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1989ZR1#74
06-16-2010, 07:12 PM
Originally I thought that the original donor car for the ZR-32, Pictured here:

http://www.syreal.com/zr32.jpg

Was 1989 ZR-1 #055. If you attended the seminar at the Gathering you may have noted that I retracted that, and the true origins of ZR-32 where a mystery. Well I have narrowed a bit of that down.

Initially I thought that this picture:

http://www.syreal.com/89%20no%2055.jpg

Was of 1989 #055. I was told this by someone who was at the shop at the time of its creation. Upon further reviewing this picture and comparing it to the build sheet for #055 I determined that that could not possibly be true. In fact I thought the Z was DRM, but when you really look at the color you will realize it has more of an Orange appearance. That coupled with the apparent lack of "Corvette" on the cam covers and the smooth white expansion tank lead me to believe that this was in fact an 88 prototype. Most likely The Dark Orange EX5009 or EX5024.

http://www.syreal.com/DarkOrangetalledaga88small.jpg

It could also be the Flame Red EX5010 or EX5018 as seen here:

EX5018
http://www.syreal.com/88Activeprotosm.jpg

But I still could not connect the picture of the stripped 1988 Prototype ZR-1 at California Street rods to ZR-32 until today. Today I found the missing link. While searching the October 1989 issue of Hot Rod I came across this picture:

http://www.syreal.com/ZR32HotRodsm.jpg

And there you have it... An LT5 that has bare cam covers shown in the frame of the ZR-32 during the build. So the true source of ZR-32 was a tired 88 Prototype EX5009, EX5024, EX5010 or EX5018 . Not sure if that Phase II LT5 ended up powering the final version, but I hope to have that confirmed soon. Eric

1989ZR1#74
06-16-2010, 07:55 PM
I jumped back into some Street Rodder Magazines. In the March 1990 issue I found part of my answer:

http://www.syreal.com/ZR32phaseIVsm.jpg

Turns out according to the article, ZR-32 was completed the day after Thanksgiving 1989, or November 24, 1989. On that date the ZR-32 had a Phase IV LT5 installed. Note the "Corvette" on the Cam cover and the round PCV holes in the injector housing. So this had to be a post 6/15/1988 LT5.

Although ultimately the LT5 could have come from #055, I have my doubts since #055 was built the last week of January 1989 and was more than likely shipped to Geneva for the Press Intro. Dave McLellan stated all the France cars stayed in Europe. I would think a LT5 Crate motor would be a more reasonable source since they already had the 88 donor car. Hopefully I will be able to narrow down the source of the Phase IV LT5. Stay tuned.

1989ZR1#74
06-16-2010, 08:16 PM
Jumped back over to my stack of Hot Rod Magazines and found my answer.
From Gray Baskerville's "Duece of a Vette" in the April 1990 Issue :

"What's under The Lady's multipanel hood isn't your mother's Mouse motor, either. You see, Uncle Chas (Chuck Lombardo) talked Herb Fishel (Former Head of Chevrolet Product Performance Group) out of a brand-new LT5 that's the four-valve, four-cam V8 that inhabits the engine bay in the new ZR-1 Corvette plus one of those ultra-exotic 6-speed 'Vette trannies as well. And then Woody spent the rest of the year fitting all the running gear before Ron Francis (of Wire Works fame) was called upon to finalize The Lady's complex wiring system."

So there you have it ZR-32 used 1988 Prototype suspension, brake, and trim parts and a brand new crate LT5 and ZF-6....

http://www.syreal.com/zr32phaseivbsm.jpg

Tyler Townsley
06-16-2010, 08:44 PM
You get the private eye of the year award. Sure would like to know where that phase 2 motor and tranny went.

Tyler

1989ZR1#74
06-16-2010, 10:25 PM
You get the private eye of the year award. Sure would like to know where that phase 2 motor and tranny went.

Tyler


I will see what I can find out....

I should add "No 1989 ZR-1s were hurt in the creation of the ZR-32"

Blue Flame Restorations
06-17-2010, 04:20 AM
It appears that in the third picture (with a test driver holding a helmet) had a rear "disguise bra or sorts" attached to the rear bumper at some point, according to the screw holes.

1989ZR1#74
06-17-2010, 07:59 AM
It appears that in the third picture (with a test driver holding a helmet) had a rear "disguise bra or sorts" attached to the rear bumper at some point, according to the screw holes.


That was one of the Talledaga test cars. It's in the April 24, 1989 issue of Autoweek. It shows Corvette Challenge driver Bob Noakes with the car. It is either EX5009 or EX5024 since those are the only "Orange Metallic" Prototypes. Note the holes in the rear cover to hide the rectangular tail lights (see HOB page 93)

http://www.syreal.com/darkorangetalledaga882sm.jpg

W i l l
06-17-2010, 01:21 PM
Maybe the builders used a new LT5 motor in the street rod, but if so, they put the '88 water outlets and oil filter housing on it.

Will

Jumped back over to my stack of Hot Rod Magazines and found my answer.
From Gray Baskerville's "Duece of a Vette" in the April 1990 Issue :

"What's under The Lady's multipanel hood isn't your mother's Mouse motor, either. You see, Uncle Chas (Chuck Lombardo) talked Herb Fishel (Former Head of Chevrolet Product Performance Group) out of a brand-new LT5 that's the four-valve, four-cam V8 that inhabits the engine bay in the new ZR-1 Corvette plus one of those ultra-exotic 6-speed 'Vette trannies as well. And then Woody spent the rest of the year fitting all the running gear before Ron Francis (of Wire Works fame) was called upon to finalize The Lady's complex wiring system."

So there you have it ZR-32 used 1988 Prototype suspension, brake, and trim parts and a brand new crate LT5 and ZF-6....

http://www.syreal.com/zr32phaseivbsm.jpg

1989ZR1#74
06-17-2010, 02:19 PM
Good catch! I suppose they mocked it up with the Phase II so they kept those parts. The stubby coolant pipes look like they would be easier to use. Eric

Z51JEFF
09-24-2010, 04:49 AM
Back in the late 80s I saw this Metallic Orange on 2 base Corvettes.The odd thing,first I saw a coupe in a store parking lot.2 weeks later I saw a convertible parked in the same spot.I have never seen this color again anywhere.Great color.

1989ZR1#74
12-01-2010, 11:13 AM
Some documents have surfaced that show that EX5009 P8Y082 was an active suspension prototype so it was most likely not the donar car. The donar car pictured above didn't have any of the active bits. So If it was Dark Orange then it must be EX5024/P8Y095.

Blue Flame Restorations
12-01-2010, 08:04 PM
Good detective work, Eric.

POWERBRAKEBOB
05-04-2011, 02:13 AM
I have the wheels off of Serial no. 55 car installed on my 1991 ZR-1, ser. no 334. I painted the slots Turquoise Metallic to match my car, one of the 92 such cars. The casting date on all 4 wheels is 2/1/88. When I saw no. 55, it was stripped to the bone. The remaining parts, such as the brake pedal, thermostat housing, and every part I could see had special tags on them. It also had a degree wheel from the front balancer laying on the floor.
I was sure that the 32 had the engine out of that car, but not super sure. I was at SEMA when Lombardo presented the drawing to Chevrolet for the concept of the 32. Lombardo had another engine there in a crate that had been sent back to Mercury Marine to have the crankshaft machined larger for an automatic torque converter. Art Carr had done an automatic conversion in a ZR-1, but just cut the converter hub down.
I don't remember the serial no. of the purple car, but it might have been no. 3, since he had that car. I have photos of No. 3 next to my 66 427 roadster

Tyler Townsley
05-04-2011, 08:59 AM
Some documents have surfaced that show that EX5009 P8Y082 was an active suspension prototype so it was most likely not the donar car. The donar car pictured above didn't have any of the active bits. So If it was Dark Orange then it must be EX5024/P8Y095.


My build sheet shows no active bits when it was built. Any active bits had to be retrofitted.

