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tf95ZR1
11-02-2005, 10:12 PM
Had to go to a "Test Only" smog check station to register
my 1995 ZR1 with about 60,000 miles. Stock engine, Borla
exhaust. Passed with flying colors, not even close to the
limits.
Don't worry
Ted Feder

tomtom72
11-03-2005, 08:02 AM
That's cool! :thumbsup:

I was wondering, do you have cats on your exhaust system? Seems to me that NYS & CA are about as strict as it gets & I was curious about your good results.
Thanks,
Tom

Z Factor
11-03-2005, 10:11 PM
Had to go to a "Test Only" smog check station to register
my 1995 ZR1 with about 60,000 miles. Stock engine, Borla
exhaust. Passed with flying colors, not even close to the
limits.
Don't worry
Ted Feder

Glad to hear it. :thumbsup:

However I have to admit that I feel sorry for you guys in Ca. You live in a great state similar to Florida in many ways, but the regulation, politics, and restrictions you endure almost does not make it seem like you are part of the USA anymore. Just remember that unless they take away your ability to cross the border, there are still plenty of freedom loving states you can move to.


:cheers:

tf95ZR1
11-04-2005, 02:43 AM
Hi Tom
Yes, still have the original cats on.
And Jim,
You don't want to piss off Ahhnold.
And yes the borders are open, especially to the south!

tomtom72
11-04-2005, 09:04 AM
Thanks Ted for taking the time to respond! :thumbsup:

I'm starting to just dabble in exploring a bit more growl for my Z & I've been away for along time so all this CARB stuff is new to me. The last vette or hi-performance car for that matter that I owned was waaaay back in the late 70's early 80's. It was a 72 LT-1 & it had dealer installed factory 69 side pipes. I liked the sound. :mrgreen:

:cheers:
Tom

cuisinartvette
11-04-2005, 11:08 AM
It is pretty tough out here, one thing we don't have that i am grateful for are those vehicle inspections where they climb over every square inch of your car. The days of owning non compliant cars and paying someone off stopped with the random "test-only center" notices.

btw, Northridge is right up the street :thumbsup: Run your Z over to Flame's rest. on Corbin and plummer-Good Friday night cruise in.

Z Factor
11-04-2005, 11:36 AM
Hi Tom
Yes, still have the original cats on.
And Jim,
You don't want to piss off Ahhnold.
And yes the borders are open, especially to the south!

:sign10: Good sense of humor there.

John Boothby
11-04-2005, 01:49 PM
My car has 67,500 miles and flowmasters, chip, RC 205 injectors and passed the Nevada smog check with flying colors! Just do not do as I did the first time I took it in, I forgot to turn the "Full Power" key to normal, the tech did not know the LT5 from LT1 and did not mention the key when it did not pass. I had just purchased the car and I took it home with my tail between my legs. That night while reading the owner's manual, it struck me! I took it back the next day, with the key off, and it passed well within the numbers! :cheers:

PS: One thing about open boarders, Californians are moving here to Nevada in droves and slowly turning this state into another "Kalifornia"! :thumbsdo:

haber rj
11-04-2005, 04:19 PM
Hello John are you satisfied with the RC 205 injectors, do they work better than the factory injectors.

haber rj

cuisinartvette
11-04-2005, 05:03 PM
John, what do you mean by "normal"? Arent there just two positions, full power and valet?

Jeffvette
11-04-2005, 05:18 PM
Ok, first of all, if they are driving it on a "road test" and they are driving hard enough to open the secondaries, of course it's going to fail. Around town driving, if you drive like a normal sane human being, you won't have that issue.


Second, I feel for you on the Kali folks moving in, they have been taking over oregon & Washington in droves.

cuisinartvette
11-04-2005, 05:31 PM
All we want is to live around some English speaking folks

John Boothby
11-04-2005, 08:00 PM
Answer to two questions:

1. I do not have a reference regarding any injectors other than the RC 205's. They were on the car when I bought it. They had been installed about a year ago and seem to be working fine. The engine runs smooth and pulls strong through the gears without hesitation.

2. Regarding the engine power key, mine says: "Normal" and "Full"

:cheers:

cuisinartvette
11-06-2005, 12:03 AM
Someone give this man a cookie.


Nice threat, btw. :thumbsup:
Don't sing it, bring it.

Jeffvette
11-06-2005, 12:39 AM
Jesus guys, take a chill pill.

Francisco, the forum is not the place to make open threats. I don't think MOM will tolerate it. End of story.

Ron, a little more tact or PC could have been used.

