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GrayZ
02-16-2010, 09:09 PM
okay, my back hatch gas cylinder thingys must be on empty
cause my back hatch has trouble staying open.
I'm assuming they are the same for all C4 Corvette's
Where is the best place to buy new ??
Any tricks of the trade to replace ?
thanks in advance. :dontknow:

1990 415
02-16-2010, 09:11 PM
Keith, your questions don't have to be dumb for us to make fun of you.

QB93Z
02-16-2010, 09:29 PM
I thought making fun of Keith was required here. But, it is an easy shot when Keith posts a problem with keeping it up.

I don't have a source for them, but I will say that they are easy to replace. Have a helper support the glass. Disconnect the wire that goes to the rear defogger. Then there is a clip that you can pry out with a small screw driver. Then the cylinder just pops off the ball and socket joint.

Jim

-=Jeff=-
02-16-2010, 10:14 PM
Try a local place first, then MidAmerica or Even Rock Auto Sells them

RICHARD TILL
02-16-2010, 10:57 PM
Just saw the handle out of an old broom and prop it up. You`ll save the pain of replacement and your money too. :hello:

tccrab
02-17-2010, 12:15 AM
Keith:

We would not think of picking on you, this is more our style:
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Can't you just feel the love?

;-)

TomC
'Crabs

Jeffvette
02-17-2010, 12:34 AM
Keith, just look around for hatch struts. You can still get them from GM (my preference) or aftermarket.

To replace, you need to prop the hatch up, or have a second person to help. As soon as you remove one bad strut, the other will not support the hatch. You need to have a small screwdriver or pick to undo the retaining clasp.

flyin ryan
02-17-2010, 01:14 AM
have a second person to help. I just used my head to hold it up,... & you said it wasn't good for anything :dontknow: :mrgreen:

GrayZ
02-17-2010, 02:58 AM
The outpouring of love and cooperation here brings a tear to my eye, but then again, so does pulling a hair out of my nose.
thanks for all the reply's, i think i can "get-r-done" now
or maybe not...:cheers:

HAWAIIZR-1
02-17-2010, 03:38 AM
Hey Keith,

I don't know if your email changed from the old days but I sent you a document with instructions and pictures just for you. I hope it helps.

Take care and see you in May.

Paul Workman
02-17-2010, 06:11 AM
You need to have a small screwdriver or pick to undo the retaining clasp.

Considering the number of pix of "Hooter Girls" we've seen w/ Kieth's car...and YOUR avatar Jeff,...I'm not sure I'm following along here : Uhmmm what "retaining clasp" exactly does he need tools for? (My mind seems to wander...I mean...wonder!:p)

P.

GOLDCYLON
02-17-2010, 08:48 AM
Try a local place first, then MidAmerica or Even Rock Auto Sells them

I bought mine from madvet.com. Worked for many years so far. Easy to do

billybaloneey
02-17-2010, 08:53 AM
The glass is very heavy. As suggested, having another person there to hold it in the up position would be helpful. If not, take a rough measurement of a 1x4 board or a 2x4 board or a broom/mop handle. Wrap some towels or rags ground each end and use it as a prop....worked for me.

The struts are always on ebay if you can't find them locally.

I don't know if the struts I replaced were super charged, but mine initially took some effort to close after they were installed.

ZR1Vette
02-17-2010, 09:44 AM
Is this true??>>> I was told that for NCRS operation verification that the glass hatch has to lift up on its own via the gas struts after the hatch button is hit.

tomtom72
02-17-2010, 09:57 AM
Keith, try to get the real GM parts. The stuff that the aftermarket sells is not "Left" and "right" but one fits both sides.

The issue is the connection for the defroster. The real GM ones have them on opposite sides of the strut. The aftermarket ones, or at least the pair I bought from Corvette Central, have the connection spade terminal on the same side of the strut regardless of left or right side strut. It is a bit of a pia to get the right side wiring to get to the terminal on the strut. I may eventually have to re-solder a longer wire to reach the right side strut terminal. Not the end of the world, but a pia none the less. There is no way that I could find to rotate the right strut's terminal to the correct position for an easy connection.

