Snake Skinner or Cash

[LGAFF]

Well,

Unless something goes awry I will be picking up a 2nd 17X11 and have a complete set of ZR-1 Gen I Dymags......so it begs the question. Do I take my 90 and do a snakeskinner package(Ported intake.........Sans AC, Radio, etc) or sell them all and cash in. I already had an interested party in one of the wheels...he might have waited too long.

Your thoughts?

[ZZZZZR1]

Lee,

Keep them, use them.... They are guaranteed to increase in value.

Congrats!

:thumbsup:

David

[XfireZ51]

Take the money and run. Better investments out there than a set of wheels with limited audience.

[LGAFF]

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/vemp_0906_01_z1989_chevy_corvette_z.jpg

Keep in mind I bought 4 Gen I 17x9.5s, 1 17X11 GenI, and 4 Gen II 17x9.5s, 1 Perkins Dymag all for $290. Sold the 4 Gen Is for $1600, and the Perkins for $300. So I am +$1600

With the current set, I already have the 2 fronts sold for the full cost of what I am buying all 5 wheels for....so utlimately I in the plus on Dymags.

Yes I am trying to justify keeping them:mrgreen:

[-=Jeff=-]

I told you what to do on the phone.. if the other would fit around my C5 brakes I would consider them

[LGAFF]

Melrose T-Top even sells 40lb hoods....and full lexan glass.....hmmmmmm

Contact Information:
Melrose T-Top International
100 West Ellwalk Avenue
Cortland, IL 60112

[-=Jeff=-]

Melrose T-Top even sells 40lb hoods....and full lexan glass.....hmmmmmm

Contact Information:
Melrose T-Top International
100 West Ellwalk Avenue
Cortland, IL 60112

yeah pete looked into the lexan hatch.. that is flimsy just FYI

Chris at melrose is a good guy to talk too, I remember when they were racing C4s

[LGAFF]

The trick with Lexan is that it needs to be mounted to an aluminum frame........apparently that is what was done with this car. Christ they have Lexan windshields too.

[flyin ryan]

Keep em'. There will always be a buyer for something that special. Plus the 'Cool' factor of having them is way high :cool:. Cash is just cash, at the end of the day...

[Hammer]

I have a bud that's starting to look for some Callaway Dymags for a 1991 B2K. If anyone has any leads on some please let me know.
Thanks

[Aurora40]

If you can make some money, I'd sell them. They aren't any lighter than many forged aluminum wheels. They don't have much brake clearance, and are kind of a "clunky" style. The spokes are real thick, as is the barrel, so they don't look very open.

I would also wonder how well magnesium wheels retain their strength over time?

[Bob G]

I vote for the Snake Skinner, I thought of of doing one with the cars getting so cheap

[Pete]

Lee,Skin that M@th#r F@ck#r

You can sell all the parts that come off and get half the purchase price of the car back.:thumbsup:

Pete

[ZZZZZR1]

Lee,Skin that M@th#r F@ck#r

You can sell all the parts that come off and get half the purchase price of the car back.:thumbsup:

Pete

:jawdrop: Would he get that much? :mrgreen:

[jonszr1]

pete what all went into the snake skinner project ? i think i might like to do that for the blk 90. i only use it for the strip anymore

[Pete]

:jawdrop: Would he get that much? :mrgreen:

Well, between the Hvac box, A/C parts, seats, seat switches, door panels,center console,all carpeting,exhaust manifolds,secondary parts, a bunch of misc.parts i.e. ECM plastic cover,TB cover,radio,speakers, radio bezel,rear shade etc.
He can eliminate ABS if he wanted.


I think Lee paid $9k for the car if he gets $3-4k back heck he will have a
$5k Skinner that will haul some butt.:thumbsup:

Pete

[ZZZZZR1]

Pete,

I was joking... :mrgreen: That car is worth much more and the Dymags, WOW.