I suggest both of you take this to PM and figure out a way to shake hands and get over this.

cuisinartvette
11-06-2005, 12:53 AM
Perhaps I should have used a smilie to show my sarcasm. If I offended MOM, my apologies. As far as Patton goes, I never mentioned race, or any of the other garbage he's referring to, its not my style. I'm here to learn and drool over Z's like everyone else.
This man's post speaks volumes about his maturity level and I'll leave it at that.
PM sent.

Aurora40
11-06-2005, 02:18 AM
<baseless rant>
Wow, you sure read a lot into someone mentioning a language. I don't see where anyone mentions anything you seem upset about.

I do find interesting that you seem so bent out of shape about alleged racism, yet you feel you can infer someone's entire being from one post on the Internet.

bobbyhi
11-06-2005, 11:23 AM
After Patton's post, I sure hope that they have Anger Management classes in his neck of the woods. Sounds like he has some issues to deal with. Let's get back to the original intent of the thread.

Patton
11-06-2005, 08:11 PM
Cuisinartvette's language comment and tf95ZR1's border comment were blatant racially oriented remarks. If you people don’t feel that those were inappropriate comments and that I had a right and moral obligation to stand up and say something about it than you can all go to hell. I don’t give a damn what any of you say, I will voice my opinion whenever the hell I feel I am being disrespected.
I apologize for using harsh language but I'll be GODDAMNED before anybody can sneak sly little racial remarks in between posts on here and everybody chuckle about it and then when I call them on it you guys defend the people who made the original comments? Those involved should be ashamed of themselves.

Ron, you did'nt have to mention race, "we just want to live next to English speaking people" is all you needed to say for any person with an IQ over 70 to understand what you were implying. And your mother gave me a cookie.

Z Factor
11-06-2005, 09:00 PM
Cuisinartvette's language comment and tf95ZR1's border comment were blatant racially oriented remarks. If you people don’t feel that those were inappropriate comments and that I had a right and moral obligation to stand up and say something about it than you can all go to hell.

May I suggest that your perspective is different than others? While you might be more sensitive, it does not mean that the remarks you are referring to were intended to offend.


I don’t give a damn what any of you say, I will voice my opinion whenever the hell I feel I am being disrespected.

As far as I am concerned you are welcome to do so within the forum rules. However, based on the PM you were sent, you know response was outside of the rules.


I apologize for using harsh language but I'll be GODDAMNED before anybody can sneak sly little racial remarks in between posts on here and everybody chuckle about it and then when I call them on it you guys defend the people who made the original comments? Those involved should be ashamed of themselves.

Again, I think it is a matter of perspective. That said, if you find something offensive that you do not believe should be on this forum, then you should report the post rather than making threats, cursing, and calling people names.

My suggestion to you is that you take a breather, calm down, and get a good nights sleep. We all have bad days, and given time to calm down, we handle things much better.

Patton
11-07-2005, 04:52 AM
Again, I think it is a matter of perspective. That said, if you find something offensive that you do not believe should be on this forum, then you should report the post rather than making threats, cursing, and calling people names.

I’m not the type to go tell mommy.

My suggestion to you is that you take a breather, calm down, and get a good nights sleep. We all have bad days, and given time to calm down, we handle things much better.

My suggestion to you is that you stop trying to diminish the offensiveness of the comments in question. Doing so mixed with your past support of them just italicizes your biased view on the matter. Tomorrow if someone was to express similar views in a public or private medium, in person or indirect I will react with equal vigor and resolve. Don't tread on me.
Jim, I’m surprised at you, you should have respected the fact that the comments offended me, and removed them. You say I should have reported them,... Well hey it looks like they have been reported for some time now, loud and clear and yet they remain. Whether the method of reporting broke any rules or not is irrelevant, they should have been removed and/or edited the MOMENT you edited mine. I am appalled that you are allowing obvious racism to rear its ugly head here. What’s worse is you actually laughed at it,...

:sign10: Good sense of humor there.

Do you often chuckle to yourself about "innocent", cute and good humored racism

I ask you what is worse, racism,... or somebody that uses harsh language towards the offender? Jesus, I can't believe I have to explain this. You guys are pathetic.

Z Factor
11-07-2005, 11:20 AM
I’m not the type to go tell mommy.

That is your choice, but there is a right way, and a wrong way to handle things. The forum rules spell out how to deal with problems, real or perceived. You can choose not to report threads/posts that offend you, however do not expect that any of the mods will even be aware of what you perceive to be a problem. The only reason any of this came to my attention is due to your inappropriate post/response which was in fact a clear violation of the rules. Similar behavior on a different forum probably would have resulted in a suspension at bare minimum, or an outright permanent banning.


My suggestion to you is that you stop trying to diminish the offensiveness of the comments in question. Doing so mixed with your past support of them just italicizes your biased view on the matter.

