MovIt Brake Eye Candy at its finest

[TFENT]

Gentleman:

This is not an advertisement by any means as I know that MovIt's are are rarely sold to ZR-1 owners simply because they are extremely expensive and overkill for our beloved beasts. But I wanted to show you a project we are just wrapping up for a fellow ZR-1 owner. This kit is installed on the 4th to the last C4 ZR-1 made and the car only has 000005 miles on it and sits in a garage for my client to admire.


The Front is a 6 piston billet system with 342mm rotors and the rear WAS a 4 piston billet caliper with a 2nd mechanical brake caliper for the emergency brake. The pictures of the new 6 piston calipers are going to replace the 4 piston calipers and are enroute to the client for installation shortly.

Again I just thought I would share some eye candy with you all.

I know I will get asked so, this kit was $10K+

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/MovIt%20ZR1%20Pics/ZR1front1.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/MovIt%20ZR1%20Pics/zr1rear1.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/MovIt%20ZR1%20Pics/CIMG2779.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/MovIt%20ZR1%20Pics/CIMG3045.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/MovIt%20ZR1%20Pics/CIMG3048.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/MovIt%20ZR1%20Pics/CIMG3047.jpg

[Aurora40]

That's some nice looking stuff right there! It's a shame they are going on car that will never use them. So maybe that will answer this question, but: did you do anything to the master cylinder to address the huge increase in piston displacement from the upgrade?

Also, congrats on the F1 sponsorship this last season. I saw the nose branding up close and personal on one of Speed TV's "Racing Per Matchett". They looked at the front wing on the Renault, and so we got a good look at the Movit branding.

[DaveK]

Looks a very nice setup - is the brake MC up to the task with brakes that size? I thought I'd read someone posting that there's not enough fluid flow for very large brake systems?

[DaveK]

Akkk! What Bob said :o

[TFENT]

That's some nice looking stuff right there! It's a shame they are going on car that will never use them. So maybe that will answer this question, but: did you do anything to the master cylinder to address the huge increase in piston displacement from the upgrade?

Also, congrats on the F1 sponsorship this last season. I saw the nose branding up close and personal on one of Speed TV's "Racing Per Matchett". They looked at the front wing on the Renault, and so we got a good look at the Movit branding.

Thank you for the kind words. We have been doing alot this last year with F1 and the new line of CER/Ceramics. We have already run our ceramics on the F1's this year in testing and they will get 100% use on all Renault F1's next season.

In regards to the master cylinder and the brake bias. MovIt custom makes each caliper per the specs of each vehicle requirements. So the engineer actually does the math for the desired vehicle master cylinder to be outfitted and manufactures the caliper pistons accordingly in the caliper for a perfect bias.

CER pics:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/Ceramic%20Brakes/CER_Scheibe_0345.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/Ceramic%20Brakes/CER_40er-Scheibe_1_0348_M.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/Ceramic%20Brakes/CER_40er-SCheibe-4_0357_M.jpg

[GOLDCYLON]

Nice Eye Candy. Cylons like shiny brake systems. But 10K is way too tuff.

[Aurora40]

Thank you for the kind words. We have been doing alot this last year with F1 and the new line of CER/Ceramics. We have already run our ceramics on the F1's this year in testing and they will get 100% use on all Renault F1's next season.

In regards to the master cylinder and the brake bias. MovIt custom makes each caliper per the specs of each vehicle requirements. So the engineer actually does the math for the desired vehicle master cylinder to be outfitted and manufactures the caliper pistons accordingly in the caliper for a perfect bias.

I hear what you are saying about bias, but what about a long pedal?

Also, congrats on cracking into F1 as a supplier, that is really exciting! Will they still be running smallish 278x28mm rotors? I've heard rumors of larger diameter wheels in F1, along with larger brakes. I always found that amazing that the brake rotors on an F1 car were slightly smaller than the J55 brakes on a 1990 ZR-1.

Also, those ceramic brakes look awesome! I do have a question, do you think that is something that will ever (reasonably) reach the level of replacement rotors? I.e. just buying a ceramic rotor and some compatible pads for an existing brake setup, vs some expensive complete kit?

[bdw18_123]

... I always found that amazing that the brake rotors on an F1 car were slightly smaller than the J55 brakes on a 1990 ZR-1. ...


I guess you don't need big brakes when your car weighs less than 1,400 lbs. :mrgreen:

I just now read that F1 cars can go from zero to 100mph to zero again in less than 5 seconds! :jawdrop:


Oh, and those brakes are really awesome looking, but $10K is more than I paid for my whole ZR-1 including all the parts I've bought so far...

