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XfireZ51
09-24-2012, 05:37 PM
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/Z06Brakes002.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/Z06Brakes001.jpg

Getting adapter today so the Brembos will be going to their new home soon. The Z06 rotor is clearly "flatter" than the Brembo and that should pull wheels and tires closer to fender well. The Brembos require longer wheel studs so that's being changed too.

LGAFF
09-24-2012, 07:16 PM
Massive stopping distance difference with the 6 pistons....I was reading an article last night on C6 base model vs Z06/ZR1

25-30 ft from 60 and 45ft from 80

ZZZZZR1
09-24-2012, 07:23 PM
Dom

Those brakes look great! What pads did you decide on?

:cheers:

David

Hog
09-24-2012, 07:55 PM
Massive stopping distance difference with the 6 pistons....I was reading an article last night on C6 base model vs Z06/ZR1

25-30 ft from 60 and 45ft from 80
Thats very impressive.

peace
Hog

XfireZ51
09-24-2012, 08:20 PM
Dave,

I'm using the stock GS pads for now. Lots of meat left on those bones.
How do you like the decal?

Lee,

To quote that birther Trump, these brakes are HUGE!

efnfast
09-24-2012, 08:35 PM
Dominic I was impressed when I picked them up, now they look GREAT. And guys, those things are huge.

ZZZZZR1
09-24-2012, 08:36 PM
Dave,

I'm using the stock GS pads for now. Lots of meat left on those bones.
How do you like the decal?

Lee,

To quote that birther Trump, these brakes are HUGE!

LOVE the decal!!!

Might want to sell the used padlets and get ceramic.

Those padlets will dirty up your calipers in the first few hours guaranteed.

Performance of the OEM pads in superb though.

As long as you don't mind cleaning the calipers, keep them on

David

XfireZ51
09-25-2012, 01:17 AM
WJust some camparison of the Z06 and Brembo rotors

Here's the diameter difference

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/Z06Rotors001.jpg


And here is the height difference. Its about 1.5". Square is resting on top of Brembo rotor hat surface. This is one reason I went to the Z06 rotors. The Brembo is a taller rotor and so pushed out the Z06 wheel further past the fender line. I did a quick test fit and the Z06 wheel will be nearly flush with the fender.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/Z06Rotors002.jpg

Corbusa
09-25-2012, 02:13 AM
So I guess you have to use 18 in. rims? I'm just curious on what changes had to be made? Thanks for the write up...

HAWAIIZR-1
09-25-2012, 08:18 AM
All I can say is "WOW"!!

XfireZ51
09-25-2012, 09:17 AM
So I guess you have to use 18 in. rims? I'm just curious on what changes had to be made? Thanks for the write up...

I have stock Z06 18/19" wheels. The fronts are 40mm offset but the rotor offset will make that work. I'll show a before and after in terms of fender fit and clearance.

XfireZ51
09-25-2012, 02:33 PM
The Z calipers needed a bit of modding in order for the adapters to fit. No biggie.

Also a couple of pics showing the size of the brakes relative to the fender opening. These things are pretty big.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/Z06CaliperClearance001.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/Z06CaliperClearance002.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/Z06CaliperInstall001.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/Z06CaliperInstall002.jpg

XfireZ51
09-25-2012, 02:52 PM
Question?

Will I need to bleed ALL the brakes or just the fronts?

Corbusa
09-25-2012, 04:04 PM
Get some speed bleeders .It only takes a second to bleed them and a good idea to keep the fluid fresh anyway.
Those Calipers are huge! Nice!

XfireZ51
09-25-2012, 04:14 PM
Interestingly, each side has its own bleeder.

GOLDCYLON
09-26-2012, 12:13 AM
Now thats a big brake setup! GC

XfireZ51
09-26-2012, 12:43 AM
Looks like I need to "shim" the caliper in order to center the rotor in the caliper.
Haven't checked passenger side yet.

XfireZ51
09-27-2012, 03:09 PM
Here's a pic of the difference in offset for the Brembo and Z06 rotors. Pretty significant which should make the Z06 wheel tuck in nicely. You can also note the difference in thickness.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/Z06RotorvBrembo.jpg

mgg
09-27-2012, 04:26 PM
I would definatley bleed the entire system. Start with he right rear, left rear, right front, left front. ATE fluid is not a bad choice. It is inexpensive works well. I have used it in my race car for years. I would suggest the gold color rather than the blue. It is easier to tell if it is dirty with the gold. Hope you like the brakes. Congrats!