Tyler

Z51JEFF
05-04-2011, 11:59 AM
I have the wheels off of Serial no. 55 car installed on my 1991 ZR-1, ser. no 334. I painted the slots Turquoise Metallic to match my car, one of the 92 such cars. The casting date on all 4 wheels is 2/1/88. When I saw no. 55, it was stripped to the bone. The remaining parts, such as the brake pedal, thermostat housing, and every part I could see had special tags on them. It also had a degree wheel from the front balancer laying on the floor.
I was sure that the 32 had the engine out of that car, but not super sure. I was at SEMA when Lombardo presented the drawing to Chevrolet for the concept of the 32. Lombardo had another engine there in a crate that had been sent back to Mercury Marine to have the crankshaft machined larger for an automatic torque converter. Art Carr had done an automatic conversion in a ZR-1, but just cut the converter hub down.
I don't remember the serial no. of the purple car, but it might have been no. 3, since he had that car. I have photos of No. 3 next to my 66 427 roadster

Hey Bob,glad to see you made it over.

Tyler Townsley
08-30-2011, 01:27 AM
See posts in prototype section, the mockup drive train came from P8Y084 EX5011. Note my original title says P8Y083 which is wrong.

Tyler

JP_32
03-29-2013, 01:59 AM
Upon further reviewing this picture and comparing it to the build sheet for #055 I determined that that could not possibly be true. In fact I thought the Z was DRM, but when you really look at the color you will realize it has more of an Orange appearance. That coupled with the apparent lack of "Corvette" on the cam covers and the smooth white expansion tank lead me to believe that this was in fact an 88 prototype. Most likely The Dark Orange EX5009 or EX5024.

You are right.

Hello, My name is John, This is an interesting discovery for me, as I was employed at CSR at the time, and worked together with Woody Gilmore on this project from concept to completion.

The car was in fact mocked up with the engine driveline and suspension removed from the car you have pictured which was a 1988 Prototype Mule car that was destined to be destroyed by GM. I stripped that Mule car of everything we needed from it. After which the chassis had to be returned to Detroit for destruction. I am pretty sure I've still got the Keys to that car kicking around somewhere.

The ZR-32 "give away car" project was intended to debut with the ZR-1, it took about 10 months to complete and was finished in November of 1989 for the SEMA Show in Las Vegas.

The car was in fact mocked up from the Mule car donor parts, but before final assembly a new production engine and transmission was delivered in the crate. The car was custom wired and when it was time to start it GM designed a custom prom tailored for the ZR-32. Just before the car was completed GM also delivered #74 which was painted to match and displayed together with the ZR-32. Chuck Sr. drove the purple ZR-1 for about a year before I believe it was returned to GM. As originally intended the ZR-32 was given away as a prize at the NSRA Street Rod Nationals.

The Mule car engine went into storage and I don't know where it ever ended up.

I have many pictures which I took of the project as Woody and I built it, and a couple of #74 I will post some as soon as I can.

PS. Yes CSR did build a clone of the ZZ Top Eliminator Coupe but that is the original steel Coupe built by Buffalo Motorcars in the background. It possibly could have been me working on that car also at the time of the photo. It was normally kept in the front showroom at the time.

Blue Flame Restorations
03-29-2013, 02:12 AM
Thanks so much for posting. Excellent info!

Tyler Townsley bought the motor from the mule car two yrs ago. He also bough the wheels and original tires and gave them to me. Tyler and I both own 1988 wide bodied King Of The Hill Prototypes. The only two in existence.

Brett Henderson

JP_32
03-29-2013, 02:30 AM
I can post more later if desired but below is the remains of the donor mule car after it was stripped.


http://jpshooter.com/pics/ZR-32/mule_1.jpg

http://jpshooter.com/pics/ZR-32/mule_2.jpg

Below is the finished car on display with the ZR-1 at the shop when we held a press opening prior to the SEMA Show.

http://jpshooter.com/pics/ZR-32/PressDay.jpg


I have many more construction photos I can post as time permits.

Cheers JP

JP_32
03-29-2013, 02:46 AM
He also bough the wheels and original tires and gave them to me.

You're kidding. These Wheels? That's amazing. :cheers: In this picture just for the fun of it I mounted the corvette rims to see how it would look. I really liked the look of those wheels, but BF Goodrich was supplying our tires and they did not make a 17" tire at the time, so we ended up machining our own 15" billet wheels in the same pattern to accommodate. though I really wish we could have used those original wheels. :-D

http://jpshooter.com/pics/ZR-32/mocked_up.jpg

JP_32
03-29-2013, 03:08 AM
Tyler Townsley bought the motor from the mule car two yrs ago.