[TFENT]

I hear what you are saying about bias, but what about a long pedal?

Also, congrats on cracking into F1 as a supplier, that is really exciting! Will they still be running smallish 278x28mm rotors? I've heard rumors of larger diameter wheels in F1, along with larger brakes. I always found that amazing that the brake rotors on an F1 car were slightly smaller than the J55 brakes on a 1990 ZR-1.

Also, those ceramic brakes look awesome! I do have a question, do you think that is something that will ever (reasonably) reach the level of replacement rotors? I.e. just buying a ceramic rotor and some compatible pads for an existing brake setup, vs some expensive complete kit?

There is no long pedal with the use of our system. It is all engineered into the piston diameter, piston height, size of the hydraulic plumbing inside of the caliper, and some other factors. Again its all done with the math of the original master cylinder. In the end the pedal feels way better then stock.

In regards to the F1 racing gear. Well that stuff is way over my pay-grade. The man in charge of that Is Guido. Even though I have my degree in mechanical engineering this stuff is so complicated it makes my head spin.

That being said the CER as a replacement rotors was thought of at first. It was found to be impractical. This because the CER rotors are like aluminum is to steel. It can be used in its place and is lighter but requires more material to be used to be as strong/durable. So the CER rotor needs to be thicker then a steel rotor for the same durability. This means your stock 24-28mm rotor is too thin. Our front CER rotors are 40mm thick. There are some applications that do cross over and will work with a straight pad/rotor swap like that found on Ferrari's and Porsche's, those brake systems are stock at 34-36mm thick and can get a straight rotor/pad swap out. Besides the fact that the rotors are close to $5K each there isn't alot of folks that want to invest that kind of money as a replacement rotor if they are not going to use it for all its worth. The positive side of the cost is the rotor will NEVER wear out. This means 2 things. First buy a whole kit that can be moved from one vehicle to another, making the kit itself a long term investment. 2nd If you only bought rotors and pads they would only fit that one application, thus a waste of money.

[xlr8nflorida]

Really nice looking stuff, I like something less blingy.

You can go with Baer 6r or 6s 6 piston mono block calipers with eradispeed 2 piece rotors front and back for half that amount of money.

The ceramic is nice but you need to be careful with cleaning products etc.

I went with Baer after reviewing both products. I'm sure you will say you get what you pay for but quite frankly after doing my research and talking to a lot of people the higher premium for movit was not something I was willing to pay unless performance was better.

[Aurora40]

Really nice looking stuff, I like something less blingy.

You can go with Baer 6r or 6s 6 piston mono block calipers with eradispeed 2 piece rotors front and back for half that amount of money.

The ceramic is nice but you need to be careful with cleaning products etc.

I went with Baer after reviewing both products. I'm sure you will say you get what you pay for but quite frankly after doing my research and talking to a lot of people the higher premium for movit was not something I was willing to pay unless performance was better.

Wow man... If you're gonna badmouth the product that is the sole subject of this thread, can you at least expound upon your testing criteria?

What are you using to say one setup's performance is "better" than another? And what type of activities are you engaging in with your car that would be taking either setup to their limits? Do you road race it? Or do stuff like 1/4 mile, standing mile or longer acceleration, to where you brake from high speeds?

You are straight-up saying there is no performance increase from a MovIt setup over your Baer setup, in spite of the higher cost. I think some level of detail is warranted, as that's quite a claim.

[Aurora40]

That being said the CER as a replacement rotors was thought of at first. It was found to be impractical. This because the CER rotors are like aluminum is to steel. It can be used in its place and is lighter but requires more material to be used to be as strong/durable. So the CER rotor needs to be thicker then a steel rotor for the same durability. This means your stock 24-28mm rotor is too thin. Our front CER rotors are 40mm thick. There are some applications that do cross over and will work with a straight pad/rotor swap like that found on Ferrari's and Porsche's, those brake systems are stock at 34-36mm thick and can get a straight rotor/pad swap out.
Hey Tom, thank you for that information. The picture you posted certainly shows a thick rotor, but I didn't realize they had to be that thick.

And the notion of taking them with you car to car certainly makes sense.

[ZZZZZR1]

Tom,

That brake upgrade is amazing!!!!!!

Thanks for posting pictures!

:cheers:

David

[TFENT]

Tom,

That brake upgrade is amazing!!!!!!

Thanks for posting pictures!

:cheers:

David

David:

Thank you for the phone conversation. I look forward to continuing it.

I honestly did not want to turn this into any type of advertisement because we do not sell enough MovIt systems to ZR-1 owners to warrant being a vendor on the forum. I am a 1990 ZR-1 owner and love this community, love the friends I have built here, and love this forum that I am personally addicted to.

In short I will say this and I tell my perspective clients this all the time. The MovIt system is like a high performance car. It is like comparing a Ford to a Roll Royce. They both do the job of transporting people from one place to another. The MovIt's are the Roll Royce of brakes. We just do it better, we use higher quality parts, engineer and manufacture each piece per the required order, ect, ect. I can point out all the differences in the systems piece by piece. But as I stated, this is not an advertisement.

Lastly, the kit pictured only cost so much money because of all the additional work that went into it from the beginning. The same kit painted instead of anodized is $7,750. In the end this kit ending up costing this client well over $15K because he bought 2 sets of rear calipers.

[xlr8nflorida]

I find it ironic that you always need a dissertation.

I have had wilwood 6 piston setup and 6 piston Baer current setup on my zr-1. I also had 6 piston setup on my c5s. I've done 1/4 mile and road racing on my setups and I've driven other 6 piston setups.

I am not bad mouthing the movit setup- it's quality.

I also spoke with several professional drivers, as I'm often attending races all over the country and have some as personal friends.

If you want to buy into the whole "rolls royce" for your chevy then so be it.

When you lay out 5-15,000 for brakes I'm sure you will do your own research.

I did my extensive research and made my decision.

Tell us when you buy a set of move its :handshak:

[TFENT]

I find it ironic that you always need a dissertation.

I have had wilwood 6 piston setup and 6 piston Baer current setup on my zr-1. I also had 6 piston setup on my c5s. I've done 1/4 mile and road racing on my setups and I've driven other 6 piston setups.

I am not bad mouthing the movit setup- it's quality.

I also spoke with several professional drivers, as I'm often attending races all over the country and have some as personal friends.

If you want to buy into the whole "rolls royce" for your chevy then so be it.

When you lay out 5-15,000 for brakes I'm sure you will do your own research.

I did my extensive research and made my decision.

Tell us when you buy a set of move its :handshak:



I did buy a set... Rather several sets. That why I bought the distributorship in North America. Here they are on my Chevy...:flag2:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/ssmokybear/Impala%20SS/DSCN1095.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/ssmokybear/Impala%20SS/DSCN1109.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/ssmokybear/Impala%20SS/DSCN1102.jpg

[Aurora40]

I find it ironic that you always need a dissertation.

Actually, I already knew what your opinion was based on. It seems to be what all your opinions are based on. I just wanted to see you post it along with your criticism.

[xlr8nflorida]

I have had wilwood 6 piston setup and 6 piston Baer current setup on my zr-1. I also had 6 piston setup on my c5s. I've done 1/4 mile and road racing on my setups and I've driven other 6 piston setups. I also know the pitfalls of putting 6 piston brakes on ZR-1's.

I am not bad mouthing the movit setup- it's quality. However, you will lose your emergency brake and will have 2 calipers on your rear.
If you like that then great, I don't care for it.

I also spoke with several professional drivers, as I'm often attending races all over the country and have some as personal friends.

If you want to buy into the whole "rolls royce" for your chevy then so be it.

When you lay out 5-15,000 for brakes I'm sure you will do your own research.

I did my extensive research and made my decision.

Tell us when you buy a set of move its :handshak:

On a side note to the OP, saying the Baer 6S is a Ford and the Movits are a "Rolls Royce" is comical.

People speak with their wallets. If they feel a product is worth the extra $$ they spend it. Many people across all the high end forums say the same thing, too expensive, overpriced etc.

You get what you pay for. Sometimes you overpay.

Make your own educated decision. I can't tell you how much time I had in my research, but it was extensive. IE - I have had different 6 piston setups on my ZR-1 for 8 years. I've had coleman rotors, a bunch of others and now Eradispeed 2 piece rotors.

[xlr8nflorida]

[QUOTE=TFENT;102142]I did buy a set... Rather several sets. That why I bought the distributorship in North America. Here they are on my Chevy...:flag2:

My post was not directed to you :cheers:

[Aurora40]

I honestly did not want to turn this into any type of advertisement because we do not sell enough MovIt systems to ZR-1 owners to warrant being a vendor on the forum. I am a 1990 ZR-1 owner and love this community, love the friends I have built here, and love this forum that I am personally addicted to.

There are no requirements to be a "vendor" here as far as I know. Your post didn't come across as a sales pitch, rather some nice pictures of products you've made. I thought they were cool to see.

Also, nice Impala. Do you drive it hard? I'd guess so from the tire wear on the sway bar, plus of course the big brakes. If so, that's awesome. I don't know why, but I really like full size cars that can haul. :cheers:

[xlr8nflorida]

Actually, I already knew what your opinion was based on. It seems to be what all your opinions are based on. I just wanted to see you post it along with your criticism.


You just like to argue and your opinion is always correct. Half the time, I might add that you don't even have the parts or setup on your car but somehow you know more then others who actually own it.

Why don't you go drive some baer 6s piston setups and then drop $10,000 on a movit system?

I'm sure the performance will be so much better, that you will drop the extra $5,000 in the drop of a hat. :mrgreen:

You will have "Rolls Royce" brakes on your ZR-1.

[Aurora40]

You just like to argue and your opinion is always correct.
Maybe I missed it, what opinion did I put forth here?

[TFENT]

There are no requirements to be a "vendor" here as far as I know. Your post didn't come across as a sales pitch, rather some nice pictures of products you've made. I thought they were cool to see.

Also, nice Impala. Do you drive it hard? I'd guess so from the tire wear on the sway bar, plus of course the big brakes. If so, that's awesome. I don't know why, but I really like full size cars that can haul. :cheers:

Yes I hammer on it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi4xEZTg5YQ

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/ssmokybear/Impala%20SS/ISSCA_AutoCross_Race_A_011.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/ssmokybear/Impala%20SS/ISSCA_Pocono_Track_Modified_184-1.jpg

[rhipsher]

Nice Eye Candy. Cylons like shiny brake systems. But 10K is way too tuff. Not for sanjay.:mrgreen:

[USAFPILOT]

I like em...ALOT. If I had 10K to toss around I would go for them.

[RICKYRJ1]

I did buy a set... Rather several sets. That why I bought the distributorship in North America. Here they are on my Chevy...:flag2:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/ssmokybear/Impala%20SS/DSCN1095.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/ssmokybear/Impala%20SS/DSCN1109.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/ssmokybear/Impala%20SS/DSCN1102.jpg

That car is bad azzz! I gotta ask, where did you get that hub stand in the second pic? You all know I have to have one.
Those Movit brakes are sweeeet! Mark H. did a bling set like that several years ago on a low mile Z. Nice Job! Thanks for sharing :cheers:

[FU]

Where in GOD'S name do you stow the anchor on that thing ?

[A26B]

Tom,
Thanks for posting the ZR-1 bling brakes and the pictures of the ceramic rotors. Personally, I really enjoyed getting to see the cars, hearing the background story and the technical info. It was obvious that the ZR-1 brakes were a one-off, custom item. As one would expect, the associated cost is commesurate with the results. Obviously, the customer thought it was a fair price and in the final analysis, that is all that matters.

For one, I sincerely hope you do not allow any negative comments to discourage you from posting more on the forums. My telephone conversation with you a few months ago was fascinating, especially regarding the ceramic brakes. Thanks for joining us. Your expertise is appreciated.

PS, I hope you got your ZR-1 problems sorted out. :wave:

[todesengel]

Very, very nice looking quality pieces.

I like quality pieces, matter of fact I have a 1500.00 titanium strut tower bar on one of my cars :D.

When I get my gto together I just may have to give you a call about a setup. What is the lead time for a custom deal?

Thanks

[TFENT]

Very, very nice looking quality pieces.

I like quality pieces, matter of fact I have a 1500.00 titanium strut tower bar on one of my cars :D.

When I get my gto together I just may have to give you a call about a setup. What is the lead time for a custom deal?

Thanks

Usually 6-8 weeks. It depends on the difficulty and if we have done this setup before.

[todesengel]

Usually 6-8 weeks. It depends on the difficulty and if we have done this setup before.

Thank you. It would be going on a 72 gto. I guess when I get closer I will need to seriously talk with you about it before I order my wheels. It will probably be pretty bland when it makes its run to bg.

[TFENT]

Very, very nice looking quality pieces.

I like quality pieces, matter of fact I have a 1500.00 titanium strut tower bar on one of my cars :D.

When I get my gto together I just may have to give you a call about a setup. What is the lead time for a custom deal?

Thanks

We are available most any time my friend. When your ready give me a shout. Would love to talk to you.

[todesengel]

We are available most any time my friend. When your ready give me a shout. Would love to talk to you.

We have done business before. You know I wont trouble you until I am ready to pull the trigger :cheers:

[W i l l]

One of Guido's first quests was to put Porsche brakes on his ZR-1 back in the day. I met him at Camp LT5 in England when he had just done that. He then started selling the brakes as Mov-it and several ZR-1 owners bought from him. I had no idea that Mov-it had gotten so big! It is nice that they are still doing ZR-1 brakes.

Will

[TFENT]

One of Guido's first quests was to put Porsche brakes on his ZR-1 back in the day. I met him at Camp LT5 in England when he had just done that. He then started selling the brakes as Mov-it and several ZR-1 owners bought from him. I had no idea that Mov-it had gotten so big! It is nice that they are still doing ZR-1 brakes.

Will

Guido still owns those Corvettes too. He had one up to 203mph on the freeway and video taped it. MovIt is huge now and we sponsor the Renault Team in F1. Guido has been and always will be a genius in my book. He now is the lead engineer with MovIt. Lets someone else handle the business end of things.

[todesengel]

I'm ready to move forward. What number do I contact you at?

Thanks

[TFENT]

I'm ready to move forward. What number do I contact you at?

Thanks

858.883.2655

[todesengel]

You will receive a call from me tomorrow. Thanks

[TFENT]

You will receive a call from me tomorrow. Thanks

I am available now if you wish. I would prefer tonight to get all your vehicle information so i may send it off to Germany to see what we can offer.

[todesengel]

I have heard nothing since 01/31.

I am getting close to putting this thing back together so I am going to move forward with putting my own brake kit together for this thing. I need to finalize my wheel order by Wednesday to make sure I get them in time.

I appreciate the help, but I am too time pressed to wait any longer. Like I had mentioned in our telephone call I want the car done before BG, and it seems like we will now be out of the time scope from your previous explanation on time required.

[xlr8nflorida]

I'd go with the Baer 6S setup. I have it and it rocks.

Baer has good customer support and technical help.


http://www.baer.com/information/line_images/EXTREME-PLUS_lg.jpg

[TFENT]

I have heard nothing since 01/31.

I am getting close to putting this thing back together so I am going to move forward with putting my own brake kit together for this thing. I need to finalize my wheel order by Wednesday to make sure I get them in time.

I appreciate the help, but I am too time pressed to wait any longer. Like I had mentioned in our telephone call I want the car done before BG, and it seems like we will now be out of the time scope from your previous explanation on time required.

Robert:

Email sent. We are doing the drawings as we speak...

[todesengel]

I'd go with the Baer 6S setup. I have it and it rocks.


http://www.baer.com/information/line_images/EXTREME-PLUS_lg.jpg

They are indeed nice brakes. Tom contacted me and told me they are in final drawing phase, so I am going to see what they come up with.

If all else fails all options will be on the table.

Thanks

[TFENT]

UPDATE:

After spending the last couple of days with the founder/head engineer Guido and the President of MovIt, Frank. We discussed this GTO project in depth and they want to make a special kit for Robert (todesengel). Robert has informed me this morning that he will be showing and drag racing the GTO so we have recommended he run the super powerful and light weight Ceramic CER system. The front will be a 370mm kit with a 6 piston Billet Caliper and on the rear will be a CER 342mm kit with a 4 piston Billet Caliper. This will be the first Classic American Muscle Car in the world with the Ceramic CER system installed. The calipers will be painted any color he wishes to have them done in and will save him approx 15lbs at each corner.

In addition we have also just taken an order for a 342mm 6 piston Billet front and 342mm 4 piston Billet systems in Red from a Z brother for his 1991 ZR-1. Pictures of that system when completed and installed to follow asap.

Here are some photos of the system.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/Ceramic%20Brakes/CER_Anlage4_0408.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/Ceramic%20Brakes/CER_40er-Scheibe-2_0352_M.jpg

[RICKYRJ1]

UPDATE:

After spending the last couple of days with the founder/head engineer Guido and the President of MovIt, Frank. We discussed this GTO project in depth and they want to make a special kit for Robert (todesengel). Robert has informed me this morning that he will be showing and drag racing the GTO so we have recommended he run the super powerful and light weight Ceramic CER system. The front will be a 370mm kit with a 6 piston Billet Caliper and on the rear will be a CER 342mm kit with a 4 piston Billet Caliper. This will be the first Classic American Muscle Car in the world with the Ceramic CER system installed. The calipers will be painted any color he wishes to have them done in and will save him approx 15lbs at each corner.

In addition we have also just taken an order for a 342mm 6 piston Billet front and 342mm 4 piston Billet systems in Red from a Z brother for his 1991 ZR-1. Pictures of that system when completed and installed to follow asap.

Here are some photos of the system.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/Ceramic%20Brakes/CER_Anlage4_0408.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/Ceramic%20Brakes/CER_40er-Scheibe-2_0352_M.jpg


SWEEEET!

[USAFPILOT]

Are they going to be ceramic brakes on the ZR-1?

[TFENT]

Are they going to be ceramic brakes on the ZR-1?

No, this brother Z member decided on the steel system.