How many DRM600s were built?

[Vette Guy]

Does anyone know how many DRM600s were built?

I recently purchased the DRM600 featured in the 1995 Road & Track "Fastest Cars in America", which was also in the 1996 Road & Track video below.*
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilz6ul5q4EE
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then it is continued at:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbK2z6QdV-M

Interesting history - despite the MPH reached on the track by driver Phil Hill, Doug Rippie and the original owner hit 196 to, and 198 from, the event on the West Texas highway. Approximately four years after the DRM600 build, the 385 was rebuilt by LPE and increased output toward 625hp. I've only seen reference to one other here on the forum.

Mark

[secondchance]

Official, great, big congratulations!
You are finally joining us here?

[Vette Guy]

Ha! I've been in lurker mode for a long time.... Since the Listserver days!

Was googling DRM600s and there's not much out there. I did find reference to the shoot out from Randy@DRM... This was the only car that was actually driven to the event in West Texas (reached 196 mph), and was a customer's car, "Not a house car built for the shoot out."

Mark

[Daniel_Mc]

Hey Mark call Randy at DRM and see what they can tell you. You will be surprised what Doug can remember.

Daniel

[cvette98pacecar]

Hey Mark call Randy at DRM and see what they can tell you. You will be surprised what Doug can remember.

Daniel

I would bet to say Doug knows the exact numbers and the original owners.

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Cool stuff!!! Thanks for posting.

[Daniel_Mc]

If Doug could tell me the cam specs on a car he built in 95 I'm betting he'll remember. Check under the car on the rear sway bar if DRM had multiple cars in the shop at once they would wright the owners name on the rear bar so it was easier to keep up with.

Daniel

[Vette Guy]

Thanks for the recommendations! I'll follow up with DRM this week. I have the original invoice from DRM (over $51K) and LPE (over $23K).

Mark

[RICKYRJ1]

dont beleive you bought it until you post up some pics ;) C'mon you know we love new Z porn :p Congrats and enjoy!

[Vette Guy]

Alright Ricky.....

http://www.corvetteaddiction.com/ZR1public/images/Horner_1995_ZR-1.JPG

I was honored to have been offered the Z from a long-time friend for whom I have the greatest respect.

Mark

[Blue Flame Restorations]

:jawdrop::dancing

[ZZZZZR1]

Alright Ricky.....

http://www.corvetteaddiction.com/ZR1public/images/Horner_1995_ZR-1.JPG

I was honored to have been offered the Z from a long-time friend for whom I have the greatest respect.

Mark

Mark

That car is over the top. Covered in magazine articles and a true
supercar!!!!

Congrats!!!

David

[RICKYRJ1]

That is awesom! What brakes are on her? They look like wildwood but it is hard to see. How much hp do you think she has? Thanks for the pic now show some more. Lol

[secondchance]

What a car!!!

[Vette Guy]

Ricky,

It makes 625hp from the LPE 385 with Corey Henderson's chip. With the DRM600 package, it has the 1G ExtraGrip suspension w/coil overs, Wilwood 6 piston fronts, 4 piston rears, 4:09 gears, Watson Headers, B&Bs w/X-pipe, Centerforce Clutch, Ron Davis Radiator w/160 degree Thermostat, Fidanza flywheel, Forced Air, line loc, integrated electronic fire suppression system, DRM roll bar w/Simpson 5-pt harnesses, Kurt White short shifter, Fikse FM5s, and NX Express System 100 shot installed. Also, it has the Toledo Pro hood and euro tails.

....as I said, honored to own it.... I look forward to bringing it to BG and Carlisle....

Mark

[cvette98pacecar]

Ricky,

It makes 625hp from the LPE 385 with Corey Henderson's chip. With the DRM600 package, it has the 1G ExtraGrip suspension w/coil overs, Wilwood 6 piston fronts, 4 piston rears, 4:09 gears, Watson Headers, B&Bs w/X-pipe, Centerforce Clutch, Ron Davis Radiator w/160 degree Thermostat, Fidanza flywheel, Forced Air, line loc, integrated electronic fire suppression system, DRM roll bar w/Simpson 5-pt harnesses, Kurt White short shifter, Fikse FM5s, and NX Express System 100 shot installed. Also, it has the Toledo Pro hood and euro tails.

....as I said, honored to own it.... I look forward to bringing it to BG and Carlisle....

Mark

Okay I am a little lost now. Is this a LPE385, DRM600 or a DRM600/510? The DRM600 refers to a 402 cu in stroker that was built by DRM not Lingenfelter. I did read where it stated that the engine was rebuilt by LPE and is a 385 now? The DRM600/510 was rated at 510 hp to 530 hp. So if this was a DRM600/510 LPE got an additional 100 HP from the 385 upgrade. Either way you own a very nice car. Cant wait to see her.

DRM 600 Conversion
1993-95 ZR-1 Corvette
550-600 horsepower/500+ ft-lbs.
402 cubic inches
Oversized cylinder liners
Forged stroker crankshaft
JE pistons and Oliver rods
DRM intake camshafts
Ported cylinder heads
Ported plenum and
injector housings
K&N air filter
Modified air filter lid
63mm throttle body
Custom computer calibration

[Vette Guy]

Robert,

This DRM600 was a 385ci, as referenced in the R&T video. The second owner decided to increase power from 550 to over 600 through LPE. The current DRM600 packages refer to the specs you reference. I don't believe LPE currently offers the 385 either.

Mark

[RICKYRJ1]

Ricky,

It makes 625hp from the LPE 385 with Corey Henderson's chip. With the DRM600 package, it has the 1G ExtraGrip suspension w/coil overs, Wilwood 6 piston fronts, 4 piston rears, 4:09 gears, Watson Headers, B&Bs w/X-pipe, Centerforce Clutch, Ron Davis Radiator w/160 degree Thermostat, Fidanza flywheel, Forced Air, line loc, integrated electronic fire suppression system, DRM roll bar w/Simpson 5-pt harnesses, Kurt White short shifter, Fikse FM5s, and NX Express System 100 shot installed. Also, it has the Toledo Pro hood and euro tails.

....as I said, honored to own it.... I look forward to bringing it to BG and Carlisle....

Mark

OK since you are putting her back to stock for NCRS judging, I call dibs on ALL the upgrades. Where do you wanna do the engine swap? my house or yours? :dancing looks like she found a great new owner, cant wait to see her.

[ZZZZZR1]

OK since you are putting her back to stock for NCRS judging, I call dibs on ALL the upgrades. Where do you wanna do the engine swap? my house or yours? :dancing looks like she found a great new owner, cant wait to see her.

Ricky,

You take the engine, I'll take all the "OTHER" upgrades!!!!!

:salute:

David

[Kevin]

looks a bit like bob hall's old car

[Hog]

Robert,

This DRM600 was a 385ci, as referenced in the R&T video. The second owner decided to increase power from 550 to over 600 through LPE. The current DRM600 packages refer to the specs you reference. I don't believe LPE currently offers the 385 either.

Mark
Advertised LT5 Lingenfelter packages,

475 HP 350 CID LT5
530 HP 368 CID LT5
610 HP 415 CID LT5 (http://www.lingenfelter.com/engine-packages/corvette/c4-zr1-1990-1995/610-hp-415-cid-lt5)

peace
Hog

[RICKYRJ1]

Advertised LT5 Lingenfelter packages,

475 HP 350 CID LT5
530 HP 368 CID LT5
610 HP 415 CID LT5 (http://www.lingenfelter.com/engine-packages/corvette/c4-zr1-1990-1995/610-hp-415-cid-lt5)

peace
Hog

I beleive I heard someone say that they dont mess with the LT5 anymore but still advertise the service :confused: Maybe someone knows for sure :usa:

[boostedmaxPSI]

Enjoyed the videos. Good looking Texas car.

[cvette98pacecar]

Got the skinny on this car. It is a DRM 600/385 cu in. Might be the only one that was ever build.
If she was mine I would take off the LPE tagged Siamese plenum and install a DRM600 tagged Siamese plenum with the logo 1 of 1 just downstream of the TB.
great find. Cant wait to see her in Bowling Green.
I got a good idea, Lets take out that 100 shot off and install a 300 hp progressive Nitrous system. I sure would love to see one of our cars turn a 8.99
That might be wishful thinking but it sure would be nice to see.

[Vette Guy]

I found a bit more about the Rippie 385s at: http://corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/c4/zr1/blackwidow.html

It is a copy of "Meet Doug" formerly posted on the Rippie website. Appears the early DRM600s were 385s. In addition, Doug Rippie mentions the production of a 600hp 385 that was tested in Aug 1996 in the desert.

After a bit more searching, I found a 93 ZR-1 for sale with a 600hp 385, as well as the original 405hp engine:

http://www.carsforsale.com/used_cars_for_sale/1993_Chevrolet_Corvette_152351581#

Looks like a great price, particularly with the extra engine.

Ricky????

Mark

[cvette98pacecar]

I found a bit more about the Rippie 385s at: http://corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/c4/zr1/blackwidow.html

It is a copy of "Meet Doug" formerly posted on the Rippie website. Appears the early DRM600s were 385s. In addition, Doug Rippie mentions the production of a 600hp 385 that was tested in Aug 1996 in the desert.

After a bit more searching, I found a 93 ZR-1 for sale with a 600hp 385, as well as the original 405hp engine:

http://www.carsforsale.com/used_cars_for_sale/1993_Chevrolet_Corvette_152351581#

Looks like a great price, particularly with the extra engine.

Ricky????

Mark

93 engine with 50k Miles and 385 car for 36K. I might have to think about that one.
Does anyone have a spare bedroom and 4 parking spots in their garage? Wait make that five forgot about the 91 SB.

[Blue Flame Restorations]

93 engine with 50k Miles and 385 car for 36K. I might have to think about that one.
Does anyone have a spare bedroom and 4 parking spots in their garage? Wait make that five forgot about the 91 SB.


Robert, I can fit eight in the shop and I'm still out of room!! Damnitttt!!!!!!!!

[ZZZZZR1]

I found a bit more about the Rippie 385s at: http://corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/c4/zr1/blackwidow.html

It is a copy of "Meet Doug" formerly posted on the Rippie website. Appears the early DRM600s were 385s. In addition, Doug Rippie mentions the production of a 600hp 385 that was tested in Aug 1996 in the desert.

After a bit more searching, I found a 93 ZR-1 for sale with a 600hp 385, as well as the original 405hp engine:

http://www.carsforsale.com/used_cars_for_sale/1993_Chevrolet_Corvette_152351581#

Looks like a great price, particularly with the extra engine.

Ricky????

Mark

Mark,

Wow that's a cool car too and a torch red 1993? I bet the previous owners have some great stories, too bad they sold the car to a dealership....

:cheers:

David

[tomtom72]

Maybe we could ask Graham if LPE still does LT5 work if he comes to BG this year? If I see him, I'll ask him.:o

[cvette98pacecar]

Robert, I can fit eight in the shop and I'm still out of room!! Damnitttt!!!!!!!!

I am currently looking at a house in Crowne Point that has a four car existing connected garage. When I put a bid offer in on the house one of the stipulations is the existing owner adds an additional 4 car garage before I take ownership. That way when I take ownership no one can complain about me adding an additional garage.

[A26B]

I beleive I heard someone say that they dont mess with the LT5 anymore but still advertise the service Maybe someone knows for sure


Maybe we could ask Graham if LPE still does LT5 work if he comes to BG this year? If I see him, I'll ask him.:o


They do still work on the LT5.

[Bob Eyres]

You list that hood as a Toledo Pro hood. But from that angle it looks like the hood on the C4 ZR-1 "active suspension" car recently auctioned. Note where the rear of the hood meets the windshield it looks relatively stock, but going forward it rises over the plenum.
I always thought that was the design that should have been used on all ZR-1's, to clear the plenum, (mine rubs), and yet it doesn't obscure the view of the road like every Toledo Pro hood that i've seen.
I dunno, maybe it's just the angle of the pic, but it's pretty cool.

[-=Jeff=-]

You list that hood as a Toledo Pro hood. But from that angle it looks like the hood on the C4 ZR-1 "active suspension" car recently auctioned. Note where the rear of the hood meets the windshield it looks relatively stock, but going forward it rises over the plenum.
I always thought that was the design that should have been used on all ZR-1's, to clear the plenum, (mine rubs), and yet it doesn't obscure the view of the road like every Toledo Pro hood that i've seen.
I dunno, maybe it's just the angle of the pic, but it's pretty cool.

I noticed that too.. if it is truly the way it looks that would be the hood to have

the Toledo Pro Hood I always thought was taller (referring to the lower one they make)

[RICKYRJ1]

I found a bit more about the Rippie 385s at: http://corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/c4/zr1/blackwidow.html

It is a copy of "Meet Doug" formerly posted on the Rippie website. Appears the early DRM600s were 385s. In addition, Doug Rippie mentions the production of a 600hp 385 that was tested in Aug 1996 in the desert.

After a bit more searching, I found a 93 ZR-1 for sale with a 600hp 385, as well as the original 405hp engine:

http://www.carsforsale.com/used_cars_for_sale/1993_Chevrolet_Corvette_152351581#

Looks like a great price, particularly with the extra engine.

Ricky????

Mark

does sound like a good $ for what it has and the extra 405 engine. I'm sure there is room to move on the 36k also. I cant do anything this year but I have it saved in my favorites for next. Nice find! Thanks :handshak:

[Daniel_Mc]

93 engine with 50k Miles and 385 car for 36K. I might have to think about that one.
Does anyone have a spare bedroom and 4 parking spots in their garage? Wait make that five forgot about the 91 SB.

Hey Robert,
We moved some of the P cars around and have room for 4 now in the off site storage and if I can ever get the lift in the home shop I'll have room for one more. Just pick that Z up and ship it down or have one of the others shipped. I'll take good care of them <swear>. BTW you NEED that Z ;)

I always thought that was the design that should have been used on all ZR-1's, to clear the plenum, (mine rubs), and yet it doesn't obscure the view of the road like every Toledo Pro hood that i've seen.
I dunno, maybe it's just the angle of the pic, but it's pretty cool.

Bob,
I think the Toledo Pro hoods came in 2 sizes. I remember one on a green C4 that was perfect but all the others I have seen were huge.

Daniel

[mgbrv8]

Alright Ricky.....

http://www.corvetteaddiction.com/ZR1public/images/Horner_1995_ZR-1.JPG

I was honored to have been offered the Z from a long-time friend for whom I have the greatest respect.

Mark


Congratulations Mark what a beautiful Z let alone a piece of corvette history.

Dave

[Bob Eyres]

Bob,
I think the Toledo Pro hoods came in 2 sizes. I remember one on a green C4 that was perfect but all the others I have seen were huge.


Yeah, they did. And they both look too big, (IMHO), but the one on this car is so cool because it has the higher hump for the LT5 to fit a little easier, but the rear lip of the hood seems low in the stock manner, so as not to obscure your view.
One more subtle change that if used on all the ZR-1's would have given it more of a "special" appearance. Like the "new" ZR1 has.