Great going and nice "shopping'!!!!!

cheers

David

[LGAFF]

Snake Skinner also had third brake light removed from the roof to the rear bumper, only 1 outer taillight worked on either side. Carbon Fiber brakes(yes in 1991), Center counsel out, cloth seats, radio ant, etc.

[XfireZ51]

Well, between the Hvac box, A/C parts, seats, seat switches, door panels,center console,all carpeting,exhaust manifolds,secondary parts, a bunch of misc.parts i.e. ECM plastic cover,TB cover,radio,speakers, radio bezel,rear shade etc.
He can eliminate ABS if he wanted.


I think Lee paid $9k for the car if he gets $3-4k back heck he will have a
$5k Skinner that will haul some butt.:thumbsup:

Pete

Isn't that about what just selling the Dymags would bring for $. He could still sell the parts of the SS and completely recoup his purchase price of car.

[-=Jeff=-]

I would buy the hood you have now.. it is black and in a bit better shape then mine :)

[Pete]

pete what all went into the snake skinner project ? i think i might like to do that for the blk 90. i only use it for the strip anymore

Brad i did not go all out with my Z.
I did subtle wieght savings if you sit in my Z or just walk by looks like a stocker.

In addition to Marc H.wieght saving tips from his web site.
I have also done.
After 3 years of debating it i finally did a pros and cons on the A/C
pros: i have A/C.
cons: i haven't used it since i've owned the car over 10 years,so i decided to yank it this past year (still have heat).

I have installed light wieght carpet,1994-95 door panels (lighter),
no power seats w/wiring & switches,aluminum pullies,cruise control,oil cooler temps stay in the 180's i don't Road Race.
More little things i just can't remember right now i will post as they come to me.

I was gonna do lexan rear window but was too flimsy so i decided against it, a carbon hood is way overpriced.

Pete

[scholtmj]

I vote Snake Skinner. That would kick a$$. Rolling showcase of LGAFF porting work :thumbsup:

[LGAFF]

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/90ZR1B-02.jpg

[-=Jeff=-]

that looks good

[flyin ryan]

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/90ZR1B-02.jpgI've seen that picture before...Looks good, don't it Lee? :)

[ZZZZZR1]

I've seen that picture before...Looks good, don't it Lee? :)

Damn it do!


:cool:

Don't sell them, use them!

:thumbsup:

David

[Pete]

Yeap, i would do it just like that.

Silver Wheels:wink:

400 RWHP,2900lbs = 124MPH :dancing

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Pete

[LGAFF]

Thinking about pulling the Corsa exhaust off.....going with this combo

2" Watson headers
No CATS
3" Chambered Exhaust
Muffler Elimantors

Anyone running a combo close to this.

[LGAFF]

With the abov exhaust mods...

AC Delete-40lbs
Radio Delete-25lbs
Lightweight Flywheel-20lbs
Dymags-6lbs
Spare Tire Delete-46lbs
Switch to manual seats-15lbs
Headers-18lbs
Muffler Eliminators-17lbs
Sunshade-5lbs
Emission equip removal-10lbs

I think this puts me at about 3200lbs or maybe even alittle under with a few other small deletions.

[Pete]

With the abov exhaust mods...

AC Delete-40lbs
Radio Delete-25lbs
Lightweight Flywheel-20lbs
Dymags-6lbs
Spare Tire Delete-46lbs
Switch to manual seats-15lbs
Headers-18lbs
Muffler Eliminators-17lbs
Sunshade-5lbs
Emission equip removal-10lbs

I think this puts me at about 3200lbs or maybe even alittle under with a few other small deletions.


You forgot
35lbs for carpet
Among other things :)

Pete

[LGAFF]

Looks like I picked up two manual seat tracks for $50.:cheers:

[HIZNHRZ]

So I'm thinking Pete is carrying ~7lbs per rwhp. With Marc's 500 Hp package and a few weight adds and reductions, I'm thinking I'm at ~8lbs per rwhp. I'm assuming a stock MY90 or 91 is at ~11lbs per rwhp.

Lee, where do you think you'll be?

[LGAFF]

It will be hard to say, will weigh the car once I am done...I am dumping the stereo, speakers and ant. I think Pete still has his. I am unsure if I will be removing the center console or not.

[LGAFF]

Started the project today...

Front speakers out
Rear Speakers out
AM Amp out

Am guessing about 35lbs removed

Anyone know how to remove the rear shade on a 90?

[-=Jeff=-]

Started the project today...

Front speakers out
Rear Speakers out
AM Amp out

Am guessing about 35lbs removed

Anyone know how to remove the rear shade on a 90?

Pete should, but if you take the top trim off and side trim you can get to it better. it is spring loaded to fit into 2 slots one on each side

So you selling off the stuff you remove?

[Kevin]

Anyone know how to remove the rear shade on a 90?

sawz all

[LGAFF]

Not sure if I will be selling the car had $1900 in stereo equipment in it....from 11/20000



Alpine CD receiver: CDM7854
Eclipse 5 channel AMP
10 inch Sub MTX(with Box)
Eclipse 5.25 inch comp system

Any idea what its worth, was a great system...I am not a "tunes" guy.....I like to listen to the motor.

[-=Jeff=-]

Not sure if I will be selling the car had $1900 in stereo equipment in it....from 11/20000



Alpine CD receiver: CDM7854
Eclipse 5 channel AMP
10 inch Sub MTX(with Box)
Eclipse 5.25 inch comp system

Any idea what its worth, was a great system...I am not a "tunes" guy.....I like to listen to the motor.

Get me the model # on the amp and I will check into it

[-=Jeff=-]

That Alpine is on eBay for around $50,

Sub maybe $50-75
Eclipse stuf I would need the model # on the speakers too. but my guess is around $50-100 for the comps..

As for the amp, if it is in high demand then it will sell for more $$

[LGAFF]

AMP wa $400 new...ECL 3650

also has jensen KS6520 speakers

Comp system # is ECL 8052

[Jeffvette]

Car audio is crap on resale. You think modifications have bad dollar retention.....

[-=Jeff=-]

AMP wa $400 new...ECL 3650

also has jensen KS6520 speakers

Comp system # is ECL 8052

found this amp:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ECLIPSE-EA3532-5-CHANNEL-AMP-EXCELENT-COND-WORKN-100_W0QQitemZ250540175636QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Am plifiers?hash=item3a555bb114

if it is close the starting bid for that one is $119

Jensens.. you may have to pay to get rid of them ;)

ECL 8052

A guy in June was trying to sell them for $180
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80180

not sure if they were new or not

[LGAFF]

Yeah, not my cash that went into it.....would not spend $1900 on a sound system. Just trying to decide if its worth selling or keep it in case I ever sell the car.

[LGAFF]

Would these work on the z?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/20PC-97-04-CORVETTE-Z06-C5-RACING-LUG-NUTS-12X1-5-BLACK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ca3ac603aQQitemZ 260444020794QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAc cessories

pitch is the same, I do not see why not.

[-=Jeff=-]

Would these work on the z?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/20PC-97-04-CORVETTE-Z06-C5-RACING-LUG-NUTS-12X1-5-BLACK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ca3ac603aQQitemZ 260444020794QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAc cessories

pitch is the same, I do not see why not.

Yes they should be fine

[LGAFF]

Anything else, looking to keep it easy to reverse, need to drop another 40-50lbs....hard to do without buying hoods, lexan, etc

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/weight.jpg

[-=Jeff=-]

Passenger seat, Console.. lexan roof over the fiberglass.. Power antenna

switch to manual seat tracks

switch to light weight carpet

remove the A/C

Windshield washer canister and pump

[XfireZ51]

How about electric water pump?

[Bob G]

I don't think it saves any weight, just helps performance
you could grind a lot of aluminum out of the heads, injector housings,& plenum .
then remove the secondaries that should save some weight

[LGAFF]

Any way to dump the mufflers, but make the car streetable? Chambered for example? Other option is Lexan hatch, but would be easy to break into the car.

Ported intake is in the plan.

[-=Jeff=-]

Any way to dump the mufflers, but make the car streetable? Chambered for example? Other option is Lexan hatch, but would be easy to break into the car.

Ported intake is in the plan.

muffler eliminators or chamber exhaust will work.. or just straight pipes

[LGAFF]

Braile Battery about $200 is 18PNDS, Delco 32.....

Could get a lithium for $1900 weight 8pnds, this is in the new Porsche GT3

[LGAFF]

Slow but getting there

-Speakers out
-Ant out
-1 seat converted to manual
-stock manifolds off
-Pulled the AC compress and lines today
-Spare tire/jack out

To Do:

-convert 2nd seat
-Pull emissions stuff
-Pull Stereo head unit
-lightweight flywheel
-stage 1 port(going to open up to 36mmm at top, take out bosses, 33-34mm at bottom) going to see what happens
-put on headers
-Get Dymags refinished

[LGAFF]

Can't wait to get the 17X11s on....here they are on a challenge car:

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/sebring_2005.jpg

[LGAFF]

Well, getting closer..

Lightweight flywheel on
Dymags Powdercoated
Plenum ported
Headers on

Engine getting the black treatment:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/GT093.jpg

Need to

*Convert 1 more seat to manual
*Block off coolant
*Put intake on
*HAng exhaust
*Put interior together
*Block off stereo opening

[-=Jeff=-]

Dymags Powdercoated

How much weight does the Powdercoating add? :p



*Convert 1 more seat to manual


I have the Right side manual rails if you don't


*Put interior together
*Block off stereo opening

won't both of these ADD weight? :p

[LGAFF]

What is used to block off the coolant at the IH?


I have rails..thanks

[-=Jeff=-]

NPT pipe plug with the insert allen head will work

[LGAFF]

I had 5/16-18 tap so I tried that, seemed loose and I winder if the thread is too coarse to stop the coolant under pressure.

[-=Jeff=-]

I had 5/16-18 tap so I tried that, seemed loose and I winder if the thread is too coarse to stop the coolant under pressure.

I did that, I think same size, but used a nut on the back with RTV on the threads

[XfireZ51]

Lee,

Its a 21/32nds. I have the tap for that. Bought it when I did mine.

[LGAFF]

Going to cut the socket flange on the Corsa, its welded in and the inner diameter is a little over 2".....so header dumps into a 2-21/4" tube before going back to 2.5"

[XfireZ51]

Sounds like the constriction I had earlier with the Maggie system.

[LGAFF]

-AC Delete
-Radio/ant/stereo Delete
-Spare Tire Delete
-Emissions delete
-Manual Seat Conversion
-Fidanza Flywheel
-Z51 Bilsteins
-Dymag wheels
-Headers/Corsa
-Ported Stage 1 intake

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/143.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/150-1.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/lgaff/152-1.jpg

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Looks really great, Lee.:thumbsup:

[Pete]

Now that's a sleeping,looks and drives stock.
Looks very very good Lee.
Can you make my Z shine like that.

Next,port heads and cams will do her good.:)

I have one question, why didn't you take secondaries out?
Pete

[LGAFF]

Camera is generous on the paint, just a wash and Turtle wax and dry.....the 2ndry issue was just a fuse. I plan on building the spare motor this winter.

[Locobob]

Very cool Lee :thumbsup: Think you need a light weight hood.

[LGAFF]

Thanks Guys, its kind of a ratrod ZR-1, paint is rough, high miles, and interior is beat up, lets hope it goes like hell.

Drove it today, power seems good, it seems odd vs driving the 92 with 4.09 gears.....with 4.09s you have to watch your revs, they come up fast, with stock gear it seems to take awhile to redline. The front end feels lighter in terms of steering, I took about 70lbs or so off the front with the AC, wheel, headers, and emissions

:thumbsup: