Just bought a Callaway!

[LGAFF]

Well expanding my horizons in the vette world, just bought a Callaway twin turbo...#33 of 184! It needs some love but a rare bird!

[Locobob]

Nice! Congrats Lee :cheers:

[Kevin]

gona need more info and pics here. i love b2ks, up there with the zr-1 and challenge cars

[Nacho_ZR1]

Well expanding my horizons in the vette world, just bought a Callaway twin turbo...#33 of 184! It needs some love but a rare bird!

How can u post this without any pics????? Come on man!!! :icon_boun:drunken_s:fahne:

[LGAFF]

I will post pics once it arrives....been sitting out for awhile

[Nacho_ZR1]

I will post pics once it arrives....been sitting out for awhile

So what types of TLC does a car like this need? I mean, if a turbo goes out or a wastegate needs to be adjusted, what do you do? Is the motor a stock LT5 or are the heads/cams/intake different? How much boost does this baby churn out. I took a look on Wikipedia and it states they made 450hp and 615TQ ! Is this accurate?

Sounds like a very fun new toy!!!

[LGAFF]

This is an 87 they were 345hp and about 475lbft if I recall......it needs paint, clear peel is bad, and needs interior....it also has a 4+3 and OD is not engaging, could be a simple fix or might need to be rebuilt. motor is great and no damage to body!

Looks like a stock 87 with NACA ducts on the front

I will repair the tranny and do the interior, will need to wait for paint.

Bottom line 1 of 184 produced, its going to be woth some decent cash...this was a GM option.

[Ccmano]

Has she served divorce papers yet?:eusa_shhh

H

[Paul Workman]

Woo Hoo! Congratz!!!:fahne: What...No pix???

Does the "little woman" know? Need a place to sleep? Let me know. (We have a barn with a loft, and the raccoons won't mind as long as you bring a sammich or peanut butter!)

P.

[ScottZ95ZR1]

CONGRATS Lee ! Sounds like a great find, look forward to seeing the pics !

[LGAFF]

Wife is ok right now, she was not happy a few days ago....but all of my toys are paid for and its my only outlet.....

[GOLDCYLON]

No pictures? WTF Lee? Aerobody? or ?

All kidding aside congrats!!!! :wave:

[LGAFF]

I paid less than I paid for my 90 Z which was $10.5

[ZZZZZR1]

Has she served divorce papers yet?:eusa_shhh

H

Bwahahahahahahah!

Lee you are my hero!!!! :cool:



David

[Aurora40]

Cool man, look forward to hearing your opinions. They are neat cars. How many miles are on it?

So what types of TLC does a car like this need? I mean, if a turbo goes out or a wastegate needs to be adjusted, what do you do? Is the motor a stock LT5 or are the heads/cams/intake different? How much boost does this baby churn out. I took a look on Wikipedia and it states they made 450hp and 615TQ ! Is this accurate?
They are an L98, not an LT5. It is a stock block and intake, but the internals have been uprated and the compression lowered. Then two turbos are added, and two supplementary injectors are added to the intake tract (making the intake a wet one).

In '87 they made 345hp. None made 450 except for a few 1991 cars where the owners paid more. The '88-91 cars made 403hp, mainly due to larger Rotomaster turbos. The '87 uses smaller IHI turbos, but the upshot is they are still available.

Except for the 4+3 trans, and the NACA ducts looking sort of 80's, an '87 would probably be the easiest to own and really drive hard.

[Kb7tif]

Price was right! The Callaway mod look pretty interesting
I just purchased a 84 W Blown Motor. $1.4K
Going to do something crazy with this one.

[-=Jeff=-]

No pictures? WTF Lee? Aerobody? or ?

All kidding aside congrats!!!! :wave:

No. The 87 only has NACA ducts in the hood.. the Aerobody was not avail until 1989. That said, the PO could have had it installed but that is not the case

[threestar40]

Congrats...Hope you have good luck with it.

Rick :usa:

[Kevin]

No. The 87 only has NACA ducts in the hood.. the Aerobody was not avail until 1989. That said, the PO could have had it installed but that is not the case

i love that hood

[GTOger]

Oh yes, we must see some piccys. I was just driving around today in the Z (it goes to work with me) and thinking about those Callaway twin-turbo cars. I'll be interested to hear about the driveability.

[Z51JEFF]

Congrats Lee,the Callaways are the only other C4 that does it for me.

[bdw18_123]

Sounds like a cool find Lee! And for less than $10.5K? Wow!

And yup, waitin for pics...

waiting...





waiting...


:mrgreen:

[Toyvet1]

So what car will be sitting outside......