Maybe it is because you are upset, therefore you are reading too much into things. My comment which you have quoted relates to two attempts on the posters part to be funny and lighthearted. The first being about Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger with the reference to his Terminator movie persona. The second in reference to an open border problem as a play on words to my original comment about California closing the border to keep him and fellow Californians in. I have reviewed their comments and my response, and find nothing inappropriate. You may feel that I am being obtuse, but I think that a later post upset you, and you are now lumping everything together. If you genuinely found either of the aforementioned offensive then you need to take some time and determine why you are so overly sensitive. The PC culture we seem to currently be in teaches that we should look for hidden meaning and root out any perceived offensive comment. However, I assume you are old enough, and have seen enough of real life tragedy to not be offend at the drop of a dime.


Tomorrow if someone was to express similar views in a public or private medium, in person or indirect I will react with equal vigor and resolve. Don't tread on me.

Let me make this clear. You should have been aware of the forum rules prior to your last inappropriate response. You are aware of them now, and have been told both through a PM and this thread how to deal with real or perceived problems. If you were to respond in the same inappropriate manner again, rest assured you will not have posting privileges here for some time.

I hope that you can appreciate that our goal is to have an environment on the ZR-1 Net Registry Forum that everyone can enjoy. While we have an Off Topic section, and a few others not related to ZR-1's, the main thing that brings us here is the passion we have for the ZR-1. There is no room for personal attacks, cursing or threats. If you disagree with someone or don't like what they say, by all means speak up and voice your opinion, but stay within the forum rules. Otherwise, if you feel you must express yourself in an uncivil manner, do it outside of the forum.


Jim, I’m surprised at you, you should have respected the fact that the comments offended me, and removed them. You say I should have reported them,... Well hey it looks like they have been reported for some time now, loud and clear and yet they remain. Whether the method of reporting broke any rules or not is irrelevant, they should have been removed and/or edited the MOMENT you edited mine. I am appalled that you are allowing obvious racism to rear its ugly head here. What’s worse is you actually laughed at it,...


After reviewing every post and word in this thread I can only see one comment that might be considered offensive to anyone other than the most politically correct sensitive person. The reference "All we want is to live around some English speaking folks" could be taken as xenophobic. I think calling it racist is a stretch since no derogatory comment was made about any group. You may think that I am splitting hairs since you probably see little difference between the distinction I am making. In my view, we throw around words like racist, bigot, etc., way too often where it does not apply, and more importantly I think it diminishes the meaning of the words for those who truly deserve to be labeled so. What the poster meant by his comment only he knows. If I had a sense that it was in fact a racial slur, it would have been removed since that would be a rules violation.
The desire to live in an area where people speak the same language is not racist in and of itself. For example I was in San Francisco a few months ago and went through the Chinese section of the city during a festival they were having. A comment was made to the affect that it is hard to do business there for anyone who does not speak Chinese. The person making the comment was making a factual comment, not a racist one. I live in an area of south Florida where the majority of people are Hispanic/bilingual and I enjoy living here. However, there are sections of Miami where older immigrants from Latin America & Cuba do not speak any English. If I were to say that I would not live there because the people did not speak English, it would not be a racist comment against Hispanics. It would merely convey that I want to be able to communicate with others as a course of living. It would not matter to me if the area was full of Swedish people who only spoke Swedish, I still would not want to live there because of the lack of communication.

Fransisco, so as not to be redundant I will make this brief. If you choose not to hit the report button, it does not preclude you from PM'ing me, or for that matter the person who made a comment you disagree with. However the rules are relevant and will be followed by anyone wishing to use this forum. We try to use discretion, and to date no one has been suspended or banned. Personally I would like to keep it that way.

JIM

Patton
11-07-2005, 12:49 PM
blahblah: Jesus Jim,... you didn’t say anything new. Let me make myself perfectly clear.

To be honest, I’m not interested in what you have to say in the matter.
In your reply to the following comment;

Hi Tom
Yes, still have the original cats on.
And Jim,
You don't want to piss off Ahhnold.
And yes the borders are open, especially to the south!
You said

:sign10: Good sense of humor there.
It is unreal that I have to explain that the comment, "And yes the borders are open, especially to the south!" is offensive.

You thought it was funny... so of course you aren’t going to think they are offensive, you're just as guilty.

You should be ashamed of yourself, Jim,... Along with ALL of you who haven’t spoken up.

Z Factor
11-07-2005, 01:15 PM
I have tried to take the time to rationally explain the forums rules, and my understanding of what has transpired in this thread when it went off it's topic.


To be honest, I’m not interested in what you have to say in the matter.


Fair enough, you have made yourself very clear.



Any further discussion on this matter will be restricted to PM.

Patton
11-07-2005, 06:27 PM
What else is there to discuss, Jim?