[Kevin]

i can't get over how mean those rear tires look

[-=Jeff=-]

Here is the current Toledo Pro 2.75" (Low Rise) hood

a hood like the OP has would be perfect

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m205/gunnerja/ZR1/ZR1.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m205/gunnerja/ZR1/ZR1-3.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m205/gunnerja/ZR1/ZR1-4.jpg

[ZZZZZR1]

Here is the current Toledo Pro 2.75" (Low Rise) hood

a hood like the OP has would be perfect

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m205/gunnerja/ZR1/ZR1.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m205/gunnerja/ZR1/ZR1-3.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m205/gunnerja/ZR1/ZR1-4.jpg

Wow!!!! Your car has made a serious transformation!

:cheers:

David

[-=Jeff=-]

Wow!!!! Your car has made a serious transformation!

:cheers:

David

It is not mine.. I just had pictures of it. That one is a red 91. I own a black 90

[ZZZZZR1]

It is not mine.. I just had pictures of it. That one is a red 91. I own a black 90

Thought that was yours. You have a mod red interior with your black z. Sorry!

:cheers:

David

[-=Jeff=-]

Thought that was yours. You have a mod red interior with your black z. Sorry!

:cheers:

David

Yeah no worries.. Honestly if things would have been in my favor, I might have bought that red car I posted instead of the Black one back when I was looking

[alnukem]

Don't know if this is OK to do, bringing a dead thread back.....let me know if I violated anything. I am picking up the 93 DRM600 with the extra engine this weekend, here's the link;

http://www.carsforsale.com/used_cars_for_sale/1993_Chevrolet_Corvette_152351581#

But, found a couple more;

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=335.1&aid=323

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9113

[69bb]

I dont know how many but i have the one that was in a magazine with the number 001:cheers:

[Vette Guy]

So we now have tracking on 3 DRM600s.

I have the DRM600 that was in the June 95 R&T Fastest Cars in America article, and the 1996 video, same title.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-general-discussion/2365322-r-t-rippie-zr1-and-lingenfelter-fb-compared.html.

This is the one that Doug and the original owner took up to 196 on the highway to the event and 198 on the way from the event. They were very disappointed that the car was short shifted by Phil Hill at the Fastest Cars in America Shootout, and as a result, the car only posted 186.8 on the Ft. Stockton track.

That said, we'd love to see some photos of your cars!

Mark

[alnukem]

I dont know how many but i have the one that was in a magazine with the number 001:cheers:

Is this the Widowmaker 001? Thanks & please let us know.

[alnukem]

OK, So we have

DRM600's

91 Black on Black (went through Barret-Jackson)
93 Red on Black (mine)
95 Black on Black (Vette Guy's)

Widow Maker

92 #001 (Jerry Dirks, seen a posting 7-24-12)

& then we have 69BB's #001, I'm assuming 94 Black Rose, need confirmation.

Any more out there?????? Thanks, Tim

[rhipsher]

That sure does look like Bob Halls car. Accept Bobs LPE 385 motor was all black with red & silver letters. I know he sold it last year but had no idea who he sold it to. Not even Corey knew. Bob told me it makes 530rwhp. I had talked to Bob about buying the car but he said there were two other people that had first dibs on it. It was a surprise when I found out he had sold it.
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn63/keeno1970/Bobhalls.jpg

[Kevin]

Mark, the thread starter, bought bob halls car.

[rhipsher]

I know that quite a few ZR-1 brothers have had a ride in it including me. That thing is a ripper. I don't know you Mark but you are a lucky man. That car is the one to have.

[Vette Guy]

Tim,

Mine is Black/Black 95 that was at Carlisle - now with the gloss black LPE 385 vs. the former crinkle coat Black Widow paint. While the engine has been redone by LPE, the Z retains all the other DRM 600 accessories: roll cage, halon fire suppression system, 1G Extra-Grip suspension, billet spindles, Willwood calipers w/vented rotors, coilovers and DRM valved coilover Bilsteins w/reprogramed FX3. In the June 95 R&T article, Rippie called the DRM 600 an "Offspring of our SCCA World Challenge Corvettes."