[LGAFF]

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/moto_0056.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/moto_0061.jpg

[todesengel]

nice find, and I bet it will be a fun project for you. Enjoy!

[GTOger]

Aw look... she's got such a narrow little behind. :)

[Toyvet1]

Do you happen to have a set of callaway Dymags in the basement,,,

[LGAFF]

Nope, will get either A mold repros or the 89 prototype wheels. Offset is same as the ZR-1. Will have to get a set at some point... no rush. I need to finish the 90 ZR-1 motor before I get into this one.

Paint is bad and interior shot(or at least the seats)

[tccrab]

Lee:

Wow.

I'm officially jealous.

The only question I have is:
Who in their right freaking mind would buy a Callaway and then just let it go to pot?
I mean, heck, it was twice the price of a regular 'Vette, tire shredding fast, and has spectacular good looks.
How could the previous owner not LOVE it?
I just don't get it.

What is the history of the car?

And again, Congrats.
Great find, great buy.

TomC
'Crabs

[FU]

Like those B2K's :cheers: Have fun !

[tomtom72]

Hey Lee, sweeeet find at that price! I hope you have many miles of :mrgreen: with her!


Congrats man! :cheers:

[Aurora40]

I dig the color! It just needs the engine bay vacuumed out and it will look 10 times better. I kinda dig the stock wheels on the earlier cars, but tires are becoming non-existent in that size. So I can understand tossing some ZR-1 wheels on there.

[Kb7tif]

Cool hood On that car also. That will be a whole different experience look at the torque curve on that 465 at 2800. Thats going to be fun.

[Pete]

Lee,your nuts.
Nice find.

Hi my name is Lee and i'm a C4holic. :)

Pete

[-=Jeff=-]

Lee,your nuts.
Nice find.

Hi my name is Lee and i'm a C4holic. :)

Pete

Hi my name is Lee and I want to know how many C4s does it take for a divorce

[LGAFF]

So I just need a Grand Sport and a Challenge car to complete the line up, right?

[-=Jeff=-]

86 and 95 Pace Cars as well

[bdw18_123]

Wouldn't hurt to throw in an '88 35th Anniversary car either... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Toyvet1]

ultra rare 83 model....wait with your horseshoe..cool car cant wait to see it..

[-=Jeff=-]

All 3 40th models and the 94 brickyard pace car

[Pete]

Add a good attorney to the collection.:)

Pete

[xlr8nflorida]

Bottom line 1 of 184 produced, its going to be woth some decent cash...this was a GM option.[/QUOTE]


Agree and because you do the work, I think it probably makes sense.

You will have 20-25k in it when done no? Which is probably current market value of a nice one now.

Nice to bring it back though.

[LGAFF]

I don't think I am going to Drop $11-16k into the car...will finish my 90 ZR-1 project and then move to the Callaway for a light resto.....

[xlr8nflorida]

I don't think I am going to Drop $11-16k into the car...will finish my 90 ZR-1 project and then move to the Callaway for a light resto.....


Cool, I was thinking Paint, Interior and Transmission and around here that is 10k alone.

Those rims that are on the car. Obviously you have tons of Call. Rims but did the owner sell the original rims? Or am I thinking of the 89 car that had different rims?

[LGAFF]

Dymags were an option, this car used the stockers...its also #33 so no dymags. It will end up with the Prototype ZR-1 or A molds on it......maybe dymags some day. I want to make sure I get the Snakeskinner project done, and that will include buying cams....so will be conservative until the 90 is done.

[xlr8nflorida]

Dymags were an option, this car used the stockers...its also #33 so no dymags. It will end up with the Prototype ZR-1 or A molds on it......maybe dymags some day. I want to make sure I get the Snakeskinner project done, and that will include buying cams....so will be conservative until the 90 is done.


Cool, if you need any help, I have a good mechanic for Callaway.

[Hammer]

B2K's are cool. Nice find and great price.

I have a friend here that has a '91 Callaway 500 (one of the last 8 ever built). Tag on the console states #505 of 508. Dark Red Metallic, black interior, hardtop, less than 8k miles. We put it on the dyno two years ago and it was amazing. Laid down 349 HP and 467 TQ. Highest TQ of the day, including a built Viper that laid down only 440 TQ. That Callaway had so much torque it was spinning the rear wheels on the dyno once the turbos spooled up. It went from 2k to 5k like right now. I was impressed.

Good luck, nice car Lee.

[Aurora40]

The Dymags in '87 were a 16" one, not the 17" Dymags that Callaway used as standard on '88+ cars and that GM used on Challenge cars.

Most '87s had stock wheels.

Unless you keep it "Callaway" original, restoring it probably won't add much equity to the car. And keeping it Callaway means spending big green. You got the car cheap, I'd try to keep it cheap and just enjoy it for what it is. Sounds like that's your plan anyway, though. :cheers:

[A1990]

Unless you keep it "Callaway" original, restoring it probably won't add much equity to the car. And keeping it Callaway means spending big green. You got the car cheap, I'd try to keep it cheap and just enjoy it for what it is. Sounds like that's your plan anyway, though. :cheers:
I agree with Bob. To make this car appreciate in value you will need to keep it "Callaway".

Have fun with it.

[Kevin]

B2K's are cool. Nice find and great price.

I have a friend here that has a '91 Callaway 500 (one of the last 8 ever built). Tag on the console states #505 of 508. Dark Red Metallic, black interior, hardtop, less than 8k miles. We put it on the dyno two years ago and it was amazing. Laid down 349 HP and 467 TQ. Highest TQ of the day, including a built Viper that laid down only 440 TQ. That Callaway had so much torque it was spinning the rear wheels on the dyno once the turbos spooled up. It went from 2k to 5k like right now. I was impressed.

Good luck, nice car Lee.

sounds like hennesey built that viper...

[LGAFF]

Guy would not even send me a signed bill of sale, told him to forget it.

[xlr8nflorida]

Guy would not even send me a signed bill of sale, told him to forget it.

Glad you dodged that bullet :handshak:

[-=Jeff=-]

I bet the wife is a bit happier, until you find the next project

[LGAFF]

I even sent the guy a copy of the check with a # he could call to verify funds, at this point I have to say either something is up or he really does not care to sell it.

[todesengel]

I even sent the guy a copy of the check with a # he could call to verify funds, at this point I have to say either something is up or he really does not care to sell it.

Sorry to hear that. Some people are old school, and very trustworthy, others, well if you get that funny feeling in your gut there is probably a reason why.

[xlr8nflorida]

I even sent the guy a copy of the check with a # he could call to verify funds, at this point I have to say either something is up or he really does not care to sell it.

He may try forge check - make fraudulent one. I only do wire transfers.
Criminals can produce all kinds of fake checks with scanners, technology etc.

[Zr1 Destroyer]

There's one rotting away a here in Colorado that will probably never see the road again along with some Syclones......sad chit!

Had a buddy go down to see if he could pickup another Syclone, but the guy said all these cars will rott before they're ever sold.
http://www.lettertgraphics.com/gallery2/d/7338-1/IMAG0032.jpg
http://www.lettertgraphics.com/gallery2/d/7340-1/IMAG0033.jpg
http://www.lettertgraphics.com/gallery2/d/7342-1/IMAG0034.jpg
http://www.lettertgraphics.com/gallery2/d/7344-1/IMAG0035.jpg
http://www.lettertgraphics.com/gallery2/d/7356-1/IMAG0041.jpg
http://www.lettertgraphics.com/gallery2/d/7333-1/IMAG0030.jpg

[-=Jeff=-]

There's one rotting away a here in Colorado that will probably never see the road again along with some Syclones......sad chit!

Had a buddy go down to see if he could pickup another Syclone, but the guy said all these cars will rott before they're ever sold.
http://www.lettertgraphics.com/gallery2/d/7338-1/IMAG0032.jpg
http://www.lettertgraphics.com/gallery2/d/7340-1/IMAG0033.jpg
http://www.lettertgraphics.com/gallery2/d/7342-1/IMAG0034.jpg
http://www.lettertgraphics.com/gallery2/d/7344-1/IMAG0035.jpg
http://www.lettertgraphics.com/gallery2/d/7356-1/IMAG0041.jpg
http://www.lettertgraphics.com/gallery2/d/7333-1/IMAG0030.jpg

Why does the owner not want to part with them or?

[Zr1 Destroyer]

Why does the owner not want to part with them or?I guess from what my friend said he's a 40 something spoiled brat that has never worked a day in his life with a huge chip on his shoulder. By the time he ever gets ready to sell them the Colorado sun will reduce them all to just parts.:( Four Irocs, 2 T-types, 4 syclones, 1 callaway and a few other ods and ends!

[xlr8nflorida]

I guess from what my friend said he's a 40 something spoiled brat that has never worked a day in his life with a huge chip on his shoulder. By the time he ever gets ready to sell them the Colorado sun will reduce them all to just parts.:( Four Irocs, 2 T-types, 4 syclones, 1 callaway and a few other ods and ends!

And if all your cars look shitty and most don't run then who cares??

Looks like a junk yard to me.

[Kb7tif]

Guy would not even send me a signed bill of sale, told him to forget it.


