WTB 49th Street rockers

[RICKYRJ1]

As title states, I'm looking for a set of the 49th st. rockers. As most of you know I have mod issues :o Any and all help is much appreciated :cheers:

[Kevin]

I think Mim wanted to swap the set she has for a stock set. See if you can contact her and see if she still wants too

[Blue Flame Restorations]

I know where a set is being prepped for molds and repro's...........:)

[-=Jeff=-]

I know where a set is being prepped for molds and repro's...........:)

Yeah but no word has been said on status or even a price....

[Kb7tif]

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii68/illenema/vettep002.jpgI know where a set is being prepped for molds and repro's...........:)

Cool!!

These were the 2 piece rockers, the rear wing was 49th street also.

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Yeah but no word has been said on status or even a price....


Well, all I need to do is make the molds now. The price won't be mine to set. I'm just making the molds. Should be done in February-March time-frame.

[pantera1683]

I, for one, can't wait; hopefully the price will be reasonable ;)

[-=Jeff=-]

Well, all I need to do is make the molds now. The price won't be mine to set. I'm just making the molds. Should be done in February-March time-frame.

SO is the person you are making the molds for even going to market them?

[Blue Flame Restorations]

SO is the person you are making the molds for even going to market them?

Yep

The plan is to market the one piece, I believe. I am going to make the two (2) pc into a one (1) pc rocker. No need for the two pcs.

[RICKYRJ1]

Yep

The plan is to market the one piece, I believe. I am going to make the two (2) pc into a one (1) pc rocker. No need for the two pcs.


OK, its seems this is my only option at this point? Hope this pans out if not I'm still lookin. Thanks

[Blue Flame Restorations]

OK, its seems this is my only option at this point? Hope this pans out if not I'm still lookin. Thanks


The owner of the parts is committed to marketing them soon. He's waiting on me.

[-=Jeff=-]

The owner of the parts is committed to marketing them soon. He's waiting on me.

Do you know what the person is looking to charge for these?

Also do you have permission to post a pic of the ones you made from the mold? I would like to see them

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Do you know what the person is looking to charge for these?

Also do you have permission to post a pic of the ones you made from the mold? I would like to see them


I won't have the molds done until Feb-March time frame. I don't know what price range he intends to market them at. I have to get them done first. I have a shop full of cars that are a first priority at the moment.

[bobbyhi]

Could you explain to me the 1 piece vs. 2 piece?? I have 49th St rockers and they are 1 piece.:icon_scra

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Could you explain to me the 1 piece vs. 2 piece?? I have 49th St rockers and they are 1 piece.:icon_scra

My limited understanding is that the first design rockers were two pieces. The front piece, with the ZR-1 emblem attached, is a seperate piece that screws onto the rocker panel..

The second design is a one piece unit.

Others with more knowledge may chime in.

[Kb7tif]

Heres with the insert. http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii68/illenema/th_rock.jpgMy limited understanding is that the first design rockers were two pieces. The front piece, with the ZR-1 emblem attached, is a seperate piece that screws onto the rocker panel..

The second design is a one piece unit.

Others with more knowledge may chime in.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii68/illenema/th_rock11.jpg

Here is a pic of one missing the insert..

[ScottZ95ZR1]

Brett is working on a used set of what I believe to be early-version 49th Street rockers for me.
These are the rocker panels off the white '92 that Kb7tif (illenema on CF) owned. He has posted in this thread with links to photos of his car with them installed and here it is:

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd353/scottcollier/Misc/illenema49thStrtRckrs.jpg

It seems there was an early version of 49th Street rocker panels; the small forward section where the emblem is placed was made separately, then attached (not very well) to the rocker panel.
This small piece was missing from the passenger side of the set I obtained. The driver’s side piece was fixed to the rocker panel by ONLY one screw under the emblem.
Illenema started a thread on CF searching for a replacement piece back in Sep 2008. In that thread -=Jeff=- posted that he recognized these as 49th Street rockers sold by ChromeCo in the early ‘90s. Here is a link to that thread: http://forums.*************.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/2121251-49th-street-rockers.html (http://forums.*************.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/2121251-49th-street-rockers.html).
Of course it has been censored because it is this forum's long-standing policy to do so, for some reason.

