View Full Version : How many of you have been around since the original ZR-1 Registry?
HAWAIIZR-1
01-04-2010, 12:16 AM
A few years ago when I bought my second ZR-1 (a White 91 that should have never sold, but I could not afford to keep both at the time) the original owner gave me a box full of binders that contains Registry newsletters from the original organization. The box went into storage and I pulled it out yesterday as I was putting away all the XMas decorations.
Anyway, I started to peruse these and had no idea of the gold mine of information and what a great organization it was. Don't get me wrong, the current ZR-1 Net Registry is a great organization too, but this stuff is unbelievable and I wish there was a simple way to share some of this info with the folks that have never seen it. The stuff I have dates from 1992 to 1997 and monthly issues; I am not sure when the organization folded up. They start out as several 8 1/2 X 11 sheets stapled and folded in half and expands to quite a thick newsletter full of so much information. The strange thing is in 1996 they already had an article about availability of parts. Some of the names I have heard of and many I have never heard of, especially since many time we only know the user name versus their real name. I can't want to take the time to real all of these issues to see what life with the ZR-1 was like then. I also could not believe the shops that advertised in the newsletter and all the stuff that was available then. I remember when I first got my ZR-1 there was LT5 Registry but it was on it way out. :cheers:
Aloha!
xlr8nflorida
01-04-2010, 12:23 AM
It would be great if they could be scanned into digital PDF's.
I was around at the end. I think my car was in one of the last newsletters in the late 90's early 2000s.
GOLDCYLON
01-04-2010, 12:26 AM
Craig dont laugh but I bought a whole bunch of "ORIGINAL" News letters and "King of the Hill" magazines from 1990-on recently. They are a huge wealth of information and man can we get some of those 1990 modding prices back lol. I was also looking at all the names of some of the members and was at a loss to see but maybe one or two that are still a part of the registry. Keep in mind this was 20 years ago with a car at a 70K and up price point. A lot of those folks have moved on to other high end cars, a few have passed away. ETC ETC.
A1990
01-04-2010, 12:28 AM
I have a set of those newsletters too. I saw in one when Frank joined (FU2) and also Phil DeJohn. Marc Haibeck has been around for quite a while too. I read an article about when he bought his car.
I agree there is a lot of information in those newsletters.
HAWAIIZR-1
01-04-2010, 12:35 AM
Wow, making these into PDF would be a huge project even if I used the high speed digital sender at work. There are like 4 or 5 large binders and the newsletters are binded too. :dontknow:
I don't think it is funny that you bought these as there is a lot of good information. I also understand what you mean about when these cars were new because to me they would be wealthy folks only that could buy these when they were new back then. You must have a bunch of great stuff.:worship:
xlr8nflorida
01-04-2010, 12:39 AM
Wow, making these into PDF would be a huge project even if I used the high speed digital sender at work. The are like 4 or 5 large binders and the newsletters are binded too. :dontknow:
I don't think it is funny that you bought these as there is a lot of good information. I also understand what you mean about when these cars were new because to me they would be wealthy folks only that could buy these when they were new back then. You must have a bunch of great stuff.:worship:
They have digital copiers. I had one at one of my last projects. You feed it through the Digital Copier Feeder Tray and it emails you the PDF within minutes.
GOLDCYLON
01-04-2010, 12:44 AM
They have digital copiers. I had one at one of my last projects. You feed it through the Digital Copier Feeder Tray and it emails you the PDF within minutes.
These are magizines and newsletters in book style formats. They would have to be taken apart to scan unless you flatbed scan all the pages individually. :dontknow:
xlr8nflorida
01-04-2010, 12:54 AM
These are magizines and newsletters in book style formats. They would have to be taken apart to scan unless you flatbed scan all the pages individually. :dontknow:
I would pull out the staple and then scan 17X11 or 8.5 X 14 then manipulate through PhotoShop or Adobe to put back together.
It's not bad at all.