Half the fun is finding the next one. Enjoy the searching.

[rudolph schenker]

CONGRATS Lee ! Sounds like a great find, look forward to seeing the pics !


:cheers:

:cool:

Pics please!

[LGAFF]

Deal fell through seller was impossible to work with wanted me to send him the check with no contract, etc....noo way!

[Aurora40]

Sorry it didn't work out. Sounds like walking away was the right move, though.

[Kevin]

Sorry it didn't work out. Sounds like walking away was the right move, though.

exactly, sounds like you were about to get royally ******

[-=Jeff=-]

it was on craigslist wasn't

[XfireZ51]

Deal fell through seller was impossible to work with wanted me to send him the check with no contract, etc....noo way!

I think your wife gave you the "mal ochio".

[LGAFF]

I think your wife gave you the "mal ochio".


She is actually dissappointed....she was going to get a new bracelet in exchange......oh well, new cams for the build it is! and with my new cams I will kind of have a Callaway.

[XfireZ51]

She is actually dissappointed....she was going to get a new bracelet in exchange......oh well, new cams for the build it is! and with my new cams I will kind of have a Callaway.

New cams are cheaper. Maybe you can make a bracelet out of the lobes from the stock cam.

[Locobob]

She is actually dissappointed....she was going to get a new bracelet in exchange......oh well, new cams for the build it is! and with my new cams I will kind of have a Callaway.

So what are you planning for cams? :happy1:

[LGAFF]

I am using Area 51 cams

[-=Jeff=-]

I am using Pete 51 cams


Fixed it :p

[LGAFF]

Fixed it :p


maybe, but :happy1:maybe not.........hmmmmmmmmm

maybe my magic horseshoe crawled out of my arse and told me a secret!

[Locobob]

I am using Area 51 cams

Did Elvis make them.... are they Alien technology? :mrgreen:

[LGAFF]

Did Elvis make them.... are they Alien technology? :mrgreen:

ETs finger didn't glow red from pickin his nose...thats from grindin cam lobes!

[LGAFF]

Pete threatened to take me aboard his mothership and probe me if I talk too much!

He said his has a long red tip just like ET.....

[Locobob]

Pete threatened to take me aboard his mothership and probe me if I talk too much!

He said his has a long red tip just like ET.....

Hmmm, maybe Pete IS Elvis..... :mrgreen:

[XfireZ51]

maybe, but :happy1:maybe not.........hmmmmmmmmm

maybe my magic horseshoe crawled out of my arse and told me a secret!

They're soooo secret, you won't be able to actually see them due to stealth technology. And yes it is alien technology from the god Zeus of Des Plaines.

[-=Jeff=-]

maybe my magic horseshoe crawled out of my arse


I am doubting that is possible, I think it got lost on the way in...

:jawdrop:

[XfireZ51]

I am doubting that is possible, I think it got lost on the way in...

:jawdrop:

In either case, Pete is going to be surprised when he runs into it.:bootyshak

[-=Jeff=-]

In either case, Pete is going to be surprised when he runs into it.:bootyshak
:sign10:

[LGAFF]

Frank entering the mother ship for a probing......(These Frank shots have unlimited potential)
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/kmoudy/bg2009010.jpg

[GOLDCYLON]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOqBPz2t_b4

[FU]

Man I don't know who that guy is (swear it) but he need's to cover that thang up !

[LGAFF]

Well for nearly the same price: #17 of 184 B2K option 1987 Callaway TT

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/cttside.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/CTT3.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/CCTT5.jpg

[A1990]

Looks nice Lee! Congrats! Love the Callaways

[Blue Flame Restorations]

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice job, Lee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cheers:

[LGAFF]

Now Brett I already paid for this one....so don't take it from me ...you have enough toys!:cheers:


Pick it up next week

Do I leave the BBS on with 255/50/16s or go with the ZR-1 Prototypes...275 fronts 315 backs....

[Daniel_Mc]

Lee,
Love the car! What about some Gen 1 Callaway Dymags?

Daniel

[threestar40]

Love it...no, I don't...yeah I do.


Rick ;)

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Now Brett I already paid for this one....so don't take it from me ...you have enough toys!:cheers:


Pick it up next week

Do I leave the BBS on with 255/50/16s or go with the ZR-1 Prototypes...275 fronts 315 backs....

You want a slightly used 90 to match that #702 block?:p

Not missing too much, except just about everything!:o

[tomtom72]

Wow nice car Lee!

Good luck with the new toy, use it in good health!:cheers:

[LGAFF]

Lee,
Love the car! What about some Gen 1 Callaway Dymags?

