Other than that...Gorgeous!!!


I agree 100%. They did so well until the rear was revealed. Kind of like seeing the girl at the bar sitting down. Nice until she stands up and has an azz like a bag full of hammers.

Since 1963, the Corvette has had distinct tail lights. You could always tell the car was a Corvette. Especially at night.

Not anymore. They should have sent Tadge on a long vacation in a Camaro. The tail lights look like every other GM product of today. Cruz, Malibu, Camaro, etc..

sammy
01-13-2013, 09:50 PM
i kinda like it . would like to see pics of the interior .

Z51JEFF
01-13-2013, 10:07 PM
I agree 100%. They did so well until the rear was revealed. Kind of like seeing the girl at the bar sitting down. Nice until she stands up and has an azz like a bag full of hammers.


Aint that the truth.I do like the 91 inspired interior.;)

cvette98pacecar
01-13-2013, 10:16 PM
I liked it from the first rendition that I ever saw. But, I especially like the Brakes

Standard Brembo brakes, with four-piston fixed calipers derived from racing, deliver exceptional stopping power on the street or track. System highlights include:

12.6-inch (320 mm) front rotors and 13.3-inch (338 mm) rear rotors are standard and have 35 percent more swept area than previous-generation brakes. Consequently stopping distance is improved 9 percent
Dual-cast, slotted 13.6-inch (345 mm) front rotors and 13.3-inch (338 mm) slotted rear rotors are included with Z51 Performance Package. They have 6percent more swept area than the previous-generation Grand Sport and are cooled front and rear for improved track capability. Consequently stopping distance is improved 5 percent
All brake packages have fixed front and rear calipers are stiffer for more even pad wear, reduced drag and improved modulation.

thethrillofspeed
01-13-2013, 10:47 PM
I like the car, but the rear end of the Vette's hasn't been good looking since 1996.

cvette98pacecar
01-13-2013, 10:57 PM
The rear end is growing on me already. All I see is the four whopping exhaust port.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa468/rdemarco06/C5C6C7Comparison04_zpsb4204859.jpg

Fully Vetted
01-13-2013, 10:58 PM
Even they new the rearand was going to get mixed reviews. Did you notice how long it took to actually reveal it. We saw numerous shots of the front, the sides, the interior and then finally they showed it. They wanted you to fall in love with the rest of the car before they showed the back.

Again, I don't how they could get the rest of the car so right and the rearend so wrong. What a shame...

pantera1683
01-13-2013, 11:23 PM
The rear end is growing on me already. All I see is the four whopping exhaust port.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa468/rdemarco06/C5C6C7Comparison04_zpsb4204859.jpg

That rear end is a complete let down:cry:. It looks like it should be in a crappy sci-fi movie.

Fully Vetted
01-13-2013, 11:45 PM
Body Double:


http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1907

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1908


Body double:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=215&pictureid=1851

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1909


Just sayin'...

XfireZ51
01-14-2013, 12:04 AM
I'm in! And I think that rear will look awesome at night. Makes the C6 look dated. Waiting for the ZR1 now.

Z51JEFF
01-14-2013, 12:08 AM
The rear end is growing on me already. All I see is the four whopping exhaust port.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa468/rdemarco06/C5C6C7Comparison04_zpsb4204859.jpg

I see this car and all I see is the Camaro influence.Through the rear window,C pillars and that nasty bumper.I do like the quarter windows.

Z51JEFF
01-14-2013, 12:09 AM
Body Double:


http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1907

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1908


Body double:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=215&pictureid=1851

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1909


Just sayin'...
Let me get that sand for ya.

efnfast
01-14-2013, 06:31 AM
It's a Corvette, it should have four round taillights (or square with soft corners), and pop up headlights. The rear end looks droopy. The Corvette is suppose to lead the Camaro, not the other way around.

BigJohn
01-14-2013, 06:51 AM
I will hold any Comments until I see it live and drive it.
It may be underpowered, but I still might like it.
I love driving my 38 and it only has 80hp.

:cheers:

Paul Workman
01-14-2013, 09:28 AM
The look...is underwhelming to me, far as being able to step out from other designs: copy-cat in so many ways (it seems) From the front at a rather short distance, it strikes me as a C6 or Farrari 458. From the rear, a Camaro (as others have said). Then, looking at the Farrari 458 (2011)...tell me if any of the new look is familiar? Check out the headlights and the Audi A6/8s. Compare to the 2011 458 Italia...

