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Blue Flame Restorations
10-15-2011, 12:40 AM
I finally officially nabbed a brand new Callaway AeroBody kit today. Life's good!

I wanted to get your opinion on something though.

I'm thinking that instead of having CALLAWAY plastered all over the rear bumper, maybe I should recess the ZR-1 Script Logo (the right size of course) into the center of the rear bumper. Afterall, I won't have a Callaway engine under the hood.

Thoughts from the Brotherhood?????

Kevin
10-15-2011, 12:44 AM
LOVE IT

WVZR-1
10-15-2011, 01:06 AM
I would think "CLEAN" - void of all or "CORVETTE"!

GOLDCYLON
10-15-2011, 02:36 AM
Either. That kit is sweet. I want one. Happy for you Brett!!!

HAWAIIZR-1
10-15-2011, 03:29 AM
I agree totally and that sounds cool. When I had the opportunity to buy the same kit about 7 years ago the only thing that stopped me is knowing that it would not really be genuine, but I really like the design. I don't know why, but that is the way I am and same thoughts with the Lingenfelter kit and felt if not genuine I did not want to fake it using the name not having the whole package. I have always felt the same about the imitation Z/28s or COPO cars as well as the people that put ZR-1 emblems on the standard Corvette.

LGAFF
10-15-2011, 10:16 AM
Brett did you buy the car on ebay?

JThomas
10-15-2011, 10:22 AM
I like the idea of the ZR-1 logo. It would be "unique".

Blue Flame Restorations
10-15-2011, 10:24 AM
Brett did you buy the car on ebay?


Nope. Too much for shipping all the way back to IN. I only wanted the AeroBody kit anyway. Bought it after the car didn't sell. He still has the parts if you need them?

Let the fun begin!

LGAFF
10-15-2011, 10:41 AM
Can you get me his contact info? There is an 85 in minneapolis for $8500 w/aero

Blue Flame Restorations
10-15-2011, 11:04 AM
Can you get me his contact info? There is an 85 in minneapolis for $8500 w/aero

Are you really trying to get me divorced?????:p

Check your email for contact info.

PhillipsLT5
10-15-2011, 01:25 PM
ZR-1 logo, sounds good

Blue Flame Restorations
11-02-2011, 11:24 PM
I am also thinking about making a modified rear bumper with stock tail lights with the ZR-1 script logo just to see how it looks. THOUGHTS????

If you don't have a CALLAWAY LT5 engine treatment, why have the CALLAWAY plastered all over the rear of the car anyway?

I just want my car to be different than the others. How in the heck do you compete with the "Atomic Z" anyway. LOL. That is one beautiful ZR-1!!

USAFPILOT
11-02-2011, 11:32 PM
atomic z is awesome...i'd just have to have it black

Kevin
11-02-2011, 11:34 PM
I am also thinking about making a modified rear bumper with stock tail lights with the ZR-1 script logo just to see how it looks. THOUGHTS????

If you don't have a CALLAWAY LT5 engine treatment, why have the CALLAWAY plastered all over the rear of the car anyway?

I just want my car to be different than the others. How in the heck do you compete with the "Atomic Z" anyway. LOL. That is one beautiful ZR-1!!

phills lpe 415 powered callaway areobodied 10.60 car is up there for me

I love that zr-1 script idea

Blue Flame Restorations
11-02-2011, 11:38 PM
phills lpe 415 powered callaway areobodied 10.60 car is up there for me

If that was the car at BG this year, it sure is. There are so many great looking ZR-1's out there, it's hard to set one apart from the rest. There just aren't that many options besides wheels and tires. The LPE cars are beautiful too. I'll end up modifying my Aero kit just enough to make it different but not screw it up....hopefully. LOL

Kevin
11-02-2011, 11:47 PM
i remember seeing it in 00 or 99 in BG, not sure if it was there last year as I didn't go. i think i have such a soft spot because it was the first properly modified zr-1 I'd seen running balls out. I can remember seeing phil under the car fixing a half shaft or something like like with the DS rear slick off, *** end up the car way up in the air. had a big impact on a young, impressionable zr-1er

cvette98pacecar
11-03-2011, 08:52 PM
The Kit is sold by Callaway for a ZR-1. The Truth is Reeves Callaway will not touch a C4 no matter how much money you gave him. I talked to him personally at Bloomington and asked him if he would TT the Purple Beast His answer was " no we dont do anything with C4 except sell replacement parts". I like the ZR1 logo that you are talking about, but lets be honest than you are taking a Callaway body kit and adding a little Shinoda flare. does the picture look familiar?