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4tkZ4b-8Rao/TNW8VDAhHtI/AAAAAAAAJ_w/ldPizgygi-c/w1142-h759-no/ZR-1_Meet_20101106_101218.JPG

Mark

[Vette Guy]

I know that quite a few ZR-1 brothers have had a ride in it including me. That thing is a ripper. I don't know you Mark but you are a lucky man. That car is the one to have.

I am very well aware! I continue to pinch myself..... My wife and I still call it "Bob's ZR-1!"

Thanks! ...and look forward to meeting you soon!

Mark

[cvette98pacecar]

There was a Red/Red 93 that was for sale in Milwaukee about a year ago. It came with a spare engine.

[alnukem]

There was a Red/Red 93 that was for sale in Milwaukee about a year ago. It came with a spare engine.

It was actually Red on Black. I picked it up last weekend. Some interesting history with it.

[alnukem]

Sorry Mark.....And I knew that! I guess I shouldn't try to tally things when I'm tired. Am I missing anymore that anyone knows of?

[69bb]

I Have the 1994 black rose I will dig out the magazine with the drm 600 article and will also find the receipts on the built of the drm 600 from doug rippie Note the first engine was not black.

Thanks Rob Schultz

[cvette98pacecar]

Sorry Mark.....And I knew that! I guess I shouldn't try to tally things when I'm tired. Am I missing anymore that anyone knows of?

So is that a 368, 385 or a 402?

[alnukem]

I Have the 1994 black rose I will dig out the magazine with the drm 600 article and will also find the receipts on the built of the drm 600 from doug rippie Note the first engine was not black.
Thanks Rob Schultz

Thanks Rob! I had no idea.....see, we're getting some where!

[alnukem]

So is that a 368, 385 or a 402?

Mine & Marks are 385 cube. Thanks for the question.

[cvette98pacecar]

Mine & Marks are 385 cube. Thanks for the question.

I asked because I couldnt remember if that car had the 385 or the 402.
I was going to buy that car last year.

[alnukem]

I'm guessing the 402's are latter....only guessing. The 385 cube seemed to be the thing then. I'm guessing limited availability of choices of strokes on the cranks.

[cvette98pacecar]

I'm guessing the 402's are latter....only guessing. The 385 cube seemed to be the thing then. I'm guessing limited availability of choices of strokes on the cranks.

Well, either way the car looks as great as it did a year ago when i saw it.

[alnukem]

Well, either way the car looks as great as it did a year ago when i saw it.

Bob...did you go look at it? It wasn't that far away from you.

[LGAFF]

Alnukem, lets see some pics of the car and hear some info!

[cvette98pacecar]

Bob...did you go look at it? It wasn't that far away from you.

Yes, it is a gorgeous car.

[alnukem]

Alnukem, lets see some pics of the car and hear some info!

Lee....It's at Pete's. It's a 93 Red on Black. It has the Rippie X-Tragrip Suspension with FX-3 coil-overs, Stage III intake & exhaust cams, 4.09 gears, supposive 11.75 compression, Fiske FM-5's....pretty nice car. He is doing some more aggressive porting on heads & Top End & changing out the Exhaust Cams for a little less duration for street drivability. We may do some exhaust mods, but it has the Borla 2.75" systems now. I really don't know how to do photos, I will try to have a co-worker upload photos to a album.

[alnukem]

Alnukem, lets see some pics of the car and hear some info!

Lee, I forgot to say, this was the Practice engine at Rippie's grassroots attempt at LeMans. I believe Jim VanDorn has the the other motor. The fellow I bought it off of was a contributor to the LeMans effort. I have a old photo of the car with his company's name painted on the LeMans car.....kinda neat!

[alnukem]

I'm trying Pics

[alnukem]

Hey, It worked!

[alnukem]

Here is another one:

http://zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23545&highlight=drm+600

[alnukem]

Mark, Did we count this one?

http://zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19526&highlight=drm600