Important Post from JVD-Not Re: Corvette

[vandornjim]

So Much for the U.S. Constitution
First of all, this is no internet game. This is for real. You can see it on the news tonight.

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[DaveK]

100% with you on this Jim!

I've been watching the news of these systems coming in for a while now - wondered when people were going to start noticing and standing up for their rights.

[tccrab]

JVD:
While I agree with you in principal, the reality of it is that I'm willing to give up a little freedom to travel in relative safety.
Well, as safe as one can be at 600mph+ 30,000 feet up in the sky in a vehicle composed mainly of aluminum and plastic.
If the TSA catches just ONE crazy mofo trying to hijack or blowup or whatever an airplane, then it's worth it.
The world has changed, and the change isn't good.
I'm more than happy to put away my traveling shoes and stick close to home.

TomC
'Crabs

[gbrtng]

I'm not flying until the airline industry gets the TSB under control - and I'm betting I'm
not alone on this one.

[vandornjim]

JVD:
While I agree with you in principal, the reality of it is that I'm willing to give up a little freedom to travel in relative safety.
Well, as safe as one can be at 600mph+ 30,000 feet up in the sky in a vehicle composed mainly of aluminum and plastic.
If the TSA catches just ONE crazy mofo trying to hijack or blowup or whatever an airplane, then it's worth it.
The world has changed, and the change isn't good.
I'm more than happy to put away my traveling shoes and stick close to home.

TomC
'Crabs
I'm suspecting you don't fly much there Crabby? Have you any nice young daughters to protect from Gov't certified Goons who can see them, touch them, feel their soft tender bodies like only Pakistani immagrant can do?:confused:


YOu ain't lyin' about "change". After all, that's what he promised us and he wasn't kidding. I'm glad you're OK with it, but me? Shoot, I'm just a dumb 'ol Pirate. If I'm going rabbit hunting, I don't go out in a boat in the middle of a lake. If I'm hunting some lunatic terrorist hell bent on destroying the American way? Well, I can pretty much tell you what they'll look like. JUst take a look at all 21 of them so far.

I'm not sure, maybe I'm just plain stupid, but I don't think they'll be my daughter who has lived here all her life, graduated from a Christian college and teaches Sunday school. Maybe I'm just dumb.

I always did have some doubts about my mother in law though....:icon_scra

You know, here in KY we carry guns if we want. The crooks think twice, maybe three times before messing with someone carrying a 45. In California, we had the strictist gun laws in the country. You also have the most inmates and most violent crime, gangs, drivebys, etc.etc.etc.

I'm just thinking, just thinking, that maybe an American citizen who meets all the criteria, might also skip with grope and photo test.

Let's just hope one thing. That Bin Ladin doesn't send over one of his buddies with something shoved up his kazoo. Our goons at TSA will have a field day. :jawdrop:

[FU]

The Constitution will soon be changed from "We the people" to "We the sheepole"
We sure live in a screwed up world these days.

[vandornjim]

The Constitution will soon be changed from "We the people" to "We the sheepole"
We sure live in a screwed up world these days.

We just need to get people in there who will call a spade a spade.

This is the most rediculous thing I've ever seen. EVER!

You telling me TSA can't run a reservation ahead of time and approve a person by background information? How stupid is it to screen pilots? Oh yeah, they reversed that stupid idea in a day didn't they? YOu wanna know why? Because the pilots told them too or else!

When I was a cop I couldn't do to Felons what they are doing to 13 year old. Oops, that's a minor under 16, double FELONY!

If there are those out there who don't see anythig wrong with asking Americans to submit to sexual assault, if they don't mind watching their daughters being felt by a nice young lad from Budapest, then I think they SHOULD have a line for them at the airport.

WAIT! I GOT IT!
Let's have lines for AMericans who agree with TSA and offer them options!
I can see the signs now:
"LIGHT TOUCH PAT DOWN" or maybe HEAVY GROPING.

Let's not forget "DOUBLE BREAST WITH A TWIST"....


Rediculous...frikkin crazy. Not on my watch.

[vandornjim]

The Constitution will soon be changed from "We the people" to "We the sheepole"
We sure live in a screwed up world these days.

The Saga of Osama
Bin Ladin sits on his favorite rock outside his cave in Hunga Bunga. He overlooks the valley full of poppies and men raping sheep.

His favorite boy comes rushing in, "MASTER! MASTER! We've done it!"

With that he turns on the satellite. As CBS comes on, they show a nice American teenage woman, smartly dressed, standing erect as the dark haired TSA agent rubs under her breasts and then inside her shapely thighs.

