Prom tune in the Northeast

[91MinuteMan]

When I got my Z last fall I put in a Haibek chip. I would hate to think that I have to drive to go to Haibek's shop from Boston to fine tune the chip. The Vette Drs told me that they don't do prom programming. Any suggestons?

[Aurora40]

Callaway maybe?

[1990 quasar blue]

When I got my Z last fall I put in a Haibek chip. I would hate to think that I have to drive to go to Haibek's shop from Boston to fine tune the chip. The Vette Drs told me that they don't do prom programming. Any suggestons?
Are you serious that the Vette Docs won't do it? I also have a Haibeck chip and was thinking about doing the same thing. The Docs still advertise packages for the Z, you would think that they would tune them. I guess were in the same boat.

[Fort94z]

Are you serious that the Vette Docs won't do it? I also have a Haibeck chip and was thinking about doing the same thing. The Docs still advertise packages for the Z, you would think that they would tune them. I guess were in the same boat.


I think the Vette Doctors use DRM for their proms. Thats what they installed in mine when I had work done.

[91MinuteMan]

What I was told is they could do some dyno pulls and street test and come up with some of the parameters that need adjusting and then pull the chip and send it back to Haibek. This quote,"could take several back and forths before it was right" or something close to that. I might be better off driving to Illinois. Anybody up for a caravan? My mapping program shows it as a simple 15hr51min jaunt covering 1002 miles one way.

[1990 quasar blue]

I think the Vette Doctors use DRM for their proms. Thats what they installed in mine when I had work done.
Thanks, up until last night I always thought that they did it themselves.


What I was told is they could do some dyno pulls and street test and come up with some of the parameters that need adjusting and then pull the chip and send it back to Haibek. This quote,"could take several back and forths before it was right" or something close to that. I might be better off driving to Illinois. Anybody up for a caravan? My mapping program shows it as a simple 15hr51min jaunt covering 1002 miles one way.
I've been thinking about getting the heads ported so maybe late fall I'd consider making that journey. Another option is B.G. I think Marc will be there doing some tuning in a few weeks. As far as 15hr51min, you could spend that much time on 128!:thumbsup:

[FU]

We should all pitch in on an enclosed transporter for a delivery to Marc's.
And drive 'em home !!

[1990 quasar blue]

Now that's a good idea Frank.:thumbsup:

[tomtom72]

Lost in the north east, that's what we should call this thread? No maybe a drift in the north atlantic?!:sign10:

That is not a bad idea Frank. I think it's much better than the thought that runs thru my head occasionally...go to Gordon's school for the full course, buy a shop, work on my Z myself. :read2: :mrgreen:

[blackjack]

good idea,tomtom...ill supply the milling and the lathe
blackjack

[ZR-1 Mack]

When I got my Z last fall I put in a Haibek chip. I would hate to think that I have to drive to go to Haibek's shop from Boston to fine tune the chip. The Vette Drs told me that they don't do prom programming. Any suggestons?

Out of curiosity is there a problem or are you just adding some custom features on the chip you have? The reason I asked is adding the custom feature is only $100 while the dyno tune is $200/ hr. (1/2 consultation and 1/2 facility charge) plus the travel expense.

[91MinuteMan]

Out of curiosity is there a problem or are you just adding some custom features on the chip you have? The reason I asked is adding the custom feature is only $100 while the dyno tune is $200/ hr. (1/2 consultation and 1/2 facility charge) plus the travel expense.

No major modifications in the works--it is just that beneath the sound of the exhaust and tire road noise I am almost sure I hear steady knocking on acceleration, but honestly I wouldn't bet my life on it. I am going to pull the plugs this weekend and replace them with one step cooler plugs and see if this helps. I also am not happy with the idle as it occasionally, randomly and infrequently has started to fluctuate. The car also tends to crank 3 or 4 times before it starts, warm or cold, although sometimes it starts quicker. Overall the runs pretty good and I always have to consider that I may be too critical.

[FU]

Knocking or pinging ?
One range colder than stock is good for a car that is stock or some top end mods.
Red Line injector cleaner may help out a bit.

