LT5 into GTO project

[todesengel]

It officially begins tomorrow. I pulled it out of storage today for one last spin before it goes under the plasma cutter/welder/transformation.

pulling out of storage;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/IMG_0085.jpg

Front;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/5photo.jpg

side;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/2photo.jpg

Interior1;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/6photo.jpg

interior 2;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/photo-3.jpg

LT5;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/1photo.jpg

[todesengel]

Nos trans from Corey (THANKS!);

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/4photo.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/8photo.jpg

Assorted haltech pieces;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/DSC_0005-1.jpg

Supra Independent (3:13) rear;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/IMG_1447.jpg

[Kevin]

i like where this is heading

[todesengel]

i like where this is heading

not me. A torn apart car, no time to finish it, and a half butted project for sale on ebay in a year :mrgreen:

[FU]

Nice GTO :cheers: Get rid of that boat anchor and put a LS engine in there :mrgreen:

[ZR1@gmx.com]

Looking good! I can not wait to see the play by play photos! (nice looking engine!)

[todesengel]

Hey Frank, I was going to get rid of the boat anchor, but that would mean the old goat would have to go. She underwent a frame off about 8 years ago, but I am thinking about replacing the saab midnight blue with quicksilver, and racing stripes. The wheels will be gone, and ccw's will take their place.

Zrmax, I will post everything up stage by stage as it happens. It may take a bit longer because of my schedule, but I am still shooting to make a bg appearance in her this year!

[HIZNHRZ]

Great car. Brings back some fond memories. Looking forward to seeing the "heart of the new beast" running strong. Best of luck with your project.

[todesengel]

Only got about an hour into it today. Keith came by to visit, and I didn't bring my sawzall.

Front end is disassembled, motor mounts undone, trans undone, driveshaft out, radiator disconnected, wiring undone, exhaust dropped.

on the lift

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/111photo.jpg

Minus hood, good go that thing is heavy/awkward for one person;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/ph1oto.jpg

losing some front end pieces;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/11photo.jpg

front end gone;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/p1hoto.jpg

[todesengel]

Great car. Brings back some fond memories. Looking forward to seeing the "heart of the new beast" running strong. Best of luck with your project.

Thank you, I have a serious love fest with this car. My wife absolutely, positively cannot stand it. She thinks it is the ugliest thing ever made. I have no idea why I like it so much, but it is the one classic car I have that I drive whenever possible. Once the transformation is complete this is going to be my coast to coast car again, replacing what the zr-1 was for me last year.

[todesengel]

Looks like the brakes will now be taken care of as well. Move it is going to put together a kit for me, and send the dimensions to ccw once it is designed to ensure there is no fitment issue. Sounds like a great company to me :thumbsup:

[RICKYRJ1]

Glad to finally see someone use their stimulus money for something really cool. :cheers:

[todesengel]

Glad to finally see someone use their stimulus money for something really cool. :cheers:

lol, you have it backwards. I'm one of the people they took stimulus money away from lol:salute:

[GrayZ]

Pic's don't do the color of the goat justice, or did he take pics of his
monster lookin, bad azzed supra.

i did see some wheels there in his shop....and everyone knows
if he didn't pick em out, they all suck

LOL

[FU]

Air car too :cheers:

[todesengel]

Pic's don't do the color of the goat justice, or did he take pics of his
monster lookin, bad azzed supra.

i did see some wheels there in his shop....and everyone knows
if he didn't pick em out, they all suck

LOL

I told you to take those wheels, they are just going to sit there and accumulate dust. It's sad to see ccw's just sit in the corner like you did all through school.

Which supra, the pink rhd one? lol

[todesengel]

Air car too :cheers:

:icon_scra

sorry, I know what you mean now. Sorry, my head is still in work.

I am going to ditch that and go with an electronic vintage air system and smooth the firewall.

[GrayZ]

I like pink, just not on my car, high heels, different story,
when we horse trade for the TDI i expect those wheels to be in the trunk.
I like the wingless Supra, awesome stance.
Reminds me of me, in my track days....:hello:

[todesengel]

Reminds me of me, in my track days....:hello:

wide, low and round?

[todesengel]

when we horse trade for the TDI i expect those wheels to be in the trunk.

Those wheels wont fit in the trunk lol

[todesengel]

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[todesengel]

I am replacing the monster power booster with a 8" one to create more room. once I decided what I am going to do with the cross-member I am going to cut the tunnel out, and start fabricating a new one for the car using the piece I got from xfire as a starting point. I have come up with a couple really different plans for pipe routing, and custom pieces on this build once it begins to progress. I'm pretty excited about this one!


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/IMG_0091.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/IMG_0092.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/IMG_0093.jpg

[XfireZ51]

F*ing awesome.



I am replacing the monster power booster with a 8" one to create more room. once I decided what I am going to do with the cross-member I am going to cut the tunnel out, and start fabricating a new one for the car using the piece I got from xfire as a starting point. I have come up with a couple really different plans for pipe routing, and custom pieces on this build once it begins to progress. I'm pretty excited about this one!


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/IMG_0091.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/IMG_0092.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/IMG_0093.jpg

[ZR1@gmx.com]

Looking good! Looks like a labor of love.

[HIZNHRZ]

Very cool.

[GrayZ]

cool Rob, if you need any help tugging on parts let me know i will tear myself away from the puppies.

you gonna twin turbo that Lt 5 ??

[todesengel]

No photos today. I went to the shop but I spent more time on the phone than wrenching :blahblah::blahblah:

I ground the sbc mounts off the subframe, I am just going to start fresh.

I removed the pan from the engine, to modify it. The gods must have been smiling on me because I found a bunch more sections of broken rollers in the pickup. This cause me to start pulling the bearings, I am going to mic them all and check for wear :censored:. I decided to modify the pan instead of the cross member. I really want to drive the wheels off of this car, and would rather leave the support and strength in it that has already survived 40 years.

I marked out how much I need to cut from the tunnel, and it is a whopper for sure. It is amazing how bif this engine is when you put it next to a regular 350 sbc.

I removed the power booster and steering rod. I need to go with a link system for the rod as the way it sits now will interfere with the head.

SW headers will not work as is. I am either going to cut and box the subframe, or just modify the headers to work. I most likely will modify the headers as it is the lesser of two evils, imho.

Tomorrow I plan to cut the tunnel out, and make myself a template out of light gauge aluminum.

One of the local shops here offered to sell me an entire c5 dash, center console, hvac system, wiring harness, basically everything I want out of the vete interior for 1,000. I am now considering installing this in the gto, but am torn as I kind of like the old school styling compare with todays plastics.

[todesengel]

Looking good! Looks like a labor of love.

labor of stupidity is more like it. If I would have done a lsx I'd be done already :D

[FU]

Refer back to post 5.




http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids-28/

[todesengel]

yeah, but that is for a narrow lil lsx engine, and small t-56 trans. Not much of it pertains to what I am doing. The lsx is done to death. The lt5 is more to my liking, and it will be a one of a kind. I don't need a flashy car, but I like for them to be different from the pack :handshak:Refer back to post 5.




http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids-28/

[HIZNHRZ]

The lt5 is more to my liking, and it will be a one of a kind. I don't need a flashy car, but I like for them to be different from the pack

Hate to tell you but you're going to end up with both. With a nice set of wheels and tires (ideally refinished OE deep dish 5 spoke Pontiac wheels on the back and the standard OE 5 spokes on the front with new beauty rims and lugs) and the Midnight Blue paint with the White interior it is already screaming "look at me". When pretty much anyone hears that LT-5 coming, they're going to look around and see's that painted bumper and hood scopes, and they're gonna think "30 year old muscle car" and their reaction is going to be "WTF does he have in that thing".

Face it, you're screwed. It's a one of a kind, different from anything anyone else has built or seen, and flashy.