Below is the motor just removed from the Mule which you can see just outside the door. The motor was nasty aluminum so we sandblasted it to clean it up some, I don't think we knew at the time if we were going to use this as the final engine or not.

http://jpshooter.com/pics/ZR-32/motor_1.jpg

Starting to Fit some mounts sitting next to the repro steel 32 Chevy roadster body.

http://jpshooter.com/pics/ZR-32/motor_2.jpg

Blue Flame Restorations
03-29-2013, 10:48 AM
You're kidding. These Wheels? That's amazing. :cheers: In this picture just for the fun of it I mounted the corvette rims to see how it would look. I really liked the look of those wheels, but BF Goodrich was supplying our tires and they did not make a 17" tire at the time, so we ended up machining our own 15" billet wheels in the same pattern to accommodate. though I really wish we could have used those original wheels. :-D

http://jpshooter.com/pics/ZR-32/mocked_up.jpg


Yep, they're sitting in my shop. They will go on EX5023 (1988 prototype) once I restore the wheels. The Goodyear tires even have NOT FOR SALE molded into the sidewalls since they were prototype 315's.

Z51JEFF
03-29-2013, 11:04 AM
PS. Yes CSR did build a clone of the ZZ Top Eliminator Coupe but that is the original steel Coupe built by Buffalo Motorcars in the background. It possibly could have been me working on that car also at the time of the photo. It was normally kept in the front showroom at the time.

Buffolo Motor Cars,havent heard that name in a long time.One if not the nicest car Ive ever seen was the AMBR 1986 winner built by this shop,a 34 Roadster I believe it was.

Hog
03-29-2013, 01:37 PM
Excellent history here gentlemen, keep it coming if possible.

Did ZR-32 ever get sent down an 1/8 th or 1/4 mile? Did it ever have any sort of performance testing performed?

I thought the rims looked a tad odd on ZR-32, esp. when parked nose to nose with a ZR-1.

Thanks


peace
Hog

1989ZR1#74
03-29-2013, 02:07 PM
JP, Nice updates. I currently own #074 and the info about Chuck Sr. driving it for a year was news to me. AIf you have any more pictures of #074 I would love to see them. Thanks Eric Jackson

Blue Flame Restorations
03-29-2013, 02:10 PM
Great to see you're doing ok these days, Eric!!

1989ZR1#74
03-29-2013, 02:11 PM
I can post more later if desired but below is the remains of the donor mule car after it was stripped.


http://jpshooter.com/pics/ZR-32/mule_1.jpg

http://jpshooter.com/pics/ZR-32/mule_2.jpg




P8Y084 was EX5011 VIN: 1G1YY2187J5100055 So the car was #55 but 1988 #55 not 1989. So the legend was partialy true. This was a selective ride prototype. The camera makes the color look orangy but in reality this was a 81U Bright Red car with saddle leather seats. I do not have an "intact" picture of EX5011 that I know of yet. Eric

1989ZR1#74
03-29-2013, 02:16 PM
Great to see you're doing ok these days, Eric!!

all it takes is new ZR32 info and a picture of #074 to bring me back from the dead!

Blue Flame Restorations
03-29-2013, 02:18 PM
all it takes is new ZR32 info and a picture of #074 to bring me back from the dead!


We've missed you

JP_32
03-29-2013, 07:17 PM
Buffolo Motor Cars,havent heard that name in a long time.One if not the nicest car Ive ever seen was the AMBR 1986 winner built by this shop,a 34 Roadster I believe it was.

Yes! Jim McNamara's 33 Ford Roadster, amazing car. I also worked a little bit on that car later on before he sold it I think around 91 or so. I also worked on Building a Turquoise 46 Ford Convertible for Jim.

JP_32
03-29-2013, 07:27 PM
Did ZR-32 ever get sent down an 1/8 th or 1/4 mile? Did it ever have any sort of performance testing performed?

Yes, Road and Track magazine took the ZR-32 out for a full performance review, I think I remember both road course and Drag tests were done. I should still have a copy of the magazine in my archives.

JP, Nice updates. I currently own #074 and the info about Chuck Sr. driving it for a year was news to me. AIf you have any more pictures of #074 I would love to see them. Thanks Eric Jackson

I do have one closer Picture of #074. I will be traveling this weekend, but when I return I will post some more pictures.