http://s1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa468/rdemarco06/?action=view&current=110-1063_IMG.jpg

The Callaway Body kit is the best looking kit in my opinion.

cvette98pacecar
11-03-2011, 09:03 PM
I agree totally and that sounds cool. When I had the opportunity to buy the same kit about 7 years ago the only thing that stopped me is knowing that it would not really be genuine, but I really like the design. I don't know why, but that is the way I am and same thoughts with the Lingenfelter kit and felt if not genuine I did not want to fake it using the name not having the whole package. I have always felt the same about the imitation Z/28s or COPO cars as well as the people that put ZR-1 emblems on the standard Corvette.

Not all CR-1 had engine work done to them. The 475 HP engine upgrade was a different option just as the Aerobody, B2k, SSNT were. There were also additional options that never found their way into B2k, ZR-1 or SSNT. I do believe there was a 15,000.00 interior option as well.

cvette98pacecar
11-03-2011, 09:05 PM
I finally officially nabbed a brand new Callaway AeroBody kit today. Life's good!

I wanted to get your opinion on something though.

I'm thinking that instead of having CALLAWAY plastered all over the rear bumper, maybe I should recess the ZR-1 Script Logo (the right size of course) into the center of the rear bumper. Afterall, I won't have a Callaway engine under the hood.

Thoughts from the Brotherhood?????

I finally officially nabbed a brand new Callaway AeroBody kit today. Life's good!

Enough said, You answered your own question.

Kevin
11-03-2011, 09:39 PM
Not all CR-1 had engine work done to them. The 475 HP engine upgrade was a different option just as the Aerobody, B2k, SSNT were. There were also additional options that never found their way into B2k, ZR-1 or SSNT. I do believe there was a 15,000.00 interior option as well.

that interior did look good in the speedsetrs though

cvette98pacecar
11-03-2011, 10:30 PM
that interior did look good in the speedsetrs though

It sure does look good.

Blue Flame Restorations
11-04-2011, 09:59 AM
I finally officially nabbed a brand new Callaway AeroBody kit today. Life's good!

Enough said, You answered your own question.


Thanks for your input. I think you'll be surprised after several subtle modifications are done to the kit. Not just the script logo.

A1990
11-04-2011, 11:07 AM
The new kits need several minor modifications to fit properly. Thanks for the props on my car Brett :cheers:

Let me know if you need anything. We had to have other owners take pictures of the finished product so we could determine how to make it look right.

GOLDCYLON
11-04-2011, 11:17 AM
It sure does look good.


Yeah I saw a vert over at the ZF-Docs with this treatment. I said wow.

Blue Flame Restorations
11-04-2011, 02:07 PM
There are a few things that will need attention to fit right. The front and side panels will need massaging to meet up with the stock body panels in a flush manner.

I "may" incorporate stock tail lights into the rear bumper.

If you've ever seen the 1995 LM Callaway cars, http://www.corvettelegends.com/callaway.htm, look at the vents on the front and rear side panels. I really like the look and intend on doing something very similar.

I also intend to subtley modify the front facia. I'm still on the fence about this one though. The front is very nice just the way it is.

Kevin
11-04-2011, 02:14 PM
a guy i used to know has the blue LM, my favorite body kit ever

Bob Eyres
11-04-2011, 04:36 PM
a guy i used to know has the blue LM, my favorite body kit ever

Oh yeah, that one is "The Holy Grail" to me:

http://www.sirgalahad.org/tyler/misc/LM_2.jpg

The script idea is cool and original, and the stock tailights too. Plus the added advantage of not having to answer that, "Izzit a Callaway??" question all the time. The key is placing and sizing the logo so that it looks like GM did it on an early show car or something.
But if you do it too well, you're going to have to answer another question all the time, "Where can I get one?" :-D

Kevin
11-04-2011, 04:41 PM
there's a twin turbo lm zr-1 speedster I remember seeing it's that pale purple that clints old car...I think it now belongs to 98pacecar, sorry I don't remember your SN, it was something else