[todesengel]

Hate to tell you but you're going to end up with both. With a nice set of wheels and tires (ideally refinished OE deep dish 5 spoke Pontiac wheels on the back and the standard OE 5 spokes on the front with new beauty rims and lugs) and the Midnight Blue paint with the White interior it is already screaming "look at me". When pretty much anyone hears that LT-5 coming, they're going to look around and see's that painted bumper and hood scopes, and they're gonna think "30 year old muscle car" and their reaction is going to be "WTF does he have in that thing".

Face it, you're screwed. It's a one of a kind, different from anything anyone else has built or seen, and flashy.

That's awesome. Thank you for the reply. The fact that someone besides myself thinks this is a cool project makes me feel better about the work.

Just picked up a siamesed/ported plenum, tb and ih's from scholtmj for this thing :cheers:

[HIZNHRZ]

Are you kidding? This is a very cool project!

And by the way, I didn't remember what wheels you currently had on the car. I didn't mean to imply there was anything wrong with them. They look nice.

[ZR1@gmx.com]

That's awesome. Thank you for the reply. The fact that someone besides myself thinks this is a cool project makes me feel better about the work.

Just picked up a siamesed/ported plenum, tb and ih's from scholtmj for this thing :cheers:
Very cool! Want to see pics of that! I may have to make a trip to O Fallon to see this in person!

[todesengel]

And by the way, I didn't remember what wheels you currently had on the car. I didn't mean to imply there was anything wrong with them. They look nice.

Thanks for the kind words. Everyone has different tastes, and I certainly do not take offense to anyone who does not like the current wheels. i was looking at putting ccw lm20's on it, but your post has me thinking...

Very cool! Want to see pics of that! I may have to make a trip to O Fallon to see this in person!

You may want to call first, I am on the road a lot! Thanks for the reply :cheers:

[RICKYRJ1]

That's awesome. Thank you for the reply. The fact that someone besides myself thinks this is a cool project makes me feel better about the work.

Just picked up a siamesed/ported plenum, tb and ih's from scholtmj for this thing :cheers:

I had those items on my watch list. I thought they were priced for a quick sale but not that quick. Glad to see they are going to a bad *** project

[todesengel]

Thanks Rick, I had those items on my watch list. I thought they were priced for a quick sale but not that quick. Glad to see they are going to a bad *** project

[LT5-1935]

Nos trans from Corey (THANKS!);

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/4photo.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/8photo.jpg

Assorted haltech pieces;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/DSC_0005-1.jpg

Supra Independent (3:13) rear;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/IMG_1447.jpg
Very Nice project who did your harness and computer??
I am putting a LT5 in a 1935 Chevrolet w/ a automatic (do not have room for the 6 speed)

[todesengel]

Very Nice project who did your harness and computer??
I am putting a LT5 in a 1935 Chevrolet w/ a automatic (do not have room for the 6 speed)

I'm building my own harness, and standalone ecu.

Sounds like a neat project. The tunnel on my gto was too small for the 6-speed (zf or t-56), but I am cutting it and making a new tunnel. The t-56 is an option for you as far as manuals go, if you have your mind set on it, as it is considerably smaller than the zf.

I'll try to help you the best I can with any questions, feel free to pm me.

[todesengel]

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[LGAFF]

I wondered who the hell bought those.......nice!

[todesengel]

I wondered who the hell bought those.......nice!

yeah, for 1800 bucks I figured I couldn't go wrong. All this stuff is going to provide everyone a wealth of data.

[LGAFF]

Don't say that! I went back last night was going to make an offer, Gone..... that is a great price!

[todesengel]

Don't say that! I went back last night was going to make an offer, Gone..... that is a great price!

yeah, the guy was honest though. He basically told me that anything over 1200 would have grabbed them. I was quite happy with what I paid, and think they will work great when I go TT

[todesengel]

Ok, to the update of the project. I forgot my camera again today, but will update photos when I get back next week from Maryland again.