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x220/6PPC_bucket/Ferrari_458_Italia_--_05-18-2011_zps832446cf.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x220/6PPC_bucket/220px-2010-2011_Ferrari_458_Italia_coupe_2011-03-23_03_zpsc78f3010.jpg

Seen from a not-too-far distance, the resemblance of the C7 to the Farrari 458 (especially the front end) is...striking.

Up front, I will say it appears the new Vette will eclipse the base C6, or let's certainly hope so. But aside from that, is the new C7 truly remarkable?

From a performance perspective, the ZR-1 was designed to do more than keeping up with the Jones'. It was to eclipse the competition, and it did. Of course the jury is still out, but the C7 doesn't appear (to me) to be more than a marginal attempt at simply keeping up with the "Jones' stopping short of eclipsing performance provided by the competition benchmarked 2-3 years ago.

Stirring the pot (as TomTom often accuses me of;))

For example, the Farrari 458 might be an an example of the competition, circa 2011. It featured a NA 4.5L V8 that makes gobs of "power under the curve". 80% of the peak torque (398 ft #) is available at 3200 rpm and 82% at 9000 rpm!! It makes 562 hp @ 9000 rpm redline (read: pulls hard and smooth all the way across the tach and doesn't fall on its nose until it hits the redline:jawdrop:, hits the 62 mph speed in 3.4 seconds.

Read here and compare... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_458_Italia#Specifications)

At the risk of sounding cynical, and inspite of all the hype and hoopla, the new LT1 pales in comparison to the sports car competition offerings currently in place (or for that matter to an LT5 with similar CID); e.g., Mercedes, Aston-Martin, & Farrari 458. Early dyno graphs of the well hyped LT1 is so typical of pushrod motors = big impressive mid-range torque, but torque falls off too early (resulting in a 6500 rpm cuttoff (yawn)). That will bode well with autocross and street racers and pickup truck drivers, but for flat-out racing, giving up 2500 rpm and 132 hp and 80%+ of 398 ft # torque from 3200 to 9000 rpm...is going to be a bitch to keep up with; if engine were the sole factor. (But, you can bet the street racers and half ton pickup truck drivers will be singing its praises to the moon...:neutral: Just sayin.)

OK, I admit I like the high-reving and the flat torque curves of the DOHC platforms. And, it doesn't appear my wish for a mid-engine Corvette is ever going to be a reality. That may explain my "reservation of joy" or at least jading my assesment to the point of being initially underwhelmed by the C7. (I hope to be wrong!) But, then again, this is the BASE car, and for the money, Corvette has a world beater and deserves a lot of credit. But, first place is first place in a race. Until elapsed time at the track is factored by the price paid for the car, claiming, "Yeah but, the Vette is cheaper" isn't going to give anyone goosebumps.

Don't get me wrong; its a helluva car. I guess I hoped for and expected more for the C7. But, what do I know...

P.

WARP TEN
01-14-2013, 11:01 AM
http://www.edmunds.com/auto-shows/detroit/2013/2014-chevrolet-corvette-unveiling-jump-starts-2013-detroit-auto-show.html

A lot of good pictures there. I am not a big fan of the Camaro tailights, and the rear hatch design suggests rearward visibility will be restricted. Othewise not a bad looking Corvette. A decent evolutionary redesign. -- Bob

alwayscode390
01-14-2013, 11:20 AM
Here are the specs I heard GM released:

base price $53,000
length 177"
width 73.9"
height 48.6"
curb weight 3350 lbs
top speed 190 mph
0-60 in 3.9 sec
1/4 mile in 12.3 at 118 ---

Im not too impressed, considering our cars were doing close to the same numbers 23 years ago.

Im ready to be WOWED by the "premium models" performance figures though ---

Fully Vetted
01-14-2013, 12:29 PM
The look...is underwhelming to me, far as being able to step out from other designs: copy-cat in so many ways (it seems) From the front at a rather short distance, it strikes me as a C6 or Farrari 458. From the rear, a Camaro (as others have said). Then, looking at the Farrari 458 (2011)...tell me if any of the new look is familiar? Check out the headlights and the Audi A6/8s. Compare to the 2011 458 Italia...