[91MinuteMan]

Knocking or pinging ?
One range colder than stock is good for a car that is stock or some top end mods.
Red Line injector cleaner may help out a bit.

I would say ping is a better description. The engine is mostly stock with a K&N filter and port matched intake plenum and exhaust. I will try the red line.

[ZR-1 Mack]

Nothing wrong with getting the most out of your car. I was thinking about a Haibeck chip but I don't think I want to do it until after I change out my existing OEM injectors first $$$$. I replaced a bad primary injector last May and the next time one goes I'm doing all 16.

[91MinuteMan]

Knocking or pinging ?
One range colder than stock is good for a car that is stock or some top end mods.
Red Line injector cleaner may help out a bit.

Well, the colder plugs are in and I've done a few high rev blasts down the Mass Pike with the red line in and it sounds a lot better. New question, I have a habit of drifting to a stop clutch in with gears in neutral (dating myself, I learned on a 3 on the tree and this is how my dad taught me to drive, so it is now well engrained). From the time I put in the clutch until I come to a stop the revs run at about 1200. When I come to a full stop they go down to about 700, which is the normal warm idle speed. The Z is my first manual with a computer controlling the engine so any thoughts whether this is typical?

[tomtom72]

I think that the idle speed "hang" in neutral @ coast down is a program that reduces exhaust emissions upon de-accleration. Back in the old days, around the early 70's, some cars had de-accel valves. I know my 72 V6 Capri had one. It did the same thing that my 90 Z does when you coast down from speed in neutral to a stop, I'm that old too!:o

It seems that the program will not let the motor return to idle speed instantly but rather the idle speed seems to come down in two steps & takes a few seconds to get back to 6-700 rpms as I coast down to a stop in neutral in my Z. I even notice that if I coast down to a stop in gear it seems like I loose my compression breaking for brief periods & then it's there & then it's not & then it's there again. I figured that since my ECM was not setting any codes that this must be part of the emissions program?? I don't know enough about EEC motors to say for sure but mine does this all the time and it's passed emissions testing two yrs on a dyno here in NYS so I just figured that it is "normal". I would think it prevents a rich condition during closed throtle de-accleration??? I know that's what the idea of the "de-accel" valve was in my Capri, rich emissions prevention @ de-accleration.

[91MinuteMan]

Sounds like a reasonable explanation to me. Knowing that this happens to at least 1 other Z takes it off my mental check list. Thanks.

[haber rj]

Hello gentlemen yes it has been awhile since I have been on the form, I finally got situated in the new position at work and boy I thought I had problems with the car. Well I managed to find the time to install the new RC injectors and a set of the plenum power plates and the car runs fine. It was so nice to fire it up again. We made a few dyno pulls on Monday and the new prom works great up to 6900 R.P.M. making 370 H.P. to the ground but then the air/fuel reading went from 13.5 down to 11.5 from there to 7200. The horse power reading didn't fall off, so I have to send the prom back to Aaron at S.G. Corvettes for some final tuning. This is a bit of a pain not having a tuner that can do all this stuff with in a reasonable driving distance. Oh well we will play the FedEx game back and forth for a few times again until we get it right.
Haber rj

[tomtom72]

Haber rj, those are some nice numbers! Glad to hear your Z is back to it's old self. RC sells some nice parts. Also glad to hear that the job is a good fit.:thumbsup:

:cheers:
Tom

[haber rj]

Hey Tom yes it seems that the headers, exhaust, the new prom and some other adjustments that were made worked out not bad so far. I think that I am just going to stop trying to beat the world and just enjoy driving my car. I have some cosmetics to change but that will be it, thanks for the reply.
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[tomtom72]

haber, you know that next to military secrets.....speed secrets are the most fleeting of all. My friend who used to race back in the 70's told me there will always be someone quicker!:sign10:

I just wanna drive the car because it makes me :mrgreen: so much! I know that there will always be someone quicker but it may not necessarily be another ZR-1! We are unique!

:cheers:
Tom