Tunnel is cut out, and new one fabbed, waiting to be welded in

Custom motor mount brackets made

Custom trans mount made, pinion set.

Crank locator tooth welded on the reluctor wheel

oil pan is modified for crossmember


My damn diff is open, so I am going to need to install a lsd.

I still need to make a removable console, and have it covered with leather.

Someone has generously donated a engine wiring harness to help me fab what I need.

I have purchased a painless wiring kit to update the wiring in the gto, still has not arrived

My vintage air system still has not arrived

I have decided agains a modern gto dash, I just love the simplicity of the old interior, and I already have electronic gauges installed in the stock clutster

I need to get on assembling the engine, and locating some trans to bellhousing bolts. At this point I think I am just going to bead blast everything and paint it black. i do not have time to fab everything up the way I want it and have it black chromed. Paint will have to work for awhile.

I need to either modify the crossmember, i.e. box the uppers, or modify the sw headers. I think I am going to modify the headers instead of the crossmember.the first two runners of each side interfere with the crossmember.

[ZR1@gmx.com]

You don't mess around! I am impressed!

[ZR1@gmx.com]

WoW! How many HP will that add??? Very nice!
:notworthy

[scholtmj]

Cool to see those parts are going to get used instead of sit on my shelf as garage art. The spacers should be replicated in aluminum or you can modify the dropped plenum to make it fit over the breather tubes the same way Kurt White has done.

Glad you are pleased with the purchase.

[todesengel]

I always appreciate doing business with people who keep their word, and deliver what they promise, or in this case, more.

Thank you very much again!

[todesengel]

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[todesengel]

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[todesengel]

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[tomtom72]

:jawdrop::thumbsup:

My God, this is epic! You will have the coolest GTO ever conceived.=D>


:cheers:
Tom

[XfireZ51]

Rob,

You really need to bring this thing to the Gathering this May!

[GrayZ]

Rob,

You really need to bring this thing to the Gathering this May!

R U kidding ?? He wants to come down and spanker's some ZR-1's on the
drag strip.
One thing bout Rob, he "DRIVES" his stuff, not sitting in the garage
wasting away like mine.{ LOL}

He also is an expert on wheels and likes to keep his opinion's to himself...OMG...LOL

he'll be at the gathering...count on it.:cheers:

[todesengel]

R U kidding ?? He wants to come down and spanker's some ZR-1's on the
drag strip.
One thing bout Rob, he "DRIVES" his stuff, not sitting in the garage
wasting away like mine.{ LOL}

He also is an expert on wheels and likes to keep his opinion's to himself...OMG...LOL

he'll be at the gathering...count on it.:cheers:

I have to be there. My son is going to get his feet wet on the 1/4 strip at the meet. He has never driven his car with the power key on yet lol. I figure there will be a large group that will help instruct him, and be supportive, and a small group that will ridicule and try to embarrass him. Both will be a good introduction to the track world.

[todesengel]

:jawdrop::thumbsup:

My God, this is epic! You will have the coolest GTO ever conceived.=D>


:cheers:
Tom

Not sure about epic, but it will definately be unique. The closer it gets, and it still has a long way to go, the more excited I get.

I am going to let a body shop do some touchup on the paint and realign all the front body panels when all the mechanicals are done. There is a local shop that does nothing but old a bodies, and I am sure they will do a much better job than I.

I was thinking black chrome for the engine, but the closer it gets the more I am leaning towards painting the engine to match the car. What do you guys think?

[FU]

Stick a pair of hair dryer's on that bad boy Rob !

[A26B]

I have to be there. My son is going to get his feet wet on the 1/4 strip at the meet. He has never driven his car with the power key on yet lol. I figure there will be a large group that will help instruct him, and be supportive, and a small group that will ridicule and try to embarrass him. Both will be a good introduction to the track world.

Rob,
We're all looking forward to having you both there. During my years of ZR-1 Gatherings all over the country, I have never seen the "small group" at our events. I'm constantly amazed at the level of genuine fellowship and support. Karen & I have made so many good friends of the ZR- folks.