Here are a couple pics the current owner of the car sent when he removed the rockers.

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd353/scottcollier/Misc/2.png

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd353/scottcollier/Misc/3.png

Brett is making the replacement piece for the passenger side rocker, and will then make one-piece molds from which he will produce the set for my car.

There have been several threads on the other forum with discussion of "reasonable price" for repros.
Here is a link to one of those CF threads: http://forums.*************.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/2552924-49th-street-rockers-available.html (http://forums.*************.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/2552924-49th-street-rockers-available.html)
Again, I'm sure that link has been censored because it is this forum's long-standing policy to do so, for some reason.

I believe the 49th Street rockers sold at $745 per pair in 1996. IMO that might be a great price to shoot for if perfect, one-piece molds are achieved.
More to come as progress is made.

[Kevin]

that does look like a zr-1 that was modded in the late 90's. I remember seeing a few of those that were done that way when i first had my car. great looking car

[RICKYRJ1]

Hey Scott, Thanks for the update on your project. Keep us updated :cheers:

[ScottZ95ZR1]

Hey Scott, Thanks for the update on your project. Keep us updated :cheers:

Wasn't trying to keep it a secret, Rick - was just waiting until we are closer to having perfect, one-piece molds. :handshak:

[-=Jeff=-]

Yes Thanks Scott.. Did not know it was your project. I guess there has been a lot of talk about these in the past too, but nothing yet. looking forward to seeing them complete.. then finding the $$ to buy a set

[RICKYRJ1]

Wasn't trying to keep it a secret, Rick - was just waiting until we are closer to having perfect, one-piece molds. :handshak:

Hey Scott, I didn't mean to imply you were holding out on your Z-Brothers. I'm just happy we have a solid brother like you taking this on. You know me, I'm all about the MODS! :-D :saluting:

[-=Jeff=-]

Hey Scott, I didn't mean to imply you were holding out on your Z-Brothers. I'm just happy we have a solid brother like you taking this on. You know me, I'm all about the MODS! :-D :saluting:


Yes I agree.. glad it is an active member and not someone looking to get the molds and disappear..

[LGAFF]

49th St Rockers were made by
Automotive Engineering and Design
2650 Wlanut Ave
Tustin CA


714-832-0752.....not sure if this is still good.

[GOLDCYLON]

49th St Rockers were made by
Automotive Engineering and Design
2650 Wlanut Ave
Tustin CA


714-832-0752.....not sure if this is still good.


Lee just dialed that number it has been disconnected or is no longer in service

[GOLDCYLON]

Yes I agree.. glad it is an active member and not someone looking to get the molds and disappear..


Concur

[-=Jeff=-]

e 49th st. rockers

Well, all I need to do is make the molds now. I'm just making the molds. Should be done in February-March time-frame.

What is the status on the Molds? I know of a few who want these rockers

[Blue Flame Restorations]

What is the status on the Molds? I know of a few who want these rockers

I'll try to finish up the molds next weekend. Not much left to do.

[-=Jeff=-]

I'll try to finish up the molds next weekend. Not much left to do.

cool.. so when the molds are complete then it is a matter of the owner of the molds to start making them right? COOL

[Blue Flame Restorations]

cool.. so when the molds are complete then it is a matter of the owner of the molds to start making them right? COOL


I'll make them and the owner will sell them.

[npritchard777]

I'd like to sign up for a set too!

[-=Jeff=-]

Status?

[ScottZ95ZR1]

Visited Brett's shop today and he's made some real progress on the rockers.

I have a question to all interested in these.....

The 49th Street Rockers have the somewhat rectangular recessed area on the forward section to accomodate the emblem.

Although I do think the LT5 badges look great there, I'm thinking I might prefer to go without the badges, with a smooth surface.

How would you want yours?

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd353/scottcollier/Misc/8c6fee44.jpg

[Blue Flame Restorations]

My preference would be to do without the recess and give the buyer the option of running with no emblem or adhering an emblem to the face of the rocker.

Emblems seem to run about $75 each and finding them in the correct color may prove difficult for certain color combos. Painting emblems would be another option for the "buyer" to do, IMO.

The LT5 emblem is even harder to obtain, unless I supply them (unpainted) at an additional cost.

[pantera1683]

I prefer it as pictured, with emblem and recess.

[npritchard777]

I can go either way on that, maybe leaning slightly toward no emblem or recess.

-Nate

[DaveK]

I don't have a preference - either way will do.

[Toyvet1]

No emblem here

[-=Jeff=-]

Either way.. I just need to find the extra $$ to buy a set now

[PhillipsLT5]

no emblem/no recess on rocker, already more than enough labels in other places

[tf95ZR1]

no emblem/no recess on rocker, already more than enough labels in other places

I agree. For Me, no emblem/recess

[RICKYRJ1]

I agree. For Me, no emblem/recess

I concure :saluting:

[RHanselman]

I already have the LT5 emblems and would like the recess...

[MikeGolf]

no emblem/no recess on rocker, already more than enough labels in other places

Hard enough to match the color of the emblems, too!

[ScottZ95ZR1]

Figured by now to hear......

"Badges?.... we don't need no stinkin' badges!"....;)

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Well, the rockers are finally ready for primer and prep before mold making begins. I plan to make the molds before I leave for Bowling Green.

#702 made for a good model for fitment prior to the mold process.

The front piece for the passenger side was MIA, so I made a mirror image piece of the drivers side, shaping by hand. I then bonded it to the main body of the passenger side rocker panel.

http://i45.tinypic.com/35au1wm.jpg

[ScottZ95ZR1]

Looks good Brett!

[-=Jeff=-]

SWEET.. so what might these be selling for?

[4-cam]

Very nice workmanship

[tomtom72]

You do some nice work sir! :thumbsup:

Sooooo, is this a one off, or might the mold work be toward the production of replicas? Oh, yea, I forgot to ask....:o..ball park number if these were to be produced? Yea, I know if ya have to ask, ya can't afford it! :sign10:


:cheers:
Tom

[Blue Flame Restorations]

There will be new replicas made at a sale price of $800 plus shipping. They will be primered and ready for paint prep.

[FU]

Try and bring one set to BG. It will give everyone something to drool over. And take orders.

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Try and bring one set to BG. It will give everyone something to drool over. And take orders.

Hi Frank!
I'd love to but I'm just starting the molds today. It's a three day process because of the three piece molds. Each side requires two mold halves plus the inside peice behind the front section where the emblem once resided. That's three mold pieces per side.

We'll probably paint and install a set so people can see how nice the finished product looks on the car. I think they'd look good in Turquoise or white. LOL

[FU]

We'll probably paint and install a set so people can see how nice the finished product looks on the car. I think they'd look good in Turquoise or white. LOL

That would be great. People would really like to see them. Thank's for bringing this back into the spotlight Brett :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[-=Jeff=-]

Will this be a short run or a build as needed?

just trying to figure out the cash to buy a set that I have wanted since the 90s

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Will this be a short run or a build as needed?

just trying to figure out the cash to buy a set that I have wanted since the 90s

I will build them as needed but make a short run at first. This will allow shorter lead times for those interested in having them now.
:cheers:

[tf95ZR1]

There will be new replicas made at a sale price of $800 plus shipping. They will be primered and ready for paint prep.

That is for both sides, right?

[Blue Flame Restorations]

That is for both sides, right?


Yes, a complete pair. They'll be more info as we get closer to manufacturing. I hope to make the first set by the end of next week.

[FU]

That is for both sides, right?

Only the east side of the Country get's both sides Ted :dancing

[tf95ZR1]

Only the east side of the Country get's both sides Ted :dancing

Front and Rear I heard, Frank!
Wish I could be with y'all in BG.
Driving your car (do you remember?)
was way cool! And with Keith, to boot!

[Blue Flame Restorations]

UPDATE 05/23/12

The mold of the hidden scoop piece for each side has been made. I'll be making half of the actual front side molds tomorrow. They will be a two piece mold. It will take an extra day for each half. So, all in all, three molds per rocker panel. The completed molds should be done by the end of the weekend.

Anyway, I should be making the first set next week.

http://i47.tinypic.com/psu3d.jpg

[MikeGolf]

Brett, Enjoy the weekend. Take some time off, a whole 3 day weekend! Have a drink for a Veteran, that can't.
:cheers:
:USFlag:

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Brett, Enjoy the weekend. Take some time off, a whole 3 day weekend! Have a drink for a Veteran, that can't.
:cheers:
:USFlag:

Jeff, you bet! I'll have a cold one for you while listening to the Indy500. :cheers:

Thanks so much for your service:proud:

[ScottZ95ZR1]

UPDATE 05/23/12

Anyway, I should be making the first set next week.



Fantastic! :icon_thum

[GOLDCYLON]

Fantastic! :icon_thum

Scott are you getting the first set?

[ScottZ95ZR1]

Scott are you getting the first set?

Yes, that's the plan. I'm really looking forward to getting them!

Dropped by to see Brett this afternoon and they are coming along very nicely.

Thanks Brett! :dancing

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Molds are almost done. The hard part is over with, anyway. The rockers are detailed for imperfections, primered, wet sanded and then buffed with mold wax. The mold release has been sprayed and is now drying. Gel coat will follow and the first part of the molds will be done this evening.

This has been alot of work but will be a cool venture and make some ZR-1 guys happy. :cheers:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2884ci.jpg

[Blue Flame Restorations]

7:15pm. Gel coat applied on the first mold halves. This is the nasty part, as the gel coat is just aweful to deal with. Doing my Callaway molds at the same time so I can widen the panels for the ZR-1 fitment for #702.

http://i46.tinypic.com/20p4fud.jpg

[Blue Flame Restorations]

3:30am. Finally done with the first mold half. It was long 19 hr day just to get this far. I'll finish them up tomorrow afternoon.

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Completed the second mold halve of the main rocker. The hidden scoop mold is also done. Should have a set of rockers made by the weekend.

http://i45.tinypic.com/29atq4h.jpg

[ScottZ95ZR1]

Visited with Brett this afternoon and saw the molds.

They look fantastic. :dancing The man has mad skills and is a perfectionist.

More than just 49th Street Rockers going on in that shop, too! :cool:

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Minor setback. I mis-calculated the degree of wedge on the mold and will have to make new molds in order to get the part out of the mold without damaging the part or the mold.

I have a 74 to get to the paint shop and I will then make new molds again.

Stay tuned...........

[-=Jeff=-]

I saw the post about the ZR-1molds and remembered about this

any news?

[Blue Flame Restorations]

It will be after Carlisle before I can begin working on it again.

[-=Jeff=-]

I understand, I just figured I would ask since nothing has been mentioned since June

Thanks for the update

[Blue Flame Restorations]

After Carlsile, I plan to finish my Callaway project and also do these rocker panels at the same time. Sorry for the delay.

[-=Jeff=-]

After Carlsile, I plan to finish my Callaway project and also do these rocker panels at the same time. Sorry for the delay.

no worries, I was just curious..

[-=Jeff=-]

Bump.. Curious as always

[Blue Flame Restorations]

October/Nov time-frame. Customer cars always seem to get in the way.....