TSA Chief John Pistol, standing next to his domestic partner, smiles as he boasts there will be no adjustment in his policy, after all, Ms Napolitano and the President all approve of it. He says to all of Americans. We don't care what YOU think. WE are the government and WE know better than you.

"They ARE Infidels, just like you said Master!"

Osama smiles says, "You see my son, it was once written about David and Goliath."

"David used a common rock. But we have now frightened the greatest military power on this Earth into submission with a tennis shoe and Uncle Ali's underwear. We have caused them to spend several trillion dollars to defend against us, and all we do is occasionally send a package UPS. Maybe next time we will go Fed Ex, after all, we need to be fair."

(young lad sits listening intently)

"We can beat our own wives into submission whenever we want, but we never allow our women to be touched by another."

"So what do we do to them next, oh mighty Father?"? the boys asks.

Osama looks towards the small herd of sheep wondering which one he wants next.

"Nothing, my son. We have planted the seed, now they will do it to themselves. After all, we all know there is no such things as a "Land of the Free".

[Hammer]

Pretty pathetic ain't it?

Be nice to get a President and Congress with some balls and just level that ******' place over there.

[vandornjim]

Pretty pathetic ain't it?

Be nice to get a President and Congress with some balls and just level that ******' place over there.


I've got an idea. HOW ABOUT THIS GUY!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu8dRfgNxGM&feature=related

[FU]

I've got an idea. HOW ABOUT THIS GUY!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu8dRfgNxGM&feature=related


He makes too much sense and has a firm grip on the reality.

[vandornjim]

He makes too much sense and has a firm grip on the reality.

You're right once again. What was I thinking....

[GOLDCYLON]

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/7400477-video-the-funny-side-of-serious-snl-skit-on-the-new-tsa-body-patdown-at-airports


http://jaredcaldwell.xanga.com/videos/0b7ea826150

[gbrtng]

I've got an idea. HOW ABOUT THIS GUY!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu8dRfgNxGM&feature=related

More here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_West_(politician)

A no nonsense kind of guy - so now you know the rest of the story ...
:saluting:

[scholtmj]

http://www.pjorourke.com/

I'd love to hear his State of the Union address. Love his books too.

[John Boothby]

From Wikipedia on EL AL:

As a target for many decades, El Al employs stringent security procedures, both on the ground and on board its aircraft. These effective, though sometimes controversial, procedures have won El Al a reputation for security.[36] In 2008, the airline was named by Global Traveler magazine as the world's most secure airline.[37]

[edit] Airport security measures
Passengers are asked to report three hours before departure. All El Al terminals around the world are closely monitored for security. There are plain-clothes agents and fully armed police or military personnel who patrol the premises for explosives, suspicious behavior, and other threats. Inside the terminal, passengers and their baggage are checked by a trained team. El Al security procedures require that all passengers be interviewed individually prior to boarding, allowing El Al staff to identify possible security threats. Passengers will be asked questions about where they are coming from, the reason for their trip, their job or occupation, and whether they have packed their bags themselves. The likelihood of potential terrorists remaining calm under such questioning is believed to be low (see microexpression).[38]

At the check-in counter, passengers' passports and tickets are closely examined. A ticket without a sticker from the security checkers will not be accepted. At passport control passengers' names are checked against information from the FBI, Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), Scotland Yard, Shin Bet, and Interpol databases. Luggage is screened and sometimes hand searched. In addition, bags are put through a decompression chamber simulating pressures during flight that could trigger explosives.[39] El Al is the only airline in the world that passes all luggage through such a chamber.[40] Even at overseas airports, El Al security agents conduct all luggage searches personally, even if they are supervised by government or private security firms.[41]

[edit] Flight security measures

An El Al Boeing 777 landing at London Heathrow Airport. (2005)Undercover agents (sometimes referred to as sky marshals) carrying concealed firearms sit among the passengers on every international El Al flight.[42] All El Al pilots are former Israeli Air Force pilots.[43] The cockpits in all El Al aircraft have double doors to prevent entry by unauthorized persons. A code is required to access the doors, and the second door will only be opened after the first has closed and the person has been identified by the captain or first officer.[43] Furthermore, there are reinforced steel floors separating the passenger cabin from the baggage hold.[44]

Following an attempt to shoot down an Israeli airliner in 2002,[45] all aircraft in the fleet have been equipped with an infrared countermeasures system called Flight Guard, developed by Israeli Aerospace Industries to defend them against anti-aircraft missiles.[46][47][48][49] Although comparable systems such as CAMPS are now available for civilian aircraft, there is no information to date about any other airlines deploying such a system. Switzerland and other European countries have expressed concern that flares dropped by the Israeli system could cause fires in the vicinity of an airport.[50]

[edit] Security controversy and passenger profiling
Critics of El Al note that its security checks on passengers include racial profiling[51] and have argued that such profiling is unfair, irrational, and degrading to those subject to such screening. Supporters of El Al argue that there is nothing inherently racist about passenger profiling and that special scrutiny of Muslims may often be necessary for security purposes.[citation needed]

The airline was also criticized by the Hungarian courts for refusing to search luggage with the passenger present, acting against Hungarian domestic laws which stipulate that only authorized officials are able to undertake such searches.[51] A civil case was brought to the Supreme Court of Israel on 19 March 2008 alleging that El Al's practice of ethnic profiling singles out Arabs for tougher treatment.[52]

[FU]

Fuel for the fire : http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=6687

[vandornjim]

The TSA has once again modified it's screening procedures to now include children under 12. Really? I wonder what a child thinks when a stranger touches them where they have been taught no stranger should touch them....WHILE THEIR PARENTS STAND THERE AND WATCH.

SHAME ON THEM. TALK ABOUT SHEEP??? I'd be in jail....but Mr TSA Mohamed would be in the hospital.


Fuel for the fire : http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=6687

"The TSA defends the procedures as necessary in light of last years "underwear bomber"

My, my. It only took the TSA a year to come up with this "procedure". He hid something in his clothes? STRIP SEARCH!! Some "procedure".

WHy didn't they simply ask him his purpose for a visit when he boarded NORTHWorst AIRLINES over in Amsterdamn? And maybe when his hands started shaking...ask him to sing Jingle Bells...:rolleyes:

"and the recent issues involving printer cartridges being used in an attempt to blow up cargo planes."

Why of course! scanning our naked bodies and patting us down will for sure stop those printer cartidge bombs on a UPS plane.

Me thinks like this:
The airline industry has been in trouble since de-regulation. Their fare prices have skyrocketed, they all but ignore their frequent flyers, they charge frivolous fees for bags, food, just about everything, but they offer us the rewarding experiences of standing in long lines to check in, then getting the opportunity to reveal ourselves to security, be completely disarmed and dependent upon their "security", then sit on the tarmack for hours. Then we get to do it all over AGAIN.

Me thinks if airports don't kick TSA's *** out of their faciities and start using common sense, the airlines are history.

Buy a webcam...and a Toyota.

[scholtmj]

Solution TO TSA

Here's a solution to all the controversy over full-body scanners at the airports:

All we need to do is develop a booth that you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have hidden on or in your body. The explosion will be contained within the sealed booth.


This would be a win-win for everyone. There would be none of this crap about racial profiling and the device would eliminate long and expensive trials.



This is so simple that it's brilliant. I can see it now: You're in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system, "Attention standby passengers we now have a seat available on flight number..."

[GOLDCYLON]

Solution TO TSA


Here's a solution to all the controversy over full-body scanners at the airports:

All we need to do is develop a booth that you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have hidden on or in your body. The explosion will be contained within the sealed booth.


This would be a win-win for everyone. There would be none of this crap about racial profiling and the device would eliminate long and expensive trials.



This is so simple that it's brilliant. I can see it now: You're in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system, "Attention standby passengers we now have a seat available on flight number..."



I like this idea :dancing

[bobbyhi]

Solution TO TSA


Here's a solution to all the controversy over full-body scanners at the airports:

All we need to do is develop a booth that you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have hidden on or in your body. The explosion will be contained within the sealed booth.


This would be a win-win for everyone. There would be none of this crap about racial profiling and the device would eliminate long and expensive trials.



This is so simple that it's brilliant. I can see it now: You're in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system, "Attention standby passengers we now have a seat available on flight number..."




Have to agree with Goldie... Great Idea.....:handshak:

[Wild and Blue]

Have to agree with Goldie... Great Idea.....:handshak:


Such a good idea that it has been picked up somehow by the Ralph Bristol show on 99.7 in TN.....heard it suggested on his morning show.
scholtmj, you started something.....maybe if it can be done :dontknow:, someone in the right place will get it done. How about it engineers? Does the technology exist...or are you going to have to invent it? :cheers:

[John Boothby]

How about a duel purpose booth. Both a full body scanner and microwave. If the subject has a device, just push the microwave button.:wink:

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

[DaveK]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2014102251_scanners02.html

So, if the scanners weren't an intrusion on privacy in the first place, why is this needed?