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A26B
11-22-2010, 08:14 AM
While I was at the SGC Gathering last Saturday, Aaron & I were visiting about an LT5 engine in his shop. Aaron said the story is that the engine was acquired from Geoff Jeal by an Air Force Pilot who was stationed in England and became friends with Geoff. Aaron believes the engine came from a pearl white ZR-1 (the only white one) that was part of the ZR-1 European press release group.

If the car is still in existence, Aaron would like to see the engine reunited with the car. The VIN or MM # was not accessible at the time, but Aaron could get it for an interested party.

Any information appreciated. Please contact Aaron Scott at South Georgia Corvette in Thomasville, GA

Corvettes White
11-22-2010, 12:15 PM
I believe the car has been restored. George

-=Jeff=-
11-22-2010, 12:52 PM
that isn't the Pearl white car that Joe Roebuck owned is it?

94Admiral
11-22-2010, 03:07 PM
Although I am quite sure the car has been repainted and was not originally pearl white, Marc Haibeck just finished up a pearl white 368 at his shop. It resides somewhere in Illinois. The car had to be rebuilt as it had Jeal cams.....and you know the rest of that story.....

If that is the one, Marc will know where it is.

Corvettes White
11-22-2010, 04:02 PM
I believe this is the car in question. George

1989ZR1#74
11-22-2010, 04:42 PM
There were:
6 1989 31U Arctic Pearl Pilot ZR-1s:

#06
#11
#14 (Car pictured above)
#15
#16 was a press used car
#17

There was at least 1 31U Arctic Pearl 1989 Active prototype:

#25

There were at least 4 1989 non pilot 10U Arctic White (not pearl) 1989 ZR-1s

#40 (now ZR-12)
#46
#72
#76

The LT5 for #14 was known to exist and was seperated from #14 so that sounds like the most likely source. I do not know who currently owns it. I do not believe any of the France European press cars were white. So this must have been used prior to the France PR fleet.

Blue Flame Restorations
11-22-2010, 04:53 PM
If the P number for the car can be found, I may be able to match the engine with the car number IF my data goes forward that far.

1989ZR1#74
11-22-2010, 05:01 PM
Brett, The "P" number for #014 was/is P9Y032

scholtmj
11-22-2010, 05:36 PM
#76 (Exists but now in limbo)


I think I've seen reference to "limbo" a couple times on the forum. Can someone explain the situation or is that too sensitive for a public forum?

1989ZR1#74
11-22-2010, 05:39 PM
I think I've seen reference to "limbo" a couple times on the forum. Can someone explain the situation or is that too sensitive for a public forum?

#76 turned up recently. I have used that term twice. Only because it is for sale, and I wasn't sure if it sold yet. Nothing sinister...

Tyler Townsley
11-22-2010, 07:46 PM
that isn't the Pearl white car that Joe Roebuck owned is it?

It is Joe's old car recreated by Gene Tucker in 1996. s/n 14. The car is currently owned by someone in In or Ill. He is aware of the correct motor at SCG but is not interested.

Tyler

Blue Flame Restorations
11-22-2010, 07:51 PM
What version of the motor is it? Phase???????

Tyler Townsley
11-22-2010, 08:00 PM
What version of the motor is it? Phase???????

All 89 motors were Phase 3. The Phase 2 motors were used only in the 88s. Phase 1s were used in the 86 mules. What the heck you got the 'book'.

Tyler

Blue Flame Restorations
11-22-2010, 08:21 PM
The Book only goes to Jan88. :razz:

Tyler Townsley
11-22-2010, 08:32 PM
The Book only goes to Jan88. :razz:

Anything after that date was built at MM in a production environment. The information in that document was used to decide wether or not to continue the LT-5 into production. It does not get any better in the documentation of the prototype phase of the ZR-1 project.

Tyler.

Blue Flame Restorations
11-22-2010, 09:00 PM
That's why I was so excited that Geoff gave me the book. I figured if I was going to buy the 88, and it wasn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination, I wanted as much documentation as I could get. And I got a heap of it!

Having one of only two atcual true prototype ZR1's means alot to me. And to bring it back from the dead is the whole adventure of it all.

The "book" was just icing on the cake. :notworthy

1989ZR1#74
11-22-2010, 09:44 PM
All 89 motors were Phase 3. The Phase 2 motors were used only in the 88s. Phase 1s were used in the 86 mules. What the heck you got the 'book'.

Tyler

Tyler Tyler Tyler, I thought I did a better job training you on these "new ones" but there were both Phase III and Phase IV LT-5s in 1989. This one I suspect (if #014) is a Phase III, starting with #40 they were putting Phase IVs in the 1989s In fact from #55 on they were almost identical internally to the production 90s (with some exceptions) #004 has a Phase III with the machined PCV stuff and #058 and #074 have Phase IV "rubber boot" PCV setup LT5s.

#014 would have been produced in 03/1988.


Eric

phrogs
11-23-2010, 12:58 AM
I think I've seen reference to "limbo" a couple times on the forum. Can someone explain the situation or is that too sensitive for a public forum?

In the theology of the Catholic Church (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Catholic_theology), Limbo (Latin limbus (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/limbus), edge or boundary, referring to the "edge" of Hell (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Hell)) is a speculative idea about the afterlife (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Afterlife) condition of those who die in original sin (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Original_sin) without being assigned to the Hell of the damned. Limbo is not an official doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Church) or any other. Medieval theologians described the underworld ("hell", "hades (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Hades)", "infernum") as divided into four distinct parts: hell of the damned (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Hell) (which some call Gehenna (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Gehenna)), Purgatory (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Purgatory), limbo of the fathers, and limbo of infants.

Tyler Townsley
11-23-2010, 08:45 AM
In the theology of the Catholic Church (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Catholic_theology), Limbo (Latin limbus (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/limbus), edge or boundary, referring to the "edge" of Hell (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Hell)) is a speculative idea about the afterlife (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Afterlife) condition of those who die in original sin (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Original_sin) without being assigned to the Hell of the damned. Limbo is not an official doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Roman_Catholic_Church) or any other. Medieval theologians described the underworld ("hell", "hades (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Hades)", "infernum") as divided into four distinct parts: hell of the damned (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Hell) (which some call Gehenna (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Gehenna)), Purgatory (http://www.zr1.net/wiki/Purgatory), limbo of the fathers, and limbo of infants.

Thats more than I wanted to know.http://www.zr1.net/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif
Since I used the term first I guess I might explain. The car is for sale and the owner did not want its location and info 'out there'. I wanted to note that it was known to still exist but it was up to the owner to post pictues and the story of the car. Car is still for sale but the price tag is quite high for it and the sale fell through so its fate remains confidential, ie in limbo.

Tyler

1989ZR1#74
11-23-2010, 11:06 AM
If the owner of the ZR-1 is not interested is the LT5 for sale? It might be nice to have some spare parts for the Phase III in #004.

LGAFF
11-23-2010, 07:45 PM
Whats the asking price for the car?

1989ZR1#74
11-26-2010, 12:11 PM
Whats the asking price for the car?


Let's just say it was "market" price. If you average all of the 89's sold in the last 3 years you would be very close.