-=Jeff=-
09-27-2012, 04:34 PM
next you will want the 4 piston Z06 brakes for the rear

XfireZ51
09-27-2012, 04:59 PM
next you will want the 4 piston Z06 brakes for the rear

Jeff,

You know me too well. :dancing:-D
:sign10:

GOLDCYLON
09-27-2012, 05:47 PM
Dom I dont suggest the Speed Bleeders as they have a tendency to leak. I suggest bleeding the outside first then the inboard. I suggest you bleed all the old fluid out. Suggest using a turkey baster to get the old fluid out of the reservior first. GC

-=Jeff=-
09-27-2012, 11:48 PM
Those are some Big Azz Calipers

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ygxHC4s2spc/UGUPELUowGI/AAAAAAAAC6w/UdgguvGcuzM/s912/2012-09-27_20-55-46_386.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OIzpXm90u3o/UGUPLArxzlI/AAAAAAAAC7A/-M_gguFHHMM/s912/2012-09-27_20-56-08_407.jpg

efnfast
09-28-2012, 05:38 PM
Looks magnifisent (sp).

Corbusa
09-28-2012, 08:07 PM
I don't mean to change the thread , ( I wont :) but I was having a goofy idea today & I always ask the stupid questions, But has anyone thought about a dual caliper set-up? I'm sure the rear would be easier since it doesn't turn , ( I know the front does most of the stopping) . But I was thinking about the gentlemen here that do cnc work etc . I should be easy to make a bracket that would mount up .. This way po boi's like me wouldn't have to change rim -tires,calipers etc . Just an Idea- I know- I we todd did .

-=Jeff=-
09-29-2012, 12:07 AM
Been done and sold on the market by AO Engineering

http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c4/ericcer/aoengineering1.jpg

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-tech-performance/790652-ao-engineering-dual-caliper-kit-installed.html

-=Jeff=-
09-29-2012, 12:10 AM
http://edgecastcdn.net/003CDD/images/live/DealerImages/52308000/52308628/0.jpg
http://edgecastcdn.net/003CDD/images/live/DealerImages/52308000/52308655/0.jpg

The car in these pictures is for sale:
http://jerrysautosales.com/1991-Chevrolet-Corvette-ZR1-Beresford-SD/vd/9216863

Corbusa
09-29-2012, 11:26 AM
Well Hell, I is smarter then a 5th grader:), Just not smart enough to do a search :) interesting stuff .I'll be checking into this ..Thanks

XfireZ51
09-29-2012, 12:35 PM
How many years ago was that ad?

XfireZ51
09-29-2012, 01:18 PM
Some pics of the brake calipers with Z06 wheels

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/CadillacDrove004-1.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/CadillacDrove003-1.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/CadillacDrove002-1.jpg

and pics of wheel clearance before and after

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/CadillacDrove.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/CadillacDrove005-1.jpg

-=Jeff=-
09-29-2012, 06:50 PM
How come it appears to not have rear brakes??

Lol

HADI-ZR1
09-29-2012, 08:57 PM
Nice setup Man! Congraute.
Please show us more picture in different angel of front wheel final finished!
Where you got your conversion addapter? !
Now you must do z06 brake for rear too... =D>

XfireZ51
09-29-2012, 09:55 PM
Nice setup Man! Congraute.
Please show us more picture in different angel of front wheel final finished!
Where you got your conversion addapter? !
Now you must do z06 brake for rear too... =D>

I know. That's what =Jeff= says too. :cheers::o

RiceEatingZR1
09-29-2012, 10:26 PM
Dom the brakes look great. I got to see them in person today.

XfireZ51
10-09-2012, 11:37 PM
Ok. =Jeff= came over and we re-bled the brakes. Now they are AWESOME!
Takes very little to stop car.

Coupe89
10-10-2012, 04:01 AM
What size wheels are you using?

XfireZ51
10-10-2012, 09:26 AM
What size wheels are you using?

Stock C6 Z06. 18/19".

-=Jeff=-
10-10-2012, 10:48 AM
How many years ago was that ad?

for a/o engineering.. easily mid 90s

gbrtng
10-10-2012, 04:21 PM
for a/o engineering.. easily mid 90s
The weak link in the AO Engineering dual caliper setup is the brake disc, which is why the system never really caught on. Just not enough mass in the disc to absorb energy - Adding airflow helps a little ...