Tyler Townsley
03-29-2013, 10:05 PM
http://thepandatrap.com/tyler/misc/885100055.bmp

This is the build sheet for EX5011 and it is not an active suspension car. Way too early, as far as I know there were no active cars in the 87 run of KOH cars, at least none of them have it on the build sheets. I believe the selective ride vehicle refers to the first FX 3 cars. I will ask Geoff this weekend.

JP I got to ask about the transmission, the one I got from with the engine and wheels (see the thread on Queenies engine story) was an 1989 build date. From this I surmise you left the trans from EX5011 in the roadster and just replaced the engine since it would not have been visible, true?

Do you have the ecm from EX5011? How about the DIS module from under the plenum. He gave me what he claimed was the ecm from the car but it is a LT4 ecm. The items I mentioned are very rare and if possible I would like to acquire them. You need to read the Queenie threads as they intermingle information on all the prototypes together. May I post the photographs here with your explanation? It will help make our knowledge better. Do you remember who came from GM and wired the Z32 car?

http://thepandatrap.com/gallery/ZR-1s

Check out the pictures and information that we had guessed so far and welcome to the net as you have really helped fill in some of the gaps.

WELCOME back Eric I knew you were still out there. I guess you read the NCM/NCRS posts about Queenie.

Tyler

Corvettes White
04-01-2013, 09:48 PM
Thank you for the update, TT.

George

JP_32
04-04-2013, 01:18 AM
JP, Nice updates. I currently own #074 and the info about Chuck Sr. driving it for a year was news to me. AIf you have any more pictures of #074 I would love to see them. Thanks Eric Jackson

Here is all I have of the ZR-1, Still from the press opening day, I only took a couple pictures. The ZR-1 was probably no more than a week old in this picture. We took delivery of it and immediately painted it Plum Crazy, probably no more than a few days (if that) before the opening

http://www.jpshooter.com/pics/ZR-32/PlumCrazyZR1.jpg

http://www.jpshooter.com/pics/ZR-32/Head2Head.jpg

http://www.jpshooter.com/pics/ZR-32/ZR-32_1.jpg

JP_32
04-04-2013, 02:26 AM
This is the build sheet for EX5011 and it is not an active suspension car. Way too early, as far as I know there were no active cars in the 87 run of KOH cars, at least none of them have it on the build sheets. I believe the selective ride vehicle refers to the first FX 3 cars. I will ask Geoff this weekend.

Nope, I remember it was conventional suspension.

JP I got to ask about the transmission, the one I got from with the engine and wheels (see the thread on Queenies engine story) was an 1989 build date. From this I surmise you left the trans from EX5011 in the roadster and just replaced the engine since it would not have been visible, true?

Yknow I was going to say I was almost sure we got a new transmission, but I have one picture showing the new engine attached to what looks like the sandblasted transmission so you may be right about that.

Do you have the ecm from EX5011? How about the DIS module from under the plenum. He gave me what he claimed was the ecm from the car but it is a LT4 ecm. The items I mentioned are very rare and if possible I would like to acquire them. You need to read the Queenie threads as they intermingle information on all the prototypes together. May I post the photographs here with your explanation? It will help make our knowledge better. Do you remember who came from GM and wired the Z32 car?

I am sorry I don't have or remember all the details, remember this was 24 years ago.:confused: I do not have any parts, the only thing I had was the Key cylinder, Key and ID fob, though now I cant find it. I would have to think we used the ECM in the ZR-32, the DIS module was removed and stored along with the EX5011 motor parts so it may have been misplaced along the line somewhere. The ZR-32 was custom Wired by Ron Francis, I really have no Idea who came out from GM, what I remember was a team of engineers came out to check the wiring and program the ECM before the engine was started. I was a fabricator on the project, most of that other work was arranged by Chuck Lombardo, and most of the Chevy arrangements were made through Jim Perkins, who was the General Manager of Chevrolet at the time.

Yes you may post any of my photographs, I appreciate you keeping my name on them.

Tyler Townsley
04-04-2013, 08:44 AM
Nope, I remember it was conventional suspension.

Yknow I was going to say I was almost sure we got a new transmission, but I have one picture showing the new engine attached to what looks like the sandblasted transmission so you may be right about that.