Blue Flame Restorations
11-04-2011, 04:49 PM
Oh yeah, that one is "The Holy Grail" to me:

http://www.sirgalahad.org/tyler/misc/LM_2.jpg

The script idea is cool and original, and the stock tailights too. Plus the added advantage of not having to answer that, "Izzit a Callaway??" question all the time. The key is placing and sizing the logo so that it looks like GM did it on an early show car or something.
But if you do it too well, you're going to have to answer another question all the time, "Where can I get one?" :-D


Also thinking about a small ZR-1 script logo molded into each side of the lower panel at the front of each door. The only thing to think about is to NOT do too much.


I NEED A GOOD PHOTOSHOP PERSON FOR HELP WITH THE FRONT BUMPER DESIGN MODIFICATION. Anyone??????????????????

Kevin
11-04-2011, 04:53 PM
Also thinking about a small ZR-1 script logo molded into each side of the lower panel at the front of each door. The only thing to thinnk about is to NOT do too much.
you mean like the old 49th street stuff had on it?

Blue Flame Restorations
11-04-2011, 04:55 PM
you mean like the old 49th street stuff had on it?


Never seen one, but maybe??? It would be inset just like the one on the rear bumper but a lot smaller. Along the lines of what GM used to do on many of their cars. They did it on the early 90's Z24 cars.

Kevin
11-04-2011, 05:03 PM
Demp's dark red 95 has the 49th street rockers on it

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12636

Blue Flame Restorations
11-04-2011, 05:07 PM
It looks like there is just a recess for the LT5 emblem to mount inside of. What I plan is the Script logo inset as the design. His car is vey nice though.

Kevin
11-04-2011, 05:21 PM
It looks like there is just a recess for the LT5 emblem to mount inside of. What I plan is the Script logo inset as the design. His car is vey nice though.

What I was asking if you had the same basic idea planed, and it seems you do. I think it would look nice but generally be overlooked by most people.

Blue Flame Restorations
11-04-2011, 05:56 PM
What I was asking if you had the same basic idea planed, and it seems you do. I think it would look nice but generally be overlooked by most people.


Sorry Kevin. You're probably right. I like the subtle things that some people overlook but eventually say, "ah, ha", as long as it's not too busy. You can do too much. I just have a lot of thoughts right now and won't know exactly what I'm going to finalize until I'm thick into it.

Kevin
11-04-2011, 05:59 PM
the problem is the rockers are just so low on these cars that most people don't really see them unless they really get down to look. I like the idea quite a bit

Blue Flame Restorations
11-04-2011, 06:12 PM
the problem is the rockers are just so low on these cars that most people don't really see them unless they really get down to look. I like the idea quite a bit


I was thinking about placing the logo on the bottom front corner of the lower door piece. Not as low.

Paul Workman
11-05-2011, 07:36 AM
I was thinking about placing the logo on the bottom front corner of the lower door piece. Not as low.

Almost a coin toss, but after seeing Jim Mac's 49th Street rockers, which has the smaller ZR-1 logo recessed on the rocker, near the corner of the door panel, I reeeeeaaaaly like it (the script) there. At that spot, and coupled with the 2/3 or 3/4 size script, it doesn't cross the line (IMO) as being too much, but doesn't snatch your eye away from the rest of the car - at least not initially (takes a couple seconds before those rocker knock your eyes out!)

And, now that I think about it, I want to say his script had some blue in it (trying to remember zackly). It was either the lettering, or maybe the script was outlined, or maybe the background, but it really worked well. In any case, against the fabulous 92 red paint, it looks perfect (to me). (Every time I see his car, it stuns me; a frigging gorgeous car!

P.

Blue Flame Restorations
11-07-2011, 05:05 PM
Received the Callaway kit today. If I would have paid $9500 for a kit from them, I'd have to send it back. The quality of this unit is extremely poor. I really expected more from the Callaway brand.

It's a good thing I'm making molds for my modified pieces. No problem though. It'll be a good platform for a ZR-1 kit.