You can also do page by page through the Doc feeder.
If everybody would ante up and agree to scan a few, it would be done in no time :)
tomtom72
01-04-2010, 07:02 AM
Okay, another stupid question from the noob!:o
Isn't all that technical stuff preserved on the thing called the "list Serve"? I should say that I actually have no clue what it is, how it works, let alone how to use it. Every now and again I seem to be able to participate in e-mail conversations about our cars with people. :redface:
Oh, sorry to the original question in this thread. I'm a rookie ZR-1 driver that bought on 12/16/04 and joined the NetRegistry in October 04(?). Yea I joined the registry before I actually bought a car because I didn't know anything about ZR-1's. It has turned out to be the best two decisions that I've made lately!:mrgreen:
A1990
01-04-2010, 11:35 AM
Scanning these has been discussed many times before. Most agree there would be a copyright infringement.
In addition to the time it would take, those of us that have these newsletters, etc. have a significant investment in them.
They would never be the same after you took them apart.
xlr8nflorida
01-04-2010, 12:35 PM
Scanning these has been discussed many times before. Most agree there would be a copyright infringement.
In addition to the time it would take, those of us that have these newsletters, etc. have a significant investment in them.
They would never be the same after you took them apart.
Copyright infringement to a Defunct organization that is no longer in existence. Digital copies are provided online all the time and the authors get credit. I put a ton of articles on national websites all the time and they always get credit.
Significant investment? You still have your originals and many people would pay for the labor.
You have to be kidding, its typically a few staples. It's not like they are in the Smithsonian's collection of rare books.
I'll pick up a set when they come available, I'd hate to gain knowledge for free from someone's SIGNIFICANT investment.
A1990
01-04-2010, 12:39 PM
Great, find a set and do this for us then :cheers:
xlr8nflorida
01-04-2010, 12:49 PM
Great, find a set and do this for us then :cheers:
Yes, then other ZR-1 members would benefit from my Significant Investment.
gbrtng
01-04-2010, 02:23 PM
I just looked at wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Duration
If this is correct, the old Legends are still protected.
How about someone donating (and writing off) the entire collection to the NCM library and let them deal with the copyright aspect. Anyone could look at the library copy and make their own copies as needed.
xlr8nflorida
01-04-2010, 02:45 PM
I just looked at wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Duration
If this is correct, the old Legends are still protected.
How about someone donating (and writing off) the entire collection to the NCM library and let them deal with the copyright aspect. Anyone could look at the library copy and make their own copies as needed.
I am willing to bet that the Copyright is not even registered on file.
BlackWidow#2
01-05-2010, 08:27 PM
To answer the original question, I was around back then, as I'm sure a few other lurkers have been.
George
GOLDCYLON
01-05-2010, 10:33 PM
To answer the original question, I was around back then, as I'm sure a few other lurkers have been.
George
I saw your car lined up with all the other BWs in front of the Museum in an old mag. That must have been a fun trip. GC
ZRWON
01-05-2010, 11:42 PM
To answer the original question, I was around back then, as I'm sure a few other lurkers have been.
George
I too was there in the early days. Remember when they had a deal with Chev parts for us to get the proper color rear ZR-1 emblem @ discounted price and install it on the passenger side front bumper so other members would know we "belong"?
I had one on both of my '91s. Wonder if they are still on them. I think the Turq one is now owned by a member in Ohio. The steel blue metallic was sold to a guy in Paris in Feb '93, never to be heard of again
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/zrwon/TURQBEAST.jpg
HAWAIIZR-1
01-06-2010, 12:59 AM
Congratulations to you folks that have been around from the beginning!!! Thanks for sharing. =D> It is nice to see that some folks have hung tough with the ZR-1 where so many have moved on for various reasons. I sure would like to hear the stories when meeting some of these folks and learn more about the following of these special cars.