Yes you may post any of my photographs, I appreciate you keeping my name on them.

Thanks we appreciate your contribution to the story and will make sure you are credited'

Tyler

1989ZR1#74
05-06-2013, 04:10 PM
Yeah I "mis-spoke" I know it wasnt an active I ment Selective Ride Vehicle. As you can see it was called out on the build sheet. Thanks for the additional pictures. Tell Chuck Sr I have his garage remote (fount it under the seat!)

http://www.syreal.com/opener.jpg


not to question you, but #074 was the west coast media car and was used by a few press outlets prior to Cal Street Rods got ahold of it. It was reviewed in Vette magazine and the LA Times prior to CAL. It was built in 4/89.

Here is a shot of it from the LA times:

http://www.syreal.com/zr1bookb2.jpg

and Vette:

http://www.syreal.com/074vette011990_sm.jpg


EWJ

1989ZR1#74
05-06-2013, 04:14 PM
WELCOME back Eric I knew you were still out there. I guess you read the NCM/NCRS posts about Queenie.

Tyler


Thanks Tyler. Life throw us curve balls every now and then and I am in the 27th inning of this round, Been busier then I ever have been on other non ZR-1 projects so I try to keep up but months go by before I can check. Eric

Blue Flame Restorations
05-06-2013, 04:18 PM
Glad to see you posting, Eric. It'd be nice to see you in BG this month.

Brett

1989ZR1#74
05-06-2013, 04:39 PM
Glad to see you posting, Eric. It'd be nice to see you in BG this month.

Brett


Hey Brett, Not this year, I am heading to the Indy 500 the following week instead. My bucket list will have one less item after that. I will be at Carlisle helping display a 1963 Corvette show car:

http://www.barriskustomnews.com/2013/04/19/barris-custom-asteroid-corvette-to-feature-at-corvettes-at-carlisle/

EWJ

Blue Flame Restorations
05-06-2013, 04:47 PM
You'll love it!! I used to go every year

POWERBRAKEBOB
05-27-2013, 11:23 PM
Chuck Lombardo was a long time customer of mine. I helped Chuck and all the street rod companies of that era solving brake problems as the president of Power Brake Service. youtube.com/powerbrakeservice
I believe I was the original inspiration of putting an LT5 in a street rod into Chuck's ear. The following year at SEMA, I was in the Chevrolet booth, along with Floyd Garrett, and Reggie Jackson. There was Chuck showing the drawings of the proposed ZR 32 to the Chevrolet execs. . I haven't read the entire thread, BUT I was at CSR when Ser no. 3 was there. I pulled my 66 427 roadster alongside, and photographed both cars. The #3 car went to SEMA with Boyd's Wheels. I have photos of all.
I ended up with many of the loose parts off the red car stripped down in these photos. One item of interest was an aluminum harmonic damper Degree Wheel.
I bought a 1991 ZR-1, PPG Turquoise, New, now with 250,000 miles on it. I picked up from Chuck a set of the flat cap ZR1 wheels while I was there one time. THOSE wheels are on my 91. The slots have been painted Turquoise to match, and the face polished. Now THOSE wheels came off of one of those cars photographed here. Either from No.3, No. 55 ( I believe 55) or an EXP car. They were well used, and had some hard track miles on them. This was sometime in 1991 or 1992.

POWERBRAKEBOB
05-27-2013, 11:25 PM
The wheels I have a date coded or cast 2/1/88

Blue Flame Restorations
05-27-2013, 11:59 PM
Chuck Lombardo was a long time customer of mine. I helped Chuck and all the street rod companies of that era solving brake problems as the president of Power Brake Service. youtube.com/powerbrakeservice
I believe I was the original inspiration of putting an LT5 in a street rod into Chuck's ear. The following year at SEMA, I was in the Chevrolet booth, along with Floyd Garrett, and Reggie Jackson. There was Chuck showing the drawings of the proposed ZR 32 to the Chevrolet execs. . I haven't read the entire thread, BUT I was at CSR when Ser no. 3 was there. I pulled my 66 427 roadster alongside, and photographed both cars. The #3 car went to SEMA with Boyd's Wheels. I have photos of all.
I ended up with many of the loose parts off the red car stripped down in these photos. One item of interest was an aluminum harmonic damper Degree Wheel.
I bought a 1991 ZR-1, PPG Turquoise, New, now with 250,000 miles on it. I picked up from Chuck a set of the flat cap ZR1 wheels while I was there one time. THOSE wheels are on my 91. The slots have been painted Turquoise to match, and the face polished. Now THOSE wheels came off of one of those cars photographed here. Either from No.3, No. 55 ( I believe 55) or an EXP car. They were well used, and had some hard track miles on them. This was sometime in 1991 or 1992.

Bob, I am looking for the white plastic coolant reservoir that sat pn the paassenger side of the cowl, just above the AC box. Would you happen to have it? Mine was destroyed when my EX5023 Prototype was crushed in England.

Pic below It's sitting in the box on the floor board.
http://i42.tinypic.com/2wggi90.jpg

Tyler Townsley
05-28-2013, 01:56 AM
. I have photos of all.
I ended up with many of the loose parts off the red car stripped down in these photos. One item of interest was an aluminum harmonic damper Degree Wheel.
I bought a 1991 ZR-1, PPG Turquoise, New, now with 250,000 miles on it.

Pictures encouraged. I would like to post them here.
http://thepandatrap.com/gallery/ZR-1s
250k miles wow. Did you also know 'Fastlane' Lane Goldstein who drag raced his 90 quite often in the area.

http://thepandatrap.com/tyler/misc/BG%2001%20FastLanes%20car.jpg

Tyler

POWERBRAKEBOB
05-28-2013, 02:35 AM
Although I did pick up some interesting pieces, all tagged "experimental", I did not feel I was entitled to "load up". It wasn't clear WHO was the owner of the remains. I was excited to get those 1988 11" wheels at no charge. They were scraped on the inside edge and bent. I had to straighten them, and shave the edges clean. Actually my tires were shot at the time. I transferred the tires first. A guy contacted me who was installing an LT5 in a convertible. I sold him the thermostat housing, a Double dia power brake booster, which I sell, and some other pieces to help him assemble a ZR1 convert.
I could ask Chuck if he knows more about the remains of that car.
I'm sure that reservoir was there, but I did not pick it up. IF we only knew then what we know now.

Blue Flame Restorations
05-28-2013, 09:21 AM
Although I did pick up some interesting pieces, all tagged "experimental", I did not feel I was entitled to "load up". It wasn't clear WHO was the owner of the remains. I was excited to get those 1988 11" wheels at no charge. They were scraped on the inside edge and bent. I had to straighten them, and shave the edges clean. Actually my tires were shot at the time. I transferred the tires first. A guy contacted me who was installing an LT5 in a convertible. I sold him the thermostat housing, a Double dia power brake booster, which I sell, and some other pieces to help him assemble a ZR1 convert.
I could ask Chuck if he knows more about the remains of that car.
I'm sure that reservoir was there, but I did not pick it up. IF we only knew then what we know now.

That would be wonderful. Thankyou so much for any help.

Brett

1989ZR1#74
05-28-2013, 03:14 PM
Bob, great to see your post. I think we traded DMs on the Corvette Forum a few years ago. The scrapped car pictured, P8Y084 was 1988 KOH LT5 Vin number #55. Your wheels dated 2/88 would have come from a Pilot 89 not a prototype 88. They where built long before 2/88. Car #003 was built in 1988, but it looks like it still has it's original wheels. Hmmm. Eric

Blue Flame Restorations
05-28-2013, 03:27 PM
Bob, great to see your post. I think we traded DMs on the Corvette Forum a few years ago. The scrapped car pictured, P8Y084 was 1988 KOH LT5 Vin number #55. Your wheels dated 2/88 would have come from a Pilot 89 not a proototype 88. They where built long before 2/88. Car #003 was built in 1988, but it looks like it still has it's original wheels. Hmmm. Eric

I have the wheels/ tires from P8Y084, thanks to Tyler

1989ZR1#74
05-28-2013, 03:31 PM
I have the wheels/ tires from P8Y084, thanks to Tyler

What are they dated?

Blue Flame Restorations
05-28-2013, 03:36 PM
What are they dated?

1/28/87 & 1/30/87

Blue Flame Restorations
05-28-2013, 03:39 PM
I also have one 11" RR dated 2/1/88, plus two 1989 11" rears currently on EX5023