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Hammer
11-27-2009, 03:43 PM
Surely there is a better way to allow people to register than what's going on now. There have been a lot of people registering that end up being spammers. I've seen on other sites where you have to post like ten times before a picture is allowed to be posted. Maybe that would weed these guys out.

Admin and mods are really doing a great job getting rid of these turds posts.

Thanks guys.

Z Factor
11-27-2009, 06:37 PM
A drawback to limits on posting pictures would be a new person wanting to show off their car, or describing a problem with an accompanying picture. Not everyone will want to post X amount of times before being able to post pictures.
However if the spammers get out of control we may have to adopt more restrictive policies if the platforms software cannot address the issue.
We will certainly consider your suggestion.

Thanks
:cheers:

Hammer
11-27-2009, 08:04 PM
I could post ten times in 1 minute....so....I do not see how that is a preventative measure for spammers?

If you posted 10 times in a minute and nothing was of value to the group, I would think the mods should be able to axe you right then.

QB93Z
11-27-2009, 11:35 PM
Hey John, is it just me, or is your avatar lop-sided?

Jim

Hammer
11-28-2009, 10:39 AM
Lop-Sided, maybe, but uh...who would care.

Jeffvette
12-14-2009, 03:10 AM
How about this, we don't let users sign up with a .ru in their email address.

DaveK
12-14-2009, 09:57 AM
Use the built-in Captcha and Email Verification systems that VBulletin provides? :dontknow:

GOLDCYLON
12-14-2009, 10:15 AM
How about this, we don't let users sign up with a .ru in their email address.


That would be great :hello:

Z Factor
12-14-2009, 10:39 AM
How about this, we don't let users sign up with a .ru in their email address.

That is a good idea, though restricting every .ru would keep anyone with that common Russian domain from signing up. While the odds of a Russian ZR-1 owner/enthusiast is unlikely, it would be ashame if they could not sign up on the forum. So I think we will temporarily restrict it to help stem the current tide of Russian spammers. Then presumably once we are off this groups radar, we can reinstate it and see if they return.


Use the built-in Captcha and Email Verification systems that VBulletin provides? :dontknow:

Believe it or not we do use those vBulletin tools, yet they still continue. Every time a new roadblock is put in their way, they find a way to circumvent it. So it is an ongoing battle between the developers of the platforms and the spammers who are determined to drive everyone insane.

Jeffvette
12-14-2009, 02:17 PM
That is a good idea, though restricting every .ru would keep anyone with that common Russian domain from signing up. While the odds of a Russian ZR-1 owner/enthusiast is unlikely, it would be ashame if they could not sign up on the forum. So I think we will temporarily restrict it to help stem the current tide of Russian spammers. Then presumably once we are off this groups radar, we can reinstate it and see if they return.


I think that is a risk we should be willing to take.

Z Factor
12-14-2009, 03:17 PM
I already put it in place, yet another non .ru registered. Hopefully the .ru block will help but we will have to wait and see.

DaveK
12-14-2009, 11:32 PM
How about for anyone new joining, their first 10 posts (just an example) have to be verified by a moderator before actually becoming visible. If it's explained when someone joins I can't see legitimate users having a problem with the slight delay that might occur.

ZZZZZR1
01-25-2010, 11:54 PM
I put you to work today reporting all that Spam Huh?

Only way for me to win any ebay auctions :mrgreen:

Mom,

Many other forums have admin's "allow" new members to join and if they seem suspect, they don't allow it. I know it is more work, but I'd be happy to help.

:cheers:

David

GOLDCYLON
01-26-2010, 12:35 AM
Mom,

Many other forums have admin's "allow" new members to join and if they seem suspect, they don't allow it. I know it is more work, but I'd be happy to help.

:cheers:

David


Me too, the new member delete 20 members a day stuff has to stop.

ZZZZZR1
01-26-2010, 12:41 AM
Typically there is a "profile" that has to be filled out....


There is a question they have to answer like "what is the ZR-1's motor called" LT5.


We can look @ it and figure out if they are bogus or not. Most are posting profiles as "Viagra / Porn" anyway.

:cheers:

David

Z Factor
01-26-2010, 02:31 AM
Thanks for the offer and suggestions David.
Spammers are like a virus in that every time you come up with a new way to circumvent them, they mutate and find other countermeasures.
Jeff's idea of blocking .ru has helped to reduce the Russian spammers.

I suspect we will go with something like your idea regarding another challenge question as the next step in the war against these pests.

:cheers:

Dynomite
01-26-2010, 01:18 PM
Thanks for the offer and suggestions David.
Spammers are like a virus in that every time you come up with a new way to circumvent them, they mutate and find other countermeasures.
Jeff's idea of blocking .ru has helped to reduce the Russian spammers.

I suspect we will go with something like your idea regarding another challenge question as the next step in the war against these pests.

:cheers:

This will work also....just let the forum run so slow the spammers get bored and leave.

http://www.zr1netregistry.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11008

Hammer
01-26-2010, 03:21 PM
If they don't show they own a ZR-1 in their profile BAN 'EM. Just never tell anyone that and it might work.

They have nothing to offer us.

Dynomite
01-26-2010, 03:41 PM
If they don't show they own a ZR-1 in their profile BAN 'EM. Just never tell anyone that and it might work.

They have nothing to offer us.

The suggestion of the BAN on non ZR1 owners without telling them why they are banned actually would work since ZR1 owners are not the spammers. You would have to keep that banning criteria secret however, from everyone and make it manditory for new members to describe their ZR1 in their profile.

I just do not know what questions you could ask that any new member could not find the answeres to. Some new members might not know any more than the spammers about the ZR1.

Z Factor
01-26-2010, 03:57 PM
Keep in mind guys that not everyone who joins the forum owns a ZR-1. Some will be looking to buy one or trying to get advice because they are considering one. Others might be former owners, fans, and/or Corvette enthusiasts.
So while we will continue to find ways to prevent spammers, we do not want to eliminate the good with the bad.

:cheers:

Dynomite
01-26-2010, 04:04 PM
Keep in mind guys that not everyone who joins the forum owns a ZR-1. Some will be looking to buy one or trying to get advice because they are considering one. Others might be former owners, fans, and/or Corvette enthusiasts.
So while we will continue to find ways to prevent spammers, we do not want to eliminate the good with the bad.

:cheers:

:cheers:

So how do other forums do it? I belong to several RAPTOR forums (ATVing) and they do not seem to have the spammer issues. Here is a list of domains/IPs which spammers use. http://www.stopforumspam.com/spamdomainsandips

Dynomite
01-26-2010, 11:26 PM
The domains that spammers use changes every day (blocking IP addresses will help) but there are more methods to use to minimize automated spamming including CAPTCHA.

CAPTCHA is also mentioned in post #7 by DaveK :thumbsup:
Most spamming is automated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA

Now I am told that BOTS or automated programs that can be used for spamming have difficulty getting through CAPTCHA :mrgreen:

A spambot is an internet bot (as in ROBOT) that attempts to spam large amounts of content on the Internet, usually adding advertising links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_bot

Here is some free CAPTCHA :happy1:
http://recaptcha.net/

I am still thinking :icon_stud

Say....is Hammer a Spammer :sign10: Here I go again off the deep end :redface:

zr1mom
01-27-2010, 08:33 PM
The domains that spammers use changes every day (blocking IP addresses will help) but there are more methods to use to minimize automated spamming including CAPTCHA.

CAPTCHA is also mentioned in post #7 by DaveK :thumbsup:
Most spamming is automated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA

Now I am told that BOTS or automated programs that can be used for spamming have difficulty getting through CAPTCHA :mrgreen:

A spambot is an internet bot (as in ROBOT) that attempts to spam large amounts of content on the Internet, usually adding advertising links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_bot

Here is some free CAPTCHA :happy1:
http://recaptcha.net/

I am still thinking :icon_stud

Say....is Hammer a Spammer :sign10: Here I go again off the deep end :redface:


I just turn CAPTCHA back on again.

Thanks!
Mom