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-=Jeff=-
10-26-2009, 08:51 AM
1990 with 83K for $9000

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220495765885&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT#v4-15

QB93Z
10-26-2009, 09:36 AM
Helluva deal!!!

Jim

FU
10-26-2009, 09:55 AM
Something dosen't look right here :dontknow:

Kb7tif
10-26-2009, 10:23 AM
Thats the way to get one. Cheap and very modifiable. Cheers
If you look close there is some major wear on it but hell 9K...

Ccmano
10-26-2009, 07:45 PM
Hey Lee, you need to sell the new owner a set of your camcover emblems!

Not bad for $9k, looks like it's been sitting a while. No doubt it will need some work.

H
:cheers:

ZZZZZR1
10-26-2009, 07:47 PM
Saw it and watched it wind down.


Thought it would jump @ least 1k or 1.5k more in the last seconds, but didn't!!!!

Hopefully somebody will fess up they bought it and fill us in!

:thumbsup:

David

scholtmj
10-26-2009, 08:40 PM
This is a pretty quick flip. I watched this car when it was up for auction in Florida. White/Red with 91 wheels is pretty distinctive.

Hammer
10-26-2009, 09:04 PM
Something dosen't look right here :dontknow:

It's a 1991. M in the VIN. I have it listed on Ebay in Fl in March with a starting bid of $14k. Don't have down that it sold. Hard to believe someone would sell it at a loss like that. Can you say hoax?

-=Jeff=-
10-26-2009, 09:09 PM
It's a 1991. M in the VIN. I have it listed on Ebay in Fl in March with a starting bid of $14k. Don't have down that it sold. Hard to believe someone would sell it at a loss like that. Can you say hoax?

no it is a 1990 the VIN is: 1G1YZ23JXL5801737 'L'

just has 1991 wheels

LGAFF
10-26-2009, 09:19 PM
Noticed the Porsche Boxster in the background, why in the hell would you want a car that runs to 60 in 6.5 seconds over a Z?


I love my $10.5K Z.......headers this winter and ported intake coming soon.....maybe a diet too...AC delete, etc. Peteskinner II.:mrgreen:

Hammer
10-26-2009, 10:00 PM
no it is a 1990 the VIN is: 1G1YZ23JXL5801737 'L'
just has 1991 wheels

Yep, you're right, I had it under the ,91's for some reason. :rolleyes:

-=Jeff=-
10-26-2009, 10:08 PM
Yep, you're right, I had it under the ,91's for some reason. :rolleyes:
:thumbsup:

Jeffvette
10-27-2009, 12:30 AM
Hot deal. Be interesting to go over it and check it out.

-=Jeff=-
10-27-2009, 12:37 AM
Hot deal. Be interesting to go over it and check it out.

so when is it being delivered??? :sign10:

Jeffvette
10-27-2009, 12:57 AM
so when is it being delivered??? :sign10:

Hope not. Need it like I need stab wound.

Z Factor
10-27-2009, 12:07 PM
It's a 1991. M in the VIN. I have it listed on Ebay in Fl in March with a starting bid of $14k. Don't have down that it sold. Hard to believe someone would sell it at a loss like that. Can you say hoax?

I actually looked at this Z for a member when it was for sale in S Florida. It has been in a wreck, hence the reason for the poor repaint. It had many issues to the point I did not recommend buying it. The member was looking for a ZR-1 but was light on cash. I explained he would be spending $$$ to get it in shape, and since he was not mechanically inclined it would not be worth it to him.

The dealer admitted not knowing anything about car, or ZR-1's in general other than what he read on the internet. He asked me what it would take to get it in decent shape since he sold fairly high end classics, and when I finished with the list of things I noticed in just 5 minutes, he asked if I would buy it from him "cheap". Needless to say I was not interested, and wished him well. So he obviously blew it out to someone that took it to New York and they decided to sell it rather than put too much money into it.

The moral of the story is that you get what you pay for. There are exceptional deals that come along every once in a while, but this was not an example of one unless you were looking to part it out.

:cheers:

xlr8nflorida
10-27-2009, 12:13 PM
I actually looked at this Z for a member when it was for sale in S Florida. It has been in a wreck, hence the reason for the poor repaint. It had many issues to the point I did not recommend buying it. The member was looking for a ZR-1 but was light on cash. I explained he would be spending $$$ to get it in shape, and since he was not mechanically inclined it would not be worth it to him.

