Avic install

[Rex Ruby]

Not a ZR1 install but all C4's are the same inside!
I was thinking about upgrading the stereo in my 1993 but I’m a complete novice when it comes to audio. As I did my research and ultimately the installation I took the following pictures and write up to document the process. Hope it helps someone! I had put up a post or two asking some audio questions, did a fair amount of reading and called on some members the vette community that I knew had audio knowledge. This research got me to a basic understanding of what I wanted to accomplish. In putting my questions out there a forum member offered me an Avic D3 for free. Thanks TIM!

So I have a nice head unit, I decided to do 6X9 3 way speakers up front and 2 8” subs in the back. From looking at pictures of other C4 installations using 5.5” speakers, researching measurements of some 6X9s and taking apart the front speaker area to take measurements I felt I could make that work. Also my thoughts were the 3 way would give me mid and tweeter. I used the Rockford Forsgate RF R1693. Others had done 8” subs but I still checked the rear areas to make the 8” JBL GTO804 subs fit. I came across a free Alpine MRV100M for the subs. I used a Rockford Forsgate Prime R 150-2 to power the 6X9s.

Here’s the start, always disconnect the battery!
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Original console area, I had an XM set up and a 12 disc CD changers both connected via FM modulators.
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Original right side front Bose speaker.
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Original left side front Bose speaker.
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Original Bose right side rear speaker.
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Original Bose left side rear speaker and 12 disc changer.
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[Rex Ruby]

Console bezel removed.
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Bose head unit removed.
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First fitment of the Avic. Sits too far out, some of the internal plastic needs to be removed.
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The piece that needs to be removed.
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Piece of plastic is removed, I used a drill to drill holes along the edges. Be careful there are a lot of wires around that area!
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[Rex Ruby]

Test fit with the bezel looks like it was made to fit! Now the trick is to mount the unit in the dash and have it line up this good!
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I have it mocked in and mounted in the dash and the bezel lines up perfect! But I have no wires behind there yet. I wanted to make sure it would at least fit before doing all the wiring.
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Rear Bose w/o the grille.
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Body cavity the subs will sit in.
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First mock up of the rear subs, I cut some ?? MDF to test the subs fit. The bottom of the sub was touching the car body so this mock up will need some more work.
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[Rex Ruby]

http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/48863/2205574310034327257S600x600Q85.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2205574310034327257AixzmG)

Stock Bose cover over the mocked up sub. I?m trying to make this work as I?d like the rears to look stock.
http://inlinethumb55.webshots.com/47030/2012562470034327257S600x600Q85.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2012562470034327257DnLBFO)

Adding a layer of ?? MDF on the top changes the mounting angle enough to keep the sub bottom off of the body.
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[Rex Ruby]

Sub cavity done up with sound deadener.
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Left ready for sub install.
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Left sub installed.
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Right sub installed.
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You can see on the left side (right in pic) how I angled the MDF to change the sub?s mount angle a litte. Also you can see the 2 MDF strips in the back wall to mount the amp board. I glued these to the rear wall with PL polyurethane adhesive.
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Bare Bose in the front.
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[Rex Ruby]

Wire connections on the 6X9s.
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I wanted to mount the 6X9s so the stock Bose grille would cover. When I mocked that up the 6X9 was sitting too far in and the magnet was sticking to the metal frame rail at the mounting location. I had to move the 6X9 out far enough so it was not too close to the metal frame rail. I was able to set this up so nothing was cut up too much and it could be returned to stock easily. Here is what I came up with using ?? MDF and piece for the each side. They only stick out an extra 1/2" from stock.
http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/45864/2794412340034327257S600x600Q85.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2794412340034327257moasgB)

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I covered the outer MDF with a black fabric which matches the black grille that came with the 6x9s.
http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/48680/2042765460034327257S600x600Q85.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2042765460034327257WsdZuy)

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[Rex Ruby]

Now that the speakers are installed and the head unit mocked in it?s time to rum some wiring. I removed the drivers seat.
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Nice surprise here, some interior screws and bolts under the carper that must have been left there at Bowling Green!
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Here?s the power line run in the rear. I ran a ground all the way to the battery.
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[Rex Ruby]

Power line up the frame rail.
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Power line out the door post to the battery.
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I bought a Metra kit to tap the power, ground, antenna output and antenna signal at the storage bin behind the pass seat.
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Running the speaker wires, RCA wires to the rear.
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As you saw previously I ran the 4 guage power wire up the left side of the car and all other wires ran down the right side frame rail into the back. Note: the front left speaker runs down the left side but I kept it way from the power wire as much as possible.
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Kind of hard to tell here but the head unit is secure. I used strapping and bent pieces 90 degrees connecting in side to the head unit and the other side to the stock mounting holes.
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[Rex Ruby]