[-=Jeff=-]

October/Nov time-frame. Customer cars always seem to get in the way.....

No Worries

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Finally getting back on these this month. New molds in the making.

I'll post pics when they are done.

[Blue Flame Restorations]

The rockers for the mold pattern have been repaired and are now ready for the new molds.

Lots going on here in the shop.

http://i56.tinypic.com/28ujytt.jpg

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Mold making process will begin this weekend, now that the Rear Bumper Molding project is coming to a close. Should have a sample set done by BG in May.

[VetteVet]

Can't wait!!!

I'm not a big fan of body mods, but this is one that I would be interested in.

Jep

P.S. I'm not knocking the CAB cars(Robert, Dennis, et al), they are in a class of their own.

[-=Jeff=-]

SO what is the story on these rockers..

Brett are you still going to remake them?

[Blue Flame Restorations]

SO what is the story on these rockers..

Brett are you still going to remake them?

YES. Finishing molds this weekend....finally

[-=Jeff=-]

YES. Finishing molds this weekend....finally

Cool

[Blue Flame Restorations]

How many people want a set?

[RHanselman]

Well, I have a set on my dream list if that counts...

[Fully Vetted]

Brett, do you have a pic of a car with them on?

[Fully Vetted]

Nevermind. Earlier part of the thread has pics. Also found some pics on CAC.

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Nevermind. Earlier part of the thread has pics. Also found some pics on CAC.

Someplace, David. I'll have to dig it up when I get back in the house. On my phone at the moment

[-=Jeff=-]

How many people want a set?

I do .. do you have an idea on the price for a set?

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Hi Jeff, the cost will be $800 plus shipping.

[-=Jeff=-]

ok.. I still want a set

[Blue Flame Restorations]

You have the second set. Scott Collier receives the first set.

:cheers:

[RHanselman]

Brett,

Are you going to try any Snake Skinner Rockers?

I have an idea to hide an oil cooler inside the passenger rocker and an air to water inter-cooler in the other. The SS Rockers may be the only rockers out there that might be large enough...

Cheers,
Ron

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Brett,

Are you going to try any Snake Skinner Rockers?

I have an idea to hide an oil cooler inside the passenger rocker and an air to water inter-cooler in the other. The SS Rockers may be the only rockers out there that might be large enough...

Cheers,
Ron

Yes. I'll be making panels from the original molds. The hood will be the cat's meow!

[RHanselman]

Yes. I'll be making panels from the original molds. The hood will be the cat's meow!

Agreed...

I'd like to get the Rockers done for the Turbo Car.

FYI,

I just came from the body shop with the SS Ruby. Received an estimate to add the stripes like the Blue Morrison. Looks like it may happen sooner than later...

[pantera1683]

I want a set

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Agreed...

I'd like to get the Rockers done for the Turbo Car.

FYI,

I just came from the body shop with the SS Ruby. Received an estimate to add the stripes like the Blue Morrison. Looks like it may happen sooner than later...

Cool!!

[ScottZ95ZR1]

YES. Finishing molds this weekend....finally

Great news! :dancing

How many people want a set?

There were several that held their hands up on the CF, and at least 3 or 4 of them I don't see over here for some reason.

I am ready when you are. Let me know when I should set it up with R&S to have them do their magic.

It will be good to get some pictures of the BF (Blue Flame) ROCKERS posted up!

[RHanselman]

It will be good to get some pictures of the BF (Blue Flame) ROCKERS posted up!

Good point. They really aren't 49th Street Rockers...

Maybe he should name them 69th Street Rockers... :p

[Blue Flame Restorations]

I'll just be glad to get them done for everyone who wants them

[Blue Flame Restorations]

1/2 way done with the molds. Should be finished up on Wednesday of this week.

http://i41.tinypic.com/i3dnog.jpg

[Toyvet1]

I'm in for a set...