The dealer admitted not knowing anything about car, or ZR-1's in general other than what he read on the internet. He asked me what it would take to get it in decent shape since he sold fairly high end classics, and when I finished with the list of things I noticed in just 5 minutes, he asked if I would buy it from him "cheap". Needless to say I was not interested, and wished him well. So he obviously blew it out to someone that took it to New York and they decided to sell it rather than put too much money into it.

The moral of the story is that you get what you pay for. There are exceptional deals that come along every once in a while, but this was not an example of one unless you were looking to part it out.


:cheers:


Excellent post. :cheers:


I wonder why people on this forum keep talking about deals that are not really deals. All you have to do is look at the photos for more then 60 seconds and you can see the hood is not lined up properly on the drivers side. The front bumper looks like it was painted with a can of spray paint and is peeling all over the place. The rear bumper is peeling as well. The black rub strips were even oversprayed, god knows what the weatherstripping looks like :rolleyes: Now given those few items and the BS work they did, how do you think they took care of the rest of the car?? :lol:

The car's photos were taken wet which is a trick to make paint look better then it actually is. That car is easily a 15-20k car by the time you get everything straightened out and it has high mileage. On top of that you have an accident car on your hands that was repainted.

There are so many decent ZR-1's in the $16,000-$25,000 why go to the bargain basement? If all you can afford is $9,000 then save your $ or if you just have to have the ZR-1 now then buy it for $9,000 but rest assured, you will be putting a ton of $$ into it that you won't ever see back on resale value. Trust me, someone who pays $9,000 for a ZR-1 and alot of $$ in repairs will one day be concerned with resale value.

In regards to a deal for parting out. Yes, I guess there was some $$ in it. But honestly, stripping a car, inventory, dealing with selling parts and then getting stuck with the parts that are not in demand. I wonder how much $$ there really is in it. I mean, are you paying yourself the hours to strip car, inventory, sell? Even the big dollar items like motors. The people that are holding them seem to be holding them for YEARS. Nobody wants or maybe I should say NEEDS an LT-5 because they are bulletproof engines. That being said, the people who do have the LT-5s will make their $$$, its just going to be down the road some. People typically don't like buying expensive parts that more then likely they will never need. A good example of that is the Thermostat housing. How many guys are really going need one of those. Few and far between. So when you buy a part like that you know you will be using it yourself one day or holding it for a long time until the right buyer comes along.

-=Jeff=-
10-27-2009, 01:18 PM
There are so many decent ZR-1's in the $16,000-$25,000 why go to the bargain basement? If all you can afford is $9,000 then save your $ or if you just have to have the ZR-1 now then buy it for $9,000 but rest assured, you will be putting a ton of $$ into it that you won't ever see back on resale value. Trust me, someone who pays $9,000 for a ZR-1 and alot of $$ in repairs will one day be concerned with resale value.

I don't know, I bought a 'Bargain basement' ZR-1 everything worked except the A/C, which needed a charge.

It needed an interior and it had been hit (other then the 1/4 panel damage it had). but to be honest if I exclude all the mods (wheels, exhaust, headers ETC) I still am below $16K in my car.

I exclude the mods because I would have done them to either car. granted I know C4s pretty well since I had my 89 for 15 years and did a 89-91 dash conversion. is my ZR-1 perfect, nope, it needs better paint and possibly a hood, but the hood is not bad to the point where it is obvious.

I have done all the work myself (except an alignment) and the 'Bargain Basement' Car was all I really could purchase as I had to sell the 89 to pay for the 90.. Do I regret it? no. Although when I first drove it I wondered WTF I did, but driving it now.. No way to do I regret it

Kb7tif
10-27-2009, 07:38 PM
Well one has the be cautious with ebay thats for sure. Always look at the car in Person and bring someone who knows what these are all about.
I got this 92 for 10.2K from ebay. Do you remember this one?
I ended up getting a 1100 refund on it because it was listed as a private sale which ir was not. Told the guy either you send me the difference or i put it on a carrier back to ya. Quick check:dancing
Most of the time You get what you pay for sure. Ebay for sure.
Right now out here the is a 94 out here local guy cant sell it, with 80K or so Very nice I bet you bring 15K cash you would drive it home. Few years ago the same car would have been 25K.:-x

-=Jeff=-
10-27-2009, 11:56 PM
It needed an interior and it had been hit (other then the 1/4 panel damage it had). but to be honest if I exclude all the mods (wheels, exhaust, headers ETC) I still am below $16K in my car.

A hood is like $1600 and then paint of say $1500. If you are at $15,000 with the new work you are at $18,100 and you have an accident car which is half painted with new paint.

I just think there are better deals out there IMHO and lots of your deals turn out alot worse then yours. I am glad yours worked out well for you and you are happy with it.
I am under 15K still

Either way, like you said if the buyer is happy that is all that matters..

-=Jeff=-
10-28-2009, 12:02 AM
Oh and for the hood.. yeah NEW is $1600, but I would buy a used one, Paint will be more then $1500, I would paint the whole car if/when the time comes

Some of us cannot afford the 18K (out of pocket) for a 18-19 yr old car. I was able to buy mine for a good price, I sold my 89 so i did okay. I also don't need all new parts, it it is in good condition used is good. y whole interior is used parts (except the Seat Leather)

the Nice thing with my car, is it was not 100% original, so I can make it the way I want and not worry about it..

xlr8nflorida
10-28-2009, 12:14 AM
I understand not wanting to come out of pocket $18k at one time. I also agree with making it the way you want it.

At the same time, If you include a used hood at $800 and a decent paint job which is easily $3,000-$6,000 then you have a decent amt of $ tied up in the car which is why I stated that other cars are better values in the long run. (If you have the funds)

As long as you get a Z that is all that matters. In your situation it makes perfect sense why you chose the route you did. However, I often see people who have the $$$ but they try to get a steal.

I'm not saying there are not steals out there, I'm simply saying for every steal out there, there are alot of deals where the cars are Roaches. Deciphering the Roaches from the good deals is not always easy unless you are familiar with cars and specifically ZR-1s. Statistically speaking, if you are uneducated you will get burned more times then most on Ebay. I trust about 10-20% cars on ebay.

If you take the time to look at the photos, look at the alignment of the body panels and overall condition of the paint and interior, you can learn alot. Also if their "write up" is too over the top that is usually a tip off as well.

This is of course is all my opinion and looking at ZR-1's on ebay for the past 10 years.

That being said, I found a deal years ago on a 2nd ZR-1 on ebay. Guy had no reserve. I won it and he wouldn't sell it to me. It was $16,000 and change and it had about 50k miles on it. Of course this was about 3-4 years ago and the ZR-1 market was alot better then it is today.



Oh and for the hood.. yeah NEW is $1600, but I would buy a used one, Paint will be more then $1500, I would paint the whole car if/when the time comes

Some of us cannot afford the 18K (out of pocket) for a 18-19 yr old car. I was able to buy mine for a good price, I sold my 89 so i did okay. I also don't need all new parts, it it is in good condition used is good. y whole interior is used parts (except the Seat Leather)

the Nice thing with my car, is it was not 100% original, so I can make it the way I want and not worry about it..

-=Jeff=-
10-28-2009, 12:19 AM
I understand not wanting to come out of pocket $18k at one time. I also agree with making it the way you want it.

At the same time, If you include a used hood at $800 and a decent paint job which is easily $3,000-$6,000 then you have a decent amt of $ tied up in the car which is why I stated that other cars are better values in the long run. (If you have the funds)

As long as you get a Z that is all that matters. In your situation it makes perfect sense why you chose the route you did. However, I often see people who have the $$$ but they try to get a steal.

I'm not saying there are not steals out there, I'm simply saying for every steal out there, there are alot of deals where the cars are Roaches. Deciphering the Roaches from the good deals is not always easy unless you are familiar with cars and specifically ZR-1s. Statistically speaking, if you are uneducated you will get burned more times then most on Ebay. I trust about 10-20% cars on ebay.

If you take the time to look at the photos, look at the alignment of the body panels and overall condition of the paint and interior, you can learn alot. Also if their "write up" is too over the top that is usually a tip off as well.

This is of course is all my opinion and looking at ZR-1's on ebay for the past 10 years.

That being said, I found a deal years ago on a 2nd ZR-1 on ebay. Guy had no reserve. I won it and he wouldn't sell it to me. It was $16,000 and change and it had about 50k miles on it. Of course this was about 3-4 years ago and the ZR-1 market was alot better then it is today.

Yeah I agree.. I got lucky but wanted a project, I knew what I was getting..

like they say if it sounds too good to be true.......

Kb7tif
10-28-2009, 12:43 AM
Yep, these cars are showing up more and more with wear on them, and its bringing the prices down on the really pampered ones. But it should be easy to tell the difference between them so...