Do you sleep at all after you start one of these projects? You really make some amazing progress. Super cool project!:proud:

[todesengel]

Stick a pair of hair dryer's on that bad boy Rob !
'That will be next winters project Frank. I want to collect real data from this project in regards to cylinder by cylinder tuning, air flow properties of the plenum, temperature, methanol injection benefits, and maximum output in regards to a stock engine with an aftermarket standalone.

Once I collect all the data above it is my intention to take this thing to the jagged edge, wasting this engine in the process (I am going to start looking for a spare once this project is together). I'm just going to enjoy it through the spring, summer, and fall, and take her back down next winter.

When I build the new motor I am going to do it stock displacement, close the deck, lower the compression and utilize multi layer steel headgaskets for the fi application. I am also going to re-engineer the crankcase ventilation system as well.

I already have the turbochargers, and will be using twin garrett gt382R snails for it. I am also going to switch the tb to a single blade unit, machine some cam caps, shave the cam cover caps so I can have mulitple generic cam cover sets without having to line bore them. It's one part of the motor design that I really do not care for.

[todesengel]

Rob,
We're all looking forward to having you both there. During my years of ZR-1 Gatherings all over the country, I have never seen the "small group" at our events. I'm constantly amazed at the level of genuine fellowship and support. Karen & I have made so many good friends of the ZR- folks.

Do you sleep at all after you start one of these projects? You really make some amazing progress. Super cool project!:proud:

Actually Jerry there is less than 5 partial days of work into this car at the present time. If I had to estimate, I would say there is < 30 hours :cheers:

About the fellowship, I am happy that has been your experience. I have been the recipient of some prety nasty pm's, and had some go so far as to tell me to leave as I have nothing to offer the board, or anyone for that matter. My personality style is just not well received by many. I have no issue speaking my mind, and saying how I feel. That is considered being an *** anymore, and people get their feelings hurt easily. I laugh at it, and just do what I do.

[todesengel]

finished laying out, and deciphering the variable electronic power steering conversion for this thing. Big ole ugly ps pump will be gone!
Modified the ati dampner to accept the 62 tooth pickup wheel
Fabbed up the hall sensor bracket

Waiting on my;
new steering box
Vintage electronic a/c unit
air ride suspension
brakes?!?!?!?!
Modifying sw headers

Undecided about;
Having my guy make me a new center console out of cf or welding one out of aluminum and covering with leather

Wont be able to touch it till next weekend. Have to go out of town again at 0330 tomorrow :(

Wont

[todesengel]

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[todesengel]

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[Pete]

Hey WTF happen to the pictures.

Rob first i'm a car guy then i'm a ZR-1 guy.

Love to see your progress.

Rob you suck for taking the pictures off,i mean that in the nicest way.:)

If your not gonna post them email me pictures petezr1@gmail.com

Pete

[todesengel]

Hey WTF happen to the pictures.

Rob first i'm a car guy then i'm a ZR-1 guy.

Love to see your progress.

Rob you suck for taking the pictures off,i mean that in the nicest way.:)

If your not gonna post them email me pictures petezr1@gmail.com

Pete

I moved all my photos into individual folders on photobucket, and apparently it broke the link. I had way too many photos in there and it was getting dificult to organize.

[todesengel]

Another day down, and slow progress.

Putting the supra independent rear in this changed the trans angle, so first was removing the tunnel, and setting the trans correctly;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto9.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto8.jpg

This has created a couple more issues, namely with the slave cylinder, that I have to deal with. I have decided that now with the modded pan, and crossmember, as well as this new height for the trans I am welding in a steel tunnel. I no longer will require a two piece for engine removal, so I am going back solid.