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x220/6PPC_bucket/Ferrari_458_Italia_--_05-18-2011_zps832446cf.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x220/6PPC_bucket/220px-2010-2011_Ferrari_458_Italia_coupe_2011-03-23_03_zpsc78f3010.jpg

Seen from a not-too-far distance, the resemblance of the C7 to the Farrari 458 (especially the front end) is...striking.

Up front, I will say it appears the new Vette will eclipse the base C6, or let's certainly hope so. But aside from that, is the new C7 truly remarkable?

P.

I think it looks more like a Viper from the front but your point is the same, Paul.



http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1905

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1906

Fully Vetted
01-14-2013, 12:54 PM
If you look at it the Camaro resemblance actually starts aft of the doors.


http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1912

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1913

tomtom72
01-14-2013, 02:48 PM
This may be redundant, but I just got this in my mail.

http://www.corvetteonline.com/news/c7-stingray-preliminary-specifications-and-uber-gallery/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=c7-stingray-preliminary-specifications-and-uber-gallery

it has quite a good bit of the nuts & bolts....not real deep FSM stuff, but better than I found on GM.com ;)

:cheers:
Tom

WARP TEN
01-14-2013, 03:34 PM
This may be redundant, but I just got this in my mail.

http://www.corvetteonline.com/news/c7-stingray-preliminary-specifications-and-uber-gallery/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=c7-stingray-preliminary-specifications-and-uber-gallery

it has quite a good bit of the nuts & bolts....not real deep FSM stuff, but better than I found on GM.com ;)

:cheers:
Tom

Actually I thought it was quite comprehensive. Certainly the most informative writeup I have seen yet. I'd like to see more about how the gauges change and what they all look like. --Bob

XfireZ51
01-14-2013, 03:47 PM
The controversy is good for Corvette. For myself, I think they have brought out a thoroughly modern car. I believe it dates the C6.
I wish they could have utilized a DOHC motor, but the technology in the LT1 is pretty impressive nonetheless. I'm looking forward to seeing this car in the flesh when it gets here in Chicago. Be very interesting to see the exact proportions. I think the interior is great and evokes the best of the late model C4/ZR-1 Corvettes. Overall, it looks like a car that will stand out in traffic. Renderings of the Cyber Gray and Black cars show up as
"something evil this way comes" look. YAY!

Bob Eyres
01-14-2013, 04:36 PM
I'll reserve judgment until I see one, but overall I think it's a step up from the C6.
I think Bill Mitchell would be proud of the overall body, fairly radical in the pix.

I'm a big fan of the C4 body, but not the C5, or C6.

You can't say it doesn't look badass, but they still haven't really done a great rear end. Like almost everyone, I think the tail lights should be round, or oval.

Front looks great, dig the big hood vents, but those LED's around the headlights are tacky. When you've got a beautiful space ship you don't drape a string of pearls on the nose.

There's a silver one in some clips on you tube.....nice.

XfireZ51
01-14-2013, 04:45 PM
Bob,

Have you seen how the front end looks at night w the lights on? Snarly.
Also, not sure if anyone caught this, but they dumped the fog lamps. Let's face it, the fogs were pretty worthless other than looking cool and being able to drive at night(especially in town) without the headlamps on. I would rather have the LEDs for the DRLs than yellow lights they have now.

mgg
01-14-2013, 05:08 PM
I thinks this car is a great continuation of Corvettes. Not everyone will like just like not evryone like all of the previous generation cars. This car in my mind makes a clear statement that performance is the mission. I believe that this car is unbelievably engineered and will prove to be formidable on the track and street. With all of the new restrictions and limitations the engineers had to work with I think it is stellar. Sure it is different but it is agressive , sinister and wicked looking. The interior looks great as well as being practical. I just don't get all the Camaro comparisons. THese two cars side by side will be much different. I think GM was thinking they need to break away a little bit from the past to entice new , younger buyers. All I can think of is, if I saw this car and I was in my teens I would be going nuts. I do not think for one minute that this car will disapoint with regards to performance and style. I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE C7R will look like with this style. It will be beyond wicked. Great job guys.

