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Schrade
12-10-2012, 06:56 PM
Mine went under the wrench today, to get an RPM Stage V 4L60e, and dedicated controller module from TCI.

Sacrilege you say? I agree. I especially liked seeing it holding just under 31 MPG, at 67 MPH, with the 0.6:1 gearing in 6th.

But a drinker, whom I met head on, SQUARE, 110MPH+ combined, did not agree, and really folded both of my sticks to the point where each had extra knees / ankles / etc. But I'm here; he's needed butter for 6 years (he's toast), so I'm over it.

So now, all is back in relative order, except that stick trannies, and MY 2 sticks don't play nice together.

The swap should be done by Fri 10 / 14. When done, I'll shoot snappics of the work, make annotations to FSM, and post up here.

In the meantime, anyone on the forum boards here already done this?


I'm safe on that one. She can't drive a stick.LOL

There are a couple of automatic conversions out there she might be interested in.

Tyler

I thought that the only LT5 / auto was Tim Allen's SS Impala...

Anyone have pics / specs / parts [new] schematics???

The ZF has 32K documented, and can be had cheap. PM @ me, if interested here...

rkreigh
12-10-2012, 09:07 PM
john becker did his car and posts often.

LPE converted a couple of the TT ZR-1s and a ZR-1 with an auto will work very well. the mounting for the c beam has some challenges and the conversion isn't cheap due to the dedicated tranny controller and high cost of the trans

what are you doing for the flex plate?

quite a few ZR-1s have been modded with auto trans and made to work quite well.

I'm all for it. my knees are shot and driving the stick is getting more painful all the time.

Schrade
12-10-2012, 09:48 PM
john becker did his car and posts often.

LPE converted a couple of the TT ZR-1s and a ZR-1 with an auto will work very well. the mounting for the c beam has some challenges and the conversion isn't cheap due to the dedicated tranny controller and high cost of the trans

what are you doing for the flex plate?

quite a few ZR-1s have been modded with auto trans and made to work quite well.

I'm all for it. my knees are shot and driving the stick is getting more painful all the time.

Thanks for feedback there Sir...

As much as I [think I] know, I do NOT know what TT version Z-car is. Prototypical, perhaps?

The 'innerds' went into a '95 LT1 auto housing; so the mount isn't supposed to be an issue. None-the-less, the shop Mayhem Motorsports in Raleigh, did add in $$ for driveshaft length modification. ???

I have seen the flexplate. Don't remember the name, but the itemized estimate was flexplate $159...

If I can copy / paste the .xml estimate, I will do so.

Got it...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pQFoW5Atw3E/UMaQc60eF-I/AAAAAAAAAoM/3eZUmn5gnT4/s640/Screenshot-5.png

Pete
12-10-2012, 10:53 PM
I have done a few of these.

You can use stock C4 auto driveshaft (no custom driveshaft needed) also use stock C4 automatic C-beam and stock C4 dipstick.

Yeap PI has both measurements for 4L60 and 4L80 Torque Converters thanks to yours truely :)

Also exhaust will need to be modified to fit around auto trans.

How much horsepower you making in that Z?

Pete

Schrade
12-11-2012, 01:32 AM
I have done a few of these.

You can use stock C4 auto driveshaft (no custom driveshaft needed) also use stock C4 automatic C-beam and stock C4 dipstick.

Yeap PI has both measurements for 4L60 and 4L80 Torque Converters thanks to yours truely :)

Also exhaust will need to be modified to fit around auto trans.

How much horsepower you making in that Z?

Pete

And thanks for that info Sir...

It is stock; no mods, except for M Haibeck's Memory Calibration module, which MIGHT get it close to original power for a '90 car, or MARGINALLY more...

So stock C4 D/S will hold Z car's power / TQ? No mods are planned; only PROPER tune / maintenance (famous last words).

It might have some fluid deposits (crankcase, injectors), with 22 years on the clock; 32K mi not-with-standing...

Pete
12-11-2012, 02:11 AM
And thanks for that info Sir...

It is stock; no mods, except for M Haibeck's Memory Calibration module, which MIGHT get it close to original power for a '90 car, or MARGINALLY more...

So stock C4 D/S will hold Z car's power / TQ? No mods are planned; only PROPER tune / maintenance (famous last words).

It might have some fluid deposits (crankcase, injectors), with 22 years on the clock; 32K mi not-with-standing...


Stock,C4 automatic driveshaft has held up to a mid 10 second ZR-1
and stock C4 automatic C-beam.

Pete

Marc Haibeck
12-11-2012, 04:04 AM
I recall that one of the first AT ZR-1 conversions was done by a fellow named Mark Weaver. He was an engineer with GM and had access to inside information at GM. I think it was 4L60E. He had a one of a kind truck transmission controller for the transmission. I made an effort to find out how to reprogram the shift points but never could find a bit of information about the controller or Mark Weaver.

