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BOB HDZ
10-13-2012, 01:18 PM
DOES ANY ONE ELSE HAVE ONE LIKE THIS

efnfast
10-13-2012, 01:24 PM
I have the leather corvette fob, the ignition key with the chip and the black gas filler door.

BOB HDZ
10-13-2012, 01:37 PM
IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE IT YOU DON'T HAVE ONE!

Kevin
10-13-2012, 01:39 PM
There's no need to shout mate

scottfab
10-13-2012, 01:50 PM
I don't have one but given that I can see the key pattern of your ignition key, given about 40min I could have yours [-X

BOB HDZ
10-13-2012, 03:38 PM
if it take you 40 then my 44 might interrupt you!

BOB HDZ
10-13-2012, 03:44 PM
let me rephrase that all stock lt5 have them?

scottfab
10-13-2012, 04:26 PM
if it take you 40 then my 44 might interrupt you!

Probably but then any number of folks seeing the pic would have the same opportunity. Maybe you could help by including you address and social security # too ?

Toyvet1
10-13-2012, 04:39 PM
I have 8 of them, but still in my moter,,,,not on a key chain. Ill bet Pete has lots of them laying around.

DDSLT5
10-13-2012, 05:04 PM
Any more crap on your ring & you'll be mistaken for the high school sanitation engineer!

secondchance
10-13-2012, 07:14 PM
I wouldn't put keys on painted gas doors-especially on dark colored Z. That's how you end up with scratches.

bdw18_123
10-14-2012, 07:00 PM
What the heck are we talking about here? That circle thing with the number stamped on it? What is it?

:icon_scra

:-D

efnfast
10-14-2012, 07:09 PM
Having never seen one, my guess is it is the butterfly out of the secondary air runner.

DDSLT5
10-14-2012, 07:27 PM
Yes - secondary throttle body butterfly plate. Removing them gives zero increase in performance, loss of 2-4 mpg.

efnfast
10-14-2012, 07:50 PM
Zero performance gain, simplified system. I'm ok with that. 2-4 mpg loss, that ain't great. Swollowing a screw (saw that here) also ain't great.

Corbusa
10-14-2012, 09:07 PM
Theres gotsta be a way to screw , loc tite & weld the screws so they wonts comes loose. I really like the power and hate to give up 2-4 mpg especially when the fuel cost goes to $7.00 a gallon..

BOB HDZ
10-15-2012, 10:19 AM
I LIKE THE RELIABILITY OF REMOVING THEM!

mike100
10-15-2012, 11:14 AM
I didn't realize you lost 2 mpg from a secondary-ectomy.

scottfab
10-15-2012, 12:56 PM
I didn't realize you lost 2 mpg from a secondary-ectomy.

Yah, you'd think there'd be better economy.
I mean with all the weight reduction of all that
complicated stuff under the V. :p

I still like the idea of better long term maintenance
of things that follow the manual (where practical).
And knowing that if necessary I could swap out
the chip with a stock one when troubleshooting
unrelated things.
Not to mention being able to shut the valet key
off should I allow anyone else to drive it.
And then there's that question when a guest is in the
car, "what's the Full Power" light mean?":)

DDSLT5
10-16-2012, 01:35 AM
I didn't realize you lost 2 mpg from a secondary-ectomy.

Hi Mike,

The loss of economy comes from the swirl effect of a single runner feeding the cylinder (with the secondary closed that port feeds no air), allowing a more lean mixture yet still plenty of horsepower at steady cruise. Honda had a super efficient lean burn engine that employed cvcc technology "Compound Vortex Controlled Combustion" which is the same swirl effect. When that other secondary is opened all the time, this effect is lost, and some economy along with it.

My 415 with big cams, big valves, max porting still delivers 26 mpg with 3.73 in the rear - secondaries are retained!

GOLDCYLON
10-16-2012, 09:52 AM
DOES ANY ONE ELSE HAVE ONE LIKE THIS


Mine Flew Away

GOLDCYLON
10-16-2012, 09:56 AM
Dwight I hope this never happens to you. Its happend to me twice. For those tuning in this is the rod that retains the butterflies. One of mine failed at the weakest point where the screw goes through the rod. Your mileage may vary. GC


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scottfab
10-16-2012, 10:44 AM
Theres gotsta be a way to screw , loc tite & weld the screws so they wonts comes loose. I really like the power and hate to give up 2-4 mpg especially when the fuel cost goes to $7.00 a gallon..

There is. As long as you don't over tighten the hardware on the butterflies they don't break and as long as you use loctite they stay in place.