XfireZ51
01-14-2013, 05:26 PM
I thinks this car is a great continuation of Corvettes. Not everyone will like just like not evryone like all of the previous generation cars. This car in my mind makes a clear statement that performance is the mission. I believe that this car is unbelievably engineered and will prove to be formidable on the track and street. With all of the new restrictions and limitations the engineers had to work with I think it is stellar. Sure it is different but it is agressive , sinister and wicked looking. The interior looks great as well as being practical. I just don't get all the Camaro comparisons. THese two cars side by side will be much different. I think GM was thinking they need to break away a little bit from the past to entice new , younger buyers. All I can think of is, if I saw this car and I was in my teens I would be going nuts. I do not think for one minute that this car will disapoint with regards to performance and style. I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE C7R will look like with this style. It will be beyond wicked. Great job guys.

:thumbsup:

efnfast
01-14-2013, 09:07 PM
mgg, a Corvette is not for teens, that's what camaros are for. I think the engineering is mind blowing on this car, the diff has a heat exchanger that exits throught the tail lights. Way cool. Still very disappointed they saw fit to do away with Corvette tail lights.

zr1mom
01-14-2013, 09:09 PM
Interesting how everyone is so focus on the look, which I fully understand as this is all we have at the moment. My bet is once some us drive this thing we'll walk away with a whole different perspective with terms like "Wow" and "Holy S**t"! When the ZR-1 first came out many said it looked too much like a standard C4 and didn't think the performance would be that big of a difference. After folks took a test drive thru the dealer or from friends would walk away saying I have to have one of these!!!

So time will tell let's see what folks have to say after driving one. :-)

XfireZ51
01-14-2013, 09:28 PM
Interesting how everyone is so focus on the look, which I fully understand as this is all we have at the moment. My bet is once some us drive this thing we'll walk away with a whole different perspective with terms like "Wow" and "Holy S**t"! When the ZR-1 first came out many said it looked too much like a standard C4 and didn't think the performance would be that big of a difference. After folks took a test drive thru the dealer or from friends would walk away saying I have to have one of these!!!

So time will tell let's see what folks have to say after driving one. :-)

Well said. Then form will follow function.

Fully Vetted
01-14-2013, 10:05 PM
Interesting how everyone is so focus on the look, which I fully understand as this is all we have at the moment. My bet is once some us drive this thing we'll walk away with a whole different perspective with terms like "Wow" and "Holy S**t"! When the ZR-1 first came out many said it looked too much like a standard C4 and didn't think the performance would be that big of a difference. After folks took a test drive thru the dealer or from friends would walk away saying I have to have one of these!!!

So time will tell let's see what folks have to say after driving one. :-)

If I'm buying what is supposed to be a world class sports car the total package should be spot on. I think this car is awesome. I love every aspect. But, if I bought one I would literally half to back in every time I parked it. The rear end is absolutely embarrasing. I'm not even saying the tail lights should be round or square or oval... Just not what they are now! I just can't believe that's the best they could come up with.

Blue Flame Restorations
01-14-2013, 10:31 PM
If I'm buying what is supposed to be a world class sports car the total package should be spot on. I think this car is awesome. I love every aspect. But, if I bought one I would literally half to back in every time I parked it. The rear end is absolutely embarrasing. I'm not even saying the tail lights should be round or square or oval... Just not what they are now! I just can't believe that's the best they could come up with.

I agree

So nice except for the rear end.

Fully Vetted
01-14-2013, 11:07 PM
Why is it the rear end of the Vette has always been so controversial? While the styling from C2 to C3 was a dramatic overall change as well as from C3 to C4, I'd have to say overall styling has been well received until the last few redesigns. I honestly can't remember the reaction to the C4 rearend but isn't that when the critics started talking about how big the back end was? I know the C5 wasn't received well and even though I like the C6 it wasn't either. Why is it so difficult to come up with a Corvette rearend that is as striking as the rest of the car? All the other manufacturers seem to be able to do it. GTR - fantastic, Ford GT - perfection, Viper - outstanding, C7 - The Predator. I don't get it.

XfireZ51
01-14-2013, 11:35 PM
Because Vette guys are assmen! Just look at Bryan's posts every week.

Fully Vetted
01-15-2013, 12:56 AM
C7 is already being photoshopped with better rear end.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-general-discussion/3199922-came-across-this-photoshop-pic.html

thethrillofspeed
01-16-2013, 12:04 AM
Why is it the rear end of the Vette has always been so controversial? While the styling from C2 to C3 was a dramatic overall change as well as from C3 to C4, I'd have to say overall styling has been well received until the last few redesigns. I honestly can't remember the reaction to the C4 rearend but isn't that when the critics started talking about how big the back end was? I know the C5 wasn't received well and even though I like the C6 it wasn't either. Why is it so difficult to come up with a Corvette rearend that is as striking as the rest of the car? All the other manufacturers seem to be able to do it. GTR - fantastic, Ford GT - perfection, Viper - outstanding, C7 - The Predator. I don't get it.

My guess, golf clubs. That has been mandatory since the big butt C5.

tomtom72
01-16-2013, 07:46 AM
Paul, I'm sorry about the stirring the pot comment.....no really I am.
:o


It's just that I had wanted to post exactly what you did when they asked "Let's see your valve covers"....:sign10: You just beat me to it!:mrgreen:

:cheers:
Tom

4CAM LT5
01-16-2013, 09:02 AM
The C7 makes the C6 looked so old, to my eye. But, then again, that sixth generation design was first being 'penned' back in the early 2000's. Can't wait to see the C7 in-person....and to drive one.

mike100
01-16-2013, 03:20 PM
I really want one, but the compromise would be that both of my vettes would have to go. At the very least 1 vette and maybe my daily driver would get sold.

I want to have my cake and eat it too.

wprice
01-16-2013, 05:08 PM
VERY COOL!!!

rkreigh
01-16-2013, 06:33 PM
Body Double:


http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1907

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1908


Body double:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=215&pictureid=1851

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1909


Just sayin'...

good stuff. the ZR-1 definitely wins the sexy butt award among recent vettes. overall I like the new C7 Ferrarmo (looks like a ferrari mated with a camaro) the front swoopy curves to me is an improvement over the c5 and c6 which I like but not as much as the C7. the c7 rear is a bit too busy and "function over form" seems to be the criteria.

put some body colored "eye lids" at the end of the tail lights, and black out the back and it won't be too bad. one thing for sure. the new c7 is going to be a solid performing car and still get some decent MPG. just hope they sell enough of them to keep it a "short run" and get the c8 and a NEW LT5 on the drawing board. how about something simple like a TT DOHC V8 using the parts from the Ecotech parts bin. very feasible, low development costs, and it would help meet the more stringent CAFE that threatens performance in the future. or better still, twin micro turbines and 4 electric motors with a very small 50 mile battery array with 800 hp and 1000 ft lbs of torque like the new Jag CX75 alas, that car will not be made. (it too has a pretty sexy butt!!!)

I wasn't too big on the c5 either, but a quick tiger shark front with the Specter werks (I call it a Tiger Werkes) and a TT kit made the C5 "bearable"

that said, I still drive the ZR-1 more often. nothing sounds or feels like it and 500 rwhp is really just as good as 800 rwhp on the street.

the C5 TT Tiger is more of a hoot above 100 though and will easily crest 200 with the 3.45 rear

Fully Vetted
01-16-2013, 07:17 PM
What'd you do to your '95 to get that kind of power?

WB9MCW
01-17-2013, 10:57 AM
Because Vette guys are assmen! Just look at Bryan's posts every week.

NOW THIS IS VERY FUNNY!! :cheers:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1907

It does appear to be "frowning" and not a happy/sexy looking azz.

The square rear window is a bummer IMO - less curves and flowing design.

How is a VERT going to look with this new design?

Does the top come off on the standard model?

alwayscode390
01-17-2013, 11:08 AM
Yes, the base model is a carbon fiber Targa Top ---

XfireZ51
01-17-2013, 11:18 AM
Bryan,

Here's your answer
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18bpqboz5zsv5jpg/original.jpg



http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18bpqboz92vfojpg/original.jpg

WB9MCW
01-17-2013, 11:38 AM
Thanks XfireZ51

Much more impressive with the top off!

Wonder what it looks like with the vert top up and in place?

XfireZ51
01-17-2013, 11:52 AM
Here's the C7 with a great set of wheels on it. Very Nice!

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg635/CoreyWheelsBoutique/Corvette-Stingray-C7-HRE-Djcopy.jpg

WVZR-1
01-17-2013, 12:11 PM
Here's the C7 with a great set of wheels on it. Very Nice!

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg635/CoreyWheelsBoutique/Corvette-Stingray-C7-HRE-Djcopy.jpg

Yes but look at the "rubber bands" that are wrapped around them I can't get my mind around "no sidewall".

BigJohn
01-17-2013, 12:13 PM
NOW THIS IS VERY FUNNY!! :cheers:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=220&pictureid=1907

It does appear to be "frowning" and not a happy/sexy looking azz.

The square rear window is a bummer IMO - less curves and flowing design.

How is a VERT going to look with this new design?

Does the top come off on the standard model?


At least with the new rear window the cars you see in the rearveiw mirror will not look like they are melting; like in the C6's.


:cheers:

Paul Workman
01-17-2013, 12:35 PM
At least with the new rear window the cars you see in the rearveiw mirror will not look like they are melting; like in the C6's.


:cheers:

Mebby...IF you can even see em.

But, then again, in the words of Raul Julia ("The Gumball Rally"),

"What's behind me...is NOT important!":sign10:

Paul Workman
01-17-2013, 12:40 PM
Why is it the rear end of the Vette has always been so controversial? *snip*.

Because...When that part of the car is about what all other drivers ever get to see, we wanna make sure it looks really good, and not like the neigbor's Camaro. :mrgreen:

P.

Fully Vetted
01-17-2013, 03:28 PM
That explains why it's important to the public. But it doesn't explain why GM can't seem to come up with a homerun design. I can name a dozen cars in various price ranges that have beautifully designed rear ends. Why is it GM can't seem to get the Corvette right. Like I said, I can't believe the same design chief that approved the rest of the car approved the rear of this car. I would say 70+% of the reaction to the rear and of this car has been negative while probably 85+% of the reaction to the rest of the car has been positive.

Fully Vetted
01-17-2013, 03:30 PM
Bryan,

Here's your answer
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18bpqboz5zsv5jpg/original.jpg



http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18bpqboz92vfojpg/original.jpg


I guess my hopes of the top coming down and covering up the back end have been crushed...

BigJohn
01-17-2013, 04:04 PM
That explains why it's important to the public. But it doesn't explain why GM can't seem to come up with a homerun design. I can name a dozen cars in various price ranges that have beautifully designed rear ends. Why is it GM can't seem to get the Corvette right. Like I said, I can't believe the same design chief that approved the rest of the car approved the rear of this car. I would say 70+% of the reaction to the rear and of this car has been negative while probably 85+% of the reaction to the rest of the car has been positive.

He probably drives a Honda they look that way coming and going!!!

:cheers:

rkreigh
01-17-2013, 07:06 PM
What'd you do to your '95 to get that kind of power?

Lingenfelter 390 stroker, with ported heads, big valves, cams, no secondaries

engine has ti rods, only 390 built that I know of. it has 80k miles and pulls just as strong as it did when new

Fully Vetted
01-17-2013, 07:57 PM
Lingenfelter 390 stroker, with ported heads, big valves, cams, no secondaries

engine has ti rods, only 390 built that I know of. it has 80k miles and pulls just as strong as it did when new

I can't imagine.... I know how hard my car pulls. I can't imagine adding another 100 hp.

rkreigh
01-22-2013, 05:07 PM
I can't imagine.... I know how hard my car pulls. I can't imagine adding another 100 hp.


you get used to the power pretty quickly and realize that better tires are the biggest need. I drive the car around on hoosier drag radials and it really hooks and goes.

the 800 rwhp TT Z06 is the scarey one. I usually dial it down to 600 at the tires as that's the practical limit for what I can hook up.

one day I really need a TT ZR-1 I think 750 rwhp would do it. After riding in Will B.s car I'll never be the same. that LPE TT ZR-1 is soooo nice.

GOLDCYLON
01-23-2013, 07:19 PM
I so love these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKRrXvrSukc

vilant
01-23-2013, 07:51 PM
I so love these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKRrXvrSukc
:sign10:

tomtom72
01-24-2013, 08:08 AM
I so love these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKRrXvrSukc

Was that Bell's Palsey?....or did you just get lapped by a C7?:thumbsup:

:cheers:

Z51JEFF
01-26-2013, 11:06 PM
Ive got to admit,Im starting to warm up to the car.I really like the looks of the gray car.The sharp bodylines are starting to grow on me and the ashtrays in the rear quarters seem to flow better in the darker colored cars.

tomtom72
01-28-2013, 10:59 AM
at the very end of this vid you get a very clear view of the car's back end.

:o I'm sorry, but to me these are not Camaro tail lights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKrQrAn_hNA



:cheers:
Tom