A question about LED bulbs.

[Z51JEFF]

Will these work for the 3rd brake light?I tried to buy a set from a place that had them for the C4 brake light but the place cant get them right now.http://www.sailorsams.com/led_bulbs.htm

[Z51JEFF]

Its the A8 bulb Im looking at.

[pantera1683]

You should get LED bulbs which have all the LEDs facing the lens.

[pantera1683]

You can find the CHMSL LEDs on Ebay but IMHO they are not worth the effort. I have them as well as the LED brake lights like Goldcylon's; the brake lights are all you need.

[Z51JEFF]

I want something that is annoyingly bright.I cant pull into a parking lot without some moron right on my a$$,I have to creep past the driveway and Im afraid Im going to get stuffed one of these days.I ordered a set from CorvetteHid but got an email a few day later they couldnt get them.I found some at the link in my first post.Ill call this place and see if they will work.Does anybody know how bright,lumens the stock lights are?

[pantera1683]

Look at Goldcylon's pics. That is all you need. The CHMSL LEDs are not much brighter than stock.

[todesengel]

why in the world would anyone want taillights that bright? Factory components are one thing, but deliberately putting stuff on your vehicle to blind other people makes zero sense to me. If I was behind someone with aftermarket bling on the back of their car, and it was blinding me I would make sure they got a good dose of my high beams.

People who do not pay attention while driving wont suddenly do so because you have brighter tailights, but you may have a lifted 2500 shooting their high beams into your cabin.

This makes about as much sense to me as drl, neons, European non dot approved hid's, led valve stem caps, and led windshield washer nozzles.

Everyone has their own taste though, so I am sure I will get flamed for this opinion.

[pantera1683]

why in the world would anyone want taillights that bright? Factory components are one thing, but deliberately putting stuff on your vehicle to blind other people makes zero sense to me. If I was behind someone with aftermarket bling on the back of their car, and it was blinding me I would make sure they got a good dose of my high beams.

People who do not pay attention while driving wont suddenly do so because you have brighter tailights, but you may have a lifted 2500 shooting their high beams into your cabin.

This makes about as much sense to me as drl, neons, European non dot approved hid's, led valve stem caps, and led windshield washer nozzles.

Everyone has their own taste though, so I am sure I will get flamed for this opinion.


Well you asked for it, so "flame on." Welcome to 2011! I don't know where you live but it populated areas like Houston, drivers have an uncanny ability to talk, text, put on makeup, eat, and do just about anything in there cars while driving. In the sticks this may not be a big deal, but in a place where you have to share the road with a lot of other people this tends to lead to a lot of accidents. Every little thing you can do in a tiny car like a corvette to get people to notice you are there, the better your chances of not becoming the victim of an "accident." Goldcylon and more recently Rhipsher can tell you about that.

As a motorcyclist, I can tell you it's the same with bikes with loud pipes. People may not see the bike, but when they hear it they become more attentive.


Also you may want to think twice about shooting highbeams at the wrong person or someone might shoot something else back at you. Seriously, those are the times we are living in.

[todesengel]

Well you asked for it, so "flame on." Welcome to 2011! I don't know where you live but it populated areas like Houston, drivers have an uncanny ability to talk, text, put on makeup, eat, and do just about anything in there cars while driving. In the sticks this may not be a big deal, but in a place where you have to share the road with a lot of other people this tends to lead to a lot of accidents. Every little thing you can do in a tiny car like a corvette to get people to notice you are there, the better your chances of not becoming the victim of an "accident." Goldcylon and more recently Rhipsher can tell you about that.

As a motorcyclist, I can tell you it's the same with bikes with loud pipes. People may not see the bike, but when they hear it they become more attentive.


Also you may want to think twice about shooting highbeams at the wrong person or someone might shoot something else back at you. Seriously, those are the times we are living in.

Ah, the nerf the world defense. So basically what you are saying is that it is ok to make others suffer for your personal choice? blasting ear drums, blinding lights, all ok as it adds to your safety?

long ago, in a different world for me i stopped at a red light at ~0300. not many cars on the road, and the one i was driving just happened to be a fully marked, light bar and decal equipped state issued car, #728 actually. A car pulled behind me, backed up, blasted around me through the redlight.......

turn on your tv and watch some of these dumbest people shows. these shows are full of people who *** end police cruisers on the side of the road, even though they have their light bar flashing.

Stupid people do stupid things, and what you feel is safety inspiring may actually have a moth to the flame effect.

I drive over 50k miles a year, through most major metropolitan areas, and still see no need for these. The year, and area have zero bearing on people and dwhua's (driving with head up ***).

As far as shining what where, i own my actions, and am pretty damn well equipped for anyone who wishes to escalate a situation they themselves created. if you wish to make me miserable to give yourself a little added sense of security you should also be prepared to deal with owning your own actions. Thinly veiled threats carry as much weight to me as peoples opinions on my possessions, or opinions.

What I offered was just my opinion, no need to take it personal we have them. It's a open forum, and as such it is open to all opinions, at least that is my understanding.

[Z51JEFF]

why in the world would anyone want taillights that bright? Factory components are one thing, but deliberately putting stuff on your vehicle to blind other people makes zero sense to me. If I was behind someone with aftermarket bling on the back of their car, and it was blinding me I would make sure they got a good dose of my high beams.

People who do not pay attention while driving wont suddenly do so because you have brighter tailights, but you may have a lifted 2500 shooting their high beams into your cabin.

This makes about as much sense to me as drl, neons, European non dot approved hid's, led valve stem caps, and led windshield washer nozzles.

Everyone has their own taste though, so I am sure I will get flamed for this opinion.
Do me a favor,dont respond to any of my posts from now,you have not a single thing to offer me or anyone else for that matter.If you feel the need to respond to this,send me a message or email.

[todesengel]

Do me a favor,dont respond to any of my posts from now,you have not a single thing to offer me or anyone else for that matter.If you feel the need to respond to this,send me a message or email.

ouch.

No interest in having a personal conference with you, but thanks for the offer.

[pantera1683]

Ah, the nerf the world defense. So basically what you are saying is that it is ok to make others suffer for your personal choice? blasting ear drums, blinding lights, all ok as it adds to your safety?

long ago, in a different world for me i stopped at a red light at ~0300. not many cars on the road, and the one i was driving just happened to be a fully marked, light bar and decal equipped state issued car, #728 actually. A car pulled behind me, backed up, blasted around me through the redlight.......

turn on your tv and watch some of these dumbest people shows. these shows are full of people who *** end police cruisers on the side of the road, even though they have their light bar flashing.

Stupid people do stupid things, and what you feel is safety inspiring may actually have a moth to the flame effect.

I drive over 50k miles a year, through most major metropolitan areas, and still see no need for these. The year, and area have zero bearing on people and dwhua's (driving with head up ***).

As far as shining what where, i own my actions, and am pretty damn well equipped for anyone who wishes to escalate a situation they themselves created. if you wish to make me miserable to give yourself a little added sense of security you should also be prepared to deal with owning your own actions. Thinly veiled threats carry as much weight to me as peoples opinions on my possessions, or opinions.

What I offered was just my opinion, no need to take it personal we have them. It's a open forum, and as such it is open to all opinions, at least that is my understanding.


Uh yeah, I do hold my personal safety and my family's above any one else's. I think most people do.

I didn't take anything you said personally nor was I offended by anything you said. I don't see how or why you would take any of what I wrote as a "thinly veiled threat" but hey that's on you. I was just trying to make the point that provoking a situation sometimes has unwanted consequences, especially when dealing with people you don't know.

To the OP, get the LEDs taillights, you won't regret them and they are very easy to install. Just make sure you get the flasher "EL-12" from your local auto parts store.

[Z51JEFF]

Uh yeah, I do hold my personal safety and my family's above any one else's. I think most people do.

