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limey
04-28-2011, 01:51 AM
So, GM have all weatherstrips discontinued now, who is the best place to buy aftermarket seals and such. I know ebay has them a dime a dozen, but looking for top grade stuff.

carter200
04-28-2011, 02:23 AM
Kurt,
Maybe talk to Year One. They do alot of resto stuff and would be a good start. Good luck.;)

95ZR1
04-28-2011, 11:11 AM
I've been searching a number of sites on the web. They list the parts, but not having placed an order yet, I can't be sure if they really have it in stock. I am just price checking at this point, and prices are all over the map. I also noticed that when I search the part number, IE 10268887 for the windshield piece, they always ask which GM model car you have. I wonder if all the GM makes use the same part number, or why else would they ask if the part was for a Chevy or a Buick or a Cadillac, etc. I also wonder if this is why I got the wrong part from you Limey?

limey
04-28-2011, 12:04 PM
Ok, being doing all kinds of digging around and such, seems ecklers - Corvette Central - MAD and ebay sellers for the most part all sell the same China seals. There is a co. called Corevtte-rubber.com that sell and manufacture their own. I'm going to order some up and check out the quality and fitment, hopefully they are as good if not better than the GM ones, which are excellent quality, just not available anymore.

Carl, you want me to send you one of these if they are good quality?

95ZR1
04-28-2011, 04:40 PM
Carl, you want me to send you one of these if they are good quality?



Kurt, I'm going to the Bahamas for a few weeks. Let me call you when I get back around the end of May and talk about what you think of the product by then. I may want the windshield, halo, and hatch pieces, depending on the prices.

I am still checking around, just to see who CLAIMS they have some of this left. Places like this: http://www.newgmparts.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=213815

Carl

limey
04-28-2011, 05:37 PM
I'll get a set on the way and give opinions and such.

3 Weeks in the Bahamas sure sounds nice.

bldavis11
04-28-2011, 10:50 PM
I've had good luck with the Wilcox stuff.

PhillipsLT5
04-29-2011, 06:23 PM
I had some Corvette Rubber parts on my 92, Cadillac MI, it was OK

Scrrem
05-02-2011, 02:39 PM
I got a rear hatch seal from Lone Star Car Parts off Ebay, seems to be good quality, don't know about other seals.
Rich

-=Jeff=-
05-02-2011, 03:10 PM
I got a rear hatch seal from Lone Star Car Parts off Ebay, seems to be good quality, don't know about other seals.
Rich
I have the lonestar hatch piece and had the A and B pillars, they were too hard IMHO

I have Melrose pieces now and I am fairly happy with them now that I have the windows adjusted

secondchance
05-04-2011, 01:28 PM
Limey,

I just ordered a factory A pillar weatherstrip, after seeing your post, through a local dealer in N. VA. It has arrived today. So, there still may be some factory pieces available.

My experience, and I had bough non factory piece before, A pillar, B pillar (halo) and targa sides should be factory piece. After market pieces first look like s**t, too hard and not slipery enough resulting in windows binding and not closing fully despite all sorts of adjustment.

As for the hatch, inside doors and around front wheel well, non-factory, as long as they look decent, should be fine. I am using non-factory hatch and door pieces and have no complaint.

If you need to check for factory piece availability call Dave at Koon Chevrolet Parts - 703 356 0400. Dave is an owner of 90 Z and very familiar w/ our Zs.

Scrrem
05-04-2011, 01:48 PM
Limey,

I just ordered a factory A pillar weatherstrip, after seeing your post, through a local dealer in N. VA. It has arrived today. So, there still may be some factory pieces available.

My experience, and I had bough non factory piece before, A pillar, B pillar (halo) and targa sides should be factory piece. After market pieces first look like s**t, too hard and not slipery enough resulting in windows binding and not closing fully despite all sorts of adjustment.

As for the hatch, inside doors and around front wheel well, non-factory, as long as they look decent, should be fine. I am using non-factory hatch and door pieces and have no complaint.

If you need to check for factory piece availability call Dave at Koon Chevrolet Parts - 703 356 0400. Dave is an owner of 90 Z and very familiar w/ our Zs.

Yun,
I would have to agree, hatch is fine with non-OEM, but anything else OEM may be the way to go. I just had my windshield replaced last week and shop used non-OEM A-pillar gasket and it took some ajustment to get it to seal properly with the side windows. Will try to find an OEM A-pillar and may have it changed.
Rich

ksphar
05-04-2011, 03:54 PM
Latex is also available out there now, which is what the original weatherstrip pieces were made of. It had disappeared for a while due to it not being able to be manufactured in most countries. It is available again now though.

I just ordered a set in where i work (PM me for details, as we are not currently a supporting vendor, but might be soon). I can tell you it is much softer than the Corvette Rubber pieces. I have not tried it on a car yet, but may be installing it on my 92 fairly soon. I will let you guys know how it goes. Corvette Rubber is a great product. This just appears to be softer like the original.

Kevin

ZZZZZR1
05-04-2011, 04:23 PM
Latex is also available out there now, which is what the original weatherstrip pieces were made of. It had disappeared for a while due to it not being able to be manufactured in most countries. It is available again now though.

I just ordered a set in where i work (PM me for details, as we are not currently a supporting vendor, but might be soon). I can tell you it is much softer than the Corvette Rubber pieces. I have not tried it on a car yet, but may be installing it on my 92 fairly soon. I will let you guys know how it goes. Corvette Rubber is a great product. This just appears to be softer like the original.

Kevin

Kevin,

You don't have to be a supporting vendor... Please post up a link and prices you have.

Love to hear about it for myself!

Sending you a PM

Thanks!

David

ksphar
05-04-2011, 06:05 PM
Kevin,

You don't have to be a supporting vendor... Please post up a link and prices you have.

Love to hear about it for myself!

Sending you a PM

Thanks!

David

I just talked with David and I will be bringing some of this Latex style rubber to the Gathering in BG next week. I will bring a some of the Corvette Rubber pieces along so people can compare them.

I will also bring along a few other projects we just completed for you to look at. I will have a reproduction of the 91-96 center console door, some samples of the 84-90 body moldings, and whatever else I can dig up.

I will have links and pricing up here shortly for the weatherstripping. You can always call me at 800-757-5336 as well.

Thanks!

tomtom72
05-05-2011, 12:44 PM
Hey kevin, thanks for posting up about your products and thanks for bringing some samples to BG for us to see!:thumbsup:

:cheers:
Tom

FU
05-05-2011, 01:19 PM
Bring it on Kevin. We like.

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Speaking on BG. I could use a weather strip that is on the removable top , drivers side. Where the D/S window meet's the top. My stock one is a little short....

[-X don't go there boy's !

GOLDCYLON
05-05-2011, 01:19 PM
My only advice on Weatherstripping on the ZR-1 C4 is the following.

1. Never buy the GM rear hatch replacement. Go with the Wilcox type that has reinforced corners. The original hatch strip is designed to fail at the corners. Just a fact of life by design.

2. The GM NOS stuff is not the greatest thing since sliced bread. Its getting rather old. It may fit great but unless its seal wrapped dont buy it. I replaced my A pillar with NOS strips that was GM boxed but not GM Wrapped sealed (Blue paper). End result less than 4 months later it looked worse than the strips I replaced. End result $175 pissed away. The Side weatherstripping for the Targa were both sealed in the clear white GM sleeves and no problem since. The OEM strips will just dry out as well if not sealed. Remember that NOS strip your just bought might be from 1984!!!! And almost dust.

3. Always use Dyelectric grease after install to protect your seal. Yeah it will pickup a little grit for a little while but it is very important. MADVET.COM sell this by the tube for an ungodly amount. However its just dyelectric grease which you can pickup fairly cheap at the local autoparts store.

4. The 4 Pack of weather stripping tools that Madvet.com sells are very useful. They make the job easier and save time. You can use other tools but this is just my recomendation.

5. The 3m Weatherstrip adhesive and Remover are just required. Buy them

6. Your time spent in making sure your channel is clean and free of old sealer, Rubber and weatherstripping glue (I call it monkey snot) will pay off in the reinstall

7. Finally if doing the rear hatch for the first time. Have a large supply of paper towels and old T-shirts/cotton rags to clean out the weather stripping channel with the yellowish/white grease the factory used. A trash can right next to the rear of the car to dispose of the stuff as rapidly as possible is always advised.

