Vansteel Coilovers

[Shrek]

I’ve been told my slow methodical methods are painful to watch!

SO HERE YA GO TED!!!!!!

Mocked up the install to check clearances. Just need to tidy up some hardware and they'll be ready to install.


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[Shrek]

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TODAY’S HELPER
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[Demps]

Look, you even put Callaway to sleep.....
Ted

[Shrek]

Look, you even put Callaway to sleep.....
Ted
:blahblah::blahblah::blahblah::blahblah::blahblah: :blahblah:

[ZZZZZR1]

Jeff,

Thanks for posting this!

How much are these coilovers? Could you evaluate them too?

Love to hear what you think!!!!!!!!!

:cheers:

David

[Demps]

I'll tell you my visual opinion--significantly more capable race application.

No cockpit (FX3) adjustment but better in every other way than the DRM coilovers I have.

Ted

[Shrek]

Jeff,

Thanks for posting this!

How much are these coilovers? Could you evaluate them too?

Love to hear what you think!!!!!!!!!

:cheers:

David

http://www.vansteel.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=shop.showItem&subgroup=1972&ID=3178


I'll give my impression of this setup later this year if she let's her crew chief drive it!:(

[Paul in VA]

I would also like to hear about the Delalum bushings... any comments?

[Hib Halverson]

If you're gonna not use the SRC shocks, the QA1 DA's are a great choice, especially for race track use.

I do not have QA1 DAs on a C4 but I put them on a 4Gen Camaro project last year and they were an excellent choice. They have a lot of valving bandwidth and that they are adjustable for both compression and rebound give you a lot of damping choices.

QA1 makes a great product.

[RICKYRJ1]

What are your thoughts on the Banski hardware? Thanks :handshak:

[GOLDCYLON]

What are your thoughts on the Banski hardware? Thanks :handshak:


Im not going back. Im running the trailing arms as well. Highly recommend the Heim joint covers if you choose to order

[RICKYRJ1]

Im not going back. Im running the trailing arms as well. Highly recommend the Heim joint covers if you choose to order

Thanks GC, this is one mod I would like to do in 2012. I need to get my coin up! :cheers:

[ZZZZZR1]

I'll tell you my visual opinion--significantly more capable race application.

No cockpit (FX3) adjustment but better in every other way than the DRM coilovers I have.

Ted

I like the FX3 / DRM coilovers, but then again I don't have anything to compare it to.

My drive to Florida will be the real test... 3.5, miles in 2 weeks!

:cheers:

David

[GOLDCYLON]

I like the FX3 / DRM coilovers, but then again I don't have anything to compare it to.

My drive to Florida will be the real test... 3.5, miles in 2 weeks!

:cheers:

David


A whole 3.5 miles steady on David :o

[GOLDCYLON]

Look, you even put Callaway to sleep.....
Ted


2nd Pic should be captioned "Did somebody say Milkbone?"

[GOLDCYLON]

http://www.vansteel.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=shop.showItem&subgroup=1972&ID=3178


I'll give my impression of this setup later this year if she let's her crew chief drive it!:(


This setup looks like a welcome improvement over the DRM coilovers for fitment. First it appears they have solved the rear notching issue with the adapt plates hardware in order to mount in the original mounting holes. The DRM rear set up is too fat on top and the front of the mount points have to be notched forward. Carter I believe has now made blocks to solve this? Also it apears the adjustment setting are alittle more usable however the ease of spining a single adjustment wrench may out perform the ability to do the fine tuning (for the track of course not at home). Looking at the vansteel setup it apprears they still use the spanner compression wrench so not sure what the top adjustment do?

Did you have to relocate the front suspension swaybar with the guildstrand kit or? You do on the DRM kit.

I also assume you went with the new trailing arms (Dog bones) as the coils are too fat for the normal hardware without shaving? Another DRM issue (Actually a hypercoil issue).

One thing DRM does having going for it although is the FX-3 system is retained.

[L8apex]

Dang I sure hope you pulled the WRONG Red '91 ZR-1 down off the rack when you did all those upgrades!

[Shrek]

Did you have to relocate the front suspension swaybar with the guildstrand kit or? You do on the DRM kit.
I'll be making my own relocation blocks for the front sway bar! I'm using prothane bushings front and rear.

I also assume you went with the new trailing arms (Dog bones) as the coils are too fat for the normal hardware without shaving? Another DRM issue (Actually a hypercoil issue).
Big fan of the adjustable heim stuff! Last setup we had was VBP but didn't care for the jam nut locking system. Thought we would try the Banski stuff this time around.

One thing DRM does having going for it although is the FX-3 system is retained.
Not a big deal for a dedicated track car.

I modified some of the Banski hardware for a little more clearance.
All in all, the Vansteel "kit" is a well engineered setup.

[scholtmj]

Are those Global West Delrin bushings in the front?

[Shrek]

Are those Global West Delrin bushings in the front?

Yes! http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16448

[GOLDCYLON]

Did you have to relocate the front suspension swaybar with the guildstrand kit or? You do on the DRM kit.
I'll be making my own relocation blocks for the front sway bar! I'm using prothane bushings front and rear.


Awesome I did the same with a Prothane total body kit as well. You may need to trim the front bushings a bit

I also assume you went with the new trailing arms (Dog bones) as the coils are too fat for the normal hardware without shaving? Another DRM issue (Actually a hypercoil issue).


Big fan of the adjustable heim stuff! Last setup we had was VBP but didn't care for the jam nut locking system. Thought we would try the Banski stuff this time around.

Me to on the Heim joints. I suggest the Banski boot covers. The heims become a squeaky nighmare if the dirt and grit is allowed to get into the heim joints surfaces. Banksi is great bunch of folks to deal with

One thing DRM does having going for it although is the FX-3 system is retained.

Not a big deal for a dedicated track car.

True mine is "steet" indeed in a track car really whats the issue



I modified some of the Banski hardware for a little more clearance.
All in all, the Vansteel "kit" is a well engineered setup.

[tomtom72]

:o as usual I'm a bit behind the curve on all this! :sign10:

My question concerns the front & rear mounting of anyone's coil over kit. You have to either cut or fabricate repositioning brackets:

For the front sway bar end links? and bar to frame mounts?

Rear upper mount needs either a hole cut in the frame? Or a fab'ed bracket/mounting plate?

In the rear, if you have OEM suspension parts there are clearance issues? VB&P told me not to use their spherical jointed control arms(?) for the street!

I'm not doing this anytime soon, but I'm trying to figure out how to do it and what parts to start buying....sorry for the Q's:redface:

:cheers:
Tom

The main reason I'm looking at this stuff is I figure at 22 yrs old my rear stuff, parts & bushings, is about at the end of it's useful life. I'm trying to figure the most cost effective way of restoring the rear suspension. I used NOS A-arms from CorvetteRecycling to redo the front end as it was cheaper than buying parts to fix what I had.

[carter200]

:o as usual I'm a bit behind the curve on all this! :sign10:

My question concerns the front & rear mounting of anyone's coil over kit. You have to either cut or fabricate repositioning brackets:

For the front sway bar end links? and bar to frame mounts?

Rear upper mount needs either a hole cut in the frame? Or a fab'ed bracket/mounting plate?


:cheers:
Tom



Tom,
I machine the front and rear mounting brackets you need :cheers:

[carter200]

Carter I believe has now made blocks to solve this?



Yes, I have............

[tomtom72]

Tom,
I machine the front and rear mounting brackets you need :cheers:

Oh, Okay then that takes care of that! Now I'm not so worried about what I thought was me having to 'butcher' my car. I hate cutting holes in things like frame rails! Thank you Carter!:handshak:

:cheers:
Tom

[Demps]

Oh, Okay then that takes care of that! Now I'm not so worried about what I thought was me having to 'butcher' my car. I hate cutting holes in things like frame rails! Thank you Carter!:handshak:

:cheers:
Tom

Tom,
Still have to for rear if you're retaining FX3(DRM kit) but Carter's mounting hardware alleviates cutting and welding rear bracket.

Front mounting block allows generic urethane bushing kit for front sway bar repositioning without altering front frame rail.

Ted

[carter200]

Yes, thanks Demps, and he needs to go back and read your write up on assembling the items so things will be very clear. I just heard you are in the Virginia area. You the the promo to 0-6?

[Shrek]

Final install of rear suspension with modified hardware!

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[Shrek]

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[Shrek]

Didn't get much done last weekend, roadtrip to go pick up the new trailer.
Got it rolling and running yesterday!

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[Shrek]

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GM wheels with fresh powder coat and new rubber!

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Old AFS wheels with new rubber!
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