I didn't take anything you said personally nor was I offended by anything you said. I don't see how or why you would take any of what I wrote as a "thinly veiled threat" but hey that's on you. I was just trying to make the point that provoking a situation sometimes has unwanted consequences, especially when dealing with people you don't know.

To the OP, get the LEDs taillights, you won't regret them and they are very easy to install. Just make sure you get the flasher "EL-12" from your local auto parts store.

I dont want the taillights,just the LEDs in the 3rd brake light.I will gladly annoy somebody if it means NOT having to repair my car.

[pantera1683]

I dont want the taillights,just the LEDs in the 3rd brake light.I will gladly annoy somebody if it means NOT having to repair my car.

That's what I was saying a few posts ago. The 3d brake light LEDs aren't much brighter than the stockers.

[GOLDCYLON]

why in the world would anyone want taillights that bright?


To avoid getting hit in the rear by AZZHOLES who cant drive and apparently cant see brakelights as well. After 4 rear end collisions in Phoenix in a 5 year period this was my solution. So far so good

[GOLDCYLON]

Look at Goldcylon's pics. That is all you need. The CHMSL LEDs are not much brighter than stock.


They are not but the LEDs should last the lifetime of the car. However the rear lights are very bright.

[-=Jeff=-]

Custom 3rd brake light.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_N1g6599TmMo/S_8wrdKlblI/AAAAAAAAAx8/usdxRPzbWnw/s640/2010-05-27%2021.52.19.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_N1g6599TmMo/TBV97uH2L-I/AAAAAAAAA1U/RF9_LXXNjZc/s720/DSC_0055.JPG

I shortened and rewired a 3rd brake light from a Uplander. I used the clear lens and LED board from the Uplander but used the OEM red lens.

[GOLDCYLON]

Custom 3rd brake light.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_N1g6599TmMo/S_8wrdKlblI/AAAAAAAAAx8/usdxRPzbWnw/s640/2010-05-27%2021.52.19.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_N1g6599TmMo/TBV97uH2L-I/AAAAAAAAA1U/RF9_LXXNjZc/s720/DSC_0055.JPG

I shortened and rewired a 3rd brake light from a Uplander. I used the clear lens and LED board from the Uplander but used the OEM red lens.


Jeff that CHMSL looks great. Taking custom orders? Im in Daryll

[-=Jeff=-]

Jeff that CHMSL looks great. Taking custom orders? Im in Daryll

It is not cheap.. the Uplander assembly is ~$80 new

I could mod one for you if you want.

only thing is modding the OEM wiring, as the OEM Light PCB and reflector are removed. I added the connector mate to the vette harness to connect in the light.

the uplander light is 12 LEDs, I shorten it to 9, but the OEM light was 3 gangs of 4 LEDs, I made it 3 gangs of 3..

[-=Jeff=-]

Just found the Dorman match 923-205

Rockauto sells the Light for ~$55

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?catalog=42&partnum=923205&a=FR42-923205-415707

[GOLDCYLON]

Just found the Dorman match 923-205

Rockauto sells the Light for ~$55

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?catalog=42&partnum=923205&a=FR42-923205-415707

Would it be plug and play or would I need to cut the harness ?

[-=Jeff=-]

Would it be plug and play or would I need to cut the harness ?


There are a couple ways to approach my modded brake light.


1) desoldering the leads off the OEM Light and soldering them to the new one (no cutting)

2) cutting them close off the old light soldering to new one

3) adding a connector on the 'body side' that mates to the connector on the LED lights ( still requires cutting or desoldering)

4) get a used OEM vette CHMSL assembly and I mod that, that one would be Plug and play by using the complete harness.

[Z51JEFF]

I had a brain fart at work today.All Im looking for is a brighter light to get the morons to pay attention.Brighter reflector?I stopped by Tap Plastics and had the guy cut me a few pieces of mirrored plastic,3/4 by 1 1/8.I have an extra light ........thank you Daryll very much.Im going to try this and see how it turns out.If this doesnt do the job Ill look into the Uplander option,thanks Jeff.When I had my 84 years ago I was read ended at least 3-4 times so I am a little paranoid.