Scrrem
05-05-2011, 01:39 PM
Good info!! Thanks Daryl!!
Rich

GOLDCYLON
05-05-2011, 01:44 PM
Good info!! Thanks Daryl!!
Rich


;) Glad to help Rich. GC

FU
05-05-2011, 02:26 PM
Novagard G624 Dielectric Silicone Compound, Mil-S-8660C, 5.3 oz Tube 12.46 plus shipping. Get 3 tubes and free shipping. Can't beat that deal.

http://www.amazon.com/Novagard-Dielectric-Silicone-Compound-Mil-S-8660C/dp/B001BNZWNU

GOLDCYLON
05-05-2011, 02:32 PM
Novagard G624 Dielectric Silicone Compound, Mil-S-8660C, 5.3 oz Tube 12.46 plus shipping. Get 3 tubes and free shipping. Can't beat that deal.

http://www.amazon.com/Novagard-Dielectric-Silicone-Compound-Mil-S-8660C/dp/B001BNZWNU


Concur great price

Z51JEFF
05-05-2011, 11:50 PM
My price on OEM is $335 for the front and $225 for the hatch.Dont need it now but better get it while I can.Nothing ever comes close to matching OEM quality.

GOLDCYLON
05-06-2011, 12:03 AM
My price on OEM is $335 for the front and $225 for the hatch.Dont need it now but better get it while I can.Nothing ever comes close to matching OEM quality.


Jeff read post 18... ;)

secondchance
05-06-2011, 08:43 AM
I just picked up factory A pillar weather strip from a local dealer yesterday. It cost me $346 and came in a sealed metallic foil - real nice! When I picked up B pillar about 6 months ago from the same dealership, that came in a same kind of wrapping.
replacing B pillar took care of windows binding.

Z51JEFF
05-06-2011, 12:39 PM
Jeff read post 18... ;)

I bought the rear hatch piece a few years ago from G.M. and the corners were reinforced with a metal support or something.

DaveK
06-03-2011, 10:43 AM
I just talked with David and I will be bringing some of this Latex style rubber to the Gathering in BG next week. I will bring a some of the Corvette Rubber pieces along so people can compare them.

I will also bring along a few other projects we just completed for you to look at. I will have a reproduction of the 91-96 center console door, some samples of the 84-90 body moldings, and whatever else I can dig up.

I will have links and pricing up here shortly for the weatherstripping. You can always call me at 800-757-5336 as well.

Thanks!

Did this make it to BG? Can anyone provide any info as to how it compares to the factory WS?

Thanks

Dave

ZZZZZR1
06-03-2011, 03:44 PM
Did this make it to BG? Can anyone provide any info as to how it compares to the factory WS?

Thanks

Dave

Dave

Weather strip "feels" like oem and not cheap like typical reproductions

Many members checked it out and were very satisfied

:cheers:

David

Z51JEFF
06-03-2011, 05:03 PM
Jeff read post 18... ;)

I just picked up the rear hatch OEM and it is reinforced at the corners.

-=Jeff=-
07-07-2011, 10:24 AM
Dave

Weather strip "feels" like oem and not cheap like typical reproductions

Many members checked it out and were very satisfied

:cheers:

David

So any info on the part # and pricing for it?

I would like to try it out

tomtom72
07-08-2011, 06:51 AM
http://keenparts.com/


I just bought the roof side strips and the halo piece. I would say that they are very close to the OEM stuff that I bought in both visual & feel.

Tom

ZZZZZR1
07-08-2011, 07:42 AM
http://keenparts.com/


I just bought the roof side strips and the halo piece. I would say that they are very close to the OEM stuff that I bought in both visual & feel.

Tom

Tom,

Please post up after the install. I know of a few that did install them, but love to hear what you think.

:cheers:

David

-=Jeff=-
07-08-2011, 08:55 AM
http://keenparts.com/


I just bought the roof side strips and the halo piece. I would say that they are very close to the OEM stuff that I bought in both visual & feel.

Tom

Tom,

I was on that website.. do you have the Pn you got so I can be sure i am getting the correct latex (softer) weatherstripping?

Saw some Latex weatherstripping on eBay for $180, I think Keen is $150 (A pillar)

-=Jeff=-
07-08-2011, 09:40 AM
this PN look right?

Part Number:460172

I send Kevin @ keen an email yesterday with no response yet