Start wiring the amps.
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Almost done wiring the amps.
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Amps wired.
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One of the connections for this unit was to the reverse lights. Using the manual I thought I had it located where it comes inside the car along the rear. I was thinking it was this light green wire but I was wrong!
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It came up over here on the side.
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[Rex Ruby]

Finished shots.
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[Rex Ruby]

Note how much better the carpet looks in the final pics. When I had it out of the car since it had a rubber backing I sprayed them down with spray9 cleaner and a little water. Scrubbed with a scrub brush and rinsed it out with the hose and hung them up to dry.
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In the end it was all well worth it. I figure I have about 60 hours into this project. I paid about $350.00 for the amps and speakers and about another $300.00 for 12 gauge speaker wire, 4 gauge power wire, RCA wires, fuse holders, wire connectors, sound deadener, MDF and misc. things. The sound it great, major improvement over stock. The nav is cool. I also have the blue tooth add on which works great too. The system also has an ipod hook up. I will probably add XM soon, I?ll have to remove the head unit to run a data wire so at that time I?ll also do the parking brake hack.

[93RubyZ]

Wow!! Very nice! Thanks for sharing your work. :cheers:

[Scrrem]

Wow, great job and nice write-up!! Hope to do that on mine one of these days.
Rich

[FU]

Way to go John , very nice post. Pic's etc. :cheers: I'm with Rich.....one of these day's I'd love to get a good AVIC in my car.

[tomtom72]

That is so sweeeet John!

Awesome install and instructions, thanks for taking the time to share the skinny with us!

:cheers:
Tom

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Wow, you did a great job!!!! Thanks for sharing this and taking the time to document; I know how much work that takes. :cheers:

[DaveK]

Great write-up of a cool project. Thanks for taking the time to share. :cheers:

[secondchance]

Looks great!
I hope to see this in person. Any plan to visit WAZOO HQ?

[Paul in VA]

Great Job! Exactly what I want to do. Did you/are you thinking about hooking up a reverse camera?

[ScottZ95ZR1]

Excellent post, John. I'm a huge fan of this upgrade, too, and really appreciate the time you took to document and photo your install for us. :thumbsup:

[QB93Z]

Very nice John. Thanks for taking the time to document your work and post it here.

Jim

[FU]

Should put this in the archives also.

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Should put this in the archives also.

Paging Cliff (Dynomite)!!! Where are you Mr. Solutions?

[GOLDCYLON]

Note to this post if you upgrade to the Z1-Z3 series also from Pioneer light sanding IS required on lower portion of the radio surround. The Z1-Z3 series is already 4-5 years old. The D1-D3 series about 6 years old.

AVIC411.COM is a wealth of information on these radio installs as well.

When you move to Sirius/XM suggest installing an Antenna cut off switch so you can keep the antenna powered down. I did a post on this mod. I have the exact same rears how did you get those factory grills over them RF grills? Or is the subs now riding where the rear speakers are?

[HAWAIIZR-1]

I sent this PM to Rex Ruby six hours ago :sign10:

"Great job and nice documentation with photos....Everyone likes photos :thumbsup:

In Solutions (4th page) under Heading BOSE SYSTEM :handshak:

Cliff"

I should have known you would be all over this, you lurker. Thanks for your contributions with the solutions.

[FU]

Thanks for your contributions with the solutions.

:cheers: I'll second that Cliff !

[Rex Ruby]

Looks great!
I hope to see this in person. Any plan to visit WAZOO HQ?

Sometime this summer I'll get to the HQ!

Great Job! Exactly what I want to do. Did you/are you thinking about hooking up a reverse camera?

Thought about it but probably will never add one.

Note to this post if you upgrade to the Z1-Z3 series also from Pioneer light sanding IS required on lower portion of the radio surround. The Z1-Z3 series is already 4-5 years old. The D1-D3 series about 6 years old.

AVIC411.COM is a wealth of information on these radio installs as well.

When you move to Sirius/XM suggest installing an Antenna cut off switch so you can keep the antenna powered down. I did a post on this mod. I have the exact same rears how did you get those factory grills over them RF grills? Or is the subs now riding where the rear speakers are?

So are you telling me the FM antenna stays up in XM mode?
If so I already had an antenna switch installed, didn't like having it up while listening to the XM through a cassette.
Rear factory speaker grilles are just screwed down to the MDF covering the subs, factory grilles were the only ones used.

I sent this PM to Rex Ruby six hours ago :sign10:

"Great job and nice documentation with photos....Everyone likes photos :thumbsup:

In Solutions (4th page) under Heading BOSE SYSTEM :handshak:

Cliff" :thumbsup:

Glad you all enjoyed this and hope it helps!
Feel free to contact me with any questions if you do this mod:cheers: