Marc Haibeck under plenum dvd...

[Kevin]

does anyone have a copy of the under plenum dvd that Marc sells? I need a refresher course.

[Kevin]

no one has one they'd be willing to loan? I'd be happy to pay shipping both ways and a deposit if you felt necessary

[John Boothby]

I've been meaning to buy one, but havn't gotten around to gettin it. I've had my plenum off maybe 6-8 times and rebuilt my complete secondary vac system. What do you need to know? I havn't had to work with the injector's yet since the car came with RC's and has been flawless that way. Do you have a FSM or an LT-5 engine suppliment?

[Kevin]

have both the fsm and lt-5 supplement, this also isn't my first plenum pull but I haven't had to do it in probably 8 years so i'm more then a bit rusty. I know I have to drain the coolant, disconnect the fuel line, map sesnor...something under then plenum...my father thinks it's a clip and I think it's a bolt...and there's a c clip somewhere that I have to be careful not to drop...

[John Boothby]

I drained the upper coolant resivoir to below the tubes with turkey baster or syphon hose. Then put a good rag under the hose connection at the pass side rear of the plenum when I disconnected it. It usually just drips some.

Do not forget to get a set of gaskets before you start the job. I used the thicker ones from Jerry.

Disconnect all the outer hose and electrical connections. This includes the throttle cables (this takes some patience) and intake duct, pvc lines out of the sides, MAP sensor hose, IAP connector, etc . These are all visible.

I used a piece of cardboard about the size of the plenum, and like a template, marked the plenum bolt holes and numbered them so that as I removed the screws holding down the plenum I could place them in the corresponding hole in the cardboard. It also helps to use plastic baggies to place all the hardware you remove and you can label each to make putting it back together easier and you won't lose any parts.

I used a wooden hammer handle to hold up the front of the plenum so I could disconnect the ignition module and front vac line. If you have help, they can hold it up. Be careful as the clips on the connections are old and can break.

There are 4 connector's (2 in front and 2 in back) of the ignition module under the back of the plenum. There is a vac hose under the front of the plenum (under the air horn) that needs to be disconnected as you lift the front of the plenum up.

Take your time and use the manuals for reference. The plenum screws go back and are torqued to I believe 20fps in a specific sequence shown in the manual.

It really is not that big of a job and you can do it yourself if you just take your time. The hardest part for me was holding the front of the plenum up to disconnect everything underneath. I bought a wooden hammer handle about 12-14 inches long and it worked perfect.

The above is for removing the plenum only, not the IH's.

Have fun. If you have any specific questions when you get into it, I'll try and help.

[Bob Eyres]

no one has one they'd be willing to loan? I'd be happy to pay shipping both ways and a deposit if you felt necessary

Or, better yet, cough up the fifty bucks to get one for yourself. Show that skinny guy some respect. He does a lot to educate the rest of us about the LT5.

Like you remind us every time you post, "It's not the car, it's the people."

[USAFPILOT]

I hate the brittle old plastic. Those connectors always break. Is there a good technique for securing them again afterwards, maybe a rubber band or something? I figure the pressure and friction will hold it together anyway, and has so far.

[John Boothby]

Most important, DISCONNECT THE BATTERY before you do anything!!

Those plastic clips will break!! I find that the plugs will stay secure anyway, as long as you plug them in all the way.

Bob is right about supporting each other. But I also know that $50 bucks is not chicken feed. I am sure it is worth it.

[Z51JEFF]

Or, better yet, cough up the fifty bucks to get one for yourself. Show that skinny guy some respect. He does a lot to educate the rest of us about the LT5.

Like you remind us every time you post, "It's not the car, it's the people."

We like to take care of one another if at all possible,thats what we do here.Stick around long enough,you just might need to borrow something sometime.

[Bob Eyres]

We like to take care of one another if at all possible,thats what we do here.

That was the point of the post. I'd be very surprised if he bought the DVD and found that he didn't save himself at least $50.00 in time and aggravation.
I don't know of anyone in the hobby that contributes their knowledge of this car for free more than Marc. So when he packages that expertise on a video to help you do a good job, why not let him make a few bucks from it.
Just a thought, not meant to offend anyone.

[Paul Workman]

Disconnect all the outer hose and electrical connections. This includes the throttle cables (this takes some patience) and intake duct, pvc lines out of the sides, MAP sensor hose, IAP connector, etc . These are all visible.



Very good overview of the whole procedure.

Thought I would share a little trick I found helps with the throttle (and a 90s cruise control cable).

Once I get the cover off the TB cables, I rotate the "half moon" cable spools on the TB to WOT and wedge a small screwdriver handle under them. You'll see what/where I mean, next time you're "in there". I would think a piece of a 3/4" wooden doll would work too. Sure makes that little process a LOT easier - not having to fight the spring tension while trying to faniggle the cables out of their sockets.

P.

[Z51JEFF]

Very good overview of the whole procedure.

Thought I would share a little trick I found helps with the throttle (and a 90s cruise control cable).

Once I get the cover off the TB cables, I rotate the "half moon" cable spools on the TB to WOT and wedge a small screwdriver handle under them. You'll see what/where I mean, next time you're "in there". I would think a piece of a 3/4" wooden doll would work too. Sure makes that little process a LOT easier - not having to fight the spring tension while trying to faniggle the cables out of their sockets.

P.

I think those of us that have done this a few times have a few tips that make the job a bit easier.Last time I did mine I found what I believe is a provision in the cable linkage that allows it to be fixed in an open position making work with the cables easier.

[Z51JEFF]

That was the point of the post. I'd be very surprised if he bought the DVD and found that he didn't save himself at least $50.00 in time and aggravation.
I don't know of anyone in the hobby that contributes their knowledge of this car for free more than Marc. So when he packages that expertise on a video to help you do a good job, why not let him make a few bucks from it.
Just a thought, not meant to offend anyone.

What Im getting at here is that you need something,somebody's got it and is more than happy to loan it.

[Bob Eyres]

What Im getting at here is that you need something,somebody's got it and is more than happy to loan it.

What I'm getting at here, is what you're not getting. That an informational video is not a hand tool that might be used once and passed around, but someone's intellectual property. It cost Marc money to write, shoot, edit, dub, package, and sell it to a very small audience. If he wanted to give it away he'd put it up on U-Tube and we'd all have it for free.

Why not just borrow one, dub off 50 of them, and send them out for the price of postage. Then Marc will be sure not to make another one.

Where's the "Dead Horse" icon? This is getting old.

[QB93Z]

What I'm getting at here, is what you're not getting. That an informational video is not a hand tool that might be used once and passed around, but someone's intellectual property. It cost Marc money to write, shoot, edit, dub, package, and sell it to a very small audience. If he wanted to give it away he'd put it up on U-Tube and we'd all have it for free.

Why not just borrow one, dub off 50 of them, and send them out for the price of postage. Then Marc will be sure not to make another one.

Where's the "Dead Horse" icon? This is getting old.

I agree with what you said Bob. The ZR-1 Net Registry does not condone the copying and or free distribution of other people's copyrighted material.

This is the end of the story.

Jim