Kevin
11-07-2011, 05:08 PM
i'd heard that the kit required extensive work to make it fit properly

Blue Flame Restorations
11-07-2011, 05:11 PM
i'd heard that the kit required extensive work to make it fit properly

There's no way I could sleep at night if I charged someone $9500 for what I received. And yes, it's a real Callaway kit. Still has the Callaway tag on the backside.

LGAFF
11-07-2011, 05:25 PM
There's no way I could sleep at night if I charged someone $9500 for what I received. And yes, it's a real Callaway kit. Still has the Callaway tag on the backside.


Thats why Brett will only be charging $9499.99:cheers:

GOLDCYLON
11-07-2011, 05:33 PM
There's no way I could sleep at night if I charged someone $9500 for what I received. And yes, it's a real Callaway kit. Still has the Callaway tag on the backside.


Isnt the Callaway tag on all the parts Brett or just on the inside of the backside? ;)

Blue Flame Restorations
11-07-2011, 05:40 PM
I only unwrapped the front bumper. It was on the backside. I won't be unwrapping the rest of the parts until I begin widening them.

Before the Callaway Nazi's come out to play, I WON"T BE SELLING KITS!!!! I already had one Callaway diehard who forgot to take his meds accusing me of selling kits on the Callaway Forum.

GOLDCYLON
11-07-2011, 05:44 PM
Can you do a quick Test mate on a side panel I really want to know what the difference is in the sides. We all know the back end is larger. Are the sides really different


Are you a member of the Callaway Forum Brett?

Blue Flame Restorations
11-07-2011, 06:03 PM
Can you do a quick Test mate on a side panel I really want to know what the difference is in the sides. We all know the back end is larger. Are the sides really different


Are you a member of the Callaway Forum Brett?

I'll hold it up to my 90 and see how much shorter the door panel piece might be.

No longer a member of the Callaway Forum. SurfnDumb accused me of selling body kits and repro-ing the lenses. I unloaded on him for having no factual proof to backup his allegations and suddenly, my login was no longer working. All I could do is laugh. :dontknow:

GOLDCYLON
11-07-2011, 06:07 PM
I'll hold it up to my 90 and see how much shorter the door panel piece might be.

No longer a member of the Callaway Forum. SurfnDumb accused me of selling body kits and repro-ing the lenses. I unloaded on him for having no factual proof to backup his allegations and suddenly, my login was no longer working. All I could do is laugh. :dontknow:


Thanks i really want to know :handshak:

Blue Flame Restorations
11-07-2011, 06:20 PM
[QUOTE=GOLDCYLON;126677]Can you do a quick Test mate on a side panel I really want to know what the difference is in the sides. We all know the back end is larger. Are the sides really different


The side door panels are approx. 3/8" longer.I'll have to lengthen them to fit my car, along with the lower rocker panels and rear bumper.

I won't be using this kit in it's present form until I rebuild Dominic's old 92 anyway. I'll use it as a platform to build my own design kit for my 90.

Blue Flame Restorations
11-07-2011, 06:37 PM
Isnt the Callaway tag on all the parts Brett or just on the inside of the backside? ;)

There was only a Callaway tag on the front and rear bumper pieces. Serial number, date and other numbers.

FU
11-07-2011, 06:40 PM
Pic. of said backside please ? Or was that the backside of the front ?











Congrat's on scoring the kit !

GOLDCYLON
11-07-2011, 06:50 PM
[QUOTE=GOLDCYLON;126677]Can you do a quick Test mate on a side panel I really want to know what the difference is in the sides. We all know the back end is larger. Are the sides really different


The side door panels are approx. 3/8" longer.I'll have to lengthen them to fit my car, along with the lower rocker panels and rear bumper.

I won't be using this kit in it's present form until I rebuild Dominic's old 92 anyway. I'll use it as a platform to build my own design kit for my 90.

only 3/8th of an inch longer? That should be pretty simple

GOLDCYLON
11-07-2011, 06:51 PM
Pic. of said backside please ? Or was that the backside of the front ?

Yes, Backside of Front side (Bumper) and inside of backside of the rear (Fiascia)

Blue Flame Restorations
11-08-2011, 12:24 AM
Found this picture on the net. Very close type of fender louvers that I had designed for my kit. Love 'em. The color is even perfect. I'll probably go with Jetstream Blue or the 88 blue.

http://i44.tinypic.com/23ixwg2.jpg

The LM nose on the C4 doesn't match the rest of the car, IMO. It looks great on the round curves of the C5 and C6 though. Beautiful. Thanks for the photoshop, Paul.


Toledo Pro 2" rise hood with front emblem recess.
Stock tail lamps and center exhaust.
GenII Dymags in bright silver or polished CCW Classics.

That should do it as of now.

RICKYRJ1
11-08-2011, 08:50 AM
I like the 2'' high rise hood idea w/recessed logo also the center exhaust is always sweet IMHO. I always wanted to do a center exhaust on my car.
The front nose looks good as well but I would have to eliminate the black center strip and paint it the body color. It would make the kit look as one and not something that was added on. Good Luck with the project :cheers:

Blue Flame Restorations
11-08-2011, 09:58 AM
I like the 2'' high rise hood idea w/recessed logo also the center exhaust is always sweet IMHO. I always wanted to do a center exhaust on my car.
The front nose looks good as well but I would have to eliminate the black center strip and paint it the body color. It would make the kit look as one and not something that was added on. Good Luck with the project :cheers:


Thanks, Ricky. I agree 100%. All of the beltline will be painted.

GOLDCYLON
11-08-2011, 10:17 AM
Agree paint match the belt line. Dennis did as well on the Atomic Z

Blue Flame Restorations
11-08-2011, 10:36 AM
Maybe I can get Paul to photoshop the rub strip red when he has time?

USAFPILOT
11-08-2011, 11:27 AM
That blue LM Callaway is perfect.

Blue Flame Restorations
12-15-2011, 07:36 PM
I've been doing a lot of thinking about this Callaway thing. I've decided to NOT use any of the Callaway treatments on my 90.

I'm still making wide body molds just for a rainy day. I may use them on Dom's old 92 when I build it.

As soon as I get this 53 painted, I'm going to begin doing my own design front bumper. I think I have it all figured out.

Blue Flame Restorations
12-15-2011, 08:54 PM
Awwwww, screw it! I just can't stand it any longer. I'm going to make some molds from a stock 91 front bumper cover and another undisclosed front bumper cover and blend them together.

I have about three different ideas and will build at least two of them just to see which one I like best.

I'll post pics when I get it roughed in and primered.

Kevin
12-15-2011, 09:59 PM
the callaway lm is one of the best kits i've ever seen in my life. i have a friend with a lt1 car in dark porsche metallic blue. just great looking

Blue Flame Restorations
12-15-2011, 10:11 PM
I like the LM also. I like it better on a C5 though. The round front end seems a little out of place with the flat lines of the C4, IMO.

I plan to use similar side vents on my 90 but they'll be "swept" a little. Not so 90 degree-ish.

cvette98pacecar
12-16-2011, 12:07 AM
I like the LM also. I like it better on a C5 though. The round front end seems a little out of place with the flat lines of the C4, IMO.

I plan to use similar side vents on my 90 but they'll be "swapt" a little. Not so 90 degree-ish.

The LM looks great I dont know why Callaway does not offer that kit.

Blue Flame Restorations
12-16-2011, 12:53 AM
The LM looks great I dont know why Callaway does not offer that kit.

Even if they offered it, if there were no drivetrain enhancements performed by Callaway, there are those who would only be negative toward your car. Childish but true.

Kevin
12-16-2011, 12:56 AM
Even if they offered it, if there were no drivetrain enhancements performed by Callaway, there are those who would only be negative toward your car. Childish but true.

my friends has a 383 cube lt1 under the hood
"big john" has a TT LT5 powered Lm

Bob Eyres
12-16-2011, 09:37 AM
I like the LM also. I like it better on a C5 though. The round front end seems a little out of place with the flat lines of the C4, IMO.

True, but it's got to be one of the all time best looking front ends ever on a Corvette, my favorite. It's definitely "Retro", with elements of european 1960's design from the E-Type Jag and various Ferraris. In fact, Enzo Ferrari called the E-Type Jag, "The most beautiful car ever made". So Paul Deutchman's Callaway design was gorgeous, but derivative too.
Are you thinking about using those two main elements, the covered headlights and the grill opening in your design?

LM looks deeelicious to me: http://zr1.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1545&stc=1&d=1324045762