:cheers:
Tom

FU
02-17-2010, 10:07 AM
If i ask a dumb question will everyone please make fun of me ??

Yes we will.

http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/files/creepy%20bob.gif

Ask Bob , He'll give you something so your rod stay's up !

:wave::wave::wave:

DMark
02-17-2010, 10:35 AM
Mine are getting a bit weak also.

Anybody have the GM part # for these struts?

ZR1Vette
02-17-2010, 10:53 AM
I believe this is what you all are looking for>>

http://www.gmpartsdepartment.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=214533&chapter=&sectionids=0,6156&groupid=51894&subgroupid=3822&componentid=18947&make=6&model=Corvette&year=1990&catalogid=2&displayCatalogid=0

DMark
02-17-2010, 12:17 PM
I believe this is what you all are looking for>>
Got it. Thanks! :thumbsup:

jrd1990zr1
02-17-2010, 11:10 PM
Keith,

If you are considering ever having your car judged by NCRS then there is a company in Canada that rebuilds them. If you are interested in that information drop me a PM and I will look for the contact info. I remember seeing GM replacements in the $70-90 range. I agree with Tom go for GM parts.

I think I saw that your car was a 1990??? If you are going to replace them and had planned on throwing them away, would you consider sending them to me if I pay UPS Ground shipping? Shouldn't be too much.

Us NCRS guys like to have spare OEM parts. :dancing

:cheers: John

A1990
02-18-2010, 12:10 AM
If you are considering ever having your car judged by NCRS

I believe that ship has sailed...just sayin... :mrgreen:

ZR1Vette
02-18-2010, 07:11 AM
The link I posted above is for OEM parts and the struts are available for $51 each... but agree if you are NCRS then rebuild is an excellent choice.

tomtom72
02-18-2010, 07:42 AM
Keith,

If you are considering ever having your car judged by NCRS then there is a company in Canada that rebuilds them. If you are interested in that information drop me a PM and I will look for the contact info. I remember seeing GM replacements in the $70-90 range. I agree with Tom go for GM parts.

I think I saw that your car was a 1990??? If you are going to replace them and had planned on throwing them away, would you consider sending them to me if I pay UPS Ground shipping? Shouldn't be too much.

Us NCRS guys like to have spare OEM parts. :dancing

:cheers: John

Hey John, would you mind if I PM'ed you about those guys in Canada? I may like to have my old struts rebuilt. I feel it's worth asking about anyway.
TIA
:cheers:
Tom

ZR1Vette
02-18-2010, 07:44 AM
Me too please on the Canada contact info...
Thanks

jrd1990zr1
02-18-2010, 11:25 PM
Me too please on the Canada contact info...
Thanks

Michael and Tom,

I'l post it as soon as I can locate the details. I filed it away and can't put my finger on it quickly.

John

jrd1990zr1
02-18-2010, 11:30 PM
Is this true??>>> I was told that for NCRS operation verification that the glass hatch has to lift up on its own via the gas struts after the hatch button is hit.

Michael,

Yes it is true. The glass to open up completely, not stop part way. I have also seen some judges at regional or national event "unofficially" time the lift, althought the judging manual, last I looked did not address time.

John

tomtom72
02-19-2010, 07:44 AM
Thanks John! No sweat, whenever you get around to digging out the info is cool!:cheers:

jrd1990zr1
02-21-2010, 08:52 PM
Tom,

I believe this is the company. I have not used them yet.

http://www.lstechnologies.ca/recharging.html (mhtml:{0BD7EFEF-2715-405B-8F3E-4F4FAE31072B}mid://00000018/!x-usc:http://www.lstechnologies.ca/recharging.html)


:cheers: John

tomtom72
02-22-2010, 07:14 AM
Thanks John! You're da Man!:mrgreen:

http://www.lstechnologies.ca/

just leave off the rest of the addy, here's the link guys.

:cheers:
Tom

ZR1Vette
02-22-2010, 08:26 AM
Thanks for the info...will be chatting with them about the rear hatch struts

GrayZ
02-22-2010, 09:43 AM
Hey Keith,

I don't know if your email changed from the old days but I sent you a document with instructions and pictures just for you. I hope it helps.

Take care and see you in May.

craig, i did not recieve?


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