Daniel

I have a set 6 of them in 17X9.5......just need to get them fixed up..eventually they will be on the car.

[Aurora40]

Well for nearly the same price: #17 of 184 B2K option 1987 Callaway TT

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/cttside.jpg

My first 'vette was an '87 in that dark metallic red. It was tons of fun. But I saw an '87 B2K at Carlisle one year when I had it, and it made my car seem so uninteresting by comparison. It looked just like mine, except with those two NACA ducts on the hood. The way they suggested at turbo-boosted power seemed so awesome.

Cool car, and nice score on it. For the wheels, I'm guessing tires will be the decider, whether you like the BBS's or not. 255/50-16's are becoming quite hard to find. And if they are 9.5" wide, a 245/50 would be a kind of dangerous fit. Dymags were not standard on '87s, they had regular wheels generally. The Dymags that were optional were a) 16", b) really rare, and c) fairly unattractive.

I have to say, the NACA ducts that seemed so cool back then don't really stand the test of time. But I'm sure it'll be fun.

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Lee, I know where there are some 16" Dymags.

[LGAFF]

Let me know Brett! Sure the wife would love for me to buy them:)

[LGAFF]

BBS 16X9.5
or Prototypes 17X11

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/czop0010169.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/054.jpg

[Blue Flame Restorations]

You're killing me...........

[XfireZ51]

I think I like the sawblades. In their days, the BBS WHEELS were nice but the aesthetic today is for a much fuller wheel face not something narrowed,
IMO.

[LGAFF]

Here is the car on youtube, pardon the Bon Jovi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aohNr97gT4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oodmQ1u1x4

[HIZNHRZ]

Very nice Lee. If this one is the same money you were going to pay for the first one you made an offer on I'd say you made out like a bandit.

Enjoy!

[Kevin]

great looking car, plugs look to be a night mare

[LGAFF]

Plugs on all L98s are a PITA.....ended up getting it for $11500....

the other one had 10K more miles, needed a full paint job, interior, and new OD unit

This one only needs tires and a new NACA duct..some rear capret

Will pick it up this coming Thursday

[Kevin]

i had an l98 before my zr-1 and i only had to do plugs once...i wonder if coming up from the bottom would be better then coming from the top

[-=Jeff=-]

i had an l98 before my zr-1 and i only had to do plugs once...i wonder if coming up from the bottom would be better then coming from the top

no, I don't think from the bottom would be easier.. you think the L98 was bad try a LT1 or LT4.. #8 on those is worse then a L98..

[LGAFF]

solution is to sit backwards in the tire; facing away from the car....postions you hand in the right orientation to thread it...

I think it took me three hours the first time to change L98 plugs

[mjn76]

Plugs on all L98s are a PITA.....ended up getting it for $11500....

the other one had 10K more miles, needed a full paint job, interior, and new OD unit

This one only needs tires and a new NACA duct..some rear capret

Will pick it up this coming Thursday

WoW $11.5 I saw it on the web site for $15.9, any chance when I find the right one you can do the negotiating for me;)

[LGAFF]

The trick is to know the market, know how long the car has been for sale, and to let them know you can afford it, but don't need it.......not many people can afford these right now, or more importantly qualify to fianance them....lots of bargins

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Did you get it back to Chicago today????? Pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LGAFF]

Staying in STL tonight, car seems good, apparently new turbos on the car, interior is not in bad shape....just needs carpet. Paint is alittle rough, but steering is tight, ran at 185 degrees in traffic.

Seems to be a good deal. clutch seems new also


6 hours to get to know the car tomorrow:cheers:

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Gald it's to your expectations. Have a safe trip home.

[LGAFF]

Brett I need a few days in Indy to learn fiberglass repair!

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Always welcome at the shop! Come on down. I'll teach you how to make molds and parts!

[LGAFF]

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/Picture007.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/Picture009.jpg

[LGAFF]

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/Picture011.jpg

[tccrab]

Can't find the "Drool" smiley.
Gosh that is a purdy car.
Good choice on the Proto wheels, they really set it off nicely.

:cheers:

TomC
'Crabs

[Ccmano]

Nice...:icon_thum

So where exactly are planning to store all these Vettes, the wifes MB and your DD...:icon_scra

Do you have 2 lifts in the 2 car garage?

H
:cheers:

[LGAFF]

My daily driver is an 04 Ford Focus......35MPG:) Sits outside, the Callaway will be out for awhile and I will move one of the cars somewhere to store....Sister owns a farm in Springfield with three storage buidlings.

Wife keeps her spot...

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Lee, that car looks so much better with those wheels. Really nice touch. The Dymags will look just as good.

Nice find and nice buy!!