Anyone installed Baer 6P brakes?

[1991ZR1]

Baer is having a sale on Friday and I was considering getting the 6P system for both the front and rear. The application list shows that they do not have the rears with parking brake. It says "uses OE park". I called Baer and asked about it and they said that it wouldn't work because the rotor is too thick.

I guess it's a long shot but has anyone installed these brakes and what did you do about the parking brake?

Does anyone know if there are any similar brake systems with parking brake?

Thanks for any information.

[RICKYRJ1]

Look up Street Shop in Athens, Alabama they make a peice that converts the e-brake to a C5-C6 hub setup. I'm doing mine now

[GOLDCYLON]

Baer is having a sale on Friday and I was considering getting the 6P system for both the front and rear. The application list shows that they do not have the rears with parking brake. It says "uses OE park". I called Baer and asked about it and they said that it wouldn't work because the rotor is too thick.

I guess it's a long shot but has anyone installed these brakes and what did you do about the parking brake?

Does anyone know if there are any similar brake systems with parking brake?

Thanks for any information.


Bob did had an issue getting them to work right

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6528&highlight=Baer+install

[-=Jeff=-]

Look up Street Shop in Athens, Alabama they make a peice that converts the e-brake to a C5-C6 hub setup. I'm doing mine now

Pics:


http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z2/noCOPOva/DCP_5302.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z2/noCOPOva/DCP_5298.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z2/noCOPOva/DCP_5296.jpg



C6Z rear brakes mounted on C4 knuckle with parking brake.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z2/noCOPOva/DCP_5288.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z2/noCOPOva/DCP_5291.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z2/noCOPOva/DCP_5287.jpg

[Scrrem]

I'm guessing that this setup will not fit behind stock A-molds?

Rich

[Aurora40]

Baer is having a sale on Friday and I was considering getting the 6P system for both the front and rear. The application list shows that they do not have the rears with parking brake. It says "uses OE park". I called Baer and asked about it and they said that it wouldn't work because the rotor is too thick.

I guess it's a long shot but has anyone installed these brakes and what did you do about the parking brake?

Does anyone know if there are any similar brake systems with parking brake?

Thanks for any information.
I have the fronts, they fit fine under A-molds (mine are AFS, not OEM). For the rear I used their +2 kit which has a 13" rotor and a relocating bracket for the stock caliper. That way the e-brake still works. I also used a DRM bias spring to help offset the front bias added by the 6-piston fronts.

I didn't know Baer made a rear setup with the 6P, though they said they were planning it back when it first came out.

Are you going to this upgrade for looks? Or performance?

I don't know what their black friday prices will be, but FYI I bought the front set for about $1,000. I then spend about another $900 on rotors for two-piece front and rear, with the rears being the 13" size with relocation bracket I already mentioned. With taxes, etc, I was in just about exactly $2k. You could actually get slotted/drilled rotors for less, as they are more common (list price is more, but more places like Summit sell them on discount). I had to have the plain rotors ordered.

I bought it all through Mark Stein at Motor Sport Image: http://motorsportimage.com/ They were also helpful post-sales (as were Baer) when I had problems. The kits now should be pretty problem-free and should come with banjo bolts that fit properly.

[Aurora40]

Pictures:

Front

http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq40/aurora402002/two-piece%20rotors/DSC00729.jpg

Rear

http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq40/aurora402002/two-piece%20rotors/DSC00466.jpg

[scholtmj]

Pictures:

Front

http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq40/aurora402002/two-piece%20rotors/DSC00729.jpg

Rear

http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq40/aurora402002/two-piece%20rotors/DSC00466.jpg

Look'n good! Those rear rotors do a better job of filling up the wheel. Depending on how good Baer's Friday sale is, I might grab this same setup. Are you pleased with the performance? Did the front brakes change the brake pedal feel at all?

[Aurora40]

Look'n good! Those rear rotors do a better job of filling up the wheel. Depending on how good Baer's Friday sale is, I might grab this same setup. Are you pleased with the performance? Did the front brakes change the brake pedal feel at all?
I wrote up a more complete description in HotB issue 21. As far as pleased with the performance, I was pleased with the stock setup after adding decent pads.

The pedal feel is long, but then it was never very short. No one else who's driven my car has felt the pedal was unusually long. I think it all the time now, because the pedal in my CTS is so much shorter by comparison.

If I had my money back, I would not buy the brakes again. But that's not to say they are bad, or a bad deal. The stock stuff works perfectly well. And of course now there are upgrades like the C6Z stuff for cheap, which has much larger rotors.

The Baer 6P caliper can't fit bigger than a 1.1" wide rotor. I don't know what goes on the rear, but the fronts use the stock rotor. That said, many Wilwood kits also use 1.1" rotors. It's not so much that it's small, it's just not big.

[Aurora40]

I should add, there are definitely nice things about the 6P setup. They use C5-C6 sized pads, so there is a lot of selection. They use stock rotors, so there is a lot of selection. You won't be stuck down the road with having to buy everything from Baer.

The caliper and bracket weight about the same, maybe slightly less, than the stock caliper and caliper bracket. Yet they are much larger.

The caliper has internal passages, so there is no rigid brake line running across the caliper halves, and there is only one bleed screw vs one per side. This makes bleeding easier, and it adds visual appeal (and easier cleaning).

[1991ZR1]

Thanks for everybody's responses.

Look up Street Shop in Athens, Alabama they make a peice that converts the e-brake to a C5-C6 hub setup. I'm doing mine now

If I understand this, does this adapt the C6, Z06 brakes to the C4? Also on the other forum there was mention that this requires 18" wheels. Is there a template available to see if it will fit my wheels? I have 18" HRE 445R wheels which have the valve stem inside from the spokes so I don't know if it will cause any clearance issues. Those wheels are shaped like a tube so there may be additional space compared to more conventional designs. Do you know what the whole set up would cost? Does it require any permanent modifications?

It looks like the Z06 brakes and the Movit brakes on the other thread are the only ones that would have a parking brake. The Movit brakes it seems would cost over $16,000.

The purpose for this upgrade is purely for looks. I don't do any racing.

[RICKYRJ1]

Thanks for everybody's responses.



If I understand this, does this adapt the C6, Z06 brakes to the C4? Also on the other forum there was mention that this requires 18" wheels. Is there a template available to see if it will fit my wheels? I have 18" HRE 445R wheels which have the valve stem inside from the spokes so I don't know if it will cause any clearance issues. Those wheels are shaped like a tube so there may be additional space compared to more conventional designs. Do you know what the whole set up would cost? Does it require any permanent modifications?

It looks like the Z06 brakes and the Movit brakes on the other thread are the only ones that would have a parking brake. The Movit brakes it seems would cost over $16,000.

The purpose for this upgrade is purely for looks. I don't do any racing.

Yes it adapts the Z06 brakes to our Z's, it is a quality peice of machining. I will take some measurements when I get her done. On Jeff's pic (post #4) you can see the brake shoes that will be the ebrake on the inside of the rotors. You will have to change to longer brake lines & you will need to make the ebrake cable longer as well. The whole setup cost me around $1600.00 so far (cals, rotors, & adapter) I still have to buy the new brake lines

[scholtmj]

Yes it adapts the Z06 brakes to our Z's, it is a quality peice of machining. I will take some measurements when I get her done. On Jeff's pic (post #4) you can see the brake shoes that will be the ebrake on the inside of the rotors. You will have to change to longer brake lines & you will need to make the ebrake cable longer as well. The whole setup cost me around $1600.00 so far (cals, rotors, & adapter) I still have to buy the new brake lines

You must have got the last set Street Shop had. I called them yesterday and the next batch of adapters is 4 weeks out.

The adapters with parking brake, no cable, are ~$700.

How are you fixing the parking brake issue? Get a longer cable or lengthening the stock one?