The car was a red 1990. It was nicely documented by a Detroit newspaper. The newspaper article was in the car. I recently heard that it was for sale in Idaho.

Schrade
12-11-2012, 08:24 AM
And Mr. KnowledgeBase is on the boards... Hat's off to you Sir! Got your site bookmarked there too (can't see the screen tho', from the 'library' (where the seat has a hole :D ) )

I watched eBay for 10 - 12 weeks to gauge prices. I really didn't expect to find any conversions to auto, or even a nearby car. This one showed up < 25mi away :eek: - same story with my last one.

Just something about getting static and dynamic FP readings BEFORE bringing them home ;) .

phrogs
12-11-2012, 09:09 AM
Wow you should be able to get Automatic trim parts For WAY less that the price they are giving.

There are way to many C4s being parted out to pay that much for some parts.

Schrade
12-13-2012, 08:13 PM
I have done a few of these.

You can use stock C4 auto driveshaft (no custom driveshaft needed) also use stock C4 automatic C-beam and stock C4 dipstick.

Yeap PI has both measurements for 4L60 and 4L80 Torque Converters thanks to yours truely :)

Also exhaust will need to be modified to fit around auto trans.

How much horsepower you making in that Z?

Pete

Where did you get the flexplate???

I am having a hard time finding one (and the shop is really dragging their feet on this one)...

LT5-1935
12-13-2012, 09:00 PM
Where did you get the flexplate???

I am having a hard time finding one (and the shop is really dragging their feet on this one)...


I got mine from Bowler Transmission
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/gbraml/th_IMG_0339_zpse9ef5b1a.jpg

Here is the trans they built for me with custom bell housing for LT-5 only
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/gbraml/th_IMG_0342_zps544a03cd.jpg
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz176/gbraml/th_IMG_0341_zpsf994470b.jpg

Schrade
12-13-2012, 09:20 PM
EXCELLENT info Sir, thanks; will call Bowler in the AM here...

perrymitchell
12-16-2012, 12:47 PM
I put an LT5 motor into a '67 Camaro with a 700r4 transmission. Mark at Street and Performance made the flex plate for me. www.lateral-g.net/members/mitchell

Pete
12-16-2012, 01:45 PM
I don't see why we need to promote other companies that have nothing to do with our LT5 or ZR-1's most of these companies would not even look our way.

We have all the telant/parts from our very own ZR-1 supporting members.
I can't think of one part that we can't get or make from our very own
ZR-1 Registry members.

If our own group has it why go outside of it.
Support your local business :)

Just saying.
Pete

P.S.
Thank You Schrade
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perrymitchell
12-16-2012, 02:04 PM
Pete, you are right. However I failed to state when I made this conversion. It was at least 10 years ago when nobody I could find was putting an automatic trans. behind the LT5. I wish I new of you back then because I went through hxxx trying to make it work. Still having trouble with the TV cable system. Can you help me with that?

Schrade
12-16-2012, 02:18 PM
I don't see why we need to promote other companies that have nothing to do with our LT5 or ZR-1's most of these companies would not even look our way.

We have all the telant/parts from our very own ZR-1 supporting members.
I can't think of one part that we can't get or make from our very own
ZR-1 Registry members.

If our own group has it why go outside of it.
Support your local business :)

Just saying.
Pete

P.S.
Thank You Schrade
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I'm guilty more-so than any about keeping business in the 'ZR1 Community' here ... :o

Like they say, if you're stupid, you better be rich. I ain't exactly rich, but I'm the BEST learner... And I know now where to get info and do business. Hopefully, I've lost only some time here, on getting my own conversion done...

And thank YOU there PETE, and M Haibeck too...



Do you race there PMitchell? Or just a regular driver, with occasioanl 'hammer down'? How well does it drive for ya' there, besides the throttle cable link?

perrymitchell
12-16-2012, 03:16 PM
Do you race there PMitchell? Or just a regular driver, with occasioanl 'hammer down'? How well does it drive for ya' there, besides the throttle cable link?[/QUOTE]

The car will be for the show circuit for the 1st year and then onto the autocross. It's not 100% done yet so the only driving that has been done is up and down my 300' driveway.

Tyler Townsley
12-16-2012, 10:47 PM
Why reinvent the wheel (conversion) here is a link you might be interested in. Give him a call, he can do the conversion for you it you need. He now campaigns a real hot Chev II.
http://www.corvettefever.com/featuredvehicles/corp_0703_1991_corvette_zr1/viewall.html

http://members.boardhost.com/pscaracing1/msg/1342631021.html

Tyler