The engine sits much better in here now as well, as seen in the pictures. I also removed the drivers side fender to assist in the header alterations for this side, and pulled the brake booster/master for the new setup;


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto5.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto4.jpg

[todesengel]

Next up I moved forward with the rear end, and suspension removal;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto16.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto15.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto14.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto13.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto12.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto11.jpg

[todesengel]

Supra rear being placed for initial fitment;

Oop's, gas tank has to come out as well;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto3.jpg

Holy hell, look at that. It is almost a perfect fit. I need only make minor adjustments to the cross brace (already started), weld in two square bars, make forawrd mount plates, and possibly relocate rear sway bar and decide which coilovers to use and make upper mounts for them;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto2.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto1.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto.jpg

This thing is tits! huge rear disk brakes, great wheel options )I have about 20 sets of wheels for supras, and should promote great handling for the old girl. All in all I am extremely happy right now.

Will finish welding in on Tuesday, and finish the header modifications on Wednesday. Thursday will bring the adaption of the 62 wheel on the balancer, and the start of wiring.

2 weeks baby, and this thing will start, and run!

[Pete]

Looking good Rob.
Very unique.

Pete

[XfireZ51]

I'm betting we'll be seeing this car on SPEED.

[todesengel]

Looking good Rob.
Very unique.

Pete

Thanks Pete. If I could quit changing my mind and redoing things already done I would be in a much better place right now lol.

This is my LAST car build. I will tweak her on occasion in the future, but after this one I am done. I want her to be special, and as a result keep changing my mind on some things.

As you know I am selling all but about 4 of my cars. I am trying to get it back to a manageable number so I can keep up with them. I will still do my own work on my cars, but no more builds, at least that is my intent lol

[todesengel]

I'm betting we'll be seeing this car on SPEED.

It wont be nice enough for that Dom, but thank you.

The car really needs another frame off, and I just don't have it in me to do that right now. It has been a definate blast to work on though, far different from the wrenching I have done the past couple of years. I used to do some really bizzare builds for people, and myself, but it has been pretty tame cookie cutter stuff for the past couple years, until this. Always nice to stretch yourself a bit.

[todesengel]

removed the old climate control unit from under the dash see big ole hole now, ready for vintage air when it comes in;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto6.jpg

Chunky monkey

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gto7.jpg

[todesengel]

Life happens. I had some things on the family fron, and work that have slowed me a bit. I will have everything mechanical for the transplant done by tomorrow, but I am a little behind where I wanted to be.

Since there really is no trigger wheel application, had a buddy laser cut a 60-2 tooth wheel. The inside portion was left attached with little tabs for perfect center alignment utilizing the balancer "snout".

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/ati3.jpg

You can see here once mounted that the inside section was snapped off, leaving a wonderful fitting piece

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/ati1photo.jpg

Here is the front that shows the overall diameter in relation to that of the dampner.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/ati2.jpg

For shits and giggles, here is the forward mounting bracket that was fabbed for the supra independent rear suspension install. It looks like it grew out of the frame . Overall I am very happy with this. the entire sub-frame fit perfectly between the rails. I have ordered my coilover setup for the rear as well, and will use spacing rods to roll it around until they come in

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/suprairsmount1.jpg

[ZR1@gmx.com]

Amazing work Rob! Can not wait to see this ride ripping the road!

[XfireZ51]

Rob,

So is the trigger wheel going to be used to fire LSx coils?

[todesengel]

Rob,

So is the trigger wheel going to be used to fire LSx coils?

I guess in the most simple terms, yes. Using this formula you could say I am using the cam position sensor to run the timed, or if you rather, sequential fueling.

AS I replied in one of the original posts in the lt5 ignition thread, one could do this in a fashion where the stock ecu did not even realize it was running the engine any longer IF they wanted to do a standalone system.

[todesengel]

Update pics;

Tunnel welded in;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/driverssidetunnel-1.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/righttunnel.jpg

pass side header tacked, what a friggen nightmare;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/passheader2.jpg

complete;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/completedpassheader.jpg


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/passheaderalmostdone.jpg

[todesengel]

irs, various mount shots, and sitting on all fours again;

rear cross shot

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/irsmountrearcomplete.jpg

Rear left mount;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/rearirsmountdrivers.jpg

rear right side mount

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/rearirsmountpass.jpg

front right;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/passirsmountfront.jpg

front left;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/driversirsmountfront.jpg

[todesengel]

in the air with rotor and wheel;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/suprawheelintheair.jpg

On all fours again;

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/suprarearinwithtire.jpg

[tomtom72]

:thumbsup: Rob, I got to hand it to you. Man oh man when you get down to the gettin' you really fly!

Old school GTO complete with IRS & and it's very own LT5....swcheeeet! That will be something to see at BG this year. I'll have to go out & get another card for my camera so I have enough memory space for the picts!

:cheers:

[ZR1@gmx.com]

Great workmanship! Those welds look amazing!

[GrayZ]

I like the wheels, who picked em out for you ??

[todesengel]

ugh....The **** people pass off as body work. Looks like it is new fender time, and they do not make repop 71 fenders. Anyone have one handy? lol


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/trashfender1.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/trashfender2.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/trashfender3.jpg

[cvette]

Might try www.gmsportsalvage.com (http://www.gmsportsalvage.com) I've had luck in the past with them.

Also www.thepartsplaceinc.com

[-=Jeff=-]

Try these guys

http://www.dvap.com/

[todesengel]

Might try www.gmsportsalvage.com (http://www.gmsportsalvage.com) I've had luck in the past with them.

Also www.thepartsplaceinc.com

It looks like the parts place has one, but I have to wait until they are open tomorrow. Thanks cvette!

[todesengel]

Thanks Jeff, but they cannot tell me if they have one, and said it will take 20 days before they can tell me.
Try these guys

http://www.dvap.com/

[-=Jeff=-]

Thanks Jeff, but they cannot tell me if they have one, and said it will take 20 days before they can tell me.

20 days? WTF is with that.. no wonder they needed the TV show.. too lazy to go looking for it

[todesengel]

20 days? WTF is with that.. no wonder they needed the TV show.. too lazy to go looking for it

yeah, they wouldn't take an order over the phone either. he told me to go to their website and submit a parts request, and they would get back with me in "about" 20 days

[todesengel]

Strike one, two and three.

I do not understand people who are selling something, yet cannot either give you a picture, or even a description with them putting their hands on it. Good condition means many things to many different people.

This fender may cause a major issue with completing the car. i simply refuse to purchase a 40 year old used part without seeing it first, or getting a very good description of it :(

[-=Jeff=-]

Strike one, two and three.

I do not understand people who are selling something, yet cannot either give you a picture, or even a description with them putting their hands on it. Good condition means many things to many different people.

This fender may cause a major issue with completing the car. i simply refuse to purchase a 40 year old used part without seeing it first, or getting a very good description of it :(

maybe there are ZR-1 guys near these places that can go snap a couple pics..

did you search craigslist?

[todesengel]

maybe there are ZR-1 guys near these places that can go snap a couple pics..

did you search craigslist?

Yeah, I searched around craigslist, came up with nothing. At this point I am about ready to just weld another patch panel on the one I have, as distateful as it is to me.

I am not sure that the place in the chicago area (the parts place) would even show the fender to someone. They seem to have no interest in helping at all.

[-=Jeff=-]

what place in Chicago?

[todesengel]

what place in Chicago?

I appreciate it Jeff, but I kept hitting it until I found what I needed. I picked up two 72 fenders, the only difference being the ducts which I like anyway, and was lucky enough to find them local.

They will both take some work, and a little patching, but the support is still solid, and they have their unwarped form.

Thanks for the help.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/fr3.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/fr2.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/fr1.jpg

[todesengel]

Rear shock mount, ade to mount to the subframe so it will all drop as one unit.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/rear1.jpg

Pretty, pretty

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/rear2.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/rear3.jpg

Now to do the math with the weight, angle and travel to pick a spring.