Blackwidow#2,
That is an awesome collection you have and I can't imagine going into my garage and having those choices. :worship::thumbsup:
HAWAIIZR-1
01-06-2010, 01:04 AM
I too was there in the early days. Remember when they had a deal with Chev parts for us to get the proper color rear ZR-1 emblem @ discounted price and install it on the passenger side front bumper so other members would know we "belong"?
I had one on both of my '91s. Wonder if they are still on them. I think the Turq one is now owned by a member in Ohio. The steel blue metallic was sold to a guy in Paris in Feb '93, never to be heard of again
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/zrwon/TURQBEAST.jpg
Thanks for sharing this bit of history, I think I saw a few pics over the years and did not know the significance about the emblem in that location...........now I know.:handshak:
vandornjim
01-06-2010, 12:09 PM
I have a set of those newsletters too. I saw in one when Frank joined (FU2) and also Phil DeJohn. Marc Haibeck has been around for quite a while too. I read an article about when he bought his car.
I agree there is a lot of information in those newsletters.
Lots of untold stories too regarding the Rgistry and those newsletters.:happy1:
jvd ZR-1 Registry #21
A1990
01-06-2010, 12:18 PM
Lots of untold stories too regarding the Rgistry and those newsletters.:happy1:
jvd ZR-1 Registry #21
Is it time to tell yet?
carter200
01-06-2010, 12:47 PM
I was there :wave: My old number was 868. :cheers:
A1990
01-06-2010, 01:01 PM
LT5 registry or ZR-1 Registry?
GOLDCYLON
01-06-2010, 01:10 PM
Is it time to tell yet?
YES! :mrgreen:
carter200
01-06-2010, 01:13 PM
LT5 registry or ZR-1 Registry?
LT5 reg, I believe. I've slept since then :mrgreen:
BlackWidow#2
01-06-2010, 10:03 PM
Congratulations to you folks that have been around from the beginning!!! Thanks for sharing. =D> It is nice to see that some folks have hung tough with the ZR-1 where so many have moved on for various reasons. I sure would like to hear the stories when meeting some of these folks and learn more about the following of these special cars.
Blackwidow#2,
That is an awesome collection you have and I can't imagine going into my garage and having those choices. :worship::thumbsup:
Thanks for the kind words! I wish I was in Hawaii right now though. We have received about 3" of snow almost everyday for the past 2-3 weeks.
Good luck with your engine rebuild and thanks for sharing that process.
George
BlackWidow#2
01-06-2010, 10:10 PM
I saw your car lined up with all the other BWs in front of the Museum in an old mag. That must have been a fun trip. GC
I bought the widow in 1997 (July 4th to be exact) , from Steve Wait. He is the one in the picture and I'm sure he had a fun trip. I was there when the picture was taken but in a stock ZR1. That picture was from 94 or 95, maybe when the last 95 was built. I can't remember offhand.
Thanks, George
BlackWidow#2
01-06-2010, 10:18 PM
I too was there in the early days. Remember when they had a deal with Chev parts for us to get the proper color rear ZR-1 emblem @ discounted price and install it on the passenger side front bumper so other members would know we "belong"?
I had one on both of my '91s. Wonder if they are still on them. I think the Turq one is now owned by a member in Ohio. The steel blue metallic was sold to a guy in Paris in Feb '93, never to be heard of again
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/zrwon/TURQBEAST.jpg
Yes, I remember. Personally I never thought it looked very good so I never did that. But I did put the decals in the rear hatch. I used to own a 91 Turq, they are sharp cars. Once in a while I still see a Z with the emblem on the front bumper. George
HAWAIIZR-1
01-07-2010, 12:50 AM
Thanks for the kind words! I wish I was in Hawaii right now though. We have received about 3" of snow almost everyday for the past 2-3 weeks.
Good luck with your engine rebuild and thanks for sharing that process.
George
Thanks George and I'm just trying to share what not to do. Wow, I remember those days with snow and kind of miss it too in a different way. I hope to meet you at BG in May and see any one your cars.
Craig
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