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Corbusa
01-03-2013, 09:32 PM
I just ordered obx headers and dynomax mufflers (I didnt order tips yet ). not sure which ones double walled ? length ? Is there anything else I need to make the header install complete ? Easier ? Locking bolts ? studs ? I'll get gaskets from Jerry . Any other advise ? PS I also ordered a summit x pipe and will get the factory exhaust ceramic coated.
secondchance
01-03-2013, 09:53 PM
I just ordered obx headers and dynomax mufflers (I didnt order tips yet ). not sure which ones double walled ? length ? Is there anything else I need to make the header install complete ? Easier ? Locking bolts ? studs ? I'll get gaskets from Jerry . Any other advise ? PS I also ordered a summit x pipe and will get the factory exhaust ceramic coated.
I would recommend ceramic coating for the headers. I had mine done by Jet-Hot coating and impressed w/ Randy's service.
Also,get a set of header gaskets.I gotminefrom Jerry's gasket.
As for the header bolts, I used Stage 8 from Summit - http://www.summitracing.com/parts/STG-8908/
Did not use locking tabs (not enough room nor patience) but worked fine. If pre 93 each side has 16 bolt holes. If 93 or later, 14 bolt holes each side. A couple of holes are tough to get the bolts started due to curvature of runners. It helps if bolts are cut to 3/4" or so. I got all 14 on one side and 13 on the other side mine is a 94.
Getting factory exhaust ceramic coated will cost you a few bucks -at least $300 or more - just my guess. Consider OBX SS exhaust - http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-Catback-Exhaust-FIT-FOR-90-95-Corvette-C4-ZR1-LT5-5-7L-Chevy-/221170606830?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item337ecba2ee&vxp=mtr
Looks like the price went up to $549. When I got mine it was $350. I strongly recommend using Torca band clamps since the band clamps that come w/ the exhaust are junks. However, the exhaust itself is a very good piece and I have no regrets.
Corbusa
01-03-2013, 10:24 PM
Thanks For the info. I'll order the bolts asap... I'll be using the factory exhaust and dynomax 17228 mufflers ( Its just a personal thing I think its cool to keep the 2 3/4 pipes . :)
Corbusa
01-03-2013, 10:30 PM
PSS I'm also ordering a 4 post vehicle lift.
VetteVet
01-03-2013, 11:31 PM
I don't know if the OBX headers come with O2 sensor extension harnesses. If they don't, you will need to order a pair.
efnfast
01-04-2013, 07:20 AM
If you're not going to use the locking tabs on the Stage 8 bolts, why bother spending the big bucks on them. When I did my headers, we could not get the clips on. I shoulda just bought regular bolts.
Talk to Swaintech about ceramic coating before you send off to Jet-Hot. They convinced me that there white lightning coating was a better choice. Not as pretty, but much more functional.
The OBX does not come with an O2 sensor extention. I wish I had know I would need one, as we just kinda' cobbled one together.
I also had to shim my motor mounts so the headers would not rub on the steering shaft.
secondchance
01-04-2013, 07:43 AM
I don't know if the OBX headers come with O2 sensor extension harnesses. If they don't, you will need to order a pair.
OBX headers, due to addition of fake cats (really a pair of glasspacks) O2 sensor bungs are about 8-10" closer to the front. In my case (Imay have longer wires on the O2 sensor), this negated a need for an extension.
As for the exhaust, factory system, though 2.75" narrows down at the center resonators. Replacing mufflers may help the situation somewhat. What I do know is when Jim and I hooked up a pressure gauge at the O2 sensor bung on the passenger side and drove the car in the 2nd gear at 6000 rpm, factory exhaust registered 1.4 psi. Same condition, rpm, etc..., OBX registered 1 psi.
I am not trying to push you but wanted to share what we found out. One of these days we need to perform the same test w/ 3" BB and 2.5" Corsa.
Hammer
01-04-2013, 08:00 AM
I don't know if the OBX headers come with O2 sensor extension harnesses. If they don't, you will need to order a pair.
NAPA usually has the Weather Pack connectors to make them. See them here.
http://www.weatherpack.com/
Corbusa
01-04-2013, 10:31 AM
Thanks for the info.. keep it coming. Once the system is all put together , I'll take the system down to a local powder coating shop that really comes recommended . ( I'll do the headers first no duh. ) . what about shims on the motor mounts ? what materials? how thick? ot just dimple the header ?
Corbusa
01-04-2013, 10:34 AM
I'm also getting a list together for Jerry , are the header gaskets reusable?
WARP TEN
01-04-2013, 11:08 AM
PSS I'm also ordering a 4 post vehicle lift.
In case you haven't already settled on a lift yet, I wanted to mention that I got a Direct Lift Pro Park 8S last summer. Works great. Researched a bunch of home-type 4 post lifts and concluded it was the best compromise of features vs price for me. An important feature for me was the ability to get my cars underneath vs overall width of the thing. LGAFF also has one which he showed me. Mine cost $2,100 and I paid $900 for delivery and installation, since I didn't want to do it myself. Very pleased with it. I have a bunch of pictures posted in my albums; just click my avatar and you can see them. -- Bob
alwayscode390
01-04-2013, 11:38 AM
How high does your ceiling need to be to get both cars in there like that? I love that setup ... can you put two lifts side by side in that garage?
How wide is your garage in feet? Thanks :) ---
Corbusa
01-04-2013, 11:50 AM
Thanks for the info, I have been checking on different lifts . I may have to move a beam or two in my garage to get maximum height out of the lift. Will check all options . ( nice set-up WARP :) Thanks
secondchance
01-04-2013, 11:50 AM
Thanks for the info.. keep it coming. Once the system is all put together , I'll take the system down to a local powder coating shop that really comes recommended . ( I'll do the headers first no duh. ) . what about shims on the motor mounts ? what materials? how thick? ot just dimple the header ?
Clearance seems to vary depending on individual cars. Mine had no clearance issue. Matter of fact all WAZOO install (3 cars) had no clearance issue.
efnfast
01-04-2013, 06:06 PM
I'd perfer to dimple the headers. But, that means dry fitting, removing, dimpleing, then sending them out to be coated.
I had a shop do my headers, so I don't know what they did for shims.
WARP TEN
01-05-2013, 10:09 AM
How high does your ceiling need to be to get both cars in there like that? I love that setup ... can you put two lifts side by side in that garage?
How wide is your garage in feet? Thanks :) ---
The inside dimensions of the garage are 21' wide, 21' deep and between 9'8" and 10'0" high (there is a slight slope to the floor for drainage). The door is 18' wide. The garage centerline is to the right of the lift (facing the garage) so yes you theoretically could put two lifts in. But my wife would kill me. Also physically installing the second one would be tough, but I suspect it could be done.
The minimum height of the ceiling depends on what cars you are lifting and the dimensions of the lift you are using. I had to fit a 59" high BMW and a 47" high ZR-1. There is a ceiling height calculator for the Direct Lift Pro Park lift--just Google it as it is hard to find from their website. Hope that helps. --Bob
alwayscode390
01-05-2013, 10:13 AM
That was awesome, thanks for the time Bob :) ---
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