[todesengel]

Here is the completed, funky shaped header finshed product. Weird, but fits.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gtoheaders.jpg

A header, and downpipe I made for my All Trac a few years ago for comparrison

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/3sgteheader.jpg

[ZR1@gmx.com]

What a work of art! I found a guy in Joplin that does ceramic coating, should have my parts back next week will let you know how they turn out if you are interested!

Here is the completed, funky shaped header finshed product. Weird, but fits.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/gtoheaders.jpg

A header, and downpipe I made for my All Trac a few years ago for comparrison

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/3sgteheader.jpg

[A1990]

Rob, your work is top shelf. Very nice indeed.

[todesengel]

Went to the shop today to clean since I didn't have much time, and wound up playing with a couple wheel options instead. If I do not clean this place soon I am not going to be able to find the car.

I'm not really feeling either one of these, and am thinking it is going to need some thick 5-spoke wheels. I wont really get a feel till she is all back together and I can get an overall perspective

ccw classics 17x12 rear

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/ccw1.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/ccw2.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/ccw.jpg

volk wheels, 18x11 rears

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/volk.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/volk1.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/volk2.jpg

[RICKYRJ1]

I Have brand new AR thick 5 spoke wheels 18's with brand new BFG KDW 2 255 rear & 235 fronts. I had them on my GN that I sold. Maybe 20 miles on them Mint. I would hook you up with a great price if your interested.

[scholtmj]

Kinesis wheels:

http://www.lateral-g.net/borodin/

Sharp car.

[XfireZ51]

Rob,

I think you're right. Those wheels are "too pretty" IMO.
Not enough muscle. Have you thought of Shelby Series 1
wheels?

[GrayZ]

This Wheel SCREAMS
//// ROB !!!!

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/kmoudy/pinkgt3.jpg

[todesengel]

I Have brand new AR thick 5 spoke wheels 18's with brand new BFG KDW 2 255 rear & 235 fronts. I had them on my GN that I sold. Maybe 20 miles on them Mint. I would hook you up with a great price if your interested.

That would be great except my lug pattern is now 5x114.3

I sincerely appreciate the offer though.

[todesengel]

Rob,

I think you're right. Those wheels are "too pretty" IMO.
Not enough muscle. Have you thought of Shelby Series 1
wheels?

Not quite sure what I want to do yet. I have one more set up my sleeve that I would really like to try first (ssr SP1 professors) before I move on.

Here they are;

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/gs-second-generation/87047d1150909919-ssr-professor-sp1s-in-black-on-black-onyx-gs-ss_wheel_prof_sp1_blk_ci3_l.jpg

[carter200]

This Wheel SCREAMS
//// ROB !!!!

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/kmoudy/pinkgt3.jpg

This is something that would be on Ru Pauls Drag racing show :p

Not that I'd know.....

[GrayZ]

This Wheel SCREAMS
//// ROB !!!!

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/kmoudy/pinkgt3.jpg


I'm sorta hurt, i' put alittle effort into finding the purrfect color pink, and Rob ignores my post....c'mon...these wheels match my thong

and if i get a vote i like the last set u posted doooood.

[carter200]

...these wheels match my thong

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[todesengel]

I'm sorta hurt, i' put alittle effort into finding the purrfect color pink, and Rob ignores my post....c'mon...these wheels match my thong

and if i get a vote i like the last set u posted doooood.

lol, only you. Are you ever going to take the ccw's for your vette?

What do you think of these?

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/sp16.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/sp15.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/sp14.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/sp12.jpg

[carter200]

I like em' :thumbsup:

[XfireZ51]

Better.

[todesengel]

thanks guys. I am still not sold, but they are my favorite so far. Weird seeing supra wheels on a gto though lol.

[ZR1@gmx.com]

I think they are the best so far... waiting to see more!
I think old school Cragar SS's would look the best!

[XfireZ51]

Rob,

Any news on this? Will it be at BG?

[HIZNHRZ]

The car is a knock-out and with the LT5 it is just going to be something special. I'm still thinking the deep dish OE Pontiac mags and beauty rings would look